We know why the scroll lag is a problem but there is no progress with it for nearly a month so I decided to waste some time capturing the phenomenon on video. Here is a comparison between michyprima's old r0 build (September, 24) and current hastarin's r7.4 (in fact, all both michyprima's and hastarin's kernels after r0 and r4.1 respectively are affected with this problem on my device; bare kernel from netripper.com is affected too, so the reason is there):
michyprima r0: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiPkdV7SLVA
hastarin r7.4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Te8FUNTgxOE
UPD: fixed hastarin r7.5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0w7fHSHWwY
The question is, is it possible to make a kernel with reverted changes to touchscreen driver (or whatever causes the lag)? Is it possible for me to do it myself? I don't know a thing about kernel code but.. I'm really eager to get all the progress gained by devs in last 20 days and I really can't be happy with it because of the horrible screen lag which besides being ugly doesn't allow to use the keyboard smoothly.
Sorry for my English and thanks for your time and efforts. I'll be happy to find a solution.
Thanks to devs again.
UPDATE 1:
Most people confirmed having this issue with hastarin's r4.1 to r7.4 kernels, though there are people who seem to not have it at all. I share memin1857's guess that the reason could be existence of two types of hardware digitizers, one of which shows the lag with latest kernel from git, and the other doesn't.
Thanks to hastarin, this issue is settled for now. And even more, with his r7.5 kernel the lag on my device is even far less than it was in r4.1! I'm very happy now guys Thank you for help! If I have some time in the evening, I'll shoot another video with a demo of r7.5 behavior for comparison.
UPDATE 2:
I've added a video with demonstration of scrolling with hastarin r7.5 on my device.
Scroll lag is eliminated. Now I'm curious if it is possible to increase the polling rate of digitizer (I guess it is around 30 Hz now) to attain smooth scrolling, like on iPhone or Galaxy S. Because with current kernels it doesn't lag anymore, but it is still choppy. What can you say about this, devs?
have you tried michyprima r11? it doesn't suffer the lag you have shown here
r11, is that a nexus kernel? The new kernels fixes Camera flash on EVO builds etc.. but the screen lag is dreadful
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have you tried michyprima r11? it doesn't suffer the lag you have shown here
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Yeah, I tried. Actually I used it before sticking with michuprima's r0 on EVO base. And I continue using the r0. But the point is that I miss all the progress coming with newer kernels because of the scroll lag I can't accept.
I've noticed this trend as well!
Scroll lag is becoming a problem for me. It feels like you have to move a heavy rock to start scrolling. It's not easy. It's annoying.
Hastrin's new kernels are good, but suffer from this scroll lag, something so important for everyday use.
Michy's Kernels suffer from blank screen issues where it takes 5 seconds to recover.
It's annoying.
Best kernel I've found was Hastrin 4.1
It's not as powerful, but it certainly most stable.
So you'll be attempting to fix the scroll lag ? I look forward to your developments
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So you'll be attempting to fix the scroll lag ? I look forward to your developments
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No, I'm a looser, not a developer. I'm only gathering the attention to this problem and I will track the development and add new thoughts on the subject.
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No, I'm a looser, not a developer. I'm only gathering the attention to this problem and I will track the development and add new thoughts on the subject.
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im a long time user, and im also interested to see this fixed.
Yea I tried both of them, scroll lag and data drops. Huanyu just cane out with one not too long ago. I'm gonna give that one a try and see if it had it too.
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So you'll be attempting to fix the scroll lag ? I look forward to your developments
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Some dev keep saying that there is no scroll-lag and is probably SD-card related. Well, there IS actually a problem with the new kernels.
I've watched the videos and I'm not getting that lag with hastarin 7.4 european hd2
There are two types of touchscreen (digitizers) for hd2. Maybe that is the reason. If you try to buy hd2 digitizer from ebay you will see the hardware is different.
http://cgi.ebay.com/LCD-Screen-Digi...Accessories&hash=item1c15714a07#ht_3061wt_905
http://cgi.ebay.com/new-Touch-Scree...Accessories&hash=item335bb268b2#ht_3579wt_905
Maybe the chips/controllers are the same I don't know, but the connector is definitely different. My post is pure guessing.
Winmo has lower lag than both videos.
I try with multitouch visualizer 2 app from market and lag is only with scrolling. Tap (touching the screen) is immediately registered.
i have tmous and i dont have any lags
I am using 7.4 and there is no lag.
I don't see it as a big deal. Maybe the devs don't see it as a big
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Some dev keep saying that there is no scroll-lag and is probably SD-card related. Well, there IS actually a problem with the new kernels.
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Yea that bs. I have a class 2,4,6 and they all have lag with the new kernels. Old kernels they are fine. I think they need to come up with a new tree to work off of.
could it be caused by this http://gitorious.org/linux-on-wince...mmit/a0fc58df35602d8c76cc4fa586b8b1865da3b92a ?
it's the commit that made ts work on nand
try reverting that commit and compiling the kernel then, maybe it will restore its responsiveness
Rajko, how come they have not figured out the screen wakeup issue?
I can confirm I get the same lag if I go any higher than hastarin 4.1.
edit: eu version.
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Yea that bs. I have a class 2,4,6 and they all have lag with the new kernels. Old kernels they are fine. I think they need to come up with a new tree to work off of.
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I do agree with your topic, at least with a 75% of your point of view. Last kernels has not made a big difference from previous ones, even we have left older where camera and flash works perfectly with no lags... we need to wait a little more, maybe now with the release from HTC of new kernels, to have a significant improve. For me the best kernels are the ones provided by Darkstone.
lol
+1, i have notice this, a few days ago, in MIUI build, check the kernel.
(BUILD) HtcClay's SuperMIUI v1.0 - STABLE (kernel michyprima #152)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8527718&postcount=135
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I'm trying this one.
why is this build more smooth than other android dedicate builds.....no lag and a very smooth scrooling.
i dont understand.
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so it must be a kernel issue.
Related
currently running froyd and am happy with it just wondered whether someone has experience of both if so whats the differences between the two and which is best overall? Not interested in overclocking or anything really technical. thanks
I know someone will say it, so I might as well be first. Rather don't ask people, but instead grab a copy yourself and test it out. It's really based on your own opinion. Each ROM works differently for others.
With features such as nandroid backups these days, there really isn't much of an excuse for not trying out alternative ROMs. If you like it, then keep it. If not, then nandroid back. However, with that said, I think both are on par with eachother and both have achieved outstanding results. It really breaks down to the small things, which you'll need to experience yourself.
ok thanks 1 problem though cant see an option to download the fusion rom?
At this stage its kinda like comparing apples with worms in with pears with worms in..
Yes its different fruit but the bugs are the same..
I haven't tried either so feel free to shoot me down but the reason for this is that I feel devs are focusing on getting everything working (which is a good thing). But because of this I feel theres not really one 2.2 rom that particularly stands out..
I'd love to be proven wrong though!! still rocking out on cm6 nightlies....
both are same
i had fusion first and later came fryod so installed fryod expecting abetter but was really disappointed because both rom turned to be exactly same, same problems in both rom just looked like fryod was a copy of fusion just a different name. now i see fusion got update but fryod is still with same problem.
known issues-
camera is only 3mega pixels
no camera preview and force closes.
crashes when u try to view a flash video
no live wallpaper
no touck key to answer a call.
thiese problems are with both fusion and fryod
CyanogenMod 6.0 is the only Froyo ROM there is, and Fusion and Froyd are each tweaks to the CM6 base. Until CM6 is finalized or Feeyo releases his Froyo-from-source ROM, they're all essentially the same. Villain probably has some kernel tweaks, and Fusion too, but all the bugs are all going to be there.
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CyanogenMod 6.0 is the only Froyo ROM there is, and Fusion and Froyd are each tweaks to the CM6 base. Until CM6 is finalized or Feeyo releases his Froyo-from-source ROM, they're all essentially the same. Villain probably has some kernel tweaks, and Fusion too, but all the bugs are all going to be there.
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Untrue.
I will post a wip copy of [email protected] in a few hours.
No CM-crap; vanilla source.
wrong in fusion rom have touch key to answer call
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Untrue.
I will post a wip copy of [email protected] in a few hours.
No CM-crap; vanilla source.
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Good, just like it should be
developing said:
CyanogenMod 6.0 is the only Froyo ROM there is, and Fusion and Froyd are each tweaks to the CM6 base. Until CM6 is finalized or Feeyo releases his Froyo-from-source ROM, they're all essentially the same. Villain probably has some kernel tweaks, and Fusion too, but all the bugs are all going to be there.
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Dito.
adwinp said:
Untrue.
I will post a wip copy of [email protected] in a few hours.
No CM-crap; vanilla source.
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Some more respect to the real developers.
I suspect your ROM will just be another compiled-straight-from-source-and-nothing-else ROM, right?
Hehe, I guess he got a reputation? Please let my previous comment slip then
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Dito.
Some more respect to the real developers.
I suspect your ROM will just be another compiled-straight-from-source-and-nothing-else ROM, right?
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Not necessarily, and 2: you misunderstood.
There are a few talented devs around, and I don't understand why everybody's copying CM's work.
CM is a great dev, but what pisses me off in the Hero section, is that everybody's ripping his work instead of trying to get it work on their own.
Innovation, make your own path, NOT imitation.
@orangeclanz:
I've checked your previous posts, and correct me if I'm wrong, but you're not really the best placed to comment whatsoever.
Secondly, nobody forces you to try anything. Just stop *****in'.
For those interested: I've finally fixed an issue with some keybindings; I will upload after a few final touches.
Well... I cannot stand the never ending begging for money from Villain and nprussel....
Villain is something like a tabloid newspaper for roms......
anyway, back on topic.
for me, difference is:
fusionrom 2.2 update 4 works great. really solid now. aside from borked camera, once you receive a phone call the trackball light notification works, the froyo-style apps2sd works (with the included cyanogenmod6 improvements allowing any app to be pushed to sd that way). it's very fast (4.5 to 4.7 linpack for me stock withotu the software overclock kernel mod). apps and games run amazingly well on it. has an issue where system.process.media (or similar) fcs after a while and after trying the gallery. I think that might be a gallery issue and maybe will be fixed soon, I don't know though. saw the same issue in froyd once but not again later?
froyd 1.0 works... ok, but it's slow. it has very nice features, the ext partition apps2sd support is nice to have (no manual file moving needed). however there are reasons to like manual moving as well, I'm a control freak, good to let me decide where to put it. but this ext parition method is certainly easier, really fast and transparent. nice. however the kernel is slow, 3.5 linpack (slow for froyo). also lots of random slowdowns. experimental kernel flash works really well and is very fast (got 5.1 linpack at 729 mHz on my phone). I did encounter some issues, not sure if it was my clock speed (which was always fine @ 729 on 2.1 roms but could be the issue still with jit froyo pushing it harder maybe). issues were google nav and some 3d games just quitting without warning and without fc messages. just quitting. google nav was serious, I was driving and it was just... gone after a few minutes. game was annoying, was playing monopoly, 20 minutes of playing, then just gone with no record of gameplay :-(. again that could be my cpu speed setting though, haven't tried further.
both ahve borked camera and no video (since video is just a recording of the screen preview... why on earth can't they write a REAL video recorder for android on the hero??? it should be possible... stupid screen capture video...)
Having tried both Froyd and Fusion, I went back to the CM nightly builds. The 20/07 build is pretty much there with everything except the camera and fb sync working. Have sorted this by using camera magic and syncmypix.
for me, this one is fast snappy and definitely the best 2.2 around currently.
@adwinp. U right.I'm not in position to comment here.so do u. Pls show some respect to other dev. As a dump user here.I do appreciate and respect all Dev works. At least I don't called it CRAP.
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adwinp said:
Not necessarily, and 2: you misunderstood.
There are a few talented devs around, and I don't understand why everybody's copying CM's work.
CM is a great dev, but what pisses me off in the Hero section, is that everybody's ripping his work instead of trying to get it work on their own.
Innovation, make your own path, NOT imitation.
@orangeclanz:
I've checked your previous posts, and correct me if I'm wrong, but you're not really the best placed to comment whatsoever.
Secondly, nobody forces you to try anything. Just stop *****in'.
For those interested: I've finally fixed an issue with some keybindings; I will upload after a few final touches.
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Well, then just don't call it CM-crap..
Yes, I agree that there are way too many CM-Mod-mods arround.. And they are all the same +/- some apks.
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Well, then just don't call it CM-crap..
Yes, I agree that there are way too many CM-Mod-mods arround.. And they are all the same +/- some apks.
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Once, more, you're misinterpreting; crap was related to the CM-rips, not CM itself.
I hope I made myself clear.
by the way, this thread really should be about which is better between:
froyd
fusionrom
cm-nightlies
the cm-nightlies are, imho, ahead of the rest. but they're nightly builds so you take a big gamble when you grab one and install it. However if there is going to be a successful camera fix my bet is that it will come from the cm-nightlies for hero team.
Just saying.... but for me I'm running fusion until some major progress happens from... someone
cheers
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Well... I cannot stand the never ending begging for money from Villain and nprussel....
Villain is something like a tabloid newspaper for roms......
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There's no mention of me asking for money, nor have I charged for any release. There's no begging, whatsoever infact. I mention it in my sig - but who doesn't?
I am a bit fed up of all the bad-mouthing I'm getting around here recently. We've not ripped anyone off.
We're in the process of making some pretty major changes/fixes to FroydVillain, and one of our developers is currently re-compiling a Froyo ROM from source - ie, pure vanilla.
As for which ROM is better... they're different. When we release our new kernel, expect over 5 mflops at a stable OC of around 748 Mhz.
Test them both, but before you make a judgement on Froyd, test it with the new (fixed) kernel - which is significantly better than the one Lox released. Ninpo over at the VillainROM forums will be more than happy to explain what makes it significantly faster if anyone's interested!
Anyway... less hate is definitely required around here
Greetings,
I want to know your opinion .. Which Kernel do you prefer and why ??
- ElBartoME 2.6.32.9 #1 OR
- michyprima's R11 OR
- Darkstone OR
- Hastarin R7.1
-----> Currently i am using Hastarin R7.1 ... Tell me your experience ...?
Thanks ...
each dev puts hard work into each build. u shouldnt single out any of them by posting this poll.
there is no "best" kernel as there are good points in all of them and together they have created their own style of working.
All of the kernels are have similar tweaks so alot of things are the same i.e darkstones graphics tweaks and michys ext batteries.
I think that this would need to be a "which kernel do you prefer" rather than a best thread as this all falls down to preference. I for example prefer michy's kernel as i like having the higher clock speed and it has never let me down. I have tried others but keep coming back to michy's
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each dev puts hard work into each build. u shouldnt single out any of them by posting this poll.
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i didn`t mean any insult for any dev .. title changed !
I prefer michyprima's R11 as I find that current evo kernels break more things than they fix.
Please move this to Android general?
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I see how this topic could become helpful. It could signal out which kernel is the most used, eventually, kernel devs could move from their stuck-up ways and work together on whichever kernel people consider to be better/more stable.
I'm on Matt 1.8 and his kernel had constant problems with data dropping and very frequent 2-3 second freezes that were just abnoxious.
I switched to hastarin 4.1 and then 7.1 and I wouldn't go back. My device's been on Android only ever since and it's staying that way.
agreed.
this is a bit of an odd issue, because personally I really don't like the Hastarin R7.1 kernels, and the darkstone ones work beautifully, but clearly that isn't the case, regarding the fact that that's the most popular one.
in retrospect, this probably isn't a very good idea for a thread, because its not going to show anyone which kernel to get, because they will most likely get a different experience to others
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I prefer michyprima's R11 as I find that current evo kernels break more things than they fix.
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can you post that kernel please been looking for that
Michy Evo R0
I actually like the Michy Evo R0 kernel. For me all the nexus one based kernels have the problem of freezing up if you let it go to standby with wifi on, once it happens you don't have much choice but to wait until it unfreezes. All the Evo kernels have the problem with the delayed flash, but that's a smaller problem for me.
I don't think telling devs they are stuck up is a good idea. I personally use which ever I wanna try. It gives them each good feedback. They make changes and those fixes spread to other kernals.
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Im running Hastarin´s (4.1 or 5 i believe) in Mattc´s 1.8, im not sure which kernel was on that one, but im getting great results with this combination, standby drain goes down to 5ma at some points, and running with no SOD, almost none touch screen freezing, really minimal, and when they occurr it gets recovered pretty fast, im really happy with it, no 3G data for me, wifi works great though.
SLDS.
PS: Sorry about my english, i hope i made sense lol
I'm using Hastarin 4.1 ... didn't decide yet to move to 7.1 till most of users say it's OK.
I tried MichyPrima as well to see if it solves the data connection issues but turned out to be almost same performance like Hastarin's.
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I find that current evo kernels break more things than they fix.
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I agree. This is why I didn't upgrade to Froyostone 3.1. Seems that all current issues still exists + delayed camera flash due to the Evo Kernel
Hastarin's 7.1 drops data like a son of a *****. I ripped the one out of Shubcraft 1.5... Never had a drop signal once.
Just go to advanced wifi settings and set wifi sleep to never
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I actually like the Michy Evo R0 kernel. For me all the nexus one based kernels have the problem of freezing up if you let it go to standby with wifi on, once it happens you don't have much choice but to wait until it unfreezes. All the Evo kernels have the problem with the delayed flash, but that's a smaller problem for me.
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Just go to advanced wifi settings and set wifi sleep to never
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Do'h! Why didn't I think of that? Of course now that I've tried the desire HD builds I really really really want to use that, but that camera doesn't work at all.
Now that I think about it, kernel code is getting better all the time, this poll really is premature. Maybe 6 months from now we can really decide.
wawa144st said:
can you post that kernel please been looking for that
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=756513
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=756513
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Haven't people doing nexus kernel, very unhappy...
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Just go to advanced wifi settings and set wifi sleep to never
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Just tried this with Michy R11 but unfortunately it doesn't fix the problem. Still freezes for a long time when I left the wifi on. Oh well, more the reason to try more builds
Even with launcher pro there is a noticeable lag switch between windows or scrolling around not found in any other nand build i tried, but only with mdj's. Is anyone else getting this weird problem?
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Even with launcher pro there is a noticeable lag switch between windows or scrolling around not found in any other nand build i tried, but only with mdj's. Is anyone else getting this weird problem?
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I use launcher pro but I don't notice the lag. it's not as fast as superram or jdms but no lag.
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Even with launcher pro there is a noticeable lag switch between windows or scrolling around not found in any other nand build i tried, but only with mdj's. Is anyone else getting this weird problem?
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I don't know what lag you are talking about but my phone runs flawless. I'm on 2.4 and I don't have problems at all..Define lag
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Even with launcher pro there is a noticeable lag switch between windows or scrolling around not found in any other nand build i tried, but only with mdj's. Is anyone else getting this weird problem?
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I think MDJ's 2.3 so popular b'cause he's the first one (i think) who perfect 2.3..
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I think MDJ's 2.3 so popular b'cause he's the first one (i think) who perfect 2.3..
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And I believe he's still the only one with a CM7-based ROM. Haven't been that active here the past weeks though so may have missed something.
MDJ is like a household brand. Typically he is quick at releasing updates and new ideas. Generally his ROMs are also Overclocked, which makes them "faster". I have found that there tends to be more minor 'glitches' in his releases, (not to the point that they are unusable though, and most go unnoticed), mainly because he is so quick at incorporating new ideas. Generally, if you want a ROM that is 'cutting edge' you use MDJ's Roms, if you want a stock look and feel rom, you don't.
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MDJ is like a household brand. Typically he is quick at releasing updates and new ideas. Generally his ROMs are also Overclocked, which makes them "faster". I have found that there tends to be more minor 'glitches' in his releases, (not to the point that they are unusable though, and most go unnoticed), mainly because he is so quick at incorporating new ideas. Generally, if you want a ROM that is 'cutting edge' you use MDJ's Roms, if you want a stock look and feel rom, you don't.
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Indeed my sentiments exactly.
My experience of MDJ's CM7 rom was mainly juddery ui and juddery launcher, no matter what I used. It was like someone cut the frame rate down to like 20 fps when moving around the rom. Everything loaded fast, and games seemed to run ok, but the UI was a complete mess for me.
I've now moved to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=909096 with MDJ's 10.4 OC Kernel ripped from his CM7 rom and I couldn't be happier performance wise. Of course I'm missing the CM settings, and Facebook sync doesn't work, but the UI is now a pleasure to navigate round again, and most importantly, it's as fast as his CM7 rom CPU performance wise (measured with Linpack).
I have not had any lag with MDJ 2.6 (nand) since I switched... You might have experienced conflicting app since Gingerbread is not fully supported by ALL of the existing market apps.
JDMS (SD Card version) I used was great and fast but MDJs is much smoother
Just made the jump to my DHD from my HD2, was cheffing for the HD2 for 18 months so thought i would start again LOL
i have made myself a build, was wondering if anyone would be interested in it if i share
its going to be for the not particularly experimental people who need and want a really stable, stock(ish) CM rom
Froyo CM 6.1.3, uber stable
Really clean, no junk apps at all
Several performance tweaks, quadrant ~ 2300
Standard CM kernel (until i build my own)
thoughts please
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gosh darnit i have put this in the wrong section, would a MOD mind miving it to the rom development section please
Unable to comply mate as any "ROM coming soon" thread is not allowed. Feel to post your downloadable file on this thread, PMme and "then" I'll send your thread to the right area.
Cheers,
M_T_M
PS: Do not post a thread over in development 'till your ROM is ready to be released, please.
No problem, on thinking about it it is probably better here until I release anyway!
How about cm7 with fixes and all since cn7 looks a helluva lot better than froyo
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Yeah man,MrYuiM is right.Gingerbread is a lot better and more nice looking.Froyo AOSP is ugly butt.Plus,I think you should release it anyway;New roms are always welcome around here!
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i have made myself a build, was wondering if anyone would be interested in it if i share
its going to be for the not particularly experimental people who need and want a really stable, stock(ish) CM rom
Froyo CM 6.1.3, uber stable
Really clean, no junk apps at all
Several performance tweaks, quadrant ~ 2300
Standard CM kernel (until i build my own)
thoughts please
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I appreciate you've probably put a lot of work into this for your own use, but all your really proposing is CM 6.1.3 with all the crap removed and some tweaks thrown in, I agree with the latter posters that you'd better serve the community by getting your development prowess behind teamdouche in the push towards CM7 stable than releasing this.
already got my GB rom well underway, just finalizing it really (it will be a direct port of CM7 RC2 at the moment)
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already got my GB rom well underway, just finalizing it really (it will be a direct port of CM7 RC2 at the moment)
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Why do another CM7 port, what the DHD needs is a really light aosp rom like adam g's oxygen for the desire
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Why do another CM7 port, what the DHD needs is a really light aosp rom like adam g's oxygen for the desire
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Hmm, he might be lightening, we never know. What we really do need is a CM7 ROM with Lee/Mike/Segio's performance and tweaks included. Now that is a ROM from heaven But Lewarne, your work is much appreciated
i shall say nothing other than let my reputation with HD2 roms speak for itself
i wont release it for a while though
Patience is a virtue I'll look at your HD2 ROMS
i have to say though im not that impressed with CM7+2.3.3
i find it quite unstable (tried lots of the rom ports on here) and a little laggy compared to froyo.
eg, im making the same basic rom (same apps, general system tweaks etc)
CM6+froyo - quadrant of 3300 @ 1.5ghz
CM7+gb - quadrant of [email protected] 1.5ghz
Now i know that quadrant is not a good benchmark, and is highly vulnerable to synthetic changes. However, nearly a thousnd points is a lot of variance, so i ran a linpack run on each, taking an average of 5 runs
CM6+froyo - 49 mflops @ 1.5ghz
CM7+gb - 45 mflops @ 1.5ghz
that is again quite a large disparity! visually, i actually prefer froyo as i find GB a bit too dark, and its certainly mature and stable. Even checked out the battery drain on my froyo rom, getting around 10ma or less on idle consistently, and thats with the standard CM kernel !
i dunno, would you guys at least like to try.look at my froyo build? im much more confident in it than i am GB at the moment.......
If u can get one of the recent battery drain fixes for cyanogenmod in ur Rom I certainly would love to try ur Rom, performance tweaks in combination with battery fixes sounds good to me!
Looking forwArd to seeing ur work in action
i was living quite fine with froyo, before flash cm7, some tweaks are really hard to leave. specially long press in search button to open an app and long press in back button to close an app... and beside it, i'm getting 3~5 mAh of battery draining with mad patch in gb and with stock cm6 kernel it is 12~14...
these are the main 'problem' with cm froyo build for me! =oP
i agree with you that cm7 is really unstable when compared to froyo, cm7 has wi-fi problems, gps problem, rotate problems, radio problem... quite annoiyng to be fixing point by poiint.
if you realese your rom, certainly i'll flash, but i think your knowledge would be more appreciated fixing issues from cm7. =o)
I am sure the inspire 4G community would appreciate it as well .
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i have to say though im not that impressed with CM7+2.3.3
i find it quite unstable (tried lots of the rom ports on here) and a little laggy compared to froyo.
eg, im making the same basic rom (same apps, general system tweaks etc)
CM6+froyo - quadrant of 3300 @ 1.5ghz
CM7+gb - quadrant of [email protected] 1.5ghz
Now i know that quadrant is not a good benchmark, and is highly vulnerable to synthetic changes. However, nearly a thousnd points is a lot of variance, so i ran a linpack run on each, taking an average of 5 runs
CM6+froyo - 49 mflops @ 1.5ghz
CM7+gb - 45 mflops @ 1.5ghz
that is again quite a large disparity! visually, i actually prefer froyo as i find GB a bit too dark, and its certainly mature and stable. Even checked out the battery drain on my froyo rom, getting around 10ma or less on idle consistently, and thats with the standard CM kernel !
i dunno, would you guys at least like to try.look at my froyo build? im much more confident in it than i am GB at the moment.......
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I see where you're coming from, but also remember the drivers for the GPU for gingerbread haven't been released, nor have any of the other drivers I think. Maybe this could affect performance as the old ones are in use?
g.lewarne said:
i have to say though im not that impressed with CM7+2.3.3
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i dunno, would you guys at least like to try.look at my froyo build? im much more confident in it than i am GB at the moment.......
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Hey man! You remember me right!?!? I'm quite happy for you to see you here!
Sorry if this is off-topic! But i'm also thinking of switching to DesireHD from HD2!
I know it's been maybe only 1 week with you, but how do you find it?!
How it is compared to HD2 in terms of build quality?!
To be honest i've been reading a bit in here and i'm not assured about it
It looks DHD have many build issues (without mentioning the expected bad battery issues)!
It looks it have issues with:
-GPS fix!
-camera lens misaligned!
-battery cover and sim cover misplaced or bumping out!
-dust under screen (which means unsealed gaps!)
-died pixels!
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It's really freaking me out! If i haven't touchscreen issues with HD2 i wouldn't sincerely think of switching!
Life Engineer said:
Hey man! You remember me right!?!? I'm quite happy for you to see you here!
Sorry if this is off-topic! But i'm also thinking of switching to DesireHD from HD2!
I know it's been maybe only 1 week with you, but how do you find it?!
How it is compared to HD2 in terms of build quality?!
To be honest i've been reading a bit in here and i'm not assured about it
It looks DHD have many build issues (without mentioning the expected bad battery issues)!
It looks it have issues with:
-GPS fix!
-camera lens misaligned!
-battery cover and sim cover misplaced or bumping out!
-dust under screen (which means unsealed gaps!)
-died pixels!
-...
It's really freaking me out! If i haven't touchscreen issues with HD2 i wouldn't sincerely think of switching!
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Yo just to jump in. I have no problems with any of those, but I haven't really used the GPS and if there is a problem I do what many others do and install the GPS Status Toolbox Build quality for me is perfect and it looks smexy
Any updates mate?
I'm just curious. There are so many great ROMs out there for our nexus ones thanks to the fantastic devs. But my preference is still Enom's. I like stock builds so I've tried cyanogenmods and Geo's stock build as well. Great ROMs both. But at the end of the day my preference is still Enom's due to the ease of setting up a2sd and dalvik cache locations right from inside the modded spare parts, the ease of installing mods like FM radio, T-Mobile WiFi calling, dsp manager, HTC sense camera, audio boost kernel, HTC sense music and games, all right through the spare parts. I know that cyanogenmod can now do all these things (apart from apps2ext) but I like the implementation and ease in enom's. Also the ability to control CPU speeds and whatnot from spare parts as well.
The one thing which I don't understand though is performance. I'm not talking about benchmarks. I'm talking about noticing it in browser scrolling performance. Using dolphin mini in all ROMs. For some reason I find that Enom's ROM takes the cake there even over cyanogenmod. And I don't understand why. I'm using Enom's stock kernel and my CPU settings are very stock (998mhz max, 245mhz min, on demand governor). But scrolling on a webpage for most sites is like iPhone smooth on Enom's and the others is always very slightly stuttery. You have to really look to notice but the difference is there. This is with everything the same on all ROMs, flash on demand, text reflow not enabled.
Anyways just wanted to hear anybody else's opinions.
And Enom if you're listening, we miss you and your great work.
I am also still using the Enomther's rom
I think this is the fastest and the most efficient rom.
do you guys still watch vhs?
ksc6000 said:
I'm just curious. There are so many great ROMs out there for our nexus ones thanks to the fantastic devs. But my preference is still Enom's. I like stock builds so I've tried cyanogenmods and Geo's stock build as well. Great ROMs both. But at the end of the day my preference is still Enom's due to the ease of setting up a2sd and dalvik cache locations right from inside the modded spare parts, the ease of installing mods like dsp manager, HTC sense camera, audio boost kernel, HTC sense music and games, all right through the spare parts. I know that cyanogenmod can now do all these things (apart from apps2ext) but I like the implementation and ease in enom's. Also the ability to control CPU speeds and whatnot from spare parts as well.
The one thing which I don't understand though is performance. I'm not talking about benchmarks. I'm talking about noticing it in browser scrolling performance. Using dolphin mini in all ROMs. For some reason I find that Enom's ROM takes the cake there even over cyanogenmod. And I don't understand why. I'm using Enom's stock kernel and my CPU settings are very stock (998mhz max, 245mhz min, on demand governor). But scrolling on a webpage for most sites is like iPhone smooth on Enom's and the others is always very slightly stuttery. You have to really look to notice but the difference is there. This is with everything the same on all ROMs, flash on demand, text reflow not enabled.
Anyways just wanted to hear anybody else's opinions.
And Enom if you're listening, we miss you and your great work.
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Still on Enom myself. It just works, always. It never acts funky, no spontaneous reboots, no wonk, no chasing the latest nightly hoping some random bug is fixed..
I use CM7 on my tablet, but I need my phone to just work and it does rather well on Enom.
b1337 said:
do you guys still watch vhs?
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Go play in traffic.
ksc6000 said:
I'm just curious. There are so many great ROMs out there for our nexus ones thanks to the fantastic devs. But my preference is still Enom's. I like stock builds so I've tried cyanogenmods and Geo's stock build as well.
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Anyways just wanted to hear anybody else's opinions.
And Enom if you're listening, we miss you and your great work.
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Still on Enom's but I'm looking to switch to the Gingerbread.
I'm waiting for the next stable Cyanogen (without the so called wonk). I think I'll have to do a lot of tweaking to get it to the state I want. Enom's ROM needed very little to give me an aesthetically pleasing style. Cyanogen is pretty chaotic. (I think if it could be changed it was ... whether it needed to be or not!).
I'd like to find another ROM that was like Enom's in that it added sensible, useful enhancements and was still usable as a phone for everyday use... suggestions welcome!
khaytsus said:
Still on Enom myself. It just works, always. It never acts funky, no spontaneous reboots, no wonk, no chasing the latest nightly hoping some random bug is fixed..
I use CM7 on my tablet, but I need my phone to just work and it does rather well on Enom.
Go play in traffic.
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it was joke you douche go play with a horse ****
b1337 said:
do you guys still watch vhs?
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Lol. No seriously though,
Are any of you noticing the performance difference? I mean try loading up androidcentral.com for example. And just scroll up and down. It's buttery smooth on Enom's ROM for me, whereas Geo's, Cyanogenmods, and the MIUIs are almost there, and to the untrained eye they are very smooth, but if you're looking for it, you can see the difference. (Using dolphin mini, no text reflow, plugins on demand).
vk2bea said:
Still on Enom's but I'm looking to switch to the Gingerbread.
I'm waiting for the next stable Cyanogen (without the so called wonk).
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The call wonk has been fixed for a few weeks at least now. The only glaring bug I have using build #87 is the lock screen wake/black screen, but that only takes 5 seconds till it turns right back on after waking it again. I don't know if that has been fixed but I have had no call problems at all.
b1337 said:
it was joke you douche go play with a horse ****
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You're still here? Adults talking, go play outside.
khaytsus said:
You're still here? Adults talking, go play outside.
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You sir are a ****ing idiot, get some more posts them talk **** u ****ing noob
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I mostly used enom till I moved over to the sgs2. That was before the wonk was fixed which I found pretty annoying. If it hadnt been for that I would have stayed on cm as it brought a lot to the table but for me the fundementals are important and one thing about enoms rom was that as already stated "it just works". I miss him and hope he got past the life issues he was facing.
krabman said:
I mostly used enom till I moved over to the sgs2. That was before the wonk was fixed which I found pretty annoying. If it hadnt been for that I would have stayed on cm as it brought a lot to the table but for me the fundementals are important and one thing about enoms rom was that as already stated "it just works". I miss him and hope he got past the life issues he was facing.
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Agreed. 10char