I like my magic very much. But it is getting older.
So, i was wondering, if i should exchange it for a Hero.
Yes, yes, i know about the nexus and the others, but they are WAY out of what i want to spend in a phone.
So, basically, i want a faster magic, better if it has more RAM, and since the hero would officially support support 2.1 i thought it should be faster.
But then I read rants from people telling that it runs 2.1 not very good. So, what gives? Is it able to run 2.1 (stock/vanilla) at correct speed?
My Magic does, so I assume the here would. I'm right?
Any other advantages? (besides the camera).
And last, are all HEROS, SOFT ROOTABLE? I do not want to do JTAGS. I have no problem with gold cards.
i dont think there is a stock 2.1 for the hero
we are still waiting for it
sigh
As far as I understand, it has been already scheduled, and released for some versions (i might be wrong).
So, i'm trying to understand, besides memory, it looks like more or less exactly the same as a G1, so, what would it make it run the 2.1 rom just fine?
Well, as far as i can see, whats really made the difference is the OCed kernels. before them, 2.1 was not that smooth on the hero, now its really usable, and completely stable (I use VillainRom 6.2) though its not officialy released yet, and i expect it will get even faster when we do eventually get an update. In fact, i would say 2.1 with OC is much faster than 1.5 ever was, the improvement is clear in games and emulators.
The hero is a nice phone, and im happy with mine, but if i was buying now I would get a desire. On contract in the UK, they cost practicly the same as im still paying for my hero.
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This is thread about porting the ORIGINAL ROM of HTC HERO that HTC announced in its event on 24th June...........
Any one who gets hold of the ROM please upload it here so that the devs can start porting ...
The ROM that original firmware has is slight different and it seemed to be much more complete and smoother....
THE ROM IS NOT YET THERE>>> THIS IS FOR DISCUSSION
If this a discussion thread then i will move it to general, thanks for the clarification
i cant wait until we get it. hopefully Haykuro shows up with it out of the blue and becomes our Hero.
How does everyone think the Sense UI Rom will run on our G1s? Do you think it will be as fast as it was in the Hero Demo or will it be slightly slower than that because the Dream has less ROM/RAM vs the Hero?
im sure that it will be faster than our current hero rom with a2sd. It might be a little slower but i dont think it should be that noticeable of a difference.
it should be able to run well...swapper will make up for the ram we dont have and a class 6 card will also help our cause.
HTC Hero G3 Released to T-mobile and G1 update
looks like T-mobile will Released Hero by November and December and
will released the flash player to all G1 (OTA UPDATE)
update code Name: flash (V2.0) update..
"HTC's Sense UI not coming to any "Google" branded phones"
We've got some good and bad news... mostly bad, though. First, the good news: HTC is looking into finding a way to bring its new Sense UI -- the one featured prominently in the new Hero -- to its non-Google branded Android devices, such as Canadian carrier Roger Wireless' Magic. Unfortunately, and this is the bad news, even that's not a sure thing, and as you can probably guess from the wording, any phone that's got the "with Google" branding, like T-Mobile USA's G1 and myTouch 3G, won't be getting a chance at all due to the same licensing terms that prevented Microsoft Exchange clients on those same phones. Them's the breaks, folks, but we're sure some hacker with enough know-how will bypass the silly restrictions and do it anyway.
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well until the Rogers phones get rooted, they better not leave out the Dream on Rogers or I'm going to be rather upset.
Of cousre I'll take root and a hacked ROM any day
Rosco911 said:
"HTC's Sense UI not coming to any "Google" branded phones"
We've got some good and bad news... mostly bad, though. First, the good news: HTC is looking into finding a way to bring its new Sense UI -- the one featured prominently in the new Hero -- to its non-Google branded Android devices, such as Canadian carrier Roger Wireless' Magic. Unfortunately, and this is the bad news, even that's not a sure thing, and as you can probably guess from the wording, any phone that's got the "with Google" branding, like T-Mobile USA's G1 and myTouch 3G, won't be getting a chance at all due to the same licensing terms that prevented Microsoft Exchange clients on those same phones. Them's the breaks, folks, but we're sure some hacker with enough know-how will bypass the silly restrictions and do it anyway.
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heh this isn't much to worry about. as soon as someone gets hold of the phone, it's only a matter of doing a "adb pull /system system" and uploading it somewhere for us to be able to grab it and run with it
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well until the Rogers phones get rooted, they better not leave out the Dream on Rogers or I'm going to be rather upset.
Of cousre I'll take root and a hacked ROM any day
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why not both? ;P
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heh this isn't much to worry about. as soon as someone gets hold of the phone, it's only a matter of doing a "adb pull /system system" and uploading it somewhere for us to be able to grab it and run with it
why not both? ;P
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does anyone think that this could be done without root, similar to the manual update for T-Mobile 1.5? Maybe you could just edit the contents of T-Mobile 1.5 to add the UI changes?
I really doubt it, if it were possible I think we would've done that with some of the ROMs that have been released. You're on a developer website, you have to take some risks because this is "in development' not finished.
as I stated in another thread, HTC is not bringing sense to "with Google" branded phones, however, there are non google dreams out there, I think roger's is one of them. Once rogers gets rosie, it's gonna be an easy port to any dream rom.
Anyway, if somebody dumps a hero rom, there shouldn't be a reason why it wouldn't run on Dream. Hero is comparable in hardware (memory size and storage capacity) to the sapphire, so it'd only be a matter of making rosie run in less memory (192 vs 288) and fit in a smaller space (256 vs 512). The processors by Qualcomm on both devices are very similar, the hero's being a revision of dream's and sapphire's processors, and they both share the same arm11 core. Both processors are capable of running at 528mhz, so, really, there's very little difference between both devices. Again, a rogers dream port would be better, but Hero port will still work fine on dream
Hi guys,
im trying to get my phone jtaged so i can finally have it rooted. are there any suggestions on the best mod to use for the g1? i know we have limited memeory and i beleive we cant even run 2.0 or 2.1 on the phone is that correct?
THanks!
does this mean we get 2.1!!!
Posted by Cyanogen in Home on May 21, 2010
A whole bunch of us have been working hard to get Android 2.1 (CM 5.0.7) running perfect on the HTC Dream and Magic phones and I think it’s nearly ready to go. This release is almost exactly the same as the Nexus One and Droid versions of CM now, minus a few of the heavier apps.
This was an incredible community effort and I hope everyone likes the result. Breathing new life into old hardware is always awesome.
I expect that a stable release of 5.0.7 should be ready for all devices in the next few days.
And after that.. Google has confirmed that Android 2.2 (FroYo) will be available for ION phones, so it’s guaranteed that CM-6 will continue to support the G1 also when the source code hits AOSP.
Cyanogen 5.0.7test7 runs pretty sweetly on my G1 and its based on 2.1
does it lag at all? are there any limitations that i should know of
I find it ok with comcache enabled, around the same speed (if not a little quicker) then the stable based on 1.6.
It is still a "test / experimental" build though, so proceed at your own risk etc...
Link to the download and details - http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/index....ic-would-you-like-a-pony-v507-test7-05222010/
Changelog for test7 - http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Release_Notes#5.0.7-DS-test7_.28experimental.29
omgkush said:
Hi guys,
im trying to get my phone jtaged so i can finally have it rooted. are there any suggestions on the best mod to use for the g1? i know we have limited memeory and i beleive we cant even run 2.0 or 2.1 on the phone is that correct?
THanks!
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Running the Rom on my signature which is CyanogenMod5, latest version themed and tweaked. It is a 2.1 and is running very fast/stable so far. Major downside is the battery life however and is a bit hard to get used to vs. a 1.6 Donut Rom.
In all honesty Id say you try SuperD v1.11 (Best Donut Rom in my opinion) first and then flash the Eclair Roms later on. Sooner or later I am sure a developer will improve the battery degradation problem on the 2.1's.
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I find it ok with comcache enabled, around the same speed (if not a little quicker) then the stable based on 1.6.
It is still a "test / experimental" build though, so proceed at your own risk etc...
Link to the download and details - http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/index....ic-would-you-like-a-pony-v507-test7-05222010/
Changelog for test7 - http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Release_Notes#5.0.7-DS-test7_.28experimental.29
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Its been released "stable"
omgkush said:
Hi guys,
im trying to get my phone jtaged so i can finally have it rooted. are there any suggestions on the best mod to use for the g1?
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And what, might I ask, is a "g1"?
This phone you speak of is an HTC phone called "DREAM".
i know we have limited memeory
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That statement is absurd. EVERYTHING has limited memory. Unlimited memory is by definition IMPOSSIBLE, even the smallest memory component possible would consume more than the total available space in the universe to produce unlimited/infinite memory. In fact, it would consume the space consumed by INFINITE UNIVERSES. Inconceivably huge, eh?
and i beleive we cant even run 2.0 or 2.1 on the phone is that correct?
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And just where did you come up with this nonsense? Do you realize that all the chicken littles in the world will always say "your old hardware will never see this!" -- fact is that this is NOT WINDOZE!! Just because windoze phones don't get to see the newer versions does NOT mean that WE won't get to see our newer versions.
**** this guy is annoying with this rooting ****...
You push too much dude. People don't want to work on your phones cause your too pushy
You start threads about the same thing.....useless
I mean a lot of ROM's have more of the same. Basic speed enhancements, bug fixes/ compatibility changes, and maybe some graphical changes.
But with 2.2 coming out on more platforms is it possible that some of the features of 2.2 might come to the Eris? Or is the phone just not strong enough?
once the source is out new things will start coming.
Like what? We already know what's in 2.2 for the most part. What features from 2.2 could be ported to Eris?
not even sure. havent even looked at froyo or its features.
You also have to keep in mind that there a limitations to the Eris. It simply may not be able to runall of the features that new versions of android will provide.
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actually we could port a froyo rom to eris and have it work. we already have kaos froyo, there are major bugs in it, which is because of the porting, not a limitation in the eris.
but once we have source code for froyo, we can build a rom off of it, and have every feature in it. we can do this for atleast the next few versions of android, as long as android doesnt require insane requirements.
Well I assume things like flash won't really be running all that great on our phones. It's only really running well on the top ones.
Also keep in mind that every new version of AndroidOS actually runs faster on each phone than the previous version and I've heard the same about 2.2.
If you look at benchmarks 2.2 is making phones run twice is fast lol but it's optimized for those phones. And isn't the reason 2.2 is running so fast partly because of JIT?, which we have.
Hungry Man said:
If you look at benchmarks 2.2 is making phones run twice is fast lol but it's optimized for those phones. And isn't the reason 2.2 is running so fast partly because of JIT?, which we have.
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Good point, but they did make Android faster going from 1.5 to 1.6 and to 2.0 and then to 2.1 without JIT, so it's reasonable to assume they made it even at least slightly faster besides the JIT.
Yeah I think they focused on making bootup faster. The entire thing is supposed to be super optimized. I definitely would like that.
There were some rumors that some of the Android devices of HTC will not receive the newest update to Android Froyo 2.2. While this is partially true, we’re happy to say that HTC Magic is not included in that “black list”.
As announced by the second largest French mobile operator SFR, the device will receive the desired Froyo soon. Some believe that this will take place even in this month. T-Mobile has also plans to update myTouch 3 G which is basically the same device to Froyo by the end of this year.
Let’s say that the device looks to handle the novelties quite well, considering the fact “of not being that new”. Good job!
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Code:
http://www.htcphones.net/htc-magic-to-get-froyo-2-2-update/
so correct me if im wrong... but if the htc magic gets official android 2.2 does that mean the amazing developers here are going to have a field day with it and make it even better and more customizable than the actual creators of it?
I sure hope so would love to have a nice custom rom with 2.2 that works and with tons of bonus stuff pre installed.
Maybe you haven't noticed, but the amazing developers here are having a field day since the froyo source was dropped in to AOSP a few days ago. CM6 should be just around the corner.
i know they are already playing with it, but with a copy from the actually phone i imagine it would be easier to mod and play with since they dont have to port and do all kinds of ridicules things to get it to work on another phone.
sike89 said:
i know they are already playing with it, but with a copy from the actually phone i imagine it would be easier to mod and play with since they dont have to port and do all kinds of ridicules things to get it to work on another phone.
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Remember that the 32B Magic is the ION/ADP2, everything you need to get a fully working ROM is supplied in the AOSP. What you're suggesting is probably more relevant to devices like the Hero. At any rate, we'll probably see CM6 or some other froyo ROM before a shipped one.
ok well you seem to know more than i do so i hope a 2.2 near perfect rom comes out soom. im so excited lol
Yeah me too, Cyan's feed is the only reason I'm checking twitter atm, really looking forward to speed increases
I know that google has said you need 1 ghz and 512 megs of ram (and a bigger screen) to run gingerbread, but do you think there is any chance a slimmed down version could make it's way to the HTC magic?
Or is the HTC magic with 2.2 froyo the most advanced we'll get until we go for another upgrade?
I mean, considering the fact that the HTC magic doesn't even have a graphics processor, it's horribly out of date and runs poorly, so an upgrade is certainly worth it.
There's no sure information what I have found on the matter, but maybe yes - but it needs a lot of work, for all the differences.
Even if the SDK derived sneak peek rom seems to work somehow, IDK if it really could be ported.
I'm satisfied with Froyo & and it's features right now.. But OFC would like to donate to those who would port. CM would be best?