I just played with a Galaxy with 2.2 Froyo. And I can honestly say I see absolutely no performance upgrade. Yes flash is there and a few added features we all no about in froyo. But nothing noticeable! There was still lag on the lock screen and animations. Market was better, browser seemed the same when I tested speed against my fascinate. Except flash.
Was I getting excited for nothing? Any
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froyo update = when major development starts
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not only is that right about development, but any froyo that you have played with that is out right now isnt final. supposedly samsung pulled it to make major optimizations and put their phones up to par with all the other froyo phones. we will not actually know how it runs on the fascinate to we get a build that is specific to the fascinate. Im still holding out a little hope, however ive never seen any lockscreen lag to begin with so dont know what thats all about.and once i put adw or LP as my launcher i really dont see any lag. it sticks for a second every once in a while but i never see the jitteryness that i had on my droid x, that she now has with froyo that is not one bit faster than my fascinate. i dont know about everyone else but im ready for that nice big LTE LG phone that we all saw on engadget and every other news site. that would be nice
If you don't know what Froyo adds, you don't know what you're playing with.
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If you don't know what Froyo adds, you don't know what you're playing with.
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That is not what the op said.
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I know I've heard this stated wrong a couple places. A major release is 1.x to 2.x and a minor release is x.1 to x.2 so the froyo update is a minor release. Most of the features are under the hood improvements. I've seen froyo on the evo and most of my friends didn'tnotice a difference.
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That is not what the op said.
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Perhaps you should read the op, and reread my response. The V8 browser boost, JIT, and memory management upgrades are very apparent to someone who knows what they're looking at regarding performance.
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I just played with a Galaxy with 2.2 Froyo. And I can honestly say I see absolutely no performance upgrade. Yes flash is there and a few added features we all no about in froyo. But nothing noticeable! There was still lag on the lock screen and animations. Market was better, browser seemed the same when I tested speed against my fascinate. Except flash.
Was I getting excited for nothing? Any
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Four words. Just In Time Compiler.
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Perhaps you should read the op, and reread my response. The V8 browser boost, JIT, and memory management upgrades are very apparent to someone who knows what they're looking at regarding performance.
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Please. If you need to be told about performance to notice it, then its a placebo. Maybe you should re-read. The op never said they didn't know what froyo adds, as you insinuate. They said they didn't see a performance increase. Two very different things. Coming from Froyo on two different phones....a lot of these performance increases are situational, and not translating into overall performance increases.
Plus how can you say the op is wrong about galaxy s froyo if he had tried it and you have not? Samsung has a track record for screwing **** up.
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Please. If you need to be told about performance to notice it, then its a placebo. Maybe you should re-read. The op never said they didn't know what froyo adds, as you insinuate. They said they didn't see a performance increase. Two very different things.
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Well, okay. Since you said please. Lol.
There's a notable performance difference is my point. Having played with quite a few 2.1 and 2.2 roms on my Nexus, it is night and day. Heavy apps and games load quicker and run smoother. Hard multitasking doesn't cause any drag. The browser is twice as fast running side by sides.
Ill speak more plainly then, so perhaps you can catch on to my point.
My mother in law plays farmville and checks email. If I upgrade her 1.8 ghz P4 with a gig of ram to a quad core 2.6 ghz and 6gb gaming memory, she really isn't going to see much of a performance difference in farmville and hotmail.
However, when I run photoshop, play with video editing, or crank up Fallout3, it will be very evident.
JIT is not a placebo. Nor is the V8 browser, or the kernel based memory management improvements that 2.2 brings.
So again, if you do not see the performance enhancements, then you do not know what you are looking for.
This is a statement, not an opinion.
As for samsung screwing it up, it is possible, though I won't care a whit as soon as I can get into either a clean AOSP froyo rom, or a CM port.
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I've used a Nexus One before and after Froyo. We use the phone as a "computer" for research purposes. The performance upgrade may not be readily apparent to the average user but JIT really boosts performance for computations. Froyo also adds some API's that developers can use to boost performance.
From what I read the J.I.T COMPILER doesn't do much for the humming bird processor and gpu.....it improves performance much more on SNAPDRAGON Processors.
Even with flash turned off I've seen videos of the iphone loading SOME webpages faster than the nexus one with 2.2.... that irks me cause I hate APPLE
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From what I read the J.I.T COMPILER doesn't do much for the humming bird processor and gpu.....it improves performance much more on SNAPDRAGON Processors.
Even with flash turned off I've seen videos of the iphone loading SOME webpages faster than the nexus one with 2.2.... that irks me cause I hate APPLE
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I rest my case.
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From what I read the J.I.T COMPILER doesn't do much for the humming bird processor and gpu.....it improves performance much more on SNAPDRAGON Processors.
Even with flash turned off I've seen videos of the iphone loading SOME webpages faster than the nexus one with 2.2.... that irks me cause I hate APPLE
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Well not that it matters but my phone on 2.1/voodoo/OC with xScope loads "some" web pages (as in all 3 I tried) faster than the ipad I played with.
Daswolven you rest your case.... what was that?
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Your last post illustrates very clearly that you don't understand what you are trying to elaborate on.
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I rest my case.
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You rest your case of the iPhone loading some webpages faster than Nexus on 2.2?
You are so wrong. I know your a android fan boy but again you have no clue. Its a fact that JIT improves snapdragons much more than the hummingbird. Much more!!
You have no point, no case because your not basing it on experience or fact.
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My point was 2.2 doesn't offer much improvement in real world use atleast on galaxy s.... that's my point
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You are so wrong. I know your a android fan boy but again you have no clue. Its a fact that JIT improves snapdragons much more than the hummingbird. Much more!!
You have no point, no case because your not basing it on experience or fact.
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Awesome.
Okay, I am wide open. Please explain technically, or point to a source that explains how the snapdragon works better than the hummingbird with a virtual engine. JIT impacts the Dalvik VM, so you have lost me here. This is a sincere question.
I'm not a developer, nor an engineer, so perhaps you can enlighten me and others on this. Clarify this with verifiable source pls.
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Well, Virgin Mobile has it now which means sprint will soon. I have a feeling my great grandchildren playing with my phone when im dead and gone will get the update if they're lucky. Anyone suggest a good phone? This phone has got to go...
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I personally love this phone, even with 2.1 it still amazes anybody I show it to. Of course I must have been lucky cause I suffer no lag issues or any other issues other users post on here. I score a 930 on quadrant stock and mid 8's in linpack which doesn't prove anything but it is what it is. A friend of mine with the droid x (which I like also) can't believe how much snappier my fascinate is even though he runs 2.2... This phone will be hard to beat for a while IMO of course!
I think a good phone fit you to try is John's phone. You'll never have to worry about updates
This phone is fine without froyo. This thread is pointless. And has nothing to do with the fascinate.
good day.
I think you are confused about which virgin mobile got the update.
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I personally love this phone, even with 2.1 it still amazes anybody I show it to. Of course I must have been lucky cause I suffer no lag issues or any other issues other users post on here. I score a 930 on quadrant stock and mid 8's in linpack which doesn't prove anything but it is what it is. A friend of mine with the droid x (which I like also) can't believe how much snappier my fascinate is even though he runs 2.2... This phone will be hard to beat for a while IMO of course!
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I love trying new roms and all that good ****. The lack of good roms/mods for this thing due to lack of froyo is quite depressing!
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I think you are confused about which virgin mobile got the update.
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Yeah, after reading a couple articles i realized its uk.
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There is a plethora of good roms for the fasc for 2.1. Granted it isn't 2.2 but the phone is still pretty great regardless. 2.2 will come..just have to be patient. Even if it didn't I wouldn't get rid of this phone except for maybe the nexus s lol
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What is the biggest reason that the evo isn't "Iphone" smooth? I got to play with a Nexus S at bestbuy a week ago and it really was "Iphone" smooth. Is it fps or something else in the system? Before anyone flames me understand that I love my Evo and would never give it up for the iphone, just a honest and curious question. Thanks in advanced
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I heard that the iphone uses the gpu for hardware acceleration of the ui. Android phones don't yet...
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I run cm6 on my 0004 evo and it wasn't iPhone smooth on sense, but it is now....thanks cyanogen and team.
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I heard that the iphone uses the gpu for hardware acceleration of the ui. Android phones don't yet...
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I've heard this as well can anyone confirm?
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I've heard this as well can anyone confirm?
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It's true; well to be 100% accurate, not all of Android is HW accelerated. Some parts are.
On top of that the iPhone 4 has a PowerVR SGX 535 GPU which is twice as fast as the EVO's Adreno 200 GPU. For comparison, the Nexus S has the better PowerVR SGX 540 GPU (twice as fast as the 535 in the iPhone 4) but iOS's hardware acceleration still makes the UI smoother than the Nexus S with 2.3. It's rumored that Honeycomb will bring full HW acceleration and that should bring it to iOS/WP7 level smoothness for the GPUs it will support.
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It's true; well to be 100% accurate, not all of Android is HW accelerated. Some parts are.
On top of that the iPhone 4 has a PowerVR SGX 535 GPU which is twice as fast as the EVO's Adreno 200 GPU. For comparison, the Nexus S has the better PowerVR SGX 540 GPU (twice as fast as the 535 in the iPhone 4) but iOS's hardware acceleration still makes the UI smoother than the Nexus S with 2.3. It's rumored that Honeycomb will bring full HW acceleration and that should bring it to iOS/WP7 level smoothness for the GPUs it will support.
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Why is it that they didn't make it HW accelaterated since the beggining?
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LoveisPeace2012 said:
Why is it that they didn't make it HW accelaterated since the beggining?
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$$$$$$$$$$$
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$$$$$$$$$$$
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I don't understand, they wanted money for what exactly? Isn't having HW accel. on in the first place even a better selling point than nothing?
Just install CM6 for super silky smoothness.
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Why is it that they didn't make it HW accelaterated since the beggining?
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I don't know, could be a number of reasons. Android was first influenced by the blackberry OS and started changing it to be more iOS like once the iPhone was released. Could be that its taken this long to catch up to something which was lower in priority. Maybe it's because there are tons of GPUs on Android phones and its hard to support them all. A lot of the early Android phones were from HTC (which Google used to build the platform - G1, Ion, and only comparably, the N1) and had some pretty crap GPUs, maybe that held it back. Most likely it was a combination of these.
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The lack of 4g isn't going to bring me to use cm.
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The lack of 4g isn't going to bring me to use cm.
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That should change very soon.
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Vivix729 said:
Just install CM6 for super silky smoothness.
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It still doesn't come anywhere close to being as smooth as the iPhone.
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It still doesn't come anywhere close to being as smooth as the iPhone.
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IPhone might be smooth but the lack of REAL push notifications, lack of TRUE multitasking killed it for me but that was back when I had one. Don't know if its still the same lol but its overrated for sure if you ask me.
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That should change very soon.
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Yeah I hope so.
So the bottom line for the UI to be smooth is hardware acceleration.... which is expected to be included in Android 3.0?
DarkManX4lf said:
The lack of 4g isn't going to bring me to use cm.
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Right!
Why would I give up a major part of the phones capabilities when I paid for the phone? Kinda kills the point
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sucks for you guys. i'm using myn's with net's 4.3 kernel and it's as smooth as can be.
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IPhone might be smooth but the lack of REAL push notifications, lack of TRUE multitasking killed it for me but that was back when I had one. Don't know if its still the same lol but its overrated for sure if you ask me.
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I don't disagree with you at all, but this thread is about the smoothness, not all the other features.
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sucks for you guys. i'm using myn's with net's 4.3 kernel and it's as smooth as can be.
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Once again, still not as smooth as the iPhone.
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Once again, still not as smooth as the iPhone.
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my girl has an iphone. i'd say i can make a pretty accurate comparison, being able to hold one in each hand at the same time.
don't get all butthurt because someone is saying you're wrong.
I'm not butthurt at all. I should have said iPhone4, because that is what I was referring to. If she has an older iPhone then I would say yes, the EVO *can be* smoother. But If she has an iPhone4, then you need to get your eyes checked.
Ok guys I think I have figured out why the Samsung Vibrant has been getting no support in terms of updates from anyone including samfirmware.com! If you think about it all other Galaxy S phones and the Galaxy S 4G (Or Vibrant 4G) has had lots of leaks and even ETA's for updates except our Vibrant. Why? Simple. T-Mobile is doing what they tried to do for Froyo! There going to bring updates and bugfixes to the Vibrant 4G first alongside the other Galaxy S devices and use it as another justification to purchase that phone, then a couple months later or perhaps not at all the OG Vibrant might get some bug fixes and a Gingerbread update!
Please reply what you guys think on either this post or your theory on why the last leak we got was KB5 back in Feburary.
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Ok guys I think I have figured out why the Samsung Vibrant has been getting no support in terms of updates from anyone including samfirmware.com! If you think about it all other Galaxy S phones and the Galaxy S 4G (Or Vibrant 4G) has had lots of leaks and even ETA's for updates except our Vibrant. Why? Simple. T-Mobile is doing what they tried to do for Froyo! There going to bring updates and bugfixes to the Vibrant 4G first alongside the other Galaxy S devices and use it as another justification to purchase that phone, then a couple months later or perhaps not at all the OG Vibrant might get some bug fixes and a Gingerbread update!
Please reply what you guys think on either this post or your theory on why the last leak we got was KB5 back in Feburary.
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I don't know but i read something today that said google stepped in and now is sending updates to all phones on ATT which means folks who had older phones will get upgraded as well.. here is the article - http://socialbarrel.com/google-delivers-android-2-3-gingerbread-to-att-devices/11881/
I hope they do the same for T-mobile and help customers like us with samsung (vibrant and behold ) users alike..
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I hope they do the same for T-mobile and help customers like us with samsung (vibrant and behold ) users alike..
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Bleh.... I'll just buy my answer to this problem: Hello, nexus prime!
I don't care much 4 dah update I just feel bad 4 dah average Joe cuz I remember how bad an laggy 2.1 was but some people have had better experiences with it
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Why isn't there "No more Samsung/ T-mobile" this time for the gingerbread?
i wish one of the dev can port the vibrant 4g 2.3 or 2.4 Rom to the vibrant i have been using the vibrant 4g with 2.3 and it is not bad at all it work real good better than most of the 2.3 or 2.4 Rom out there.
Could someone explain to me in plain English the big deal with 2.3 /2.4? I get 2.1 to 2.2 gave us flash... what's the big deal with the new ver?
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Could someone explain to me in plain English the big deal with 2.3 /2.4? I get 2.1 to 2.2 gave us flash... what's the big deal with the new ver?
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Better optimization for hummingbird CPU.
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geoffcorey said:
Better optimization for hummingbird CPU.
OK.. same with 2.1 to 2.2 ...could you really tell? No...
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accordex said:
Could someone explain to me in plain English the big deal with 2.3 /2.4? I get 2.1 to 2.2 gave us flash... what's the big deal with the new ver?
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Besides the crt animation, an average user wouldn't notice the difference. I like the multitasking of gingerbread.
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-your comment about 2.1 to 2.2-
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No, 2.1 to 2.2 optimized snapdragon cpus. Hummingbird got hardly any jump. Gb fixed that.
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+1 to hummingbird optimization.
TW4/4.5 also runs smoother on GB than Froyo (4/4.5 is a HUGE plus over the stock TW)
Some apps also required 2.3 (such as Netflix before they updated it to allow froyo)
CRT
probably more than I can't think off my head right now
edit: heres a pretty good comprehensive list and description
http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.3-highlights.html
we will reap the full benefits once we get an official 2.3 release (accompanied with source) so our talented devs optimize 2.3 for us.
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No, 2.1 to 2.2 optimized snapdragon cpus. Hummingbird got hardly any jump. Gb fixed that.
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Did it? I've seen no great evidence of this on the international S's official GB
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Better optimization for hummingbird CPU.
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Only on aosp based 2.3 roms
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I was tired of my vibrants jumpy inconsistent gps so got myself a Galaxy S 4G and installed the latest KG4 GB. The stock GB runs smoother than Cynogenmod for vibrant.
GB may be a minor upgrade but its a major upgrade for us due to hummingbird optimizations. Also the battery life is MUCH better on GB.
TouchWiz speed only matters for those who choose to use it
I use GO Launcher EX and love it.
Free, fast, beautiful, and more features than TW.
I was hoping tmobile was going the way of att with gb updates...in the mean time, new phone!. Haven't decided which yet though
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Did it? I've seen no great evidence of this on the international S's official GB
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As much as I hate to reference quadrants, GB boosted the CPU scores portion of the test significantly for the SGS
So I had my hands on an ATT MB860, 4.5.91, Gingerbread Atrix, but returned it due to the immense lag with live wall papers and the incorrectly working speakerphone.
Does an unlaggy (with lwp) Atrix exist? I've seen a couple of demo 2.3.4. Atrix's at my local (United States) ATT stores, and seen that they react the same wya (immense lag, but quick to open web pages and apps). Are laggy Atrix's a result of quality control or the FW? Or does an unlaggy Atrix exist?
I dont experience any lag on my Atrix - I've had it since Feb 21st of this year. Got it on pre-order.
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I dont experience any lag on my Atrix - I've had it since Feb 21st of this year. Got it on pre-order.
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even with live wall papers, its as smooth as butter? running 2.3.4?
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even with live wall papers, its as smooth as butter? running 2.3.4?
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On the rare occasion I do use an LP - yes, still smooth.
i had horrible lag, not with Cyanogen though.
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Don't feed the trolls
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Sorry.... I now have the chance of either getting a Nexus S, or a replacement Atrix for my ATT service. I've heard of some Atrix's being flawlessly fast and smooth regardless, however, I still have not seen it with my phone + a couple of ATT's stores demo models. I was wondering if I should jump to a "future-proof" dual core Atrix or a presently smooth Nexus S.
Only you can answer that question.
Uhm, doesn't the AT&T Nexus S NOT have 4G?
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Sorry.... I now have the chance of either getting a Nexus S, or a replacement Atrix for my ATT service. I've heard of some Atrix's being flawlessly fast and smooth regardless, however, I still have not seen it with my phone + a couple of ATT's stores demo models. I was wondering if I should jump to a "future-proof" dual core Atrix or a presently smooth Nexus S.
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I own both, Atrix is better. YMMV.
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TheBassman369 said:
I own both, Atrix is better. YMMV.
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In what ways?.. I do know the Atrix has a better battery, processor, and light notification... what does the Nexus S usurp the Atrix on?
Why does everyone like live wallpapers. I never get them.
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In what ways?.. I do know the Atrix has a better battery, processor, and light notification... what does the Nexus S usurp the Atrix on?
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In addition to what you mentioned, speed, memory management (so many launcher redraws and apps closing with only 512 MB of RAM), and screen resolution are what makes the Atrix better for me.
However, the Nexus has a much brighter and more colorful screen, albeit with a lower resolution. Personally, I like the higher res screen on the Atrix.
About the only thing the NS has over the Atrix is the fact that it's supported by Google.
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Why does everyone like live wallpapers. I never get them.
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They are OK. I find it kind of odd that my "weaker" Captivate can run live wallpapers smoother than an Atrix. Shouldn't the Atrix be blazingly smooth?
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They are OK. I find it kind of odd that my "weaker" Captivate can run live wallpapers smoother than an Atrix. Shouldn't the Atrix be blazingly smooth?
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You would think so but Moto did a bad job installing a bloated and heaving UI over the android OS. If you want that blazing speed than install CM7 like most of us have and its the quickest phone I've ever used.
no lag here at all
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Why does everyone like live wallpapers. I never get them.
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I think they are sometimes distracting, and too much of a battery drain myself...
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You would think so but Moto did a bad job installing a bloated and heaving UI over the android OS. If you want that blazing speed than install CM7 like most of us have and its the quickest phone I've ever used.
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I wouldn't say "most of us". I've never been impressed with cyanogen on any of my andriod phones.
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I wouldn't say "most of us". I've never been impressed with cyanogen on any of my andriod phones.
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Many will be installing it if that's the only way wlthat we end up tasting ICS...
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I wouldn't say "most of us". I've never been impressed with cyanogen on any of my andriod phones.
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Still is most of us, one person doesn't change it
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So I was running Mostly Stock for a long time, and was pretty happy with it...except for the periodic annoying EL3
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Let's try that again So I've been on mostly stock...not overclocked. I was normally getting around 18-1950 quadrant scores... So I updated to Sleeper ROM (el30, odexed)...it seems about the same performance-wise...but I only get ~1300 on quadrant!
I was wondering if that was some effect of the odexed vs deodexed...but I don't see how. I don't see a difference in my daily driving...just thought I would ask what other people feel about such things...
Also, I'm still running ext4... If I can convince myself to go MTD, I would probably try clean GB... But I don't want to go back to rds...
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RDS... My typing was a victim of Swype...
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Let's try that again So I've been on mostly stock...not overclocked. I was normally getting around 18-1950 quadrant scores... So I updated to Sleeper ROM (el30, odexed)...it seems about the same performance-wise...but I only get ~1300 on quadrant!
I was wondering if that was some effect of the odexed vs deodexed...but I don't see how. I don't see a difference in my daily driving...just thought I would ask what other people feel about such things...
Also, I'm still running ext4... If I can convince myself to go MTD, I would probably try clean GB... But I don't want to go back to rds...
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nope its more for fps testing. It has no real world preformance meaning...
No. They can be fooled with scripts. The only thing that should ever matter is how fast a ROM seems to you.
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Of course they are !!!!!!
How else would we compare e-peens on here
Trololol. But seriously, mtd performs the best but the quadrants are a little lower than ext4. So basically, it means nothing.
That's why I'm not sure why all the phone review n comparison videos use quadrant to test performance. Then I laugh when it tells them one phone is "faster" than the other but the specs are worse XD.
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The scores are a great way to determine what setup works best on each specific phone, but does a poor job of comparing performance between different phones.
As such, if you are looking at the scores in respect to what others got, its not much of a help
But if you are using it for what makes your phone work better, as far as different ROMs, Kernels, and different combos, then it can be very helpful
I feel like Antutu seems to score in an arbitrary way that works. I can't say why but the number match the performance I feel more often than not. Some outliers, but a decent way to compare on some level.