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Best current 2.1 ROM for G1?

Is there a working 2.1 ROM for the G1 which has Live Wallpapers with minimal battery drain and also something close to running at a fast speed with GPS/camera/maps/streetview etc all working?
At the moment I'm using SuperEclair V8.2 by XxKOLOHExX and it's fine and all, but the system slows down to the point of becoming near unusable when Live Wallpapers are on - not to mention the huge battery drain. Are there any ROMs which have such issues corrected?
Thanks in advance~

I'm using superD 1.6. I would change to 2.1 if there was something as fast as 1.6. I have yet to see an eclair rom to match the speed of donut.

It's been a while since I've used a 2.1 rom, but when I did, I didnt notice any battery loss from the live wallpapers. From what I know, live wallpapers doesn't even run when your phone is off/sleeping. LWP's turn back on when your phone comes back on, so it's not constantly running.
edit: That didnt really answer your question =)

Macmee said:
I'm using superD 1.6. I would change to 2.1 if there was something as fast as 1.6. I have yet to see an eclair rom to match the speed of donut.
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Hmm yeah that's true - I don't mind if it's not as fast as donut, just as long as it's not really really slow. The 2.1 ROM I was using had great features but it was just too laggy for me.
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edit: That didnt really answer your question =)
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Nah but now I know a little more. Thanks!
Any other 2.1 ROM suggestions?

hmmm... i used open eclair for a bit, had NO problems whatsoever... but i didnt use live wallpapers
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open eclair

grlddawkin said:
open eclair
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+1 for Open Eclair. I used it for my everyday rom for months with no problems. Recently switched back to SuperD out of boredom though.

Ohhh, cool. Looks like Open Eclair is the best way to go. Thanks!

latest open eclair or kingklick's ASOP 2.1 v1.9

Cannon 1.2 with 3d patch 2.0 is fully of fc.

SuperEclair v2.4 or v3.0 I suggest v2.4 with Extended Pack.

Kolehe beta 3.0 Rom. I bet theres no Eclair rom faster. flash and see for yourself. But no LWP's though. And you shouldnt be asking for a fast eclair that has minimal battery drain and complain about something slowing down and your using LWP's.

OpenEclair 1.3.0.1 is very feature-complete, stable and the "no 3D" version is fast enough for daily use. The 3D version though is slow. I've missed several phone calls because it takes that long for the phone to wake up and show caller ID.
The OpenEclair devs are promising improvements on that front in the upcoming 2.0 version, so I'd try that out when it becomes available.

Chahk said:
OpenEclair 1.3.0.1 is very feature-complete, stable and the "no 3D" version is fast enough for daily use. The 3D version though is slow. I've missed several phone calls because it takes that long for the phone to wake up and show caller ID.
The OpenEclair devs are promising improvements on that front in the upcoming 2.0 version, so I'd try that out when it becomes available.
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is there anything that does not work yet in OpenEclair, such as video capture, camera, SMS, etc?
I have an original MT3G (using Cyanogen right now) if that makes any difference.

Sorry because of the extremely late reply man :S but...
I think you DEFINITELY have to try this ROM if you wanna know what's speed and reliability. It's based off the official aosp ota for the mt3g (my touch 3g) and tweaked out to run flawlessly on the G1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=811620
I highly recommend it

rafaelrfq said:
Sorry because of the extremely late reply man :S but...
I think you DEFINITELY have to try this ROM if you wanna know what's speed and reliability. It's based off the official aosp ota for the mt3g (my touch 3g) and tweaked out to run flawlessly on the G1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=811620
I highly recommend it
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HI!
Awesome!!! I'm thinking about change phone because it's too laggy but this ROM makes all the diference! Thanks for the suggestion.
Now i only have two questions because i had Cyanogenmod and it has Power Control in the status bar like the samsung galaxy i think and i can also change the number of lines and collumns my desktop has, and chage the weight of the widgets.
Anyone knows what can i do to make that things work in this version?
THANKS!!!

rafaelrfq said:
Sorry because of the extremely late reply man :S but...
I think you DEFINITELY have to try this ROM if you wanna know what's speed and reliability. It's based off the official aosp ota for the mt3g (my touch 3g) and tweaked out to run flawlessly on the G1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=811620
I highly recommend it
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I can't wait for someone to reply to this thread in six months time and be all 'Dude, you gotta check out this honeycomb ROM, it runs amazing on the G1!!' and everyone else will be all 'lulwut?'.

Have had Super-E, but changed to BiffMod.
BiffMod is faster on my G1.
Greetings

Braaaaiiiiiings.... mmmmm... BRAIIIINS!!!

The one I have now is blazing fast, I use from cm4 to cm6 and this thing maybe best so far I have use, no fc and bs since I got it, fancy looks but still maintain good speed. But not sure about juice, my battery is extended one like 3.7 VDC 3000m monster battery so it still last me good 10hr+ even everything is on......
Waiting for good sense mod. ;-)
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Recommended Froyo Rom

I should be getting my SGS tomorrow coming from the nexus one (CM 6.1 RC1) which im giving to my girlfriend to keep around for 2.3. Ive been lurking the forums since Friday trying to decide which Froyo Rom to install and i would like to have some opinions from you guys to help me decide. Basically im looking for an everyday driver for stability so i dont end up throwing my phone out on the highway lol. I know all froyo release for SGS are leaks but from what ive seen on the forums run decent enough to suit my needs. Thanks in advance!!

It's all just a matter of personal taste. They all appear to be good daily drivers at this point. I personally prefer Team Whiskeys work and all the black that comes with it. I also hate the Touch Whiz Launcher so Onyx is the best fit. Very stable, faster than most and has great battery life.

Personally, I have only used Obsidian (V1 and V2) Version one had a few bugs that I didn't want to deal with, so I went back to Fusion 1.2 until V2 came out the next day. I have been running Obsidian V2 for about 1.5 days now and I have had absolutely no problems. I haven't had any FCs or random shutdowns, etc.. It is very snappy and I have been getting very good battery life (I still had 12% battery left last night after about 15 hours, and for much of that time I was using it heavily (texts, calls, graphic intensive games, etc..)) I have seen good reviews for the other Roms as well, however, I can only speak for Obsidian V2 and I would definitely recommend it if you are looking for stability. However, some people have encountered some bugs, so make sure that you read the instructions carefully and you should be fine. You may wait for V3 to come out too, since I am guessing it will be coming out pretty soon.

icandy75 said:
It's all just a matter of personal taste. They all appear to be good daily drivers at this point. I personally prefer Team Whiskeys work and all the black that comes with it. I also hate the Touch Whiz Launcher so Onyx is the best fit. Very stable, faster than most and has great battery life.
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Thanks for the input. From what ive seen of touch whiz, i dont like it either. Ive been leaning more towards team whiskey so i will def have to check out their work for sure.

http://board.teamwhiskey.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=181

gunks said:
http://board.teamwhiskey.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=181
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Ive checked out their forums as well.

Again personal taste. I didn't really like the bionix rom, it felt a little slower to me than Eugene's R10 and his roms are constantly improving. Right now waiting is the best answer as both of them are still making adjustments and should have updates within the next couple days.
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Personal taste +10
That said, I'll put in a plug for Anderdroid's AOSPish Froyo ROM.
With some trepidation I flashed it earlier this week and to say that I am pleasantly surprised would be an understatement. It's a really good ROM. It's fast, it's been very stable for me, and the battery life has been fantastic - by far best battery I've experienced yet on any ROM.
Also, I haven't tried any of the Bionix Froyo builds, but I am coming from the Bionix Final ROM, which was great, but I just got tired of all of the blackness - and the incredibly cheesy boot/shutdown sounds.
Anderdroids Froyo ROM has a stock Android look, which I'm really liking at this point. Very clean, nice looking ROM.
I'd definitely recommend it.

smutek said:
Personal taste +10
That said, I'll put in a plug for Anderdroid's AOSPish Froyo ROM.
With some trepidation I flashed it earlier this week and to say that I am pleasantly surprised would be an understatement. It's a really good ROM. It's fast, it's been very stable for me, and the battery life has been fantastic - by far best battery I've experienced yet on any ROM.
Also, I haven't tried any of the Bionix Froyo builds, but I am coming from the Bionix Final ROM, which was great, but I just got tired of all of the blackness - and the incredibly cheesy boot/shutdown sounds.
Anderdroids Froyo ROM has a stock Android look, which I'm really liking at this point. Very clean, nice looking ROM.
I'd definitely recommend it.
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That rom also peeked my interest as im not interested in samsungs bloatware A.K.A touch wiz. Not fond of boot up or shutdown sounds either but i think im gonna check out Onyx first then get my AOSPish on. Its look pretty clean.

^ you know you can delete the sounds right? The file paths are in the sticky. I agree, first thing I did was delete those.

The one that is least modified gave me the least amount of problems.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833024

Definitely Onyx R2.1 from Team Whiskey.
http://board.teamwhiskey.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=181

frankencat said:
Definitely Onyx R2.1 from Team Whiskey.
http://board.teamwhiskey.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=181
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This is def going to be my first flash when my phone arrives. Im assuming you just flash through recovery without messing with odin. Odin seems like a PITA but, im sure i will get accustom to using it. My phone can not come in any sooner. Im about to join loserville and call off work to play with my phone all day lol. Im sure i would'nt be the only one here who would do such a thing

If you have a new phone you just root it and then go and download ROM Manager for Root Users (Clockwork) and install that. Then flash Clockwork recovery and boot into Clockwork and flash Onyx. Getting the downloads and the files copied over is probably the hardest part of doing it, lol.

what is this onyx that you guys are speaking about? Is it the same as Obsidian?

malevolent000 said:
This is def going to be my first flash when my phone arrives. Im assuming you just flash through recovery without messing with odin. Odin seems like a PITA but, im sure i will get accustom to using it. My phone can not come in any sooner. Im about to join loserville and call off work to play with my phone all day lol. Im sure i would'nt be the only one here who would do such a thing
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Haha don't be afraid of ODIN, its just as easy as CWM. I have had to ODIN 3-4 times already and never 1 hang up.

+1 vouch for AOSP ish rom.

Smithben1983 said:
what is this onyx that you guys are speaking about? Is it the same as Obsidian?
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no it has no touchwiz launcher and its black themed throughout like the old bionix roms.. its like a 2.2/froyo version of fusion

Rodriguez92 said:
no it has no touchwiz launcher and its black themed throughout like the old bionix roms.. its like a 2.2/froyo version of fusion
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where can a guy download that?

I'm running the Odin version till all the bugs are worked out on the current flashable Roms. Still sitting at 30% batter life since 12 am this morning.
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Q: Rooted phone. Now what?

Okay, so I rooted my phone and updated to the latest SprintLovers ROM. It's nice but, I would like a nice non-senseui ROM. Either that, or a FAST senseui ROM. I think it just slows down my phone. I purchased ADW Launcher-EX for my rooted Nook and would like to find a ROM that I could possibly use that on. The best solution would be a ROM that maybe has sense but allows it to be deselected. With most sense based ROMs, sense stays running in the background even if you use something else.
Also, I would like to try overclocking my phone. I see some of the kernels in the wiki but, how so I flash? I currently use AR recovery but, I would prefer to use Clockworks for Rom Manager (since it is required). I purchased the license for Rom Manager but, it just errors.
Also, what are other good tools to use. I purchased SetCPU and ROM Manager. Are there other tools for rooted phones that are as important as those two?
Please forgive the noob style questions. I finally decided to root my phone even though I got it the day they were released. I am trying to get a little more life out of it, while I wait for Sprint to releaser the "next best thing".

IMHO CM7 nighties is by far the best no sense rom
CM6 is a stable release but CM7 (to me) kicks azz --- check it out & enjoy
Tools... everybody has what they like best. I can say as a 2 month (or so) rooted evo owner. Trial and error is the best way to learn. After that, everything you read starts to make sense!
you can always find help in the forums if somthing goes wrong

I personally like the Azreal X 4.0 rom which is a sprint like sense rom. and the SBC kernel. Which allows for over clocking. Look at my signature and search in xda for download.

MIUI is my favorite AOSP ROM. It's got the performance of CM, without the blandness.

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MIUI is my favorite AOSP ROM. It's got the performance of CM, without the blandness.
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I was watching the video on that one. Will it take any kernel or do you have to use the one in the ROM?

klquicksall said:
I personally like the Azreal X 4.0 rom which is a sprint like sense rom. and the SBC kernel. Which allows for over clocking. Look at my signature and search in xda for download.
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I found the kernel but there is a HAVS and non-HAVS version. What is that?
I also found a ROM called Warm TwoPointTwo. Have you tried that one? It looks rather popular.

klquicksall said:
I personally like the Azreal X 4.0 rom which is a sprint like sense rom. and the SBC kernel. Which allows for over clocking. Look at my signature and search in xda for download.
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ibcenu said:
IMHO CM7 nighties is by far the best no sense rom
CM6 is a stable release but CM7 (to me) kicks azz --- check it out & enjoy
Tools... everybody has what they like best. I can say as a 2 month (or so) rooted evo owner. Trial and error is the best way to learn. After that, everything you read starts to make sense!
you can always find help in the forums if somthing goes wrong
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What other tools are there? Is there anything like ROM Manager that doesn't require CW?

LordDavon said:
I was watching the video on that one. Will it take any kernel or do you have to use the one in the ROM?
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It requires AOSP kernels, like any AOSP ROM. The one that it comes with is pretty damn good though, I have found no reason to use any other one. It's stable, I have had ZERO reboots, and fast as hell. 1700+ quadrant scores with no overclocking.

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It requires AOSP kernels, like any AOSP ROM. The one that it comes with is pretty damn good though, I have found no reason to use any other one. It's stable, I have had ZERO reboots, and fast as hell. 1700+ quadrant scores with no overclocking.
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I went to the download like and they said something about the cameras. Are they working in 1.2.4?

I'm on 1.1.28 and my camera works fine. I have never had any camera issues with any of the builds that I've tried. I have an older 003 evo though, I'm not sure about 004s.

I've tried Cm7 and 6 and to me 6 is quicker and more stable. Paired with savaged kernel v5 and you can't go wrong

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I'm on 1.1.28 and my camera works fine. I have never had any camera issues with any of the builds that I've tried. I have an older 003 evo though, I'm not sure about 004s.
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That's okay. I have 002.

_MetalHead_ said:
It requires AOSP kernels, like any AOSP ROM. The one that it comes with is pretty damn good though, I have found no reason to use any other one. It's stable, I have had ZERO reboots, and fast as hell. 1700+ quadrant scores with no overclocking.
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I tried it. My quadrant score was only 1100 with it. I noticed that the kernel was overclocked in it but, setcpu was set to 1Ghz from my titanium backup. Maybe that's why. I didn't like the iPhone look-and-feel of it though. I went to warm twopoint and like it. I may play around with this one for a while.

Still using Enom's The Official. Anyone else?

I'm just curious. There are so many great ROMs out there for our nexus ones thanks to the fantastic devs. But my preference is still Enom's. I like stock builds so I've tried cyanogenmods and Geo's stock build as well. Great ROMs both. But at the end of the day my preference is still Enom's due to the ease of setting up a2sd and dalvik cache locations right from inside the modded spare parts, the ease of installing mods like FM radio, T-Mobile WiFi calling, dsp manager, HTC sense camera, audio boost kernel, HTC sense music and games, all right through the spare parts. I know that cyanogenmod can now do all these things (apart from apps2ext) but I like the implementation and ease in enom's. Also the ability to control CPU speeds and whatnot from spare parts as well.
The one thing which I don't understand though is performance. I'm not talking about benchmarks. I'm talking about noticing it in browser scrolling performance. Using dolphin mini in all ROMs. For some reason I find that Enom's ROM takes the cake there even over cyanogenmod. And I don't understand why. I'm using Enom's stock kernel and my CPU settings are very stock (998mhz max, 245mhz min, on demand governor). But scrolling on a webpage for most sites is like iPhone smooth on Enom's and the others is always very slightly stuttery. You have to really look to notice but the difference is there. This is with everything the same on all ROMs, flash on demand, text reflow not enabled.
Anyways just wanted to hear anybody else's opinions.
And Enom if you're listening, we miss you and your great work.

I am also still using the Enomther's rom
I think this is the fastest and the most efficient rom.

do you guys still watch vhs?

ksc6000 said:
I'm just curious. There are so many great ROMs out there for our nexus ones thanks to the fantastic devs. But my preference is still Enom's. I like stock builds so I've tried cyanogenmods and Geo's stock build as well. Great ROMs both. But at the end of the day my preference is still Enom's due to the ease of setting up a2sd and dalvik cache locations right from inside the modded spare parts, the ease of installing mods like dsp manager, HTC sense camera, audio boost kernel, HTC sense music and games, all right through the spare parts. I know that cyanogenmod can now do all these things (apart from apps2ext) but I like the implementation and ease in enom's. Also the ability to control CPU speeds and whatnot from spare parts as well.
The one thing which I don't understand though is performance. I'm not talking about benchmarks. I'm talking about noticing it in browser scrolling performance. Using dolphin mini in all ROMs. For some reason I find that Enom's ROM takes the cake there even over cyanogenmod. And I don't understand why. I'm using Enom's stock kernel and my CPU settings are very stock (998mhz max, 245mhz min, on demand governor). But scrolling on a webpage for most sites is like iPhone smooth on Enom's and the others is always very slightly stuttery. You have to really look to notice but the difference is there. This is with everything the same on all ROMs, flash on demand, text reflow not enabled.
Anyways just wanted to hear anybody else's opinions.
And Enom if you're listening, we miss you and your great work.
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Still on Enom myself. It just works, always. It never acts funky, no spontaneous reboots, no wonk, no chasing the latest nightly hoping some random bug is fixed..
I use CM7 on my tablet, but I need my phone to just work and it does rather well on Enom.
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do you guys still watch vhs?
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Go play in traffic.

ksc6000 said:
I'm just curious. There are so many great ROMs out there for our nexus ones thanks to the fantastic devs. But my preference is still Enom's. I like stock builds so I've tried cyanogenmods and Geo's stock build as well.
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Anyways just wanted to hear anybody else's opinions.
And Enom if you're listening, we miss you and your great work.
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Still on Enom's but I'm looking to switch to the Gingerbread.
I'm waiting for the next stable Cyanogen (without the so called wonk). I think I'll have to do a lot of tweaking to get it to the state I want. Enom's ROM needed very little to give me an aesthetically pleasing style. Cyanogen is pretty chaotic. (I think if it could be changed it was ... whether it needed to be or not!).
I'd like to find another ROM that was like Enom's in that it added sensible, useful enhancements and was still usable as a phone for everyday use... suggestions welcome!

khaytsus said:
Still on Enom myself. It just works, always. It never acts funky, no spontaneous reboots, no wonk, no chasing the latest nightly hoping some random bug is fixed..
I use CM7 on my tablet, but I need my phone to just work and it does rather well on Enom.
Go play in traffic.
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it was joke you douche go play with a horse ****

b1337 said:
do you guys still watch vhs?
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Lol. No seriously though,
Are any of you noticing the performance difference? I mean try loading up androidcentral.com for example. And just scroll up and down. It's buttery smooth on Enom's ROM for me, whereas Geo's, Cyanogenmods, and the MIUIs are almost there, and to the untrained eye they are very smooth, but if you're looking for it, you can see the difference. (Using dolphin mini, no text reflow, plugins on demand).

vk2bea said:
Still on Enom's but I'm looking to switch to the Gingerbread.
I'm waiting for the next stable Cyanogen (without the so called wonk).
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The call wonk has been fixed for a few weeks at least now. The only glaring bug I have using build #87 is the lock screen wake/black screen, but that only takes 5 seconds till it turns right back on after waking it again. I don't know if that has been fixed but I have had no call problems at all.

b1337 said:
it was joke you douche go play with a horse ****
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You're still here? Adults talking, go play outside.

khaytsus said:
You're still here? Adults talking, go play outside.
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You sir are a ****ing idiot, get some more posts them talk **** u ****ing noob
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I mostly used enom till I moved over to the sgs2. That was before the wonk was fixed which I found pretty annoying. If it hadnt been for that I would have stayed on cm as it brought a lot to the table but for me the fundementals are important and one thing about enoms rom was that as already stated "it just works". I miss him and hope he got past the life issues he was facing.

krabman said:
I mostly used enom till I moved over to the sgs2. That was before the wonk was fixed which I found pretty annoying. If it hadnt been for that I would have stayed on cm as it brought a lot to the table but for me the fundementals are important and one thing about enoms rom was that as already stated "it just works". I miss him and hope he got past the life issues he was facing.
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Agreed. 10char

Sense 3.5/3.0 compared to 2.1

I am currently running NilsP Business Sense 2.1/3.0 and i was wondering what performence hit i'd take if i plunged straight to 3.5? I used early 3.0 ROMS and they were painfully slow.. I was wondering if they were the same now.

My 3.0 rom is fast. Just doesn't sound like there's a whole lot more to a 3.5 than a 3.0 so I couldn't tell you my experiance as far as speed with 3.5.
Nils Business gingersense 3.0 v2.1

Sorry, but ALL Sense 3.x ROMs drag sorry ass on this device. There's no way to get around it. The software is just too muscular for the device. You end up with a crazy amount of vm being used, and since NAND memory is some pretty slow stuff, the lag becomes something best measured in full seconds.

^^ what he said.
and anyone who claims their 3.0/3.5 roms run "super fast" and "lag free" must never have run a stock incredible lol because the stock inc is how this phone is supposed to run (sense 1.0)...sense 3 is waaaaaaay too laggy. the one thing that always pissed me off is the notification dropdown menu lag. sometimes it would take up to 5 seconds for mine to drop down, even when i was just idling doing nothing. very annoying.

The 3.5`s are pretty, but sloooooww comparably. Even with nothing added application wise, and overclocked, they lag. No reflection on the (any) developer, it's literally bunches more software for the device to attempt to utilize, when it's built for less.
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smtom said:
The 3.5`s are pretty, but sloooooww comparably. Even with nothing added application wise, and overclocked, they lag. No reflection on the (any) developer, it's literally bunches more software for the device to attempt to utilize, when it's built for less.
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Well, I will point the finger a little at the devs. As usual, it seems like the push is only for the latest and greatest, neglecting the upkeep of decent older ROMs with older Sense versions. In the past that hasn't been a real problem, but with the advent of Sense 3.0, finding regularly updated 2.1 and older ROMs is hard. At some point they NEED to realize that this device isn't a dInc2, Tbolt, or EVO 3D and cut the crap with Sense 3.x+. Sense 2.1 with some 3.0 elements really is about as far as it should go.

I thought Joel's Sense 3.0 ROM on this was crazy fast. Then I used a 3.0 ROM on my inc2. Big difference. At the stock clock speed my phone still has no lag on my current 3.5 ROM.

loonatik78 said:
Well, I will point the finger a little at the devs. As usual, it seems like the push is only for the latest and greatest, neglecting the upkeep of decent older ROMs with older Sense versions. In the past that hasn't been a real problem, but with the advent of Sense 3.0, finding regularly updated 2.1 and older ROMs is hard. At some point they NEED to realize that this device isn't a dInc2, Tbolt, or EVO 3D and cut the crap with Sense 3.x+. Sense 2.1 with some 3.0 elements really is about as far as it should go.
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Love it!
But what's this about we don't upkeep our older Roms? I try to keep at least my Hybrid Speed update. I've had six Roms publicly ported and released. Hybrid Speed was my second Rom. In fact Hybrid was the most recently updated, even updated after my Desired Inc Rom. People are still using Hybrid Speed and still leave nice comments and send nice PM's about how they like it, so I guess I'm doing something right there. Thanks to everyone who showed support for me and my Roms as well!
I think a major part of rom development is with these updates and everything, we can work on them and fix them up until there almost flawless. Once we have done that, the development for that Rom is pretty much done. Depending on how far the developer wants to take his rom. Well mods and everything else. Most of the time what mods are in my Roms when I release them is actually how I use them and how I have my own set up. I like to leave everything else up to those people who just use the Roms.
One thing I've noticed. All the older Androider's tend to find a Rom/Dev they really like and they stick with it. At this point in the game they KNOW what they want in a Rom and what to expect from Roms currently on the board. All the new guys like to flash everything under the sun. Just proves that just because [insert name here] releases Super Rom V.infinity which just so happens to be blend between iOS, Android, WM, webOS, whatever they call BB os, lol, and then finally BREW mobile doesn't mean its the best choice for everybody. Its just that though, another choice.
Until then everybody should just continue using what they like and keep reporting bugs and always try to leave feedback and comments about what they like/hate about the Roms they use.
Man, I hope nobody thinks I actually have or am trying to make a point here. I'm just thinking out loud as usual.

wildstang83 said:
Love it!
But what's this about we don't upkeep our older Roms? I try to keep at least my Hybrid Speed update. I've had six Roms publicly ported and released. Hybrid Speed was my second Rom. In fact Hybrid was the most recently updated, even updated after my Desired Inc Rom. People are still using Hybrid Speed and still leave nice comments and send nice PM's about how they like it, so I guess I'm doing something right there. Thanks to everyone who showed support for me and my Roms as well!
I think a major part of rom development is with these updates and everything, we can work on them and fix them up until there almost flawless. Once we have done that, the development for that Rom is pretty much done. Depending on how far the developer wants to take his rom. Well mods and everything else. Most of the time what mods are in my Roms when I release them is actually how I use them and how I have my own set up. I like to leave everything else up to those people who just use the Roms.
One thing I've noticed. All the older Androider's tend to find a Rom/Dev they really like and they stick with it. At this point in the game they KNOW what they want in a Rom and what to expect from Roms currently on the board. All the new guys like to flash everything under the sun. Just proves that just because [insert name here] releases Super Rom V.infinity which just so happens to be blend between iOS, Android, WM, webOS, whatever they call BB os, lol, and then finally BREW mobile doesn't mean its the best choice for everybody. Its just that though, another choice.
Until then everybody should just continue using what they like and keep reporting bugs and always try to leave feedback and comments about what they like/hate about the Roms they use.
Man, I hope nobody thinks I actually have or am trying to make a point here. I'm just thinking out loud as usual.
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I'm fairly dev-agnostic when it comes to ROMs these days. I'll check yours out. I seldom see the device for long periods of time but I've been flashing as many as I can looking for a good balance. I appreciate your input.

loonatik78 said:
I'm fairly dev-agnostic when it comes to ROMs these days. I'll check yours out. I seldom see the device for long periods of time but I've been flashing as many as I can looking for a good balance. I appreciate your input.
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Thanks.
Hope my nose doesn't turn to brown here, but I gotta say I always look forward to your comments and incite on things. Its always something good. I'm nervous that your gonna try my Rom even, lol. But for real I hope you like it. And as always, I look forward to your 'real' input on it.

Well, I'm running on a 3.5 Sense Rom from SD card.
There was a huge eating of memory, until I installed AutoKiller which allows you to edit the limits of ram and on an aggressive profile, the Rom is now very well usable.
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Tzatlacael said:
Well, I'm running on a 3.5 Sense Rom from SD card.
There was a huge eating of memory, until I installed AutoKiller which allows you to edit the limits of ram and on an aggressive profile, the Rom is now very well usable.
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Why would you run 3.5 from the SD? That's gotta be really slow. I'd probably run something like OMGB or CM from SD but leave 3.5 on the system.

wildstang83 said:
Why would you run 3.5 from the SD? That's gotta be really slow. I'd probably run something like OMGB or CM from SD but leave 3.5 on the system.
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I run it from the SD because I'm still figuring out how to install on NAND and I'm also unable to sync with my PC :S
So for now I'm at SD and its my daily ROM. Besides the DATA image is 1GB size and with that ran tweak, its very stable.
although I'd prefer it on NAND...
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Tzatlacael said:
I run it from the SD because I'm still figuring out how to install on NAND and I'm also unable to sync with my PC :S
So for now I'm at SD and its my daily ROM. Besides the DATA image is 1GB size and with that ran tweak, its very stable.
although I'd prefer it on NAND...
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Are you using Conap's Boot Manager?

I this k many of the left over issues present in these roms aren't necessarily the dev abandoning it, but rather they can't fix it, either because it would take too much time or they don't know how/can't figure it out. MMS over Wifi is a big one on the 2.1/3.0 hybrids. I've seen many devs try to fix it but they just can't.
Like Stang said, once a rom reaches Nearly Flawless state, which is everything is fixed minus the persistent issues across all similar based roms, its development is completed. These people don't get paid to sit for hours to make every little thing work on our phone.
I think this fact causes frustration among users, that life isn't kittens and rainbows and we can't have the latest and greatest working like a champ on our aging hardware. Its not the devs fault guys.
Choose CM7 or a sense 1.0 rom if you want stability and speed. Anything else will always have little issues that frustrate you.
As for me, I like to use one of these newer roms until I get frustrated by these little issues, then go back to CM7/1.0, then once I'm bored with that I go back to a newer sense rom... Rinse and repeat
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ok, so I'm running a 3.0 sense rom in the Nils rom I have. There is no lag between home sections. (I don't have the 3d tilt accelerometer feature on of course) and as for the pull down, I will agree, sometimes it does lag, but I hardly ever use the pull down anyway, and my case doesn't make it easy to pull down anyway. I usually go through the menu button/notifications to have the pull down come down. Other than that...what lag is this you speak of? I also don't run a live wallpaper very much in order to help out the battery life a little as well. So maybe thats where some lag people are speaking of is being caused?
Maybe its just me, but I'm not experiancing heavy lag with my 3.0 rom and I am even running the latest kernel. I will agree however, if you want the fastest most optimized rom for a dinc, then get a stock rom of course. But the 3.0 rom I'm running is running smooth.

I'm Running Nil's Sense 3.5, and I love it!!
(if you have tried other Roms, make sure you follow his whole wipe guide in his Sense 3.5 post 1)
I love the speed of this rom! If you are happy with 3.0, stick with it, but I love the way the email looks and works in 3.5 (it's a little snappier, and allows for more customization)
While his 3.0 was pretty fast, I find 3.5 to be just that much faster.
Plus, gets even faster if you use Tiny's Kernel!
but when you compare either 3.0 or 3.5 against 1.0... 1.0 just sucks!

wildstang83 said:
[insert name here] released Super Rom V.infinity which just so happens to be blend between iOS, Android, WM, webOS, whatever they call BB os, lol, and then finally BREW mobile.
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I searched everywhere and couldn't find it. Link, please?

PonsAsinorem said:
I searched everywhere and couldn't find it. Link, please?
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Sure its right here, lol--->

I'm using Nils 3.5, and while there is some lag here and there, its a good, stable, and fairly snappy ROM. I also have V6 Supercharger (way aggressive) and the GingerTiny kernel, and that helps.
Maybe I'm just not expecting as much...I knew it would be slower than stock, but I feel its worth it for the enhancements.
But, to each his (or her!) own.
Sent from my Droid Inc - GingerSense style!