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Whats the fastest ROM currently available?

I'm running fresh 2.0d right now, but it seems to be a bit laggy..which ROM will give me the best performance/stability?
Thanks guys, love these forums

Um....hmm, can't really answer that one. I've tried like all of the roms out there, though I've never really had the same experience twice. I would just nandroid backup and spend time with all of them until you find the one that works best...

nighteyes_wolf said:
Um....hmm, can't really answer that one. I've tried like all of the roms out there, though I've never really had the same experience twice. I would just nandroid backup and spend time with all of them until you find the one that works best...
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+1
reading responses here will only give you a watered down version of the actuals rom thread.

True, but I'm just looking for ROMs that people recommend/use daily that work well. I'm gonna try DamageR right now, I've already tried DamageControl and Flipz, so I'm gonna try some other ones and see how it goes.

mountaindont said:
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reading responses here will only give you a watered down version of the actuals rom thread.
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SEARCH AND READ...that's seems to be the answer to every single post being made today. It's all here in black and white. One search I recommend in all honesty is search the word:
"BENCHMARK" and read the thread started by flipzmode. It's a really good read.

I heard that CakeButt.ClownPenis 1.3 was really fast!!!! Check it out.

kbizzle said:
I heard that CakeButt.ClownPenis 1.3 was really fast!!!! Check it out.
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>.< why.....why??? Brain...toast..fizzle

kbizzle said:
I heard that CakeButt.ClownPenis 1.3 was really fast!!!! Check it out.
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I just spit coke all over the computer at school...thanks Kbizz.

RegawMOD is pretty good and the new FreshToast is also fast once it's setup right... I've tried just about every 2.1 rom available on this site and those are the ones I like the most.

I know it benchmarked the worst but as far as regular use RegawMOD 2.1 is the best and fastest running rom in my experience, that is also on the .29 kernel...

If you search for flipzmode benchmark you will see that all 2.1 rom all run about the same speed.
Other then flip/toast OC rom should run the fastest and its the only rom that will actually show a big difference in benchmarks.
Water it down like all the other "fast" roms and youll have one that is actually fast do to overclocked processor.
Its not made for everyone, and the camera isnt working yet (i have a feeling its not far away).

DanWalker said:
I just spit coke all over the computer at school...thanks Kbizz.
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Hey no problem!! Bout choked myself when I first read it.. My favorite rom name to date!! Wish I could cook.....

This is hardly a scientific analysis, but I have been running DC, flipz, and Regaw's roms interchangably for the past few weeks, and today switched from Sense to the Helix launcher.
The biggest difference in UI performance came from ditching Sense...it was actually a noticeable difference in responsiveness
That being said, I don't think you'll notice a whole lot of difference between the individual ROMs with Sense, so base your choice on what programs/features each ROM has versus which is fastest...in everyday use, you won't be able to tell a difference, IMHO.

So I got DarchVanilla, and I really like it, but the market doesn't have all my apps.. Is there a fix for this yet?? I really like this one, it's very responsive and close to lag free.

nebenezer said:
I know it benchmarked the worst but as far as regular use RegawMOD 2.1 is the best and fastest running rom in my experience, that is also on the .29 kernel...
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+1 The reason I chose RegawMOD is because it was basically a stripped down rom. It allowed me the room to load the programs that I wanted without having to strip useless (for me) programs from the rom. Very nice, stable.

I've found that using Ic3Rom with some apps removed from it, the old OpenGL restored on it, and Launcher2 installed, it's incredibly fast. It looks like AOSP, but has the current stability and function of a HTC ROM. Give it a shot if you haven't

I've used almost all of the roms available out there I thing fresh works better, if u don't want lag you would hve to use aosp
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+1 for RegawMOD being the best of the ones currently available that gives me what I want. I really like fresh 2.0d except that is was really laggy IMO too. I can't handle laggy, and RegawMOD doesn't appear to have any of that lag, and so far everything I need and want works just fine on it, including googlevoice, but I only use googlevoice for my voicemail, no idea about sending and receiving calls with it.

nlinux said:
+1 for RegawMOD being the best of the ones currently available that gives me what I want. I really like fresh 2.0d except that is was really laggy IMO too. I can't handle laggy, and RegawMOD doesn't appear to have any of that lag, and so far everything I need and want works just fine on it, including googlevoice, but I only use googlevoice for my voicemail, no idea about sending and receiving calls with it.
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if i had to cast a vote, it would be a spin off regawmod(its the rom i built my current rom off) who is obviously the most direct desendant of damage control. that being said, i would personally love nothing more than to rock dcv1 all day(by FAR the most stable) ifffff-the trackball led wasnt a complete deal breaker for me.
buuut im giving up all the trackball dreams with the evo. goodbye, trackball...my dearest. trackball...

mountaindont said:
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if i had to cast a vote, it would be a spin off regawmod(its the rom i built my current rom off) who is obviously the most direct desendant of damage control. that being said, i would personally love nothing more than to rock dcv1 all day(by FAR the most stable) ifffff-the trackball led wasnt a complete deal breaker for me.
buuut im giving up all the trackball dreams with the evo. goodbye, trackball...my dearest. trackball...
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LOL i just dont see how you deem a rom unusable because of the track ball....are you a coal miner? are you always in the dark?

Please help me choose a ROM.

Well, it's been 3 weeks since I bricked my phone. Mine was 1 of those that had no recovery mode so I had to send it in to get repaired. As I live abroad, the turn around time was a very LONG 3 weeks. Anyway, browsing the development section I see a lot of the devs have gone into over drive. There are SO MANY Rom's to choose from that frankly, I'm a bit overwhelmed at which to choose.
Bionix Final
Bionix Fusion 1.1
Froyo JPA Macnut
Froyo JPO Axura
AOSPish 1.4
MasterRom Final
Then there are all the kernels as well as the zmod4 mod. I mean wtf! lol!!
I was running Bionix 1.7 with Voodoo and it was unbelievably smooth and fast. Now I just don't even know where to start.
In your opinions , what combo would be the fastest, most stable, smoothest and closest one of all of those to Bionix 1.7 OC w/voodoo?

Wow, this is such a loaded question since the answer is always going to be one of opinion. But, since I have one of those, I'll throw in my $0.02 worth.
My phone was also bricked by the OTA. However, I was able to use ODIN to flash back to stock. Knowing I could do this gave me the confidence to try the Bionix 1.x versions (pre Final). When Fusion came out, I went to it and am very happy that I did. In my opinion, it is what Samsung should have release in the first place. (Samsung should really consider engaging this team - or other developers who are spending a lot of time tweaking the ROMs - as consultants on their future releases). So, to answer your question:
* They (both flavors of Bionix) are very stable
* Doesn't require a lag fix.
So, I'm pretty happy. The main difference (as I understand it) between Bionix Final and Fusion is whether you have all of the Samsung stuff included. Fusion doesn't include Touchwiz. I'm a Launcher Pro person, so Fusion is a better choice for me.
Now, regarding the Froyo builds. Depends on what you want to do with your phone. I view those builds as "bleeding edge." So, I want them to be around a little longer before I go that route. But that's just me.
Good luck.

It all depends on your personal preference.
If you are afraid to brick your new replacement and wait another 3 weeks I'd suggest going with Bionix Final stock kernel option, if you feel adventurous go with Bionix Fusion with non-stock kernel. I would, personally, wait for a stable Froyo ROM, current ROM's lack GPS drivers due to unavailability of the source from Samsung, but as soon as an official leak shows up or OTA roll out, I am pretty sure there will be a stable Froyo builds to choose from.
In my opinion, you cannot go wrong with Fusion JAC kernel, it smooths the phone to a degree I don't even see what stock OTA Froyo could bring to the table except Adobe Flash support. My understanding in the delays associated with Froyo release is the JIT (just in time compiler) hasn't been optimized for Hummingbird CPU, and Samsung is working on the optimization.

I recommend Bionix Fusion 1.1 with Project Core kernal 1Ghz. Its very stable, very fast and smooth and good battery life. There is also a Project Core 1.2 Ghz kernel but that one ran my cpu kinda hot with continuous use and I flashed down to the 1Ghz kernel. Not to mention Team Whiskey has put a lot of effort into making this rom as usable as possible. Far as that goes, every rom development team on here has lol. Thats my recommendation though.

That's not even a reasonable list of options. All froyo ROMS are not stable. And for anyone who thinks these froyo ROMs are sUpEr cOoL aWeSoMe, stable means everything works, and everything does not work currently on any froyo ROMs. So first thing you'd have to decide is if you want a ROM with all the features, personally, I don't get why people settle for Froyo minus the GPS. JIT isn't even functioning, so what are you really getting out of froyo at the time being? Just to say you have it? There really aren't any life changing factors comparing froyo vibrant roms to bionix 1.1.
I myself have a new vibrant, and am running a rooted JI6 OTA, just rooted for adfree and tether mainly, along with the OCLF just for ****s n giggles. The OCLF really only seems to speed up certain small things, like cache cleaning/app uninstalls/etc. Ive ran every 2.1 ROM on a vibrant and there's really no significant changes in speed, same linpack, same quadrant (even though it means nothing). My suggestion is bionix 1.1 if you really wanna try something new, but it won't change your life, just satisfy your need for change.

Bionix Fusion 1.1 w/ project core v1 @ 1.2 if your phone can handle it. I have flashed just about every rom that has been released including the froyo roms and to me, this is by far the best rom / kernel combo.

joe.kerwin said:
That's not even a reasonable list of options. All froyo ROMS are not stable. And for anyone who thinks these froyo ROMs are sUpEr cOoL aWeSoMe, stable means everything works, and everything does not work currently on any froyo ROMs. So first thing you'd have to decide is if you want a ROM with all the features, personally, I don't get why people settle for Froyo minus the GPS. JIT isn't even functioning, so what are you really getting out of froyo at the time being? Just to say you have it? There really aren't any life changing factors comparing froyo vibrant roms to bionix 1.1.
I myself have a new vibrant, and am running a rooted JI6 OTA, just rooted for adfree and tether mainly, along with the OCLF just for ****s n giggles. The OCLF really only seems to speed up certain small things, like cache cleaning/app uninstalls/etc. Ive ran every 2.1 ROM on a vibrant and there's really no significant changes in speed, same linpack, same quadrant (even though it means nothing). My suggestion is bionix 1.1 if you really wanna try something new, but it won't change your life, just satisfy your need for change.
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JIT in the newer Froyo builds is working.. what are you talking about? Everything works with the exception of GPS. The only issue that you may encounter is GPS and battery life complaints (results may vary) and the occasional data drop problem.

joe.kerwin said:
That's not even a reasonable list of options. All froyo ROMS are not stable. And for anyone who thinks these froyo ROMs are sUpEr cOoL aWeSoMe, stable means everything works, and everything does not work currently on any froyo ROMs. So first thing you'd have to decide is if you want a ROM with all the features, personally, I don't get why people settle for Froyo minus the GPS. JIT isn't even functioning, so what are you really getting out of froyo at the time being? Just to say you have it? There really aren't any life changing factors comparing froyo vibrant roms to bionix 1.1.
I myself have a new vibrant, and am running a rooted JI6 OTA, just rooted for adfree and tether mainly, along with the OCLF just for ****s n giggles. The OCLF really only seems to speed up certain small things, like cache cleaning/app uninstalls/etc. Ive ran every 2.1 ROM on a vibrant and there's really no significant changes in speed, same linpack, same quadrant (even though it means nothing). My suggestion is bionix 1.1 if you really wanna try something new, but it won't change your life, just satisfy your need for change.
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Acutally flash one of those ROM's before saying things don't work or they aren't stable..
They are stable, JIT DOES work, etc.

I've had great performance with Bionix Fusion using the Core v1 kernal (over clocked to 1.2). I threw the OCLF on top of it, but everything already ran great without it.
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Master™ said:
Acutally flash one of those ROM's before saying things don't work or they aren't stable..
They are stable, JIT DOES work, etc.
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Things aren't wrong with stable ROMs. It's a port. A port is a port. Fact is when official froyo made for our MODEL of galaxy s, these froyo sources will be dropped. The 2.1 roms for us are built on a stable base built for our phones. They're just facts. Not discrediting any work done. If my friend asked a recommendation, I certainly wouldn't recommend an experimental ROM with dysfunctional features, and that's what this thread is about.
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zephiK said:
JIT in the newer Froyo builds is working.. what are you talking about? Everything works with the exception of GPS. The only issue that you may encounter is GPS and battery life complaints (results may vary) and the occasional data drop problem.
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Not efficiently. And yeah so your advice is a ROM with no GPS and data difficulties on a more than capable device? Dude, what are YOU talking about?
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I've been running bionix fusion with project core v1 @1.2 and it's pretty good, however I had a random reboot so I might go down to the 1ghz, we'll see.

joe.kerwin said:
Things aren't wrong with stable ROMs. It's a port. A port is a port. Fact is when official froyo made for our MODEL of galaxy s, these froyo sources will be dropped. The 2.1 roms for us are built on a stable base built for our phones. They're just facts. Not discrediting any work done. If my friend asked a recommendation, I certainly wouldn't recommend an experimental ROM with dysfunctional features, and that's what this thread is about.
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I have to agree/disagree with you. Even though 2.2 ROMs are ports, they are still very very good. And if you can live w/o the GPS.. Well, go with one of them
If you can't live w/o a GPS, then go with Master Rom or Bionix Fusion

Fusion with the Core kernel is awesome for me. 1.2GHz without increased voltage is nice. This is my first android device and I really like Launcher Pro.
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joe.kerwin said:
That's not even a reasonable list of options. All froyo ROMS are not stable. And for anyone who thinks these froyo ROMs are sUpEr cOoL aWeSoMe, stable means everything works, and everything does not work currently on any froyo ROMs.
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You seem to have a very different definition of the word "stable" compared to most people. IMO, "stable" means not rebooting or force closing randomly. What you describe is "not fully featured."
I myself have a new vibrant, and am running a rooted JI6 OTA, just rooted for adfree and tether mainly, along with the OCLF just for ****s n giggles. The OCLF really only seems to speed up certain small things, like cache cleaning/app uninstalls/etc. Ive ran every 2.1 ROM on a vibrant and there's really no significant changes in speed, same linpack, same quadrant (even though it means nothing).
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Nutty. Fusion 1.1 w/ Core1zMod? Way faster than JI6 stock. Try placing a widget or calling up any app.

Kubernetes said:
You seem to have a very different definition of the word "stable" compared to most people. IMO, "stable" means not rebooting or force closing randomly. What you describe is "not fully featured."
Nutty. Fusion 1.1 w/ Core1zMod? Way faster than JI6 stock. Try placing a widget or calling up any app.
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I've used it, it's pointless to argue. We're talking about milliseconds here. If you reopen and close a random app 10x. Each of our setups would hesitate on a few of them. I'm satisfied with speed on this thing. I'm more focused on new features. And your opinion is wrong, the gps and apparently data is not stable at all or at all times. Gps would be a component of the rom, which in turn makes the rom experimental. Its just made well enough to use daily.
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Gentlemen, thanks for all of the replies. It's very much appreciated.
I am going to switch between a Froyo version and Bionix Fusion. I have absolutely no use for GPS where I'm located, never even used it once. So I'm going to give Froyo a try to see what it's like. Then in all honesty, unless it's unbelievable... I see myself going to Bionix Fusion as it's the most recommended here.
No matter which I eventually end up with, I think I'll be keeping it at 1Ghz. No OC for me until I run some serious tests. My OCing experience with computers tells me that OCing a unit without any additional cooling and having it sealed in a casing that must be close to as warm as hell, is a seriously bad idea. Even without extra juice, I can only see more harm coming from that than any actual real world benefits. But I'll know for sure after I see what the temp variations are like. (Anyone care to share their experience with that?)
Again, thank you all for the suggestions.

Why is there no love for AOSPish 1.4? Lol I really love that rom with JACS oc/uv kernel. Its an awesome rom if u want to go for a more stock android look. Either way u cant really go wrong with any of these roms. Developers are bustin their butts to constantly improve them. I think u should just try a few out and see what works best for u! Good luck
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Hmmmmmmm Roms
Like most of the people who already posted I think people are getting way myopic about what is better yadida..........
My experience has been the one thing that never really gets resolved 100% is the GPS, and that is not that important to me
The Froyo's
The Axura's
The Bionix's
Eugenes Roms
Master's roms
All of the above are fantastic in their own right. The Better question is "what do i really need and want" then look at the roms and "back engineer" you needs and wants to the rom that most matches that criteria. What i see is this over active need to have the fastest most newest rom.... ok.......... so, that is like having a Massaretti in commuter traffic... you cannot utilize the power.... so look to your needs and wants and find a balanced rom thatfits that

oka1 said:
Like most of the people who already posted I think people are getting way myopic about what is better yadida..........
My experience has been the one thing that never really gets resolved 100% is the GPS, and that is not that important to me
The Froyo's
The Axura's
The Bionix's
Eugenes Roms
Master's roms
All of the above are fantastic in their own right. The Better question is "what do i really need and want" then look at the roms and "back engineer" you needs and wants to the rom that most matches that criteria. What i see is this over active need to have the fastest most newest rom.... ok.......... so, that is like having a Massaretti in commuter traffic... you cannot utilize the power.... so look to your needs and wants and find a balanced rom thatfits that
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Very well said and great analogy. Don't forget there are tons of people who want a Ferrari or Lambo just for the wow factor while in traffic. Most custom roms give you that wow compared to stock.

[POLL] Which gsm hero rom is running on your phone?

[POLL] Which gsm hero rom is CURRENTLY running on your phone?
Choose one and we'll see what's going on in the world of our little gsm heros.
I don't see a poll like this for gsm hero - certainly nothing with current roms.

Good idea for a poll! I too would like to know what is happening with our little Hero(s).

thanks
I decided to limit to only one answer, what's running right now, since many of us nandroid and flash regularly we could end up with the 5 or 6 most obvious answers all being voted for by everyone. to me that's just silly.
at least this is scientific: if not absolutely indicative of everyone's favorite rom, at least it's indicative of the current choice.
Could be used for a trend chart if in the future we do the same poll again and compare results.

a.t.m. running:
- 2.3 gingerbread - cronos
Working good, happy Gingerbread user

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a.t.m. running:
- 2.3 gingerbread - cronos
Working good, happy Gingerbread user
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Dito, and voted as such

note: I kept results anonymous (hopefully) so if you wish to keep your status private you can still vote.
happy to see people posting openly though of course

wow hahaha reload first page of gsm hero development forum and every rom thread's most recent post is my link to this poll.
I wanted to be fair so tried to post the link for every rom that is getting current thread discussion.
but no posts there after my posts, even after 15 minutes or so - I suppose everyone's here voting.
pretty much the results I expected aside from the mass of gb users!
surprising about rcmix and tegro - I know of some users of those roms currently.

wow - you VR12 guys - you could consider backing up (using nandroid) and trying out RCmix or tegro. they're both much newer versions of sense roms that are quicker in some ways and also offer newer nicer features (newer widgets and other good things). but good that you're happy with vr12 still
Cheers

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wow - you VR12 guys - you could consider backing up (using nandroid) and trying out RCmix or tegro. they're both much newer versions of sense roms that are quicker in some ways and also offer newer nicer features (newer widgets and other good things). but good that you're happy with vr12 still
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Hey dkelley, long time no speak (again)
Interesting you mentioned VR12... I have been looking into security of the Android platform, and I would strongly recommend people move off Sense-based ROMs, and onto a Froyo custom ROM for now...
I am not at liberty to give details of the exploit (and I don't have full details), given most non-custom ROM devices will sit for the rest of their lives, vulnerable to this, but I understand that the 2.1 ROMs have some pretty serious security holes in the browser system, which appear to be better in the last set of sources I pulled from CM on the froyo tree (for FroydVillain 1.7.x)
So while it's interesting to see people still using VR12, I would suggest everyone on a Sense-based ROM moves to a "proper" 2.2 vanilla ROM. I don't think a Sense UI 2.2 ROM would be safe, so I'd discourage those too. It appears you need something CM based, and pretty recent.
As such, I would urge anyone using older CM-based ROMs (say from before November or October) to upgrade if they are concerned about security while surfing the internet. HTC don't seem to be interested in fixing the vulnerability, but I checked FV 1.7 and it is not vulnerable to this one attack.
If you support the idea of HTC being pressed into updating their phones (remember that EVERY user of the Hero, who isn't on a custom ROM, is vulnerable to any security exploits, which will not be fixed unless they do an update), then check out http://bit.ly/fDGHPV, where I am trying to get some support together before I contact HTC and mobile carriers.
PS Don, I seem to have derailed this a bit... Figured it was perhaps best to post this in here, since there's no point in making a new thread that we want to get many people to do, and you already did the "donkey work" so to speak. If this derails the thread, I'll sweep it out into another thread if you want

pulser_g2 said:
If you support the idea of HTC being pressed into updating their phones (remember that EVERY user of the Hero, who isn't on a custom ROM, is vulnerable to any security exploits, which will not be fixed unless they do an update), then check out http://bit.ly/fDGHPV, where I am trying to get some support together before I contact HTC and mobile carriers.
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Hi....
Do you have any CVE references ?
http://cve.mitre.org/
This is just a blog with without any CVE-refs as I can see.....
http://thomascannon.net/blog/2010/11/android-data-stealing-vulnerability/

Hey Pulser
surprised you didn't send me a warning for spamming the same post linking to this thread in like a dozen gsm hero threads within 5 minutes yesterday LoL
Interesting, and a little scary, what you're saying.
But being the scientific (and slightly cynical) type I tend not to believe anything without either proof or at least further information.
I'll read up on it some - but can you summarize the possible type of damage? such as gathering of private data by parties who know about the exploit? or damage to the phone via intentional cause (again by parties in the know)? or what

dkelley said:
Hey Pulser
surprised you didn't send me a warning for spamming the same post linking to this thread in like a dozen gsm hero threads within 5 minutes yesterday LoL
Interesting, and a little scary, what you're saying.
But being the scientific (and slightly cynical) type I tend not to believe anything without either proof or at least further information.
I'll read up on it some - but can you summarize the possible type of damage? such as gathering of private data by parties who know about the exploit? or damage to the phone via intentional cause (again by parties in the know)? or what
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I went back to Cronosproject 1.7.2 from gb beta 6. Even the massive headway they made thus far has been awesome with Fee and Ele together I can't see how it can be made as good as 1.7.2. Its way behind on performance and hogs memory with the minimum system and regular apps installed. The battery seems awesome but not much in there to use it. I'll wait till full release or stick with this rom. I can have a desire on wife's upgrade but I fancy something more now.desire is very quick.
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I went back to Cronosproject 1.7.2 from gb beta 6. Even the massive headway they made thus far has been awesome with Fee and Ele together I can't see how it can be made as good as 1.7.2. Its way behind on performance and hogs memory with the minimum system and regular apps installed. The battery seems awesome but not much in there to use it. I'll wait till full release or stick with this rom. I can have a desire on wife's upgrade but I fancy something more now.desire is very quick.
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agreed but give it time, and disagreed about "hogs memory": using the available memory like crazy is done to speed up performance, it's not hogging anything in a bad way. when something else requests memory that memory is freed up.
gb's memory manager is years ahead of it's predecessors
but yea, it will take a while.
Note - it's at 0.0.7 now and has everything working except camera which they're working on. performance is always improving, all sensors work now, and it's pretty amazing.

I just need a more stable build for now dude. Grafix and app issues made me revert. I'm sure with input on Cronus now they will make it much better. They need to get used to each others methods of building. I love it on there and not many will give it the dedication that Feeyo puts in. Ele is not dissimilar so expect great things. The futures bright
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I just need a more stable build for now dude. Grafix and app issues made me revert. I'm sure with input on Cronus now they will make it much better. They need to get used to each others methods of building. I love it on there and not many will give it the dedication that Feeyo puts in. Ele is not dissimilar so expect great things. The futures bright
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agreed. was just correcting you about the memory hogging thing since it's a good thing not a bad thing.
edit: well, not agreed about stability LoL. sorry I keep doing that . I'm running it and have for days and it's super stable. gui speed has improved a ton now too. you wouldn't know you were in such a new rom if you tried it on my phone cuz I disabled the animatinos etc very carefully in various settings places and use LP and so on.
BUT for me the fastest rom is still cronos eclair lite - it's gui, with LP, is noticeably faster than with other roms. If only it wasn't 2.1 based (with it's EXCEPTIONALLY slow and crappy applications manager and so on).

dkelley said:
agreed. was just correcting you about the memory hogging thing since it's a good thing not a bad thing.
edit: well, not agreed about stability LoL. sorry I keep doing that . I'm running it and have for days and it's super stable. gui speed has improved a ton now too. you wouldn't know you were in such a new rom if you tried it on my phone cuz I disabled the animatinos etc very carefully in various settings places and use LP and so on.
BUT for me the fastest rom is still cronos eclair lite - it's gui, with LP, is noticeably faster than with other roms. If only it wasn't 2.1 based (with it's EXCEPTIONALLY slow and crappy applications manager and so on).
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I just had fc's with too many things. Neo, quad, then regular apps and no market. With minimal apps it was slowing right down. I figured that no matter how good the memory allocation manager if you don't have the physical memory the manager can't work right. I'll wait. Do you have basics like market working?
I never had any kind of lag with 1.7.2. The GUI is awesome. It benches close to the desire.
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spikey68 said:
I just had fc's with too many things. Neo, quad, then regular apps and no market. With minimal apps it was slowing right down. I figured that no matter how good the memory allocation manager if you don't have the physical memory the manager can't work right. I'll wait. Do you have basics like market working?
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everything's workign perfectly, no FCs, market's been fine for several versions now for most of us. everything except camera apps and certain specific graphics apps work great now.
neocore's broken, doesn't matter of course, same with quad, it's not relevant to anything. They're apps designed for certain operating system versions and hardware and the hero running gb doesn't fit the bill. those are are irrelevant apps that can be dismissed.
I play lots of games and they're working just great. all productivity and utility apps are great.
audio and multimedia stuff are fine too. not really sure where you were getting FCs but it sounds like it needed a new wipe and reflash possibly.
but then there's that strange thing were not every rom works on everyone's hero - I'll never know why, but I swear it's true
apps2sd and so on are working now (with a patch from elelinux). there's something that's slowing down the gui and animations still, and I accidentally had my gb phone running super fast in those areas when my app2sd flash borked. So I know a solution is possible to that last little bit of performance...

dkelley said:
everything's workign perfectly, no FCs, market's been fine for several versions now for most of us. everything except camera apps and certain specific graphics apps work great now.
neocore's broken, doesn't matter of course, same with quad, it's not relevant to anything. They're apps designed for certain operating system versions and hardware and the hero running gb doesn't fit the bill. those are are irrelevant apps that can be dismissed.
I play lots of games and they're working just great. all productivity and utility apps are great.
audio and multimedia stuff are fine too. not really sure where you were getting FCs but it sounds like it needed a new wipe and reflash possibly.
but then there's that strange thing were not every rom works on everyone's hero - I'll never know why, but I swear it's true
apps2sd and so on are working now (with a patch from elelinux). there's something that's slowing down the gui and animations still, and I accidentally had my gb phone running super fast in those areas when my app2sd flash borked. So I know a solution is possible to that last little bit of performance...
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Weird dude. I haven't had time to go through the thread but I will now and go again. I could swear I full factory reset and wiped everything.
I had a long week with kids but thanks, I wondered why it was so bad.... but it wasn't! And no mention of my probs!
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spikey68 said:
Weird dude. I haven't had time to go through the thread but I will now and go again. I could swear I full factory reset and wiped everything.
I had a long week with kids but thanks, I wondered why it was so bad.... but it wasn't! And no mention of my probs!
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haha - well hopefully it'll work better for you now than it did before. you will find slow gui screen animations at times though so it's worth disabling all of that and using launcherpro (if you can find launcherpro anywhere considering fede's rather frustrating emergency issue at the moment).

My launcher pro plus backup will work wont it?
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Stick with stock rom Or CM7

So i was thinking of changin my rom to Cm7 just for android 2.3, is it laggy? dose it drain the battery more ?? Advice please

Im using CM7 and im loving it my battery seems to be better with cm7 running and its not laggy. However i did mess with the cpu settings and my battery died proper quick but now ive restored its all good again. Try it out and see if you like it

IMHO CM7 provides loads of additional features to the Buzz handset. O.k, as a custom rom it has bugs here and there but that's par for the course and most major ones get sorted. CM7 is the way forward ... there are new roms challenging the top spot but aren't quite there yet. You can always backup current rom and restore it if you don't get on with CM7 so no harm in trying it!
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As said above, I would say to give it a try. Take a Nandroid backup beforehand, and, if CM7 doesn't suit you, you can always get back to your backed up Stock ROM.
Its definitely worth switching though. I am extremely pleased with it.

Only bad thing about CM7 is the font size. It is extremely small that it looks pixelated and takes out the wow out of the UI.
HTC sense looks best IMO, only reason I root is to get app2SD. Thats it.
I always use stock ROMs. Sorting out the bugs itself is a big time eater. I hate it.

Wtf is wrong with the font size on CM7? It's the same for me and was the same on stock/wildpuzzle... and bugs? pfft lol, that's why you stick with the stable release.
Anyway it's your choice, if you're happy with sense/stock, stick with stock or wildpuzzle or the DK sense rom, if you don't like it and wanna try something new and has heaps of themes, get CM7.

Besides, Font Size can be increased as per your will in CM7.

stay with the stock rom, is better, CM7 allways have a lot of bugs

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Wtf is wrong with the font size on CM7? It's the same for me and was the same on stock/wildpuzzle...
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Most of the designs on CM7 are made for high resolution phones, Wildfire having a lower resolution doesn't look great. Post screen shots of your app-drawer, desktop so on.
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and bugs? pfft lol, that's why you stick with the stable release.
wanna try something new and has heaps of themes, get CM7.
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Bugs are not enough reason to ditch an OS ?. One bug scares people away. Just one bug.
I am not a developer, just an average user. If you can't satisfy me, then you won't sell anything big. Unfortunately, its so.
I don't get orgasm about any new version of anything. I want things that work seamlessly. Changing versions without solving bugs won't help.

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Most of the designs on CM7 are made for high resolution phones, Wildfire having a lower resolution doesn't look great. Post screen shots of your app-drawer, desktop so on.
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This was true, not any longer, after nhnt11 made the required changes to make CM7 look like it is supposed to on LDPI Devices.
Anyway, its unfortunate that CM didn't suit you, but that is exactly why I think all posts in this thread ask the OP to try out CM, No ROM is perfect, everyone knows this, but, a particular bug for someone may be no big deal to another person. It's all about preference. As for me, even I am an average user, not a dev, and, yes, I am not saying CM is bug free, but, for me, they are no deal breakers.

Who said anything about changing versions? I just said stick to the stable releases, not change whenever a new nightly is released, and if you want the bugs to be resolved, post it to the issue tracker, or tell the devs about the bugs and don't whine about it.
It will get fixed eventually, all you have to do is wait.

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It will get fixed eventually, all you have to do is wait.
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I spend money/time on something not to wait(spend more time) but to use it. You still don't seem to be able to understand the viewpoint of someone else. And haven't posted any screenshots. What else would be a way to compare ?
Stable release ?. The number of stable releases devs make kinda doesn't go with "stable" actually. There hasn't been a developer version of ROM without bugs.
I go for perfection, bugs just puts me off.
A guy asked which he should use Stock or CM7. And we gave our views from experience with both. As 3xeno said, its all about preferences.

Even this stock ROM has bugs, but chances are big that you will find some more on CM7, altough I've never worked on it. But the nice thing about it that on CM bugs will be fixed eventualy, whilest on stock ROM you're left alone with it..
Perhaps a first step is to go away from sense. I liked sense, but installed Homelauncher pro just to try, and I have found out that I liked it even more than sense. I am now in the stage where I gradualy change all the stock things on my ROM (for so far it is possible). So I know now that I ceryainly will change my ROM once I can.
So you really have to try: you don't realize what can get better unless you have seen other options. And if you are hesitating because of the 'big' step of changinf ROM, perhaps try to change some typic stock things. You will see for yourself if you want to go and see more of what other ROMs have to offer you.
Or that is at least my oppinion: as stated, I've always worked and am still working on the stock ROM.
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ROMs... bugs... where to go from here?

Is there any true bugless/very minimally bugged ROM out there? Tried CM6, CM6, Evervolv, and some others. I'm talking something that can be fully fixed if there are bugs in it, or is there a ROM that will basically be a stock evo with the sprint garbage removed from it, i was wondering maybe I could stick a savagedzen kernel on it and get some better speed from it as well with bettery battery life. I know there is a fresh evo but I don't think that this ROM gets rid of the junkware sprint puts on? Since quadrant scores and the like are mostly useless I'm beginning to even wonder, are you "truly" getting any more speed out of a custom ROM over stock without getting bugs?
Right now I'm on CM7, everything is wonderful, of course except for the bugs. The random 3g -> 1x for no reason, making the internet not even usable. The random mini-lockups/terrible lag that I can get, etc are all just too annoying to deal with when they pop up. It's irritating when I go to my friends and say "here check this out, this thing has more battery life and as fast a he-...oh well actually my internet on it is bugging out right now and the lockscreen I have to really quick reboot for etc etc." What's the point of speed if these sort of things happen, you know? All of the flashiness of gingerbread is starting to urk me with all the bugs it brings, I haven't tried a froyo mod except for myns, I don't remember what kind of bugs I had in that, if any. What's the best way to go from here? Maybe give CM6 a try again and put SZen kernel on it?(I only ever tried it with stock) Thanks for any opinions/sorry for the mini text wall.

Newsflash: CM7 is buggy, and has always been buggy, hence the ever updated releases.
If you want a ROM that's as close to 100% stable as you can find, try the bigger Sense ROM's....

Are there any very stable AOSP ROMs? Especially gingerbread? Or do these only truly become stable when the real releases are out for the phones? Because If that's not the case, why not just run stock, you know? What's the real benefit? The only reason I rooted in the very beginning was to get rid of the junk Sprint has attached in the beginning. I don't mind sense. However ever since I've rooted I've been on a speed/battery hunt thinking I could get something majorly different. Is it even worth it? What is CM6 like with savagedzen for instance? Because that's what I'm thinking of trying next. Or are all AOSP going to have pretty hefty bugs with them one way or another due to the nature of them?

So far the new ports of the Shift roms are solid as a rock. Misfits for stock. Kings for some ultra themed ones and Zone23 for blue.
Give them a try you won't regret disappointed.

Try Misfits Speedy Port. Pretty stable with Sense 2.1. I'm making a rom based on that one that is stripped down, but not allowed to post dev forums yet

iwantyourskulls said:
Try Misfits Speedy Port. Pretty stable with Sense 2.1. I'm making a rom based on that one that is stripped down, but not allowed to post dev forums yet
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What are you gaining over a stock evo, though. Compared to this?

Years ago the phones were slow and bloated. You could install custom ROMs and actually notice an increase in speed.
With the phones coming out now they are already fast and if you root to look for a speed increase you might not notice much. You will notice all the bloatware gone though.
For a stable ROM I would look for a 2.2 Calk ROM or ones like that. They may not have been updated in awhile but that's because there isn't much to add or change. Everything works.

What about myns?
A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on Android OS. We now have CyanogenMod.

See I don't understand why the call them "release [clients?]", and then release a "full version", even when the full version is still buggy with devices. I stayed away from CM7 for that exact reason until they finally got the full version up. Once I stuck it on i was enjoying it so much but the bugs are just too annoying to deal with anymore. Can't even show off with it because of them popping up at the dumbest times and then it's like yeah so much for that awesome phone hack. I might go try myn's again or CM6, not sure. I just want the stock apps gone, and I want a stable environment. Speed is nice too. Being unique is nice, when it doesn't have huge drawbacks.

Crossrocker said:
What about myns?
A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on Android OS. We now have CyanogenMod.
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The more and more I think about it I don't remember having too many issues with myn's, so I may try that out again. Not sure. Is there any way to get that gingerbread lock off/on animation? That is something I'm really after, along with the gingerbread keyboard too.

On the sense side, I've found Koni's elite series III to be flawless...I'm currently running ava's ginger sense and haven't had any real issues with it either... can't go wrong with either of those.. just my two cents..
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No smart phone to date is bug free. Cm7 stable is best in my opinion and that 3g/1x bug you speak of isn't a bug but cm7 actually giving you the accurate data speed in the area you are in.

What recovery are u using amon 2.3 wipes fix most issue.when flashing like crazy I haven't had any issues with the roms . Sense or cm7 work fine. Try Elite 3 , Kings out of this world. Um to many to list. Always do a full wipe when flashing new roms.

chandlerw88 said:
No smart phone to date is bug free. Cm7 stable is best in my opinion and that 3g/1x bug you speak of isn't a bug but cm7 actually giving you the accurate data speed in the area you are in.
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I know there isn't a "bug free" ROM or phone. But in terms of crippling bugs, CM7 at the moment for me is horrifying when I'm trying to show it to others especially.
As for the 3g/1x bug it is very real, and it's the worst. I get 1x for no reason inside my house and outside on occasion, it will then switch back to 3g if I restart the phone, or wait [sometimes an absurdly long time] until it fixes itself. I've not had that issue with any other ROMs, stock evo, gingerbread ROMs, or anything of the like. I've reflashed completely fresh with and without the GPS fix, with savagedzen and stock - no difference. Maybe it's just my phone, regardless though, there are so many people asking for help on different areas of CM7 it makes me not want to bother because it is not a truly stable rom for Evo for a lot of people. The battery charger bug I can deal with, mine lags to high hell when it's on the charger - that's something I can fix within an instant and not have it bother me. As for the 3g/1x, the random app mini freezes, the lockscreen not wanting to come on sometimes unless I hold down the button much longer until I restart, and other things of the sort, i cannot. It's not worth the flashy menus, and really the battery life is nothing near a froyo ROM, not even close. (I don't expect it to be).

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What recovery are u using amon 2.3 wipes fix most issue.when flashing like crazy I haven't had any issues with the roms . Sense or cm7 work fine. Try Elite 3 , Kings out of this world. Um to many to list. Always do a full wipe when flashing new roms.
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I use amon 2.3 as well, and I always full wipe after storing a backup on my comp (complete full wipe)

I played with my friend's stock unrooted evo yesterday and no joke, the thing randomly rebooted in my hands while doing nothing special at all.
With that said, any rom here is more stable than stock, but try SavageMod 1.2.1, most stable 2.3.3 I've tried.

I have to endorse Koni's. I ran it for over a month, until I flashed Giger today to pay with 'til Koni releases v.IV
It's not overly themed, perfectly smooth and everything I needed to work did fine, and not one FC the entire time I ran it.
The setup in my sig is how I had it set up. The only difference now, of course, is the ROM

I like sinister for stability, its V4 now and I can't think of a single issue with it.
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c1o5ry1991 said:
The more and more I think about it I don't remember having too many issues with myn's, so I may try that out again. Not sure. Is there any way to get that gingerbread lock off/on animation? That is something I'm really after, along with the gingerbread keyboard too.
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I always like ava's ROMs for fast and stable - Z4 isn't quite their yet, but give Z3 a shot.
No GB on/off animation mod as of yet, but you can add the GB keyboard to any ROM. There a quite a few diff ones from the themes and apps forum.

Gotta jump in here for some input...
If you just strictly want Sense, I was always a Myn Warm Two Point Two guy.
If you can't live without the screen off animation, Deck's Gingerbread is by far the way to go. Yes, it is built from CM7 to an extent but Deck really does a great job taking care of problems. There is a stable 1.0 and beta 1.2(x). Everyone likes CM7 because its popular and known, but honestly after using CM7 for awhile and then jumping to Deck's rom I will never look back.
If you want to remove the bloat from a stock sprint rom don't forget that you can always just do it by removing the apk's from your system with root explorer or through ADB.
How to through ADB:
--adb remount
--adb shell
-- cd /system/app
--ls
-- Once all the apps show up, you just type: rm <insert the apk name here.apk>
--reboot your phone and BAMMMMM!