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HD2 work on ATT 3G

Does the current HD2 that one can buy from various sources work on the ATT 3G network with a current ATT SIM card?

No, You will not get 3G. the current phones do not have the 850MHZ that ATT uses for 3G.
You have to wait till mid to end of this month when the phone is out with the 850MHZ.

Where is this info from? if this is true I will certainly be getting the hd2. Will it be 850/1900?

The phone will have 850MHZ.
I have been told it will should be out mid to end of this month in Australia.
I bought my HD from there and will be buying the HD2 as soon as it is out.

n4v1n said:
Where is this info from? if this is true I will certainly be getting the hd2. Will it be 850/1900?
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From HTC australia. It'll come out for the Telstra's NextG network which runs on 850/2100. Since AT&T is overhauling their 1900mhz tower for the much faster 850mhz, the 850/2100 Telstra version is very ideal.

i'm kinda afriad of buying the HTC HD2 that will come to the US in the Q1 of 2010.
I have one question about it ,,, if i bought it " US HD2 " ,, is it going to work outside the US and work with other carrier like the iPhone for example?

thedeathblow said:
i'm kinda afriad of buying the HTC HD2 that will come to the US in the Q1 of 2010.
I have one question about it ,,, if i bought it " US HD2 " ,, is it going to work outside the US and work with other carrier like the iPhone for example?
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Ok let's clear some things up. The "US HD2" is the T-Mobile version. T-MOBILE. What does this mean? If you're with AT&T and bought the "US HD2"/TMobile version, you can talk but will be limited to EDGE for data...no 3G. The HD2 is a quadband phone so you can use it to talk all over the world. Notice that i bold only the word talk? You won't be able to get 3G outside of the US unless the country/carrier you're visiting has 1700/2100 UMTS/3G band (which most don't). So if you're visiting other countries, you can talk all you want, but will more than likely stuck with EDGE for data. Period.
So let's recap:
1) "US HD2" = T-Mobile USA version
2) Telstra NextG HD2 (australian) = compatible with AT&T 3G
3) HD2 is a quadband phone for voice. You can talk on pretty much any country.
4) HD2 is a dualband phone for UMTS/3G/data. You will be stuck with EDGE unless you have the correct band.
5) Tmobile sucks
6) ?????
7) PROFIT!

lude219 said:
2) Telstra NextG HD2 (australian) = compatible with AT&T 3G
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so if i bought from Telstra NextG, i can work with At&t 3G using at$t? and also TALKING if i'm using other carer like T-Mobile?

thedeathblow said:
so if i bought from Telstra NextG, i can work with At&t 3G using at$t? and also TALKING if i'm using other carer like T-Mobile?
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Not at the same time. To use a carrier's service (data or voice) you need a sim from that carrier. So to use at&t data you need an at&t sim; to use T-mo voice you need a T-mo sim. The HD2 is not a dual-sim phone, so you can only have one sim installed at a time, and therefore can only be using either at&t or T-mobile at any given time. You can swap sims if the phone is unlocked to use the other carrier's services. I have no idea if the Telstra HD2 will be unlocked or is unlockable...maybe someone who is using a Telstra HD in the USA can respond to that issue.
Hope this helps.

so i take it that T-mo and ATT use different frequencies for their 3g?

JSmid6 said:
so i take it that T-mo and ATT use different frequencies for their 3g?
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Yep,
T-mobile use 1700MHz 3G frequency in the USA when most of 3G compatible devices (at&t) run on 850/1900MHz 3G/HSDPA freqencies

Hi,
I am a new user and I hope I am in the right place.
I just came back from Sydney Australia, and while I was there I bought teh HTC HD2 phone. WHen I got it it had all the Telstra crap on it and It was useless for me since I have t-mobile.
After I bought, I updated the ROM to RUU_Leo_HTC_WWE_1.66.405.2_Radio_Signed_15.30.50.07U_2.06.51.07_Ship.exe
I had to use HSPL but I got it to work.
I just arrived to New York today and I could not wait to turn on the phone and see it in action. To my dispointment, I could not get 3G on it. The band and network are set to AUTO. The only thing I get is Edge.
I tried all manual bands and no luck
So then I tried to update the ROM to LEO_2.02.531.14_WWE_B28223\LEO_2.02.531.14_WWE_B28223
But it does not seem to work, no home screen just HTC and the windows start icon, phone and contacts appear on the bottom. Dont know whats wrong?? but perhaps some can shed some light.
Going back to ROM to RUU_Leo_HTC_WWE_1.66.405.2_Radio_Signed_15.30.50.07U_2.06.51.07_Ship.exe for now.
Just want to know if I am on the right path?? Will this phone I bought work with t-mobile 3g service?
and what ROM is the best for this HTC HD2 phone and how can I get it?
Any tips would be awesome !
Thanks

richsark said:
Just want to know if I am on the right path?? Will this phone I bought work with t-mobile 3g service?
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That phone will not work with US T-Mobile. Sell it on ebay and wait for the US T-Mo HD2.
T-Mobile uses the weird 1700/2100 UTMS bands in the US, and pretty much only phones made specifically for it will work.

Crap'po'la
I was afraid of that. so I can use it, just wont get 3G
So no ROMS would help right?
Is there A ROM that is better then what I have now? I have RUU_Leo_HTC_WWE_1.66.405.2_Radio_Signed_15.30.50.07U_2.06.51.07_Ship.exe
Thanks

hey richsark ill take it off your hands

Hi, well... whats the offer? on a 3 day old phone??

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Hi, The phone I bought straight from the Telstra shop was unlocked. I did put my SIM in it and it registers as TMobile but no 3G. ( I did this in the States) Over there in Sydney with my Tmobile SIM it was 3G !
My guess is the bands are not compatible. I am stuck with Edge I guess... unless there is a way to make it work
Thanks

TMobile will have a roaming agreement with Telstra which means while in Australia you will have connected to the Telstra 3G network using the 850MHz frequency, but as a "visitor". Once back in the US the TMobile network uses 1700MHz which the Telstra version of the HD2 won't work with.
I travel a fair bit to the US and UK for work so prior to the HD2 I had a 850/1900/2100 UMTS phone which covered me for AT&T in the US. Now that AT&T are moving to use 850 more widely the lack of 1900 won't be a problem and 2100 is used widely in the UK and Europe.

HD2 and Nexus One on T-Mobile USA ???

Given the poor 3G coverage on T-Mobile in the US, why would two powerful phones such as the Nexus One and HD2 be relegated there? It is as if they are sabotoging themselves by being on T-Mob. (This paragraph was rhetorical).
My X1i is on it's last leg (screen blank in landscape and microphone not working) and I want to replace it. Currently, HD2 is the only thing that is appealing. I think I am going to hack one of the overseas models to work on 850MHz 3G on AT&T and forego waiting for the T-Mob model. Thanks XDA.
Hopefully, someone will make a step-by-step sticky on how to get the HD2 working on AT&T 3G USA.

1. Hard-SPL
2. Flash custom ROM
3. Insert SIM
That's what I did to get it working on Telus' 850mhz 3G. I remember the dude who made the huge thread about being the first in the US with a T9193 saying it was similarly easy.
If you just put your AT&T SIM in, you'll be able to send/receive texts, and make calls, but Telstra has the data connection settings locked down pretty heavily in the stock ROM...

OK, yeah, I was just looking through some of that thread. I thought it said something about changing or not changing radios. Is this already taken care of inside the custom ROMs ?

WhyBe said:
OK, yeah, I was just looking through some of that thread. I thought it said something about changing or not changing radios. Is this already taken care of inside the custom ROMs ?
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As far as I know you don't need to change the radio.
I didn't have to.

Great, thanks.
What type of price did you get? I see them from less than $700 to more than $900.

WhyBe said:
Given the poor 3G coverage on T-Mobile in the US, why would two powerful phones such as the Nexus One and HD2 be relegated there? It is as if they are sabotoging themselves by being on T-Mob. (This paragraph was rhetorical).
My X1i is on it's last leg (screen blank in landscape and microphone not working) and I want to replace it. Currently, HD2 is the only thing that is appealing. I think I am going to hack one of the overseas models to work on 850MHz 3G on AT&T and forego waiting for the T-Mob model. Thanks XDA.
Hopefully, someone will make a step-by-step sticky on how to get the HD2 working on AT&T 3G USA.
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if your device doesnot 850 mhz you will not be able to use 3g in usa it is hardware not software

hoss_n2 said:
if your device doesnot 850 mhz you will not be able to use 3g in usa it is hardware not software
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Thanks, however, that wasn't the question. It was already answered above.
Thanks all

hoss_n2 said:
if your device doesnot 850 mhz you will not be able to use 3g in usa it is hardware not software
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WhyBe said:
Thanks, however, that wasn't the question. It was already answered above.
Thanks all
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You need to make sure that the HD2 you buy has HSPA/WCDMA 850 MHz (not just GSM 850 MHz), because most do not.

harolds said:
You need to make sure that the HD2 you buy has HSPA/WCDMA 850 MHz (not just GSM 850 MHz), because most do not.
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Yes, based on what I am reading, getting the Telstra model with 850MHz 3G band should be compatible with 850MHz 3G AT&T in the U.S.
The designated-"U.S." model is designed for T-Mobile 3G (1700MHz or 2100MHz)

WhyBe said:
(1700MHz AND 2100MHz)
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I fixed that for you -- phones won't work on T-Mobile 3G without BOTH 1700 and 2100.

[Q] MT3GS on Rogers

I just bought a My Touch 3G Slide on eBay. I got it unlocked in an hour using cellunlock.net for $10 and got it all setup. However, now I'm noticing that it never goes into 3G, just EDGE.
I searched to find if it could even work with Rogers' 3G network and I'm even more confused. So does it work with Rogers' 3G?
I've also seen posts that it works on HSPA. I've used the APNs for Rogers' HSPA and still I'm getting just EDGE. Do I have to update my radio, use CM6 or something?
Sorry, I'm new to the MT3GS. I have a MT3G/Magic and I thought the new one would be pretty much the same except with a keyboard.

I *think* that Roger's uses the AT&T bands for 3G, not T-Mobile. Sorry.

h.nocturna said:
I *think* that Roger's uses the AT&T bands for 3G, not T-Mobile. Sorry.
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thats correct, Att and Rodgers uses the 1900mhz band and the mt3gs only has the 1700 NA band and the 850/2100mhz EU bands

That sucks. So it won't work on HSPA either then? I though Rogers offers one of those USB modems that works on 2100MHz HSPDA. Will that work with the MT3GS?

kapernando said:
That sucks. So it won't work on HSPA either then? I though Rogers offers one of those USB modems that works on 2100MHz HSPDA. Will that work with the MT3GS?
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It has the 2100mhz band, but that is so you can have 3G when you go to europe. Rogers only broadcasts 1900mhz in CA.

Damn. Oh well, my wife won't know the difference between EDGE and 3G anyway. Thanks.

sorry i don't belong in this forum but how do you guys explain the g1 having 3g then its a tmobile phone does it have a att frequency for no reason?

Rogers actually sold G1s so they probably got their own version that will work on their network.
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kapernando said:
Rogers actually sold G1s so they probably got their own version that will work on their network.
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unlocked g1's from the US work on rogers network.

Beats me. The myTouch 3G Slide I got from the US works too just not on 3G but on Edge.
Sent from my HTC Magic using XDA App

OK, I finally get that the frequency band is a hardware thing and that Rogers and T-Mobile use different bands.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands
So is it possible to change the actual cell phone radio chip and write a ROM that will work with it? I realize it's crazy, but with all the Android development going on, you'd think someone would have tired to get some device that only worked with T-Mobile to work on At&t.

Will the D2 Global work on T-Mobile?

I saw that its going to be quadband. Does that mean T-Mobile's 3G will work on it? Thanks..
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using telepathy and unicorn dust!

I think so... Expansys detail the Milestone 2 and Droid 2 as Quad Band and the exact specs...
Hope that helps!

Probably not. Probably has the same bands as Droid Pro which according to leaked documentation has UMTS 850/1900/2100.
There is no reason for them to include AWS in the Droid 2 Global since the only companies that use AWS are in North America where there are CDMA networks.

petard said:
Probably not. Probably has the same bands as Droid Pro which according to leaked documentation has UMTS 850/1900/2100.
There is no reason for them to include AWS in the Droid 2 Global since the only companies that use AWS are in North America where there are CDMA networks.
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But it's quad band.. you only listed three bands, no?

sinistersai4d4d said:
But it's quad band.. you only listed three bands, no?
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Quad GSM Tri UMTS Dual CDMA
GSM only is run on four bands worldwide, so any quadband GSM phone will work on any GSM network. UMTS has a large mess of bands and you need a phone which supports your network.

petard said:
Quad GSM Tri UMTS Dual CDMA
GSM only is run on four bands worldwide, so any quadband GSM phone will work on any GSM network. UMTS has a large mess of bands and you need a phone which supports your network.
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Ahh. ok.. well I hope you're wrong lol. I kinda wanna try this on t-mobile when my girl gets her D2G

There is a possibility of a carrier lock. US carriers could be locked out.
Sent from my DROID2 using XDA App

I'm sure it will work on tmobile. I've had several storms on tmobile. Different brand, same general idea. WORLD PHONES!
Sent from my Vibrant.
Oh yea, I'm also sure that IF it works on tmobile, it won't be 3g that you get. Edge only. Just like iPhone, which SUCKS!

mikeyinid said:
I'm sure it will work on tmobile. I've had several storms on tmobile. Different brand, same general idea. WORLD PHONES!
Sent from my Vibrant.
Oh yea, I'm also sure that IF it works on tmobile, it won't be 3g that you get. Edge only. Just like iPhone, which SUCKS!
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^Yeah, I figured it would work on 2g, I was HOPING it would work on 3G.. but I should have known it was too much to ask. I used my iPhone on T-Mobile edge.. it was bearable... but now hspa+ has spoiled me.

sinistersai4d4d said:
^Yeah, I figured it would work on 2g, I was HOPING it would work on 3G.. but I should have known it was too much to ask. I used my iPhone on T-Mobile edge.. it was bearable... but now hspa+ has spoiled me.
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I just got rid of my iphone for a vibrant...tmobiles 3g is not much better than edge. But I hear ya, it would be nice if the"3g" phones we take over worked on the network the way they were intended.
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mikeyinid said:
I just got rid of my iphone for a vibrant...tmobiles 3g is not much better than edge. But I hear ya, it would be nice if the"3g" phones we take over worked on the network the way they were intended.
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Yeah 3g on my g1 was subpar. But im in a "4g" area now and get 3 to 6mbps no matter where I am in my city (Albany, NY).
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Albany huh? I was born in binghamton. I live in idaho now and I don't think we get 4g anywhere here yet...can't wait til we do. 3 to 6 sounds great to me!
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Will this work overseas?

I am thinking of purchasing this phone as a wedding gift. He lives in pakistan. Will unlocking this phone and popping in a local sim be enough, or are different bands used in the US that would make this phone incompatible?
Thanks
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pwnjabi1 said:
I am thinking of purchasing this phone as a wedding gift. He lives in pakistan. Will unlocking this phone and popping in a local sim be enough, or are different bands used in the US that would make this phone incompatible?
Thanks
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The phone should work fine, but the big question is will 3G work

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UMTS_networks#Asia
So it should work as far as i can tell.
But i am also wondering, if it'll work just fine in Germany, because e.g. Vodafone uses 1900 as UMTS-Uplink 2100 as UMTS-Downlink - according to Google's specs, NS supports UMTS 900, 2100, 1700 and GSM 850, 900, 1800, 1900.
So what's with the UMTS-Uplink

Thanks for the responses guys. I think pakistan still has some time before introducing 3g fully, so no worries.
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pwnjabi1 said:
I am thinking of purchasing this phone as a wedding gift. He lives in pakistan. Will unlocking this phone and popping in a local sim be ekgnough, or are different bands used in the US that would make this phone incompatible?
Thanks
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It will definitely work there in both 2g and 3g, and it's sold unlocked out of the box.

kabumm said:
But i am also wondering, if it'll work just fine in Germany, because e.g. Vodafone uses 1900 as UMTS-Uplink 2100 as UMTS-Downlink - according to Google's specs, NS supports UMTS 900, 2100, 1700 and GSM 850, 900, 1800, 1900.
So what's with the UMTS-Uplink
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Any news on this one?

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Any news on this one?
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Well, i did some research and seems like UK also uses 2100 down and 1900 up, which would mean, if it works there it should work here in Germany too.
But i really cant tell, because i just don't know really much about these frequency-stuff.
Would be glad, if someone could help us out on this one

It works with every carrier in the Netherlands and Germany as well.
I'm gonna order one tomorrow to replace my N1

mingkee said:
It will definitely work there in both 2g and 3g, and it's sold unlocked out of the box.
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So even if I buy it on contract it's unlocked?
It would need to work in Asia mostly for me when I travel, but my main concern would be having it unlocked. I have been using an unlocked iphone for now and I just getting tired of it.

cypher21 said:
It works with every carrier in the Netherlands and Germany as well.
I'm gonna order one tomorrow to replace my N1
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It will work on T-mobile as well?

Singlespeed said:
So even if I buy it on contract it's unlocked?
It would need to work in Asia mostly for me when I travel, but my main concern would be having it unlocked. I have been using an unlocked iphone for now and I just getting tired of it.
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It is SIM unlocked whether you buy it contract or with out contract (full price). it should pretty much work anywhere in the world who uses GSM technology, pop in your sim card and use the phone. The only concern is the data, you have to check the network frequencies, worst case scenario is you get the 2G, Edge speed, if the country the you are going is not the same as T-mobile USA network data frequencies. This is my understanding, if somebody out there who knows if I this information is wrong, you are more than welcome to correct me

I'm getting the Nexus S buy the end of december. The thing is that I'm in India and we use the 1900Mhz uplink and 2100Mhz downlink.. Since the Nexus S uses only the downlink frequency does that mean that the phone will not work on the Indian 3G networks.?

ordered mine from USA, will be getting today by DHL, will update.