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Which one is better?
I'm so confused...
What is the difference?
Can i run Android 2.2 on both of them?
Cerv3r said:
Which one is better?
I'm so confused...
What is the difference?
Can i run Android 2.2 on both of them?
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They are a slightly different shape, and the TMOUS HD2 has a 1 gig internal ROM, where as the International T8585 only has 512 Mbs. It also has 576Mbs of RAM without having to HSPL and flash a new ROM to enable it.
There is also an Aussie HD2, I can't remember the number of it without Googling, that's got a different frequency range for their 3G & HSDPA, but retains the same International T8585 shape. (*edit* It's a Telstra HD2 T9193)
And yes, they all run Android.
So which one do you suggest? They both operate the same way, meaning adding android?
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So which one do you suggest? They both operate the same way, meaning adding android?
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Well if you live in Australia get the Telstra one, if you live in North America get the T-Mobile one and if you live anywhere else in the world get an International T858. They are all essentially the same phone, they will all run Android exactly the same as one another.
thank you very much
where do you think i can get a T-Mobile one really cheap?
My co worker is selling his to me for $300, the back cover is messed up though..
Cerv3r said:
thank you very much
where do you think i can get a T-Mobile one really cheap?
My co worker is selling his to me for $300, the back cover is messed up though..
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Being English I wouldn't have a clue. You can pick up new backcovers for ~$30 though I believe.
If you are buying the HD2 solely to run Andoid I would look at getting a HTC phone designed to run that OS. As far as I am aware Android on the HD2 still, eats battery life like it's going out of fashion. I don't run Android on my phone, I think it's a gimmick, so I don't keep much of an eye on the progression of it, it may well be better now. But I still doubt you could make a full day on one charge.
What do you suggest then? I love android.. I've used windows mobile and i didnt like it very much...
So the battery sucks with android on it?
I need a phone with the same specs..
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What do you suggest then? I love android.. I've used windows mobile and i didnt like it very much...
So the battery sucks with android on it?
I need a phone with the same specs..
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Your decision comes down to where you live...
In the US you can pickup the EVO on sprint or Incredible/DroidX on verizon (only phones w/ specs @ or near HD2's)
If you still want an HD2 you can run Android so-so at this point. I live in the US and have the Telstra T9193 from AUS, because it works here on at&t 3G, TMOUS not really an option for me. I am running Froyo (2.2) at the moment off and on between WinMo. Android on HD2 is a work in progress, everyday it gets better, but no 100% guarantee that it will ever be perfect, because HTC built the HD2 to run WinMo, not Android.
thats correct that they built it to run windows mobile...
the evo is the same exact phone but different os..
i have t mobile...
do you think windows is better than android? if so, explain please, i might as well switch to windows mobile
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do you think windows is better than android? if so, explain please, i might as well switch to windows mobile
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Most people here will say yes, but it's a dead OS. There are no new apps coming out for it as Windows 7 is being shipped in the coming months. So you can't expect the iPhone/Android app market for WM it's very limited.
If I was you I'd not get the HD2, I'd go for an EVO or a Nexus One or something of the sort, as it's clearly what you are after.
I'm getting pretty much the same battery life with Android (Matt 1. 5 w/latest zimage & kernel, full RAM etc.) as I do with WinMo. It's pretty much fully functional now, and it keeps getting better.
That said, I still love WinMo. It's a very different experience with Android. Some things work better, some things less so, and ultimately I prefer having the choice to being stuck with one or the other. It'd be untrue if I said I'd bought my HD2 without hoping that an Android port would be on the horizon, and the same for WP7. It's a real testament to the skill and dedication of the many devs involved that its gotten this far.
I don't know if I'd recommend the HD2 to people who just want to run Android. The Desire HD is on the way, and it's basically the Desire with the HD2's screen. The HD2 is more of a best of both worlds device, but if you've never used WinMo extensively.. I recommend it, yet I don't know if it's necessarily the same audience Android has.
Still, I'd not settle for anything less at this stage - it can only keep getting better, and if you (like me) enjoy modding each and every aspect of your smartphone, there is nothing better out there right now (Maybe the N900, HD2 has better hardware though).
As for the model, doesn't matter - just check up on the 3G bands and buy the cheapest and most useful one for you.
Posted from my HD2 via XDA app.
Would WM7 be ported to HD2?
Im selling my Motorola Cliq for 250$ and i just got someone who wants it
Cerv3r said:
thats correct that they built it to run windows mobile...
the evo is the same exact phone but different os..
i have t mobile...
do you think windows is better than android? if so, explain please, i might as well switch to windows mobile
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EVO and HD2 have similar specs, but unfortunately there's a lot more different than similar, or we would have had android running better and faster than we do now.
Personally I love WinMo 6.5.x, you can do so much w/ it with the great Chefs around here. The reason I am playing w/ android so much is because when my HD2 dies or I just decided to move on I may make the jump to android, because as much as I love WinMo (6.5.x) the new WindowPhone7 that's coming to replace the WinMo OS blows in my opinion.
M$ had decided to turn the WinMo into a locked, neutered, iphone copy-cat to cash in on peoples desire to not have to think and still use a "smartphone". I like the idea of standardizing hardware requirement so all manufactures produce quality phones so every manufacturer spits out the same good experience, but the OS is lacking.......... I wish M$ had decided to continue to develop WinMo 6.5.x parallel to WP7 (business/tech-savvy & then media-player driven WP7 for the others)
/rant over
The call is yours, but FYI WinMo 6.5 support and app development is pretty much over since everyone (app/product designers) focusing on WP7. Like I said earlier android, to me, seems to be the future of smartphones, could be wrong, but I am not impressed with the new WP7 that's coming out.
Personally I would research WP7 to see if you like it, hate it or can live with it, because that's M$ new direction. Android has so many options it's not even funny. Motorola is a big time player in the android OS market now along w/ HTC. If I had the choice I would get an EVO from sprint, but sprint is only so-so (data) coverage around where I live.
Also since you are TMO you can still find a Nexus One, I know its a slightly smaller screen, but bad ass phone and similar specs. A lot HD2 builds are based on the NO.
Sorry I can't just tell you what phone to get, since it is such a personal choice, I only hope I was able to get you some info to think on as you make your decision. Good luck.
Wow everyone here is very helpful! I wish there was a "Thank You" button
If i do sell my Cliq in less than 2 weeks, I will get the HD2 to experiment with it.
I rooted my Cliq to add Android 2.1, as you can see, I love changing roms to experience different tastes...
It seems like the HD2 has a lot of roms, I think it would be perfect for me.
I can't buy a Nexus One because I don't have $500 to buy a phone like that
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If i do sell my Cliq in less than 2 weeks, I will get the HD2 to experiment with it.
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Aye it's worth a go, if worse comes to worse and you don't like it, you can always sell it on again.
I love WM 6.5.x, I love the programs and the UI. I hope you'll get on with it and dual booting with Android as well.
TMOUS vs International HD2
http://pocketnow.com/thought/t-mobile-hd2-vs-htc-hd2-comparison
This is the difference between the TMOUS HD2 and the international one
I live in egypt and i went for the TMOUS, as it's better and alot cheaper
the only issues are : being branded and the boot up animation for T mobile
i got it worth $ 450 brand new and unlocked with code
i love this phone really, but really wish to try out android, but i don't like fooling around with the original software, i prefer the stock rom, in my opinion the best stability
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Would WM7 be ported to HD2?
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I think it's safe to say no.
If you want to run android full-time, I'd get a native android phone. If your using t-mobile, I would go with the samsung galaxy s... (i think it's called something else at t-mobile)... It has as fast of processor as HD2, but it also has a dedicated gpu, so it will be much quicker with apps and games... and it run android natively. It will probably cost about the same as getting the HD2 from t-mobile... probably 150-200 with contract... maybe cheaper.
Hi Guys I am after some answers:-
I was interested in the HTC Desire HD and did not realise that the HD2 could dual boot so run WM6.5 and Android and from what I have read Android runs off the SD card so I have a few questions:-
1) How does Android run pretty much flawless....slow...buggy and only 720p recording doesn't work everything else does?
2) Anyone have a Desire, Desire HD and HD2 for comparison ?
3) What ROM is most like the desire HD I like the interface on that.
4) Can you sync outlook calender with HD2 Android ?
I am no stranger to flashing I have always had windows phones and flashed custom cooked roms and spl's so from what I have read up I will be ok to set this up myself.
thanks in advance.
It's not very stable yet but you can live with it if you don't mind a few battery pulls a day.
Thanks for the response so you would say that if I want a stable/smooth Android then go for the Desire HD or Galaxy S ?
I am on contract with T-Mobile at the moment and the Desire HD is out of stock and they can't tell me when it will come back into stock they have stock of the Galaxy which I here is due a Froyo 2.2 upgrade soon so the HD2 would have been the best of both worlds for me having WM and Android.
If you want pretty stable android, get native Android phones. If you want to have fun and have the choose to dual boot into Android,wm7, and megoo, get the Hd2. As far I'm aware, Android runs pretty damn nice on this babe. No major issues what so ever..
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
If you mainly want android and want it stable, go with the android phone. I'd wait for the desire HD if I were you. A 4.3 inch screen is great to have. But if you think you actually want winmo and will actually use it, then you might want to look at the hd2. Android runs decently on the hd2 ... its good for a port, but it will probably never be as stable as a native android phone. It takes a lot of work, research, and trial & error to tweak the hd2 to get android running well, but most people can get it running pretty well with some work.
If I were you, I would wait for the desire HD... it has the most ram, a big screen like the hd2, but with newer hardware and better multitouch than the hd2.
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rogmar said:
It's not very stable yet but you can live with it if you don't mind a few battery pulls a day.
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Not very stable? A few battery pulls a day? Complete bull**** if you have a somewhat recent build & kernel. There are some minor issues left, but Android on HD2 is certainly usable on a daily basis. If however you have the cash (and are willing to pay) then of course the HD will provide a (slightly) better Android experience, since it's native.
Thanks Atoore, well I really want it for the app store, games etc so I take it that works fine ? and to have best of both worlds really windows and android.
Can you get Wm7 on the HD2 already ? thats anther bonus !
I just got text saying my Desire HD will be with me in a few days but my plan was to sell it BNIB on ebay then pick up a HD for probably half the price for a very similar phone !
Anyone got any views on this ? who has gone Desire to Hd2 or HD2 to Desire ?
Thanks again guys.
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Not very stable? A few battery pulls a day? Complete bull**** if you have a somewhat recent build & kernel. There are some minor issues left, but Android on HD2 is certainly usable on a daily basis. If however you have the cash (and are willing to pay) then of course the HD will provide a (slightly) better Android experience, since it's native.
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Thanks Stephen what build are you running or would recomend ?
I saw a guide someone wrote back in july for best wm6.5.3 and android but no doubt there has been great progress since then ?
I am running Mdeejay_FroYo_Sense_v._2.3_Clean for a while now (5 days) and have no issues whatsoever. (battery life remains bad though)
I have been using Android on the HD2 for about 3 weeks now. I had some issue in the first couple of days until I found a good ROM that just works. but after that, I can't really say I have anything to complain about!
The device used to hang a little in the first few days, but the cause was mainly some of the apps I used.
I did not really use WM since I got Android running on my HD2. it's certainly much nicer experience!
I have been using this ROM for quiet some time now with minimal issues
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=780525
If you have custom ROM on your HD2, then all you need is make sure that this ROM supports Android (most of them do), then download the files to your device and run Android... that's it.
As for outlook calendar, AFAIK, you can sync it with Google calendar, then this will be synced to your device (you need Google account to set up your HD2)
I would say, go for it and give it a try, it's very different from WM
My honest opinion is its more the fun in it, initially I had battery pulls and screens of death but know that I have my radio right and rom right, and honestly the only reason I've shut it down was due to dead battery or replacing the kernel, from what I've heard the battery life in the desire be isn't great, neither is android on the hd2, but its drastically cheaper and its a learning experience.... do it
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I am in the same boat as OP.
From what I have read, ROMs like Froyostone are totally solid.
People are claiming that it runs totally fine, with almost no issues at all.
I'm thinking of buying an HD2 just to run Android as my daily phone.
Would you not recommend this? I know the older roms were buggy, but from what i read it runs as good as a Desire (original).
Are people bullsh*tting? or is it really that good now?
I recently bought a HD2 just to run android.
Ive been using android on it for a few days and I gotta say its pretty good. Its not perfect, you do get some freeze ups, though they only last for a few seconds. Ive had some data drops, since then Ive installed the fix and it seems to be working fine now.
I know Id rather have the HD2 than the desire, the big screen is awesome.
rogmar said:
It's not very stable yet but you can live with it if you don't mind a few battery pulls a day.
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As already mentioned: That's just completly bull****.
I'm running and upgrading my AndroidHD2 every few weeks since this summer and the first FroyoStone releases and pretty much all builds have become totally perfect, especially the desire builds.
I was running MDJ FroYo Sense Revolution v.1.6 until 1.7 was released this week and got freaking 3 days and 21 hours of battery life, that's almost a 400%+ compared to the days I was running WinMo 6.5.
If you're having fun to do stuff with your phone, tweaking it, installing new things and so on go for HD2, since its at 400$ atm I think.
If you just want a working phone and don't want to care about such stuff get the Desire HD oder whatever you like.
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Thanks Stephen what build are you running or would recomend ?
I saw a guide someone wrote back in july for best wm6.5.3 and android but no doubt there has been great progress since then ?
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There is no best combo, people get all kinds of different results even with the same setup. It's probably due to different SD cards, not too sure on that though. It's going to take you a few days to figure out what's good for you, but once you have your WinMo build and Radio good, probably every Android build will run just fine, leaving stuff up to your own taste. Coming from an HTC Magic, I really liked Cyanogenmod so I'm running all kinds of CM-based roms (currently JDMS 1.5, it's the most recent one). If you like Sense, MDJ's builds are probably your best shot.
But again, there's no guide on what is best. If you feel like experimenting a bit, you're gonna have a good time, but if you want a 'no hassle' phone go for the Desire (HD). I bought my HD2 especially for Android btw, found it for about €250 on ebay (unlocked), while a desire would be at least 400 for inferior hardware.
So its totally sweet then.
Wicked.
It's a great deal, especially as the desire has battery life issues, I don't see the advantage ?
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There's a reason HD2 prices on ebay have started increasing recently (at least in the UK) and it's because news is spreading about what can be done on it and what is in the pipeline. I only use Android on my HD2 and have done for two months now, Only reason I know what WinMo Rom I've got on my phone is cos it's listed in my sig lol.
Recent builds have gotten so stable I can't remember the last time I had an app crash on me, the market is flawless, I get very few data drops (and they don't last long either), camera is as good as under WinMo (5MP in other words) and very few other niggles. The main thing some peoples complain about is battery life, but that's only because they don't calibrate the battery properly (have your battery at 100% when you install a build and it will be fine tho).
I wanted a new Android phone but couldn't really afford a Vibrant, etc.
I decided to get the HD2, and I do not regret it. I use one of Darkstone's rom, and I've never had major issues with it.
I had some battery life issues, so I changed toHastarin's 8.2 kernel with Overclocking and Undervolting, and that solved my battery problem. I could get 2 days of light use if I wanted to, but I always use it a lot. With normal use I usually have 30-40% battery at the end of the day. With heavy use, I sometimes have to plug it in after about 12 hours of use, but that's rare.
rogmar said:
It's not very stable yet but you can live with it if you don't mind a few battery pulls a day.
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i have to agree with the other posters, that is bull. i use mccm build and i never had the need to pull the battery. if hd2 is far cheaper than desire hd and you prefer to save some money, i'd strongly consider hd2.
Im complety newbie in the android stuff....
first i buy HD2 only from WinMo...
but after i found so many fantastic build in XDA, im using android as daily for about a month now...
sure, it takes little bit working n searching.....
but for me, thats the beauty of it....
For now, i already found a couple build that i thought perfect enough, no lag or whatsoever....
but i still keep trying the other builds, just to see the difference...
sorry for my bad english........
Sorry to create a new thread, this is my last one in HD2 Section.
I am happy with my hd2 from the last 11months and in last 6 months I am habituated to test builds and even tried to make builds on my own but ofcourse failed. Usually, I won't stick with a mobile for more than 3 months.
But this Mobile has different OS and it was a powerful one. Now I am fed up with testing Android builds and their stability, battery etc. So I want to use a native Android phone and so I am going to purchase DesireHD with a stock Android rom and I need to concentrate on my studies other than concentrating on XDA and my mobile.
Thanks for all the Developers in HD2 section, especially Cotulla for Android and WP7 on our HD2, Mdeejay but we're missing him a lot , hope he will be back soon and finally Imilka who is currently replacing the work of Mdeejay.
Bye!
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I agree with you. the HD2 has been awesome with the support of the XDA community!
Yea I love the hell out of my hd2 but can't wait to get a native android phone aka htc pyramud.
yeah, HD2 is not for the faint of heart...
HTC Pyramid, here I come..
any pyramid news?
TooHot2Handle said:
HTC Pyramid, here I come..
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i love the hd2 but I am really want a native android device as well. Do you have any other sites or info on the pyramid? i am not happy with the t-mo offering so I will be switching to the mythical device should it actually appear.
yah but finding a 4.3in. screen with 4 different OS is gonna be hard. even the best native android phone with stock sense isgonna b slow compared to hd2
"When i die i wanna be buried face down......so everyone that doesnt like me can KISS MY ASS" - Red Forman
chrisgto4 said:
yah but finding a 4.3in. screen with 4 different OS is gonna be hard. even the best native android phone with stock sense isgonna b slow compared to hd2
"When i die i wanna be buried face down......so everyone that doesnt like me can KISS MY ASS" - Red Forman
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Completely agree... also DesireHD is not even close to HD2... especially if you talk about battery life...
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yah but finding a 4.3in. screen with 4 different OS is gonna be hard. even the best native android phone with stock sense isgonna b slow compared to hd2
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And do you know why they are slower compared to the HD2? Cuz the stock rom hasn't been tweaked to their fullest... While for the HD2, we have our custom roms roms tweaked to the fullest for maximum user satisfaction.
Now when a true android device is flashed with a custom rom, it is also, or atleast should be, tweaked to the fullest. And when that device is on its custom rom, it flies well beyond where our HD2's stopped and fell.
Now i'm not saying our HD2's aren't great for android, heck it is. But people, don't get ahead of yourself and start thinking it's as good or even better than a true 1ghz android device, heck the desire z, at it's 800mhz is better.
My mytouch 4g has more ram, therefore less lag. But I still bought an hd2. Simply for a 4.3" android device on tmous
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And do you know why they are slower compared to the HD2? Cuz the stock rom hasn't been tweaked to their fullest... While for the HD2, we have our custom roms roms tweaked to the fullest for maximum user satisfaction.
Now when a true android device is flashed with a custom rom, it is also, or atleast should be, tweaked to the fullest. And when that device is on its custom rom, it flies well beyond where our HD2's stopped and fell.
Now i'm not saying our HD2's aren't great for android, heck it is. But people, don't get ahead of yourself and start thinking it's as good or even better than a true 1ghz android device, heck the desire z, at it's 800mhz is better.
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+1... completely agree there. A lot of people here didn't seem to understand that when they were always posting how the HD2 is faster than native devices... they were comparing a rooted, tweaked device to an unrooted, stock device, and thought it was a fair comparison. And many acted like other phones didn't have their own forums with custom roms and tweaks, and ports of other android phones.
If I just used Android, I would definitely love to get a native phone... but since I've been dualbooting WP7 and Android, I am going to have a very hard time deciding what new phone to get. Right now, Android is definitely capable of more, but seeing what's in store for WP7, and seeing how quickly the homebrew community is taking apart WP7 and learning to tweak and hack it, I know WP7 will catch up quick. I wouldn't be able to decide between to 2... I actually kinda prefer using WP7 as my day to day OS, but there are still too many limitations to completely stick with wp7. I can't play my psx or snes games on wp7, there's no good navigation, and many other things that are missing still. I also love being able to customize my android homescreens. So at this point I like them both about equally, and use them both about the same amount... so I'm gonna be sticking with my HD2 for a while longer... probably at least until the end of the year and I can see where each OS is at and see what hardware is available then. I'm really hoping that they start porting android to WP7 devices, so hopefully I can get a next generation device at some point that can run both OS's again... but it will probablt be a long time, if ever, that we see a device that gets modded and hacked like the HD2 did. The HD2 was a very unique device... there was never a phone that got modded as much and probably never will be again, unfortunately.
Kind of feel the same way I love testing out different Roms for the HD2 and love the screen size but I want to play around with a Native Android phone (Samsung Galaxy S 4G) to see whats its all about plus it would be nice to finally be able to charge a phone while its turned off. Im stilling going to keep my HD2 though I still feel like its one of the top phones out.
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Kind of feel the same way I love testing out different Roms for the HD2 and love the screen size but I want to play around with a Native Android phone (Samsung Galaxy S 4G) to see whats its all about plus it would be nice to finally be able to charge a phone while its turned off. Im stilling going to keep my HD2 though I still feel like its one of the top phones out.
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dont be in any hurry. you really are not missing much. those samsung android phones do have an amazing screen though. just saying that if you are going to upgrade, make sure whatever you are getting is a worthy upgrade. flashing these custom roms and trying to find the "perfect" and "flawless" android build for our hd2's can be annoying at times but its doable..
but i guarantee, like most of us you want the most out of your device and you will end up rooting and flash custom roms on your new android smartphone just like you do now. and like many, you will also run into problems and those custom roms will always not be the most stable... just like some of these android roms for the hd2...
if you are on tmobile i would try to wait it out. see what the pyramid is all about and what other android smartphone will come out for tmo. the build quality alone makes the hd2 on a different level than most smartphones out there.
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Sorry to create a new thread, this is my last one in HD2 Section.
I am happy with my hd2 from the last 11months and in last 6 months I am habituated to test builds and even tried to make builds on my own but ofcourse failed. Usually, I won't stick with a mobile for more than 3 months.
But this Mobile has different OS and it was a powerful one. Now I am fed up with testing Android builds and their stability, battery etc. So I want to use a native Android phone and so I am going to purchase DesireHD with a stock Android rom and I need to concentrate on my studies other than concentrating on XDA and my mobile.
Thanks for all the Developers in HD2 section, especially Cotulla for Android and WP7 on our HD2, Mdeejay but we're missing him a lot , hope he will be back soon and finally Imilka who is currently replacing the work of Mdeejay.
Bye!
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
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u could give hyperdroid by pongster a shot.. its really very stable and smooth as well as fast.. definitely a daily use build..
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u could give hyperdroid by pongster a shot.. its really very stable and smooth as well as fast.. definitely a daily use build..
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I am using Imilka's glacier sense 1.3 from the last 25 days exactly from Feb3. I don't find any other build stable and better than this with sense even colourful. Thank you! I will try
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This is truely an amazing phone, intending to keep it till the end of the year, then going for the pyramid probably, or another smartphone with Android.
But ye, again, great phone.
Got my new DesireHD, rooted and now its with Gingerbread sense 2.1
Pretty happy in upgrading from HD2
I can see a lot difference in performance on DesireHD
Very Thankful to all the Android developers.
Sent from my Desire HD
Htc hd2 is the best at least till now
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Kind of feel the same way I love testing out different Roms for the HD2 and love the screen size but I want to play around with a Native Android phone (Samsung Galaxy S 4G) to see whats its all about plus it would be nice to finally be able to charge a phone while its turned off. Im stilling going to keep my HD2 though I still feel like its one of the top phones out.
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Yeah man i wanna do that also someday, not now No Budget!
However, we can charge our phone when they are OFF with Magldr 1.11!
Last week my battery died so i freaked out hearing/reading that it wont charge etc... I plugged it for about 4 or 5 hrs and then i switched it on and SURPRISE!! It booted and had 60% battery!
Only minor issue is that you will have to unplug-replug the battery!
i think it is about 6-7 monthes before the hd2 forum is empty like all old phones , but it was the best phone i've ever had , and won't upgrade untill a similar htc phone is released , The only thing i'll be sad about is you xda developrs and hd2 community , we will be distributed among different phons and forums
Greets All,
I saw that this phone was out by ATT, and I was curious about it so I went to GSMArena to do a compare, and Aside from it being a 4G phone and a 8MP camera, its nearly the same hardware from what I saw, am I wrong in what I looked at?
I was curious cause I was wondering since everyone says that the desire HD is hardware wise a close match, based on what I saw I think the Inspire could be closer of a match.
Anyone else? Or am I just completely off base?
GPU is better.
Touchscreen has proper multi touch properlly
Android on the inspire is prolly faster smoother and more stable than ours (Note this prolly only comes into play when you flash it with a custom rom). But ours is good enough for daily use.
More RAM
More ROM which is a big plus considering it runs sense
720p recording
More video codec support
the CPU for the inspire is a 2nd gen snapdragon which is supposedly way better than 1st gen, which is what the hd2 uses.
Desire hd and inspire 4g are the same, just that the inspire 4g is a variant of the desire hd for aT&t.
Kailkti said:
GPU is better.
Touchscreen has proper multi touch properlly
Android on the inspire is prolly faster smoother and more stable than ours (Note this prolly only comes into play when you flash it with a custom rom). But ours is good enough for daily use.
More RAM
More ROM which is a big plus considering it runs sense
720p recording
More video codec support
the CPU for the inspire is a 2nd gen snapdragon which is supposedly way better than 1st gen, which is what the hd2 uses.
Desire hd and inspire 4g are the same, just that the inspire 4g is a variant of the desire hd for aT&t.
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he's not asking which is better, only which is a closer match hardware wise to our HD2's.
Angel, I was curious about this too. It seems that the Inspire is just America's version of the DesireHD, but I could be wrong. Didn't get a chance to look closely at specs.
Ah sorry, didn't read all of it and i was also answering the topic of the thread so yeah, I misread.
Well in the end I did say that the inspire 4g is just a variant of the desire hd so in a way I did answer his question.
Well I just read on the main page of XDA they are thinking of merging the Inspire and the DHD into one forum. And since alot of the Androids are being ported based on the DHD, if thats the case then the Inspire should be able to be ported too.
But by specs all three seem to be almost the same with little variation.
Yes the inspire can be ported. But what is there to port that is different from the desire hd, aT&t bloatware?
Actually no, Since I dont have the inspire, I have to rely on people here, if the Inspire runs a non HD version, dont even know what they call it for the inspire, and its not as heavy as the DHD roms, it would mean smoother rom, less battery drain, etc, like we all know the desire is lighter on the battery then the DHD. I'm just thinking if this would have the same features and is just easier on the battery load and not as heavy, Also obviously this being a newer phone, riping the kernel (which I have no idea on how to do) and seeing how that runs since from a quick look it seems to be a HTC kernel. Where this might help? Battery, Wifi, Bluetooth, New Drivers, etc.
At this point its not really about "oooo another rom to play with" I think at this point it should be, lets look at this and see if there is anything that can help stablize our builds, with what I mentioned above, cause as wel all know Android to a good degree is interchangeable with its parts of the OS, where SlowMo wasnt.
Does that make any sense?
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Actually no, Since I dont have the inspire, I have to rely on people here, if the Inspire runs a non HD version, dont even know what they call it for the inspire, and its not as heavy as the DHD roms, it would mean smoother rom, less battery drain, etc, like we all know the desire is lighter on the battery then the DHD. I'm just thinking if this would have the same features and is just easier on the battery load and not as heavy, Also obviously this being a newer phone, riping the kernel (which I have no idea on how to do) and seeing how that runs since from a quick look it seems to be a HTC kernel. Where this might help? Battery, Wifi, Bluetooth, New Drivers, etc.
At this point its not really about "oooo another rom to play with" I think at this point it should be, lets look at this and see if there is anything that can help stablize our builds, with what I mentioned above, cause as wel all know Android to a good degree is interchangeable with its parts of the OS, where SlowMo wasnt.
Does that make any sense?
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I would assume the inspire would run pretty much the same software as the desire hd, since the inspire is just the at&t version of desire hd. It'll probably have same kernel and sense version as DHD.
Where you say SlowMo, are you talking about winmo? I thought winmo was just as interchangeable with its parts, if not more, as android. Winmo was a great OS, especially on the HD2... it just wasn't supported anymore shortly after the HD2 was released.
I'd get an inspire if WinMo 6.5 was ported to it...until then I'm looking for a Tellus version of the HD2 when it makes sense to spend the money...WM6.5 rocks...I hate the sens UI and android, and I'm not a fan of WP7 yet so...
Lol...that was my first public post...and about a phone I probably wont get unless someone ports WinMo6.5....lol...I actually came across this thread looking to see if anyone had ported it, which unfortunately I doubt they ever will
It seems to me the more these newer devices advance, the less we really get out of them customization-wise....my Tilt2 does everything I need it to do, and I have way more options to customize it, including the ability to run android...I only run that to show the Android lovers that WinMo is actually better...lol
Besides those times, I run the standard Windows Mobile Today screen, not TF3D...not Sense, nor Titanium...the Old Old WM Today screen but if I didnt want to I could do Sense, TF3D, SPB, Titanium, etc....Android doesnt seem better, it just seems like it gets more attention because it's the new thing...but then again, perhaps it's easier to develop for, I don't know...I'm totally new to this stuff compared to many around here
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Lol...that was my first public post...and about a phone I probably wont get unless someone ports WinMo6.5....lol...I actually came across this thread looking to see if anyone had ported it, which unfortunately I doubt they ever will
It seems to me the more these newer devices advance, the less we really get out of them customization-wise....my Tilt2 does everything I need it to do, and I have way more options to customize it, including the ability to run android...I only run that to show the Android lovers that WinMo is actually better...lol
Besides those times, I run the standard Windows Mobile Today screen, not TF3D...not Sense, nor Titanium...the Old Old WM Today screen but if I didnt want to I could do Sense, TF3D, SPB, Titanium, etc....Android doesnt seem better, it just seems like it gets more attention because it's the new thing...but then again, perhaps it's easier to develop for, I don't know...I'm totally new to this stuff compared to many around here
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sorry, i dont want to offend you, but most parts of your post are nonsense..
You don't need to be sorry, or apologize to me, I'm not offended at all, I'm entitled to like what I like and I'm entitled to my opinion of operating systems...some people like Windows, others, Linux, and even still, Mac...they all have their benefits and none are garbage, although some might say one is or isn't..Chevy wussies argue with Ford Men all the time lol...
I take an honest approach by admitting I'm new, and don't know all of the ins-and-outs of the OS's of devices, I'm not a developer, at all...I'm an end-user, that's it... at the same time, I have my Tilt2 and I have an EVO 4G, I don't like the EVO, would trade it in a heartbeat for a Telstra HD2 and tbh, the only reason I want that is so I can put all of the OS's it can run on it so I can have my choice, and show it off...lol....it's the only device I know of that can run 5 operating systems on it....and sure, that's because the developers who have done the porting on it have done so, and is a statement to how genius they are, and yes, I consider them geniuses, of which for all I know, you are one of, but on the other hand, the HD2 is a windows mobile 6.5 device, that can run 5 operating systems and I don't see any Android devices being able to run any other operating systems.....so.....
Going back to what I said...I have my Tilt2, and use it as my primary device for everything....EVERYTHING....I own an emergency flood restoration construction company and I'm on call 24 hours a day,...the Tilt2 and the Evo 4G are pretty much chained to my hip at all times, and the only time I whip out the Evo is when it's time to stick it on the charger...there's nothing I have noticed about it that's better than my Tilt2....nothing....except maybe the screen size
I do think having the experience of owning each phone with each OS allows me credibility to say one phone does not outperform the other very much, and if one does, it's minimally...but I don't like the Evo, and I don't like the Sense UI, and I don't like the Android today screen any more than I like Sense....as an owner of each device, and a user of each device, I have formed my opinion based on my preference of devices that I own, and my Tilt2 windows mobile kicks ass over my Evo in regards to which device I enjoy using over the other...and that's not nonsense...it's a fact
Anyways, what brought me to this thread was to see the results of the discussion of HD2 Vs Inspire.....I'm up for an upgrade at AT&T, but I don't like the devices they have to offer at this particular time...the Inspire was a possible contender but it's pretty much an Evo...lol, and I've stated how I feel about it....I'm only going to consider the Inspire if someone ports 6.5 to it....what got me to comment here was someone mentioning WinMo as SlowMo.....6.5 is indeed a good OS, it's just unfortunately not continued
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Anyways, what brought me to this thread was to see the results of the discussion of HD2 Vs Inspire.....I'm up for an upgrade at AT&T, but I don't like the devices they have to offer at this particular time...the Inspire was a possible contender but it's pretty much an Evo...lol, and I've stated how I feel about it....I'm only going to consider the Inspire if someone ports 6.5 to it....what got me to comment here was someone mentioning WinMo as SlowMo.....6.5 is indeed a good OS, it's just unfortunately not continued
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HD2 is THE best winmo 6.5 phone, and properly the last one, you can go get a EU version that works on ATT network
I like sliding keyboards...I'm waiting to see what happens with the HTC PRO7...unfortunately, as much as I love my Tilt2 and the OS and UI, I know it will some day come time for me to retire it...and by then, devices like the PRO7 running WP7 and Android will be all thats available and noone is going to port 6.5 for anything...6.5 as far as I'm concerned was just missing the snapdragon processors and LED flashes and stuff that are coming out on the new devices
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I like sliding keyboards...I'm waiting to see what happens with the HTC PRO7...unfortunately, as much as I love my Tilt2 and the OS and UI, I know it will some day come time for me to retire it...and by then, devices like the PRO7 running WP7 and Android will be all thats available and noone is going to port 6.5 for anything...6.5 as far as I'm concerned was just missing the snapdragon processors and LED flashes and stuff that are coming out on the new devices
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True, i agree with you. I've own a tilt2 and this phone model is the Perfect device except its lack of cpu power/low quality camera and the Wmobile OS. If HTC would just release a similar device with the same build quality/design factor, a 4.3 or 4.0 screen, 512ram, Android, 5mpx cam with flash and most importantly retain the same dual speakers + call quality ---> this would be a killer device. The speakers sound and call quality are both the best I've heard on a HTC device.
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I'd get an inspire if WinMo 6.5 was ported to it...until then I'm looking for a Tellus version of the HD2 when it makes sense to spend the money...WM6.5 rocks...I hate the sens UI and android, and I'm not a fan of WP7 yet so...
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Though I don't hate android or Sense, but I would support you on WinMo 6.5 rocks...
I don't know why people are so against it...to me It used to work fine without any problems..
With Sense UI on WinMo and cookie mod...it still is as advanced and functional as any other OS out there and HD2 is the perfect machine to carry it... ofcourse I never used a stock ROM, been using NRGZ rom from day one...
But sad part is no new apps and games are being developed on it anymore and apps on Android, really add functionality to the phone...so it has to die it sad death . But its still better than crapberry OS anyway
Sorry for the offtopic but couldn't resist..
I hate resurrecting an old thread, but I hate even more having too many threads on the same topic.
I visited this thread a number of times prior to making the jump, it's done now though. I've went from a T9193 to the Inspire4g. Darkstone SuperRam was my daily driver as my primary concern in the device is speed. I didn't find any ROMs better.
No regrets, it is a better handset no doubt. If Android has become your daily driver while you were using your Leo, don't fear the switch. Right now mine dual-boots WP7 and SuperRam and I just never used WP7 so the switch was a no-brainer. Right out of the gate with the AT&T bloat and Sense it still feels faster than the Leo running SuperRam. The Gorilla Glass is nice, I always thought that the Leo not having it was one of HTCs biggest mistakes with that handset. The battery life seems worse, but I've gotten so used to garbage battery life (coming from BB) that it really doesn't matter. I have chargers everywhere I go.
All that said, I wouldn't spend the money if you don't have to. It's not staggeringly different. I had to spend the money because my GPS failed. It has since been fixed, but I'm not going back.
Well performance is never where the HD2 shone most brightly, it was the huge unrivaled variety it has, in both android and OSes offered. It has the same variety /functionality, you can get in any other device, even more than some, e.g. samsung galaxy s forums.
Hello, my wife has a sidekick 4g that she absolutely hates and has gotten an offer to trade for an hd2. My question is, the person says it is running 2.3.5. How stable is android on the hd2? If I tell her to trade and it sucks, I will be in the doghouse! Also, if I can convince her to give windows phone 7 a shot, how does that run? I can do the searching later to find out how to boot between the two, but is it pretty risky/hard? I've rooted and rom'd every android phone I've owned but something about winmo. Makes me nervous. Thanks!
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Hello, my wife has a sidekick 4g that she absolutely hates and has gotten an offer to trade for an hd2. My question is, the person says it is running 2.3.5. How stable is android on the hd2? If I tell her to trade and it sucks, I will be in the doghouse! Also, if I can convince her to give windows phone 7 a shot, how does that run? I can do the searching later to find out how to boot between the two, but is it pretty risky/hard? I've rooted and rom'd every android phone I've owned but something about winmo. Makes me nervous. Thanks!
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both OS are stable enough for daily use ! just get the HD2...you wont regret it !
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both OS are stable enough for daily use ! just get the HD2...you wont regret it !
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I agree. Just make sure the touch screen works they are infamouse for them breaking. The phone is easy to root and nearly every rom on xda runs perfect on this phone
I've had my HD2 for 2 years now, and I knew nothing about rooting etc. It took me a whole day to learn, but now I can easily switch ROMs within half an hour max.
I've tried multiple Android ROMs (SD and NAND) and a WM7 ROM before the mango update, and everything works incredibly smooth and fully-functional. It's actually even better than the original Windows Mobile OS, so I'd highly recommend giving it a fiddle! Trust me, you can't really go wrong if you follow all the right advice (stickies have all the good stuff!)
Once you get going I think you'll really love the variety of builds and find one that you're comfortable with. Enjoy!
Awesome! Thanks guys, sounds like its a go then! I may even be wanting one for myself!
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Well it all depends on which rom/settings/tweaks you use but in general Android is more stable and runs better on the HD2 then most native Android devices!
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I agree. Just make sure the touch screen works they are infamouse for them breaking. The phone is easy to root and nearly every rom on xda runs perfect on this phone
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You dont "root" the HD2.
I'm using CM7_Tweaked-2.0.0-LEO and radio 2.15.50.14. I would not describe it as very stable and I cannot get the radio to do 3g or H. Perhaps my expectationa are too high and I'm sure it is more stable on Android than Windows, but I am not happy with it.
I have the same problem. would like to update my Leo by Android but I do not know what is the best ROM to do that in terms of stability, display errors and energy management? I was using 2.3.5 NAND version which had quit a lot of bugs. Now I'm back on WM
Android on the hd2 in my opinion runs better on this device than some devices that are launched with it.
Load up NexusHD 2.3.7 and you or your wife won't look back.
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I have the same problem. would like to update my Leo by Android but I do not know what is the best ROM to do that in terms of stability, display errors and energy management? I was using 2.3.5 NAND version which had quit a lot of bugs. Now I'm back on WM
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Well you are not going to find out unless you try them. Also "2.3.5. NAND" means absolutely nothing as that isnt rom specific, that is just a version number of Android OS.
In my experience the most stable version without needing tweaks/extra setup etc is the NexusHD2 roms by tytung (Froyo) and (Gingerbread) and they are as close to stock Android as you will get.
I am addicted to trying new roms though and have started to really like the MIUI based roms but am currently testing the new NexusHD2 ICS base.
HD2 forever ...
I have an EU and a from about 2 month a TMOUS:
- EU with MIUI 2.37a stable ... hard daily use, it rocks!!!
- TMOUS to try other roms with sense (big internal space required, i hate app2sd ) and tried 3 different version of ICS for now without any problem!!!
I have thought about changing them for a real android but ... i love modding ... so no chance for other model for now
A quick reply? Buy a TMOUS
Cheers
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Since you have tried many different roms, have you found a sense 3.5 that can play 720p video? Mwakious 3.5 does not
HD2 was build for Android, delivering it with WM6.5 was a joke!