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I don't much care for Sense, as do allot of users, which is I'm sure why there's an increase in CM based android builds.
I haven't tested all of these builds yet, but I'm downloading them now. I know the original ShubCRAFT works great, but hasn't been updated in a while, leading to Warrenb to re-cook it to add the new kernel with Wifi Tethering support, amongst other things.
I've been using for about a week now, the HyperDroid build, which has been amazing, though I've gotten occasional touchscreen freezes, causing reboots. But I can confirm data to work amazingly, in addition to the wifi tethering.
ShubCRAFT 1.5 (RMNET/PPP)
Warrenb's Re-Build of ShubCRAFT 1.5 version 1.2a (RMNET/PPP) - Wifi Tethering
Bansters 1.2a - Wifi tethering
HyperDroid 1.1 - Wifi Tethering
Post your experience with the various non-sense based CM builds, along with any builds I might have missed.
There is allot of general discussion on each individual build, but as each build changes so much from day to day, especially with kernel changes, it's hard to determine which is currently the best and most stable build for HD2. I personally prefer the CM builds as they have the additional settings (long press app number, and mostly the status bar tweaks with the battery/dBm indicator without having to install any additional apps or have them in the background running, taking up bar space with additional batteries).
shubCRAFT is my favorite. I've tried the others, but it feels most like stock CM6 to me and everything just works. I do wish there were other builds based on the nightly CM builds... But oh well!
Dan
For whatever reason I stick with shubcraft. Maybe its a loyalty thing but I feel like Im missing something whenever I am on a different rom. Also aslong as I dont tinker everything works out rather well I actually am starting to feel I have a real android phone and not just a port.
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For whatever reason I stick with shubcraft. Maybe its a loyalty thing but I feel like Im missing something whenever I am on a different rom. Also aslong as I dont tinker everything works out rather well I actually am starting to feel I have a real android phone and not just a port.
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I agree, it feels just like my nexus one.
I just downloaded Bangsters.....
USB Mass Storage/Tethering/Hotspot!!
I'd say it has the most features to date of all the builds.
But I wonder if the USB Mass Storage is working correctly 100%?
I know in other builds it's been disabled because of data corruption....
Did they just turn it back on or was that issue resolved?
Bangsters the best looking but shubcraft has the killer battery life using Energy ROM so far.
REVISION: Hyperdroid is becoming my personal favorite!
I'm using bangsters and gotta say I'm never going back to sense.
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Shubcraft for sure.
I've tried them all, and Shubcraft is the most stable one out there (at least for me!) . Next to that, i took my phone from the charger yesterday morning and i still have 51 percent left (with SetCPU).
That is with internet, messaging, theming and email every now and then
Definitely Shubcraft, many congrats and thanks to its developers.
Htcclays SuperHD2
I like shubCRAFT but then i recently switched to Hyperdroid, and so far? I LOVE IT!
ive tried them all and for me me, its definitely hyperdroid!
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Well as far as builds go htcclays 1.2 is flawless no sod slow wake ups and everything works
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Htcclay all the way... no freezes, great battery life. Its my day to day is now.
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Haven't tried the others, but hyperdroid v1.1 was good (no crashes, and a very few problems) and now the v 1.2 is even better, high frame rate and very fluid (1845 in quadrant)
I voted shubcraft because I've been using it daily since 1.4.
I just last night tried out hyperdroid and bangsters. Both of the used the really high res look which I like. I ended up liking bangsters more because launcherpro and adw were built in. Performance seemed about equal.
Its hard to give a preference if you just try them out like I did. They need long term use for a better evaluation. I wish one build was clearly superior to make this decision easier.
Stuck with bangsters as shubcraft hasn't been updated in a while.
mccm. good loking.
Switched to JDMS since shubcraft & hyperdroid are discontinued, and it's the best I've found thus far.
Been using Bangsters 1.5 and have been happy with it, even have it down to 0-3ma during standby. He's been slow to update lately though, as he had some IRL things goin on.
I was going to try Shubcraft, but then noticed it got discontinued, and didn't notice WarrenB's version, so I'll give that a try instead.
I did have some issues when transfering a large file (+500mb) to the card while the phone was running, and the system just didn't want to work right until I deleted that file, so not sure if the usb mass storage is working 100%. Perhaps there's a file size limit for "working".
HyperDroid is the first ROM that works stable, and I can actually use for more than a few hours.
Thus my vote is for HyperDroid.
So I desperately miss Hyperdroid and Shubcraft for their Sense and Cyanogen builds but I need more stable builds with newer updates on stability, battery drain, wi-fi, LED, GPS, etc. What builds do you find to be the most complete to date and which kernels and tweaks are you all using?
I'm not looking for perfection or a lot of detail, I just don't have a lot of time to test all of the different builds lately with my schedule and was hoping for some suggestions. For now it looks like HD2ONE for Cyanogen based and MDJ for Sense based seem to be the most complete but I keep running into little snags here or there.
Anyone have any recommendations? I know they are all great and I love working with all the different builds. Just wondering what seems to be the magic combination of build + kernel + tweaks (if any) that you have found. I'll figure out the rest.
Thank you for any input you can provide.
So here's what I'm thinking would work for me
Non-Sense
NexusHD2-FRG83D V1.7 PPP with Hastarin 8.5.1
Sense
MDJ Froyo HD 4.3 with included MDJ S7.5HD
Cyanogen Based
HD2ONE 0.3.3 PPP with Hastarin 8.5.1
Guess these 3 seem to be the best for what I'm looking for. I am not sure what the best kernels are for each but I'll keep messing with them. Anyone have any suggestions on what I may experience that I should know about or why I should use the oldcam vs regular, which ones really need to be OC'd or whatever?
Thanks and sorry for being so vague. I wish I had more time to mess with this and I just got spoiled with Hyperdroid and Shubcraft till they fled the scene to go work on improving their minds and making a difference in this world with their talents instead of working on Android builds all day. How selfish! /s
Non Sense: JDMS 1.6
Fastest build i've ever used and stable too, just try not to customize it much. :3
Sense: Mdeejay froyoHD 4.3
Well it's not the best, i'd prefer his revolution build over it cuz it's faster, but since mdeejay hasn't updated that build in a month and seems more focused on his hd build, the froyoHD will get better over time
Cyan: HyperDroid
It's the best cyanogen mod i've ever used, but it hasn't been update in a month so iunno.
Overall i prefer the JDMS 1.6 build best, stable and fast (quadrant score of 2300+ for me without overclocking the cpu). I'm having some problems with music skipping on it and it turning on party shuffling and itself randomly at time, but i suspect it's the winmo rom causing the problems since windows media player pops up randomly too when i use the winmo rom.
Kailkti said:
Non Sense: JDMS 1.6
Fastest build i've ever used and stable too, just try not to customize it much. :3
Sense: Mdeejay froyoHD 4.3
Well it's not the best, i'd prefer his revolution build over it cuz it's faster, but since mdeejay hasn't updated that build in a month and seems more focused on his hd build, the froyoHD will get better over time
Cyan: HyperDroid
It's the best cyanogen mod i've ever used, but it hasn't been update in a month so iunno.
Overall i prefer the JDMS 1.6 build best, stable and fast (quadrant score of 2300+ for me without overclocking the cpu). I'm having some problems with music skipping on it and it turning on party shuffling and itself randomly at time, but i suspect it's the winmo rom causing the problems since windows media player pops up randomly too when i use the winmo rom.
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Thank you for the response. I know this is like saying "what's the best flavor of ice cream out there?" But we watch the Food Network for the same reasons. We sometimes just look for ideas.
So yes, I liked JDMS a lot but I just noticed the nightly builds of HD2ONE and it is rocking so I'm going to stick with that over JDMS or Hyperdroid. I'm pegging 1900s in quadrant and it seems like everything is working. I'll need to spin it for a day to make sure. I like it enough that I'm not going to use NexusHD as my daily any longer but of course I will still mess around with it as it's a very nice build. I would like to find MDJs CM nightly's wherever they are.
So I totally agree with MDJ4.3 for my sense build. I had to install setcpu and rock it all the way up to get the same quadrant scores but it was needed as it was a little laggy otherwise. Everything seems great in there too. I think the bluetooth audio controls aren't working in it if I'm not mistaken but I can deal without that... again, will spin it for a day or two.
So yeah, I hope that helps anyone else. I know the best method is just trying all of them out and seeing what happens. I'm sure there are others that may sway me but everyone here is so awesome that I'm sure it will only get better... as soon as Gingerbread drops, I'll be messing around with new ones again. Love this phone until some true innovative phones drop, I'm wicked happy as always.
Thanks again!
how about between Darkstone/MCCM FroyoSense 3.4 or MDJ Sense 2.4 as sense builds?
personally I havent tried the non sense and cyan.
i also have tried MIUI builds (Iphone interface) which still is in development however very fast and very responsive... just that I didnt want my HD2 to look like an Iphone, which defeats its whole point
Hey all,
i wanted to know which build you prefer and which build the most stable one is. im searching for a version with less bugs. i want a non laggy version. can somebody help?
the ram versions are far away from being stable right?
what about the hd versions? have they much bugs?
I love to know this too. I want stable and not care much of nice animation. i think you will get different answer because i don't think anyone know what the best out there. You will have to try different one to see which one work for you best. Every single one out there will the different issue you might run into? The good thing are alot of developer actively working on these rom for FREE. That really nice of them. I really appreciate all the hard work.
The common response to this question is that it's really about personal preference at this point. There may be some small features not working in each build but I can't say that any of them have any particular major flaws unless it's a "work in progress" build like Gingerbread MyTouch4G or whatever. I recommend bookmarking this http://android.hd2roms.com/ and get a better idea of the different Roms and see which are staying updated or w/e. I like to have 2 types of Roms, a Stock-like or Cyanogen-based and a Sense-themed. Of these types, I have found the following to be particularly good for me:
- Cyanogen-based: HD2ONE (all though he is not developing any longer, this one should be solid for a long time.. my personal favorite) - JDMS (could easily replace HD2ONE for me if JDMS stays in the game and keeps new Cyanogen builds rotating in and doing the testing\tweaking for us)
- Sense-themed: MDJ Froyo HD (I'm most impressed with MDJ's commitment to keeping his roms up to date. Sense based are often bulky so I have to overclock them a tad but MDJ compensates by undervolting nicely)
- Stock-like: Darkstone SuperRam (I may be biased for Darkstone's builds but this one loads super quick) - NexusHD2 (Solid and Slick... nothing wrong with this one)
- Experimental: MDJ Gingerbread (Really looking forward to the last couple things to get ironed out on this build)
So yeah, there are 6 right there that I use. Which one I use the most is kinda hard to say. I currently bounce between HD2ONE and MDJ FroyoHD. I use Excellar boot loader and just customize my Rom names and just reboot in each and play/test them all for speed/stability/functionality at my leisure. I just load up my card like this and figure out what works for me the most:
/HD2ONE
/MDJFroyoHD
/SuperRAM
/JDMS
/NexusHD2
Bottom-Line... all of them are excellent, have fun and try each on. And don't be afraid to try something new. A lot of new guys are trying to get their stuff out there for us and need testers and feedback to help them perfect it. Sorry for being long winded, there really is no simple answer. They are all good!
For me its MDJ Revolution HD v.1.2 with hastarin 8.6 kernel
Its apsolutly fast, stable and good looking. I have tried almoust all versions and this one is definitly winner for me.
I vote for option A - Try them all and see which one you like best.
Mdeejay Sense Clean 2.3 build as posted in Mdeejay thread by Hastarin. It has Hastarin kernel 8.53b included but you can update to 8.6. It's totally stable and I haven't found anything to replace it.
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SupeRam by darkstone, top notch
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HD2ONE is the best for me. Smooth Quick & Stable for everyday use. Also installing Luncher Pro from market place makes it unbelievably smooth.
which rom do you use with hd2one? chucky or ozdroid or energy? i want to have a wm rom that is very lite and starts android automatically
mdjee jay evo sense revolution
pone- htc hd2 leo
android version- 2.2
kernel version- 2.6.32.15r7
build no- mdjee jay evo sense revolution
dis si the best
fast
superrom by darkstone is byfar the best i have used and i have tryed a lot of roms
Evil_enc said:
Hey all,
i wanted to know which build you prefer and which build the most stable one is. im searching for a version with less bugs. i want a non laggy version. can somebody help?
the ram versions are far away from being stable right?
what about the hd versions? have they much bugs?
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The Nexus build from TyTung is the most stable and there is nothing "not" working...check it out.
MCCM's builds are perfect. Everything works and they are fast without overclooking. I get 1662 on quadrant with stock CPU settings. with his builds. I'm using his Desire HD build.
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Also, they are rock solid stable and battery draws 5 - 7 mA in standby.
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superrom by darkstone is byfar the best i have used and i have tryed a lot of roms
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but it doesnt work for me for calling.no sound when i call soneone.but music plsys fine.
Nexus build by TyTung, it is very smooth & stable, with very low battery consumption
i agree with the nexus one notion. my only problem is that battery when standby averages at 11 mA
Any build can be as good as you want if you know what to do. For me, I simply like sense builds. I have mdj 1.7 as main but I am currently testing moto my touch 4g and dandiest desire z.
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i agree with the nexus one notion. my only problem is that battery when standby averages at 11 mA
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There are two causes for this, one Tytung address in his post; GPS off.
The other is addressed in my post; it's a light that stays on that's supposed to be used only during call.
Check it out.
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There are two causes for this, one Tytung address in his post; GPS off.
The other is addressed in my post; it's a light that stays on that's supposed to be used only during call.
Check it out.
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my gps was already off.
sorry but i can't find your post in your signature. do you mind showing it?
hi,
i was wondering, now with all the android roms beeing published to xda
i'd realy like to know which rom is actualy the most recent, or the best, with the least errors and best to work
and another thing,
is it possible to delete windows from my phone and let my phone start directly from android, to avoid the long boot time?
@natihorny - Here's a link to TechBurrow's thread. There is a video/ links for what you need to do to flash your phone with Android and have it boot up directly to it without dealing with WM. I've yet to do this, as I'm still at work, but plan on giving it a try in the coming days.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=894423
I would suggest that you dont use NAND builds yet they are far from perfect but instead you should use this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=847631 it is motomans black and blue build wich is by far the best sense android build even much better than any ram and nand build and as for winmo flash this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893438 and it will boot android just as fast as any nand build and you will never have problems with this setup
this is a very, very subjective thread. there is not "best" rom--it's all about what you're looking for in a rom. for example, vanilla froyo vs. desire vs. desire hd vs. miui vs. gingerbread. or sd vs. sd ram vs. nand.
personally, i'm a proponent of sd ram. i haven't actually used it long term, but it seems to be very fast (and based on darkstone, it's even faster than nand). especially with nand being very young in its development, i would stick to sd for now. plus, it's much easier to flash and fix in case you corrupt your rom somehow. there's a few out there (just look for "[SD] [RAM]" in the descriptions), but one i'd like to point out is darkstone's superram froyo. i'm kinda busy right now, but that's definitely the rom i'm going to be using and modding to my liking.
good luck and have fun flashing!
ok, thanks everyone for the helpfull answers,
i had still one other question and thats,
i just bought a new car with bluetooth function, though my cell phone and the bluetooth of the car don't connect like it should, (thats why i wanted an android with the least amount of problems) and i was wondering if the fact that the bluetooth is only visible 120 seconds may cause the problem.
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I would suggest that you dont use NAND builds yet they are far from perfect but instead you should use this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=847631 it is motomans black and blue build wich is by far the best sense android build even much better than any ram and nand build and as for winmo flash this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893438 and it will boot android just as fast as any nand build and you will never have problems with this setup
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i was wondering, in some of the android roms, you can choose skins from htc sense and have the htc market, and can download more htc backgrounds, sounds, etc. etc.
and now i have the rom you suggested, both for windows as for android which i'd like to use, but doesn't have that htc sense thing buildt in the android rom, how can i get it back?
natihorny said:
i was wondering, in some of the android roms, you can choose skins from htc sense and have the htc market, and can download more htc backgrounds, sounds, etc. etc.
and now i have the rom you suggested, both for windows as for android which i'd like to use, but doesn't have that htc sense thing buildt in the android rom, how can i get it back?
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The build you are speaking of is the desire hd. I didn't suggest that build because it is laggy and slow. Even after 10 restarts and 2 days of use it still laggs alot compared to the one I posted in B4. Take it from someone that has tried every build available the motoman build is BY FAR the BEST after you get over all the HOOPLAH over the new htc sense wich is cool i'll admit but the coolness wears off after about 2 days and your just stuck with a laggy non responsive HD build. now others will post how good thier HD build works after hours of tweeking and reading and tweeking and reading. But trust me you will go back to the motoman build after you try the hd for a few days
@ wrecless
thanks for your view about which rom to choose, i'll do as you say, since you realy know what you're talking about, and i was hoping you tell me whenever a perfect rom from the htc desire is out?
wrecless said:
I would suggest that you dont use NAND builds yet they are far from perfect but instead you should use this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=847631 it is motomans black and blue build wich is by far the best sense android build even much better than any ram and nand build and as for winmo flash this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893438 and it will boot android just as fast as any nand build and you will never have problems with this setup
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Would you say this build is better than darkstone SuperRAM FroYo v1.5 and SuperRAM Sense v0.1?
Jdm ultimate 1.6.2 is best by far nand or sd hands down
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wrecless said:
The build you are speaking of is the desire hd. I didn't suggest that build because it is laggy and slow. Even after 10 restarts and 2 days of use it still laggs alot compared to the one I posted in B4. Take it from someone that has tried every build available the motoman build is BY FAR the BEST after you get over all the HOOPLAH over the new htc sense wich is cool i'll admit but the coolness wears off after about 2 days and your just stuck with a laggy non responsive HD build. now others will post how good thier HD build works after hours of tweeking and reading and tweeking and reading. But trust me you will go back to the motoman build after you try the hd for a few days
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sounds like an interesting helpful post
i will return to deliver the Thanks if I found Motoman's build, superior to the ones I have and resolves the issues I am facing (everyone is different)
xftox said:
Jdm ultimate 1.6.2 is best by far nand or sd hands down
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for non-sense build your rite jdms is by far the best
Essjaythegreat said:
Would you say this build is better than darkstone SuperRAM FroYo v1.5 and SuperRAM Sense v0.1?
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I installed the darkstone build and had problems but I cant remember exactly what they were. In my opinion the motoman build was just as fast and had no problems. I'v been trying everything just because i want something different but I always come back to this build nothing out there seams to work as well as this one and as for the nand builds they are all RMNET. So untill I see a working PPP build I'm going to keep using this SD build
Why hasnt a mod moved or deleted this topic?
wrecless said:
I installed the darkstone build and had problems but I cant remember exactly what they were. In my opinion the motoman build was just as fast and had no problems. I'v been trying everything just because i want something different but I always come back to this build nothing out there seams to work as well as this one and as for the nand builds they are all RMNET. So untill I see a working PPP build I'm going to keep using this SD build
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I had no problems at all with darkstones super ram builds they worked very well for me everything worked fine ppp wifi ect, i noticed darkstone froyo was a bit faster than his sence build but its still very fast
I tryed Motoman's build and found it very nice, but am having problems with wifi and market, I think there may be a fix for these but ive not had time to browse through the forum as of yet.
I really like JNF Android Starter Xtreme you recommended its funky
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Why hasnt a mod moved or deleted this topic?
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Why???????
Essjaythegreat said:
I had no problems at all with darkstones super ram builds they worked very well for me everything worked fine ppp wifi ect, i noticed darkstone froyo was a bit faster than his sence build but its still very fast
I tryed Motoman's build and found it very nice, but am having problems with wifi and market, I think there may be a fix for these but ive not had time to browse through the forum as of yet.
I really like JNF Android Starter Xtreme you recommended its funky
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Not sure one can find a perfect build ( or mate for that matter ), but I do have some info collected that others may find useful in the link below. If anyone can find a build with everything working, please let us know.
http://home.comcast.net/~chn110/AndroidHD2/ScoreCard.htm
TyTungs Nexus NAND build is awesome; check it out:
links are in my thread
deadmansink said:
TyTungs Nexus NAND build is awesome; check it out:
links are in my thread
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yep can confirm that, runs really really smooth, expecially with launcher pro
simax said:
yep can confirm that, runs really really smooth, expecially with launcher pro
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I actually went the ADW Launcher Ex route...bad-ass...
Hi,
i always used Android/Non-Sense/Nand-Builds since it is possible.
Now i just tried WP7. Wow, its fast and reliable. Butit is also boring and very VERY simple. Since i am an android guy who just wanted to know what he is talking about when someone asks for help with WP7, it is time to go back.
Besides the battery-performance is bad under WP7!
So, i was confident with Froyo, but i think Gingerbread is now ready and stable enough (according to some devs)
I dont like MDJs Builds for some reason, so which of these Builds should i go for:
[21 JAN] Pure Gingerbread gpc_hd2_gingerbread_v8
or
[20 JAN] NexusHD2-Gingerbread V2.1 NAND
I cannot see the differences. Which one is faster? Which one more stable?
I could test for myself, but i am interested in your opinions
I've gone for Pure Gingerbread gpc_hd2_gingerbread_v8
(well V7).
Works perfectly for me. Need to keep blutooth off when not using it as it drains batter but other than that perfect.
Slim
I've tried gpc first, but for every rom after v4 it kept hanging at the green htc boot screen. So I've switched to NexusHD2.
In my opinion there is no difference between the two. Both are fast, stable and have good battery drain.
Out of curiosity, is there any Sense version of Gingerbread?
No. 10char
im using sergio76's hyperdroid gingerbread v1, its super quick, very very stable and even with wifi on and using it heavily the battery lasts for 5+ hours (im yet to test without wifi)
COPENHAGENs Gingerbread build is very good. The kinks are still being worked out yet still very functional.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=898831
rockyjegnahazhaz said:
COPENHAGENs Gingerbread build is very good. The kinks are still being worked out yet still very functional.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=898831
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If u are t mobile based in the us check mine out. Its essentially copes set to T-Mobile stuff. He and I will be combining builds at some point for a logical carrier approach
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