Database Users

[Q] Any new build without lock screen of death

Guys, please advise me. Is there any new reliable android build that have no lock screen of death? By lock screen of death i mean that it's unable to unlock device after some sleep because nothing swipes on unlock screen.
It's really pity, i can't find any recent one or any clear explanation why it's happening, instead may be, it has something to do with WIFI reconnect and appears on newer kernels. Since older builds doesn't stuck.
D

david_beholder said:
Guys, please advise me. Is there any new reliable android build that have no lock screen of death? By lock screen of death i mean that it's unable to unlock device after some sleep because nothing swipes on unlock screen.
It's really pity, i can't find any recent one or any clear explanation why it's happening, instead may be, it has something to do with WIFI reconnect and appears on newer kernels. Since older builds doesn't stuck.
D
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have tried all android builds for HD2 and none of them give me SOD. All run pretty smooth without screen freeze. As a matter of fact, I am running only android for my phone now for the past few months.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

david_beholder said:
Guys, please advise me. Is there any new reliable android build that have no lock screen of death? By lock screen of death i mean that it's unable to unlock device after some sleep because nothing swipes on unlock screen.
It's really pity, i can't find any recent one or any clear explanation why it's happening, instead may be, it has something to do with WIFI reconnect and appears on newer kernels. Since older builds doesn't stuck.
D
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
hmmm.. never heard of the lock screen of death.. i know some kernel has some issues waking up the device.. anyway, you can try all the evo based or the desire HD based builds.. i know those builds doesn't suffer from SOD, in case that's actually what's causing your lock screen problem.. mdeejay Froyo HD and mdeejay Evo Sense those two are my daily drivers.. the only thing is you sacrifice the camera on those builds.. on Froyo HD you won't have a camera at all while on Evo Sense, it has a premature flash issue, but they're both stable..

david_beholder said:
Guys, please advise me. Is there any new reliable android build that have no lock screen of death? By lock screen of death i mean that it's unable to unlock device after some sleep because nothing swipes on unlock screen.
It's really pity, i can't find any recent one or any clear explanation why it's happening, instead may be, it has something to do with WIFI reconnect and appears on newer kernels. Since older builds doesn't stuck.
D
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
settings---wireless & Networks-----wifi-settings----windows key------advanced----wifi sleep policy----check "never" then restart and pray

About problem in general, try search for 'lock screen' in any recent build. You'll see tens or hundreds results with similar complains. Like here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=46782526
justwonder said:
settings---wireless & Networks-----wifi-settings----windows key------advanced----wifi sleep policy----check "never" then restart and pray
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks. I tried it before and it doesn't that help if your wifi have to reconnect.
krat0s123 said:
hmmm.. never heard of the lock screen of death.. i know some kernel has some issues waking up the device.. anyway, you can try all the evo based or the desire HD based builds.. i know those builds doesn't suffer from SOD, in case that's actually what's causing your lock screen problem.. mdeejay Froyo HD and mdeejay Evo Sense those two are my daily drivers.. the only thing is you sacrifice the camera on those builds.. on Froyo HD you won't have a camera at all while on Evo Sense, it has a premature flash issue, but they're both stable..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks, will give em a chance, since search doesn't show any comments about lock screen of death (yet? )

Winmo : Latest Energy Rom
Android : Darkstone Desire HD Beta 2.7z
works great no SOD i can use it for Daily OS ( of course without playing games but with FB and Twitter and some net browsing )
from 100 down to 20% battery playing games or browsing net straight maybe 2.5 hours ( just like the 2g iphone batt life when you use it alot)

I recommend the evo build since the kernel source is available and everything works while in the be builds, camera does not work. It won' be fixed until HTC release the kernel source. This is usually few months after the phone release. I am running an evo build , no screen freeze, no data freeze
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

krat0s123 said:
i know those builds doesn't suffer from SOD, in case that's actually what's causing your lock screen problem.. mdeejay Froyo HD and mdeejay Evo Sense those two are my daily drivers.. the only thing is you sacrifice the camera on those builds.. on Froyo HD you won't have a camera at all while on Evo Sense, it has a premature flash issue, but they're both stable..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ginbuntu said:
I recommend the evo build since the kernel source is available and everything works while in the be builds, camera does not work. It won' be fixed until HTC release the kernel source. This is usually few months after the phone release. I am running an evo build , no screen freeze, no data freeze
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks guys, I have to admit that mdeejay Froyo HD doesn't hang, and work really good (altho I don't like sense, there's a way how to change it.)
Thanks for advises

I have had this problem on every build I have tried so far...will give the two builds listed here a try, hopefully one of them will work

All builds with lastest Evo base kernel will work.

justwonder said:
All builds with lastest Evo base kernel will work.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
negative, just tried the latest mdeejay eVo sense build and it happened first time the screen went to sleep.

socrated13 said:
negative, just tried the latest mdeejay eVo sense build and it happened first time the screen went to sleep.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+1
Only Mdeejay FroYo HD works stable and have no lsod/bsod/osod and camera working.

david_beholder said:
+1
Only Mdeejay FroYo HD works stable and have no lsod/bsod/osod and camera working.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
downloading this again(stopped it last night because it was slow-going on the download)
I'm praying this works
[princess leia voice]Mdeejay, you're my only hope[/princess leia voice]

There a bug with the evo kernel. That effects the light sensors. Turn off automatic. Brightness and ur lockscreen of death is gone..
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

froyo HD didn't work...still had a lsod. I'm about to give up on android all together...
I'll give the evo build another try and disable automatic brightness, but I'm not getting my hopes up
@David
What older builds worked for you? I'd consider regressing if it means I can be rid of this problem.

Well that's it guys. Every single build I have tried to use has given me a LSOD. There is absolutely no hope of having a useable android build on my phone.

I've tried this one and have no lsod
Mdeejay_FroYo_HD_v._3.4.1 -- in my earlier post i've stated unclear -- camera is not working
My everyday build is
Xcelsior Android FroYo BASIC V1.00a

Dude, which Radio Do you use? Ive got the 2.12 and everything works fine for me. I Heard about several different things which can cause freezes (g-sensor, light-sensor, underclocked CPU..) I always thought the Winmob-Rom dont play
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

Your sdcard is probably the issue...
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Second frazertag
What SD cards are u running off? I had this issue and solved it by changing my sdcard from sandisk 16gb class 2 to Samsung 4gb class 6. I used exactly the same build files on both cards.
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App

[Discussion] [Video] Clearly about the scroll lag [Fixed in hastarin r7.5!]

We know why the scroll lag is a problem but there is no progress with it for nearly a month so I decided to waste some time capturing the phenomenon on video. Here is a comparison between michyprima's old r0 build (September, 24) and current hastarin's r7.4 (in fact, all both michyprima's and hastarin's kernels after r0 and r4.1 respectively are affected with this problem on my device; bare kernel from netripper.com is affected too, so the reason is there):
michyprima r0: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiPkdV7SLVA
hastarin r7.4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Te8FUNTgxOE
UPD: fixed hastarin r7.5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0w7fHSHWwY
The question is, is it possible to make a kernel with reverted changes to touchscreen driver (or whatever causes the lag)? Is it possible for me to do it myself? I don't know a thing about kernel code but.. I'm really eager to get all the progress gained by devs in last 20 days and I really can't be happy with it because of the horrible screen lag which besides being ugly doesn't allow to use the keyboard smoothly.
Sorry for my English and thanks for your time and efforts. I'll be happy to find a solution.
Thanks to devs again.
UPDATE 1:
Most people confirmed having this issue with hastarin's r4.1 to r7.4 kernels, though there are people who seem to not have it at all. I share memin1857's guess that the reason could be existence of two types of hardware digitizers, one of which shows the lag with latest kernel from git, and the other doesn't.
Thanks to hastarin, this issue is settled for now. And even more, with his r7.5 kernel the lag on my device is even far less than it was in r4.1! I'm very happy now guys Thank you for help! If I have some time in the evening, I'll shoot another video with a demo of r7.5 behavior for comparison.
UPDATE 2:
I've added a video with demonstration of scrolling with hastarin r7.5 on my device.
Scroll lag is eliminated. Now I'm curious if it is possible to increase the polling rate of digitizer (I guess it is around 30 Hz now) to attain smooth scrolling, like on iPhone or Galaxy S. Because with current kernels it doesn't lag anymore, but it is still choppy. What can you say about this, devs?

have you tried michyprima r11? it doesn't suffer the lag you have shown here

r11, is that a nexus kernel? The new kernels fixes Camera flash on EVO builds etc.. but the screen lag is dreadful

shure2 said:
have you tried michyprima r11? it doesn't suffer the lag you have shown here
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, I tried. Actually I used it before sticking with michuprima's r0 on EVO base. And I continue using the r0. But the point is that I miss all the progress coming with newer kernels because of the scroll lag I can't accept.

I've noticed this trend as well!
Scroll lag is becoming a problem for me. It feels like you have to move a heavy rock to start scrolling. It's not easy. It's annoying.
Hastrin's new kernels are good, but suffer from this scroll lag, something so important for everyday use.
Michy's Kernels suffer from blank screen issues where it takes 5 seconds to recover.
It's annoying.
Best kernel I've found was Hastrin 4.1
It's not as powerful, but it certainly most stable.

So you'll be attempting to fix the scroll lag ? I look forward to your developments
Sent from my HTC HD2 Decepticon using XDA App

hazard99 said:
So you'll be attempting to fix the scroll lag ? I look forward to your developments
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No, I'm a looser, not a developer. I'm only gathering the attention to this problem and I will track the development and add new thoughts on the subject.

B.Maximenko said:
No, I'm a looser, not a developer. I'm only gathering the attention to this problem and I will track the development and add new thoughts on the subject.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
im a long time user, and im also interested to see this fixed.

Yea I tried both of them, scroll lag and data drops. Huanyu just cane out with one not too long ago. I'm gonna give that one a try and see if it had it too.

hazard99 said:
So you'll be attempting to fix the scroll lag ? I look forward to your developments
Sent from my HTC HD2 Decepticon using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Some dev keep saying that there is no scroll-lag and is probably SD-card related. Well, there IS actually a problem with the new kernels.

I've watched the videos and I'm not getting that lag with hastarin 7.4 european hd2
There are two types of touchscreen (digitizers) for hd2. Maybe that is the reason. If you try to buy hd2 digitizer from ebay you will see the hardware is different.
http://cgi.ebay.com/LCD-Screen-Digi...Accessories&hash=item1c15714a07#ht_3061wt_905
http://cgi.ebay.com/new-Touch-Scree...Accessories&hash=item335bb268b2#ht_3579wt_905
Maybe the chips/controllers are the same I don't know, but the connector is definitely different. My post is pure guessing.
Winmo has lower lag than both videos.
I try with multitouch visualizer 2 app from market and lag is only with scrolling. Tap (touching the screen) is immediately registered.

i have tmous and i dont have any lags

I am using 7.4 and there is no lag.

I don't see it as a big deal. Maybe the devs don't see it as a big
Sent from my HTC HD2 Decepticon using XDA App

norpan111 said:
Some dev keep saying that there is no scroll-lag and is probably SD-card related. Well, there IS actually a problem with the new kernels.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yea that bs. I have a class 2,4,6 and they all have lag with the new kernels. Old kernels they are fine. I think they need to come up with a new tree to work off of.

could it be caused by this http://gitorious.org/linux-on-wince...mmit/a0fc58df35602d8c76cc4fa586b8b1865da3b92a ?
it's the commit that made ts work on nand
try reverting that commit and compiling the kernel then, maybe it will restore its responsiveness

Rajko, how come they have not figured out the screen wakeup issue?

I can confirm I get the same lag if I go any higher than hastarin 4.1.
edit: eu version.

mattfmartin said:
Yea that bs. I have a class 2,4,6 and they all have lag with the new kernels. Old kernels they are fine. I think they need to come up with a new tree to work off of.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I do agree with your topic, at least with a 75% of your point of view. Last kernels has not made a big difference from previous ones, even we have left older where camera and flash works perfectly with no lags... we need to wait a little more, maybe now with the release from HTC of new kernels, to have a significant improve. For me the best kernels are the ones provided by Darkstone.

lol
+1, i have notice this, a few days ago, in MIUI build, check the kernel.
(BUILD) HtcClay's SuperMIUI v1.0 - STABLE (kernel michyprima #152)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8527718&postcount=135
pack21 said:
I'm trying this one.
why is this build more smooth than other android dedicate builds.....no lag and a very smooth scrooling.
i dont understand.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
so it must be a kernel issue.

[Q] Best Android build like FroyoSense

I verry liked the FroyoSense build from Darkstone en later MCCM. But there was a conflict between MCCM and ???..
But wich Android build is almost the same as the FroyoSense build? And also verry good too use?

I'm finding Evo Carbon Remix V0.5 Features by motoman234 to be very stable and bug-free. I've only had BSOD a couple of times and I'm able to use it on a daily basis. Here's the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=839410

sooo... what's wrong with froyostone 3.2 then? I use it on a daily basis and it's rock solid, great batt life and quite fast too. the only thing I change is kernel, every time hastarin give us something new... everything works.... I don't really get it.

bronx said:
sooo... what's wrong with froyostone 3.2 then? I use it on a daily basis and it's rock solid, great batt life and quite fast too. the only thing I change is kernel, every time hastarin give us something new... everything works.... I don't really get it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I can't speak for anyone else, but the EVO build is the only one I've used so far that doesn't constantly freeze up on me. Granted, I haven't messed around much with changing just the kernel which may have minimized the BSOD problems. I also prefer the very polished look of this build and it's enhanced animations, ect. Just personal preference.

yeah... I was reffering really to op's post. if he liked froyostone, then why fix what's working ok?

Its been awhile since I used froyostone but it was an excellent build as darkstone is awesome. I currently use mdj froyo HD 4.4 for my daily sense build. It can seem laggy but responds well to a 422/1500 setcpu setting. Up to you but can't find a flaw about it. Good luck
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

I found that cedeesmiths Desire Spot build was the logical progression from froyostone.
Everything works, no little annoying bugs. Very good battery life.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

The most stable Android build? Less bugs, not laggy?

Hey all,
i wanted to know which build you prefer and which build the most stable one is. im searching for a version with less bugs. i want a non laggy version. can somebody help?
the ram versions are far away from being stable right?
what about the hd versions? have they much bugs?

I love to know this too. I want stable and not care much of nice animation. i think you will get different answer because i don't think anyone know what the best out there. You will have to try different one to see which one work for you best. Every single one out there will the different issue you might run into? The good thing are alot of developer actively working on these rom for FREE. That really nice of them. I really appreciate all the hard work.

The common response to this question is that it's really about personal preference at this point. There may be some small features not working in each build but I can't say that any of them have any particular major flaws unless it's a "work in progress" build like Gingerbread MyTouch4G or whatever. I recommend bookmarking this http://android.hd2roms.com/ and get a better idea of the different Roms and see which are staying updated or w/e. I like to have 2 types of Roms, a Stock-like or Cyanogen-based and a Sense-themed. Of these types, I have found the following to be particularly good for me:
- Cyanogen-based: HD2ONE (all though he is not developing any longer, this one should be solid for a long time.. my personal favorite) - JDMS (could easily replace HD2ONE for me if JDMS stays in the game and keeps new Cyanogen builds rotating in and doing the testing\tweaking for us)
- Sense-themed: MDJ Froyo HD (I'm most impressed with MDJ's commitment to keeping his roms up to date. Sense based are often bulky so I have to overclock them a tad but MDJ compensates by undervolting nicely)
- Stock-like: Darkstone SuperRam (I may be biased for Darkstone's builds but this one loads super quick) - NexusHD2 (Solid and Slick... nothing wrong with this one)
- Experimental: MDJ Gingerbread (Really looking forward to the last couple things to get ironed out on this build)
So yeah, there are 6 right there that I use. Which one I use the most is kinda hard to say. I currently bounce between HD2ONE and MDJ FroyoHD. I use Excellar boot loader and just customize my Rom names and just reboot in each and play/test them all for speed/stability/functionality at my leisure. I just load up my card like this and figure out what works for me the most:
/HD2ONE
/MDJFroyoHD
/SuperRAM
/JDMS
/NexusHD2
Bottom-Line... all of them are excellent, have fun and try each on. And don't be afraid to try something new. A lot of new guys are trying to get their stuff out there for us and need testers and feedback to help them perfect it. Sorry for being long winded, there really is no simple answer. They are all good!

For me its MDJ Revolution HD v.1.2 with hastarin 8.6 kernel
Its apsolutly fast, stable and good looking. I have tried almoust all versions and this one is definitly winner for me.

I vote for option A - Try them all and see which one you like best.

Mdeejay Sense Clean 2.3 build as posted in Mdeejay thread by Hastarin. It has Hastarin kernel 8.53b included but you can update to 8.6. It's totally stable and I haven't found anything to replace it.
Sent from my HTC HD2 Android

SupeRam by darkstone, top notch
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

HD2ONE is the best for me. Smooth Quick & Stable for everyday use. Also installing Luncher Pro from market place makes it unbelievably smooth.

which rom do you use with hd2one? chucky or ozdroid or energy? i want to have a wm rom that is very lite and starts android automatically

mdjee jay evo sense revolution
pone- htc hd2 leo
android version- 2.2
kernel version- 2.6.32.15r7
build no- mdjee jay evo sense revolution
dis si the best

fast
superrom by darkstone is byfar the best i have used and i have tryed a lot of roms

Evil_enc said:
Hey all,
i wanted to know which build you prefer and which build the most stable one is. im searching for a version with less bugs. i want a non laggy version. can somebody help?
the ram versions are far away from being stable right?
what about the hd versions? have they much bugs?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The Nexus build from TyTung is the most stable and there is nothing "not" working...check it out.

MCCM's builds are perfect. Everything works and they are fast without overclooking. I get 1662 on quadrant with stock CPU settings. with his builds. I'm using his Desire HD build.
Sent from my HTC HD2 Desire HD using XDA App

Also, they are rock solid stable and battery draws 5 - 7 mA in standby.
Sent from my HTC HD2 Desire HD using XDA App

ttibbetts83 said:
superrom by darkstone is byfar the best i have used and i have tryed a lot of roms
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
but it doesnt work for me for calling.no sound when i call soneone.but music plsys fine.

Nexus build by TyTung, it is very smooth & stable, with very low battery consumption

i agree with the nexus one notion. my only problem is that battery when standby averages at 11 mA

Any build can be as good as you want if you know what to do. For me, I simply like sense builds. I have mdj 1.7 as main but I am currently testing moto my touch 4g and dandiest desire z.
Sent from my HD2 Droid using XDA App

dan138zig said:
i agree with the nexus one notion. my only problem is that battery when standby averages at 11 mA
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There are two causes for this, one Tytung address in his post; GPS off.
The other is addressed in my post; it's a light that stays on that's supposed to be used only during call.
Check it out.

deadmansink said:
There are two causes for this, one Tytung address in his post; GPS off.
The other is addressed in my post; it's a light that stays on that's supposed to be used only during call.
Check it out.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
my gps was already off.
sorry but i can't find your post in your signature. do you mind showing it?

[Poll] Fast and Stable - Which Rom do you have to choose?

I'm donating my phone to my mom, so now i'm looking for the most stable/fastest ROM.
There are a lot of ROMs, but i'm particularly interested in android 2.1 - 2.2 - 2.3. Some of them are quite old, but maybe they are quite fast.
So I started this post to discover the best ROM out there. I would appreciate it you could share your opinions.:victory:

I second this, also want to donate it and want to have a good (ideally newish) stable/fast ROM.

Cronmod

blizard80 said:
Cronmod
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I tried it, but I was really surprised by it's speed nor layout. Maybe I just expect too much.
Is Eclair faster as GB in general?

I use CronMod 1.0.7 with Zeam Launcher and it feels good enough for me.

GingerYoshi with Zeam and without apps2sd
or
FroyoDragon

CronMod 1.0.7 NR with the newest kernel and with ADW LAUNCHER ,not too many apps installed and is good. Governor: performance with min 352mhz and max 633mhz at cpu settings.
Sent from my HTC Magic using xda app-developers app

Does your camera works?
Because for me it was always bogus.

george.wgx said:
CronMod 1.0.7 NR with the newest kernel and with ADW LAUNCHER ,not too many apps installed and is good. Governor: performance with min 352mhz and max 633mhz at cpu settings.
Sent from my HTC Magic using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'll try it. But I was looking for some old ROMs that aren't popular anymore, but still are faster.

Try FroyoDragon too

GingerYoshi works good for me

Update: i flashed Cronmod today, and it seems to be faster than GingerYoshi

I'd go with Carz-DietGingerbread, using it on daily basis for a long time and it never disappointed me.
EDIT: Also check out Smart Launcher Pro.

I'm going back to old radio and will check Ginger Yoshi, CM6-minimou and CronMod with farmatito-pershoot kernels.
For 32A new radio, there are only two kernels available right now:
carz - battery drain and DIS in airplane mode
chaos - camera connection bug
and I don't count kernels from CM9 ports, which have more problems.
But it seems from comments, that farmatito-pershoot kernels are very good, but for 32A/B old radio's only.

dk75 said:
I'm going back to old radio and will check Ginger Yoshi, CM6-minimou and CronMod with farmatito-pershoot kernels.
For 32A new radio, there are only two kernels available right now:
carz - battery drain and DIS in airplane mode
chaos - camera connection bug
and I don't count kernels from CM9 ports, which have more problems.
But it seems from comments, that farmatito-pershoot kernels are very good, but for 32A/B old radio's only.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks, i''l wait for you experience. Maybe i should downgrade too.

The op has asked that I reopen this thread after some consideration I have decided to do so.
Carry on
XDA Moderator

E.Cadro said:
The op has asked that I reopen this thread after some consideration I have decided to do so.
Carry on
XDA Moderator
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is how a real moderator should be. Thank you very much! :highfive::victory:
I'm going to flash some roms this week. I will release a last version of CM9 with little fixes and software updates.

PowerPlop said:
This is how a real moderator should be. Thank you very much! :highfive::victory:
I'm going to flash some roms this week. I will release a last version of CM9 with little fixes and software updates.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Your welcome I am going to move this to general however since this is not development related. More of a discussion
XDA Moderator

Do you think some of these are going to be significantly faster than BananaBread on a 32b?
I was given back (like a boomerang!) a 32b Mytouch 3G that I'd given away years ago, as the installed rom went berserk... Installed BananaBread and it is working but boy, is it slow!!
I'm kind of out of touch on the whole 32b scene... surprised I managed to even get the right kernel!
EDIT: Switched over to CronMod... and wow, it's MUCH better over here.