I just read this on engadget
http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/sense-ui-update-for-htc-magic-makes-the-scene-in-taiwan/
Well its for Magic which is essentially dream. so lets hope one of our Devs get a dump of this rom add the english language and we'll finally have FULL Sense UI in our G1s
My_Name_Is_Neo said:
I just read this on engadget
http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/26/sense-ui-update-for-htc-magic-makes-the-scene-in-taiwan/
Well its for Magic which is essentially dream. so lets hope one of our Devs get a dump of this rom add the english language and we'll finally have FULL Sense UI in our G1s
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We already have the sense dump for the magic, and it's already been ported. Buuuuut it's for the 32A, the 288mb ram model, just like the Hero. Apparently it's the fastest yet, but it's still meant for hardware with a 1/3 more ram.
I believe the Google branded phones are the 32Bs which have the same ram as the G1 (192mb) so it would would make sense (pun intended) for them not to get the update (RAM wise + licensing).
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We already have the sense dump for the magic, and it's already been ported. Buuuuut it's for the 32A, the 288mb ram model, just like the Hero. Apparently it's the fastest yet, but it's still meant for hardware with a 1/3 more ram.
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Aahh.. so thats the "Sence UI" roms floating around. well i think days of my G1 are limited then, as most of the new roms will be for the new HTC or Motorola hardware with more ram. We have been trying Compcache & Swap but its still not up to the mark. forget Cyan's ROM even the T-Mo's 1.6 without modification runs faster than any of the Hero Roms.
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Aahh.. so thats the "Sence UI" roms floating around. well i think days of my G1 are limited then, as most of the new roms will be for the new HTC or Motorola hardware with more ram. We have been trying Compcache & Swap but its still not up to the mark. forget Cyan's ROM even the T-Mo's 1.6 without modification runs faster than any of the Hero Roms.
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Yup, the Sholes/Droid sounds awesome on paper, seems like much more of an upgrade than the Cliq. I'd buy one the second it's released if I had the cash.
Dilemma -- I have someone that wants to buy my Stock HD2 without Android for $350 (us dollars) so that I can purchase the N1.
What you guys suggest? Keep my HD2 w/ Android which is overclocked and working flawless w/ Android or sell it and get the Nexus One root it, Froyo 2.2, etc?
PS,
I know its not available online, I know a few private sellers that N1's for sell.
what does this have to do with develpment ...oh wait it doesnt ,
need to be closed ..so many other sections to post this
thatruth132 said:
what does this have to do with develpment ...oh wait it doesnt ,
need to be closed ..so many other sections to post this
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no general android forum so he can do what he want , don't like the usless threads generated every munits just ask for general android forum
thread... i dont know how to tell you this.... i think you have until 18:00GMT to live... im sorry
btw hd2, n1 is butt ugly
Frankly if you're interested in Android and Android alone, I'd go with the Nexus One. While the quality of Android builds on the HD2 has improved, its still not at the level of phones designed with it.
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no general android forum so he can do what he want , don't like the usless threads generated every munits just ask for general android forum
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thread rules state develoment only , if it was me i would be asking members in the market area...
another useless thread...but to answer your question, HD2 will eventually get NAND soon, seeing as the HTC Kaiser already has android NAND. After the HD2 gets NAND it will be better than the nexus one, wiping out windows mobile all together and running flawlessly from boot.
thanks, closed!
wait a bit for android ROM and u will get the answer
i had the n1. i did not like the build quality and wasnt really feeling the design. the material used for the display felt kind of thin. like the g1 screen. in my opinion and experience with the two, the hd2's build quality and design are far more superior than the nexus one.
i am running the shu8i android build and is one of the lucky one's to not have too many problems. with the hd2 running android and just about stable, i'd choose the hd2 over a nexus one. i dont know if you have had any other android phone, but with custom rom's you will also run into problems once in a while. when i had the nexus one and running some custom roms, i would get random reboots and freezes(depending on who's rom), same as some people running android on their hd2. so dont think just because you are getting a device that originally came with android it will run 100% stable when running custom roms.
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i am running the shu8i android build and is one of the lucky one's to not have too many problems.
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+1
I would choose my HD2 over the N1 =)
Can the Nexus One run windows? Does the Nexus One have a 4.3 inch screen? HD2 FTW!
Just to clarify, its HD2 ANDROID.
Droid is a whole other phone.
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Frankly if you're interested in Android and Android alone, I'd go with the Nexus One. While the quality of Android builds on the HD2 has improved, its still not at the level of phones designed with it.
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I bought a spanking new Desire off Amazon and after putting Shubcraft on my HD2 promply sold the Desire. To get the Desire running the way I wanted it too would have taken the same amount of work to get my HD2 going. More than happy with HD2 now. Plus the phone has proved to be a real head turner out in public as various fanboyz from other platforms as well as Android want to know what the hell it is.
I like both phones but prefer the bigger screen of the HD2.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
Although i love my HD2 and use it more than my nexus one, i cant see myself getting rid of the nexus one until I have a G2. So to answer your question, until nand becomes a reality, the best android phone is a pure android phone.
I just came from the my touch slide and know a lot of developers that traded their nexus one for HD2.I'm looking forward to seeing awesome things on this phone from them. Being patient is going to be difficult but well worth it.
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Frankly if you're interested in Android and Android alone, I'd go with the Nexus One. While the quality of Android builds on the HD2 has improved, its still not at the level of phones designed with it.
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Partially agree... but can you say for Droid X, MyTouch 3G, Evo 4G - that Android runs perfect on them? I think you are leaning towards saying "partially No"...
I have played with Droid X, Evo 4G and MyTouch - out of three two first are great, but Android OS was everything but NOT SMOOTH. Therefore, even my HD2 wins how smooth it is with 2.2 ... I have no doubt it will be smooth on these two once 2.2 is available (as it is now I think) - but still, phones "designed" for Android have not much to do with OS itself - just marketing deal between two companies, that's all...
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Partially agree... but can you say for Droid X, MyTouch 3G, Evo 4G - that Android runs perfect on them? I think you are leaning towards saying "partially No"...
I have played with Droid X, Evo 4G and MyTouch - out of three two first are great, but Android OS was everything but NOT SMOOTH. Therefore, even my HD2 wins how smooth it is with 2.2 ... I have no doubt it will be smooth on these two once 2.2 is available (as it is now I think) - but still, phones "designed" for Android have not much to do with OS itself - just marketing deal between two companies, that's all...
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you are right , there is no hardware designed for certain os exept the buttons , my hd2 with mattc builds runs smoother than my friend's htc desire in some tasks , may be the developers here made better drivers than HTC , add on that that we have real multitouch that doesnot exist in allot of htc android phones including (desire and nexus ) and now we only 4 steps far from fully android Hd2
1. light sensor
2. improve g sensor drivers
3. compass calibration
4.in call volume increase
and these are not big issues
I was also thinking trading HD2 for a Nexus, but can't get rid of 4.3" screen, so I decided to stick with the mighty HD2
Greets All,
I saw that this phone was out by ATT, and I was curious about it so I went to GSMArena to do a compare, and Aside from it being a 4G phone and a 8MP camera, its nearly the same hardware from what I saw, am I wrong in what I looked at?
I was curious cause I was wondering since everyone says that the desire HD is hardware wise a close match, based on what I saw I think the Inspire could be closer of a match.
Anyone else? Or am I just completely off base?
GPU is better.
Touchscreen has proper multi touch properlly
Android on the inspire is prolly faster smoother and more stable than ours (Note this prolly only comes into play when you flash it with a custom rom). But ours is good enough for daily use.
More RAM
More ROM which is a big plus considering it runs sense
720p recording
More video codec support
the CPU for the inspire is a 2nd gen snapdragon which is supposedly way better than 1st gen, which is what the hd2 uses.
Desire hd and inspire 4g are the same, just that the inspire 4g is a variant of the desire hd for aT&t.
Kailkti said:
GPU is better.
Touchscreen has proper multi touch properlly
Android on the inspire is prolly faster smoother and more stable than ours (Note this prolly only comes into play when you flash it with a custom rom). But ours is good enough for daily use.
More RAM
More ROM which is a big plus considering it runs sense
720p recording
More video codec support
the CPU for the inspire is a 2nd gen snapdragon which is supposedly way better than 1st gen, which is what the hd2 uses.
Desire hd and inspire 4g are the same, just that the inspire 4g is a variant of the desire hd for aT&t.
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he's not asking which is better, only which is a closer match hardware wise to our HD2's.
Angel, I was curious about this too. It seems that the Inspire is just America's version of the DesireHD, but I could be wrong. Didn't get a chance to look closely at specs.
Ah sorry, didn't read all of it and i was also answering the topic of the thread so yeah, I misread.
Well in the end I did say that the inspire 4g is just a variant of the desire hd so in a way I did answer his question.
Well I just read on the main page of XDA they are thinking of merging the Inspire and the DHD into one forum. And since alot of the Androids are being ported based on the DHD, if thats the case then the Inspire should be able to be ported too.
But by specs all three seem to be almost the same with little variation.
Yes the inspire can be ported. But what is there to port that is different from the desire hd, aT&t bloatware?
Actually no, Since I dont have the inspire, I have to rely on people here, if the Inspire runs a non HD version, dont even know what they call it for the inspire, and its not as heavy as the DHD roms, it would mean smoother rom, less battery drain, etc, like we all know the desire is lighter on the battery then the DHD. I'm just thinking if this would have the same features and is just easier on the battery load and not as heavy, Also obviously this being a newer phone, riping the kernel (which I have no idea on how to do) and seeing how that runs since from a quick look it seems to be a HTC kernel. Where this might help? Battery, Wifi, Bluetooth, New Drivers, etc.
At this point its not really about "oooo another rom to play with" I think at this point it should be, lets look at this and see if there is anything that can help stablize our builds, with what I mentioned above, cause as wel all know Android to a good degree is interchangeable with its parts of the OS, where SlowMo wasnt.
Does that make any sense?
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Actually no, Since I dont have the inspire, I have to rely on people here, if the Inspire runs a non HD version, dont even know what they call it for the inspire, and its not as heavy as the DHD roms, it would mean smoother rom, less battery drain, etc, like we all know the desire is lighter on the battery then the DHD. I'm just thinking if this would have the same features and is just easier on the battery load and not as heavy, Also obviously this being a newer phone, riping the kernel (which I have no idea on how to do) and seeing how that runs since from a quick look it seems to be a HTC kernel. Where this might help? Battery, Wifi, Bluetooth, New Drivers, etc.
At this point its not really about "oooo another rom to play with" I think at this point it should be, lets look at this and see if there is anything that can help stablize our builds, with what I mentioned above, cause as wel all know Android to a good degree is interchangeable with its parts of the OS, where SlowMo wasnt.
Does that make any sense?
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I would assume the inspire would run pretty much the same software as the desire hd, since the inspire is just the at&t version of desire hd. It'll probably have same kernel and sense version as DHD.
Where you say SlowMo, are you talking about winmo? I thought winmo was just as interchangeable with its parts, if not more, as android. Winmo was a great OS, especially on the HD2... it just wasn't supported anymore shortly after the HD2 was released.
I'd get an inspire if WinMo 6.5 was ported to it...until then I'm looking for a Tellus version of the HD2 when it makes sense to spend the money...WM6.5 rocks...I hate the sens UI and android, and I'm not a fan of WP7 yet so...
Lol...that was my first public post...and about a phone I probably wont get unless someone ports WinMo6.5....lol...I actually came across this thread looking to see if anyone had ported it, which unfortunately I doubt they ever will
It seems to me the more these newer devices advance, the less we really get out of them customization-wise....my Tilt2 does everything I need it to do, and I have way more options to customize it, including the ability to run android...I only run that to show the Android lovers that WinMo is actually better...lol
Besides those times, I run the standard Windows Mobile Today screen, not TF3D...not Sense, nor Titanium...the Old Old WM Today screen but if I didnt want to I could do Sense, TF3D, SPB, Titanium, etc....Android doesnt seem better, it just seems like it gets more attention because it's the new thing...but then again, perhaps it's easier to develop for, I don't know...I'm totally new to this stuff compared to many around here
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Lol...that was my first public post...and about a phone I probably wont get unless someone ports WinMo6.5....lol...I actually came across this thread looking to see if anyone had ported it, which unfortunately I doubt they ever will
It seems to me the more these newer devices advance, the less we really get out of them customization-wise....my Tilt2 does everything I need it to do, and I have way more options to customize it, including the ability to run android...I only run that to show the Android lovers that WinMo is actually better...lol
Besides those times, I run the standard Windows Mobile Today screen, not TF3D...not Sense, nor Titanium...the Old Old WM Today screen but if I didnt want to I could do Sense, TF3D, SPB, Titanium, etc....Android doesnt seem better, it just seems like it gets more attention because it's the new thing...but then again, perhaps it's easier to develop for, I don't know...I'm totally new to this stuff compared to many around here
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sorry, i dont want to offend you, but most parts of your post are nonsense..
You don't need to be sorry, or apologize to me, I'm not offended at all, I'm entitled to like what I like and I'm entitled to my opinion of operating systems...some people like Windows, others, Linux, and even still, Mac...they all have their benefits and none are garbage, although some might say one is or isn't..Chevy wussies argue with Ford Men all the time lol...
I take an honest approach by admitting I'm new, and don't know all of the ins-and-outs of the OS's of devices, I'm not a developer, at all...I'm an end-user, that's it... at the same time, I have my Tilt2 and I have an EVO 4G, I don't like the EVO, would trade it in a heartbeat for a Telstra HD2 and tbh, the only reason I want that is so I can put all of the OS's it can run on it so I can have my choice, and show it off...lol....it's the only device I know of that can run 5 operating systems on it....and sure, that's because the developers who have done the porting on it have done so, and is a statement to how genius they are, and yes, I consider them geniuses, of which for all I know, you are one of, but on the other hand, the HD2 is a windows mobile 6.5 device, that can run 5 operating systems and I don't see any Android devices being able to run any other operating systems.....so.....
Going back to what I said...I have my Tilt2, and use it as my primary device for everything....EVERYTHING....I own an emergency flood restoration construction company and I'm on call 24 hours a day,...the Tilt2 and the Evo 4G are pretty much chained to my hip at all times, and the only time I whip out the Evo is when it's time to stick it on the charger...there's nothing I have noticed about it that's better than my Tilt2....nothing....except maybe the screen size
I do think having the experience of owning each phone with each OS allows me credibility to say one phone does not outperform the other very much, and if one does, it's minimally...but I don't like the Evo, and I don't like the Sense UI, and I don't like the Android today screen any more than I like Sense....as an owner of each device, and a user of each device, I have formed my opinion based on my preference of devices that I own, and my Tilt2 windows mobile kicks ass over my Evo in regards to which device I enjoy using over the other...and that's not nonsense...it's a fact
Anyways, what brought me to this thread was to see the results of the discussion of HD2 Vs Inspire.....I'm up for an upgrade at AT&T, but I don't like the devices they have to offer at this particular time...the Inspire was a possible contender but it's pretty much an Evo...lol, and I've stated how I feel about it....I'm only going to consider the Inspire if someone ports 6.5 to it....what got me to comment here was someone mentioning WinMo as SlowMo.....6.5 is indeed a good OS, it's just unfortunately not continued
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Anyways, what brought me to this thread was to see the results of the discussion of HD2 Vs Inspire.....I'm up for an upgrade at AT&T, but I don't like the devices they have to offer at this particular time...the Inspire was a possible contender but it's pretty much an Evo...lol, and I've stated how I feel about it....I'm only going to consider the Inspire if someone ports 6.5 to it....what got me to comment here was someone mentioning WinMo as SlowMo.....6.5 is indeed a good OS, it's just unfortunately not continued
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HD2 is THE best winmo 6.5 phone, and properly the last one, you can go get a EU version that works on ATT network
I like sliding keyboards...I'm waiting to see what happens with the HTC PRO7...unfortunately, as much as I love my Tilt2 and the OS and UI, I know it will some day come time for me to retire it...and by then, devices like the PRO7 running WP7 and Android will be all thats available and noone is going to port 6.5 for anything...6.5 as far as I'm concerned was just missing the snapdragon processors and LED flashes and stuff that are coming out on the new devices
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I like sliding keyboards...I'm waiting to see what happens with the HTC PRO7...unfortunately, as much as I love my Tilt2 and the OS and UI, I know it will some day come time for me to retire it...and by then, devices like the PRO7 running WP7 and Android will be all thats available and noone is going to port 6.5 for anything...6.5 as far as I'm concerned was just missing the snapdragon processors and LED flashes and stuff that are coming out on the new devices
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True, i agree with you. I've own a tilt2 and this phone model is the Perfect device except its lack of cpu power/low quality camera and the Wmobile OS. If HTC would just release a similar device with the same build quality/design factor, a 4.3 or 4.0 screen, 512ram, Android, 5mpx cam with flash and most importantly retain the same dual speakers + call quality ---> this would be a killer device. The speakers sound and call quality are both the best I've heard on a HTC device.
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I'd get an inspire if WinMo 6.5 was ported to it...until then I'm looking for a Tellus version of the HD2 when it makes sense to spend the money...WM6.5 rocks...I hate the sens UI and android, and I'm not a fan of WP7 yet so...
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Though I don't hate android or Sense, but I would support you on WinMo 6.5 rocks...
I don't know why people are so against it...to me It used to work fine without any problems..
With Sense UI on WinMo and cookie mod...it still is as advanced and functional as any other OS out there and HD2 is the perfect machine to carry it... ofcourse I never used a stock ROM, been using NRGZ rom from day one...
But sad part is no new apps and games are being developed on it anymore and apps on Android, really add functionality to the phone...so it has to die it sad death . But its still better than crapberry OS anyway
Sorry for the offtopic but couldn't resist..
I hate resurrecting an old thread, but I hate even more having too many threads on the same topic.
I visited this thread a number of times prior to making the jump, it's done now though. I've went from a T9193 to the Inspire4g. Darkstone SuperRam was my daily driver as my primary concern in the device is speed. I didn't find any ROMs better.
No regrets, it is a better handset no doubt. If Android has become your daily driver while you were using your Leo, don't fear the switch. Right now mine dual-boots WP7 and SuperRam and I just never used WP7 so the switch was a no-brainer. Right out of the gate with the AT&T bloat and Sense it still feels faster than the Leo running SuperRam. The Gorilla Glass is nice, I always thought that the Leo not having it was one of HTCs biggest mistakes with that handset. The battery life seems worse, but I've gotten so used to garbage battery life (coming from BB) that it really doesn't matter. I have chargers everywhere I go.
All that said, I wouldn't spend the money if you don't have to. It's not staggeringly different. I had to spend the money because my GPS failed. It has since been fixed, but I'm not going back.
Well performance is never where the HD2 shone most brightly, it was the huge unrivaled variety it has, in both android and OSes offered. It has the same variety /functionality, you can get in any other device, even more than some, e.g. samsung galaxy s forums.
Hi,
I used to have HTC Inspire for AT&T but can't afford to pay $40 for data. Is it still worth it to use an unlocked Leo as a daily driver? I love the look of the phone, pretty similar to the Inspire, but I don't know if the specs are good enough to smoothly run Sense. Is it worth it?
cappyandroid said:
Hi,
I used to have HTC Inspire for AT&T but can't afford to pay $40 for data. Is it still worth it to use an unlocked Leo as a daily driver? I love the look of the phone, pretty similar to the Inspire, but I don't know if the specs are good enough to smoothly run Sense. Is it worth it?
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It depends on the Sense ROM you get, but the HD2, with a good Android ROM, is quite outstanding. Currently my Android'ized HD2 is running Tytung's cLK NexusHD2 ROM and it is proving to be just as good as any OEM phone. The best Sense ROM I've used is Hannes Sense 2.1. Stay away from the Sense 3.0 and 3.5 versions. They're not worth even considering. They're way too laggy, buggy and unreliable.
Well no and yes. You know what, from my experience, no. Sense is a laggy piece of crap (Please do not take offense if you like sense, i simply hate it), and it will lag from the HD2. So no, if you want the HD2 for sense, then no. If you want the HD2 for experience then go ahead. However if all you care about is just general end user experience then please look elsewhere, the experience you get is more on the side for techies who will be fascinated.
As a "daily driver", yes do it.
Go used of course no point paying full price when a decent unit pre flashed can be easily located here or on Craigslist.
I am upgrading soon after 2 years IF a decent phone without too many issues FINALLY is released. But my HD2 will always stay charged when I do.
It is worth getting. You can run practically any mobile OS on it.. just that Sense 3.0 runs horrible on it. WP7 runs good on it and Ubuntu runs decently if you overlook the bugs... If you are looking to run sense, Sense 2.1 or below will run almost flawlessly.
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It is worth getting. You can run practically any mobile OS on it.. just that Sense 3.0 runs horrible on it. WP7 runs good on it and Ubuntu runs decently if you overlook the bugs... If you are looking to run sense, Sense 2.1 or below will run almost flawlessly.
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Yes its worth it. I still use mine as a work phone, does everything I need. Dont worry about sense, Just flash a senseless rom and use a launcher of your choice.
Have a look at the samsung note first looks nice too
cappyandroid said:
Hi,
I used to have HTC Inspire for AT&T but can't afford to pay $40 for data. Is it still worth it to use an unlocked Leo as a daily driver? I love the look of the phone, pretty similar to the Inspire, but I don't know if the specs are good enough to smoothly run Sense. Is it worth it?
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it got ICS 4.0 it's the most history legendary phone every created, it went from Windows Mobile 6 to ICS 4.0
just imagine....
its still work buying my frnd !
you can buy it .... u wont loose n e thing .... i purchased htc hd 2 ... 3 times
Moved
Actually, there are some Sense 3.0/.5 ROMs that have glitches fixes available for them [ Team Bluedroid Runnymede sense is one of them]. The fixes make the ROMs quite a bit more useable than ROMs without; I used one for a while and loved it, but I'm more an MIUI person, so I switched back.
Im considering the same... Want a phone to use windows mango on but im a massive android fan at heart and a phone geek.. its between a brand new hd2 for 230 or a lumia for 400.