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[Q] Need recommendations for Sense and Cyan based builds

So I desperately miss Hyperdroid and Shubcraft for their Sense and Cyanogen builds but I need more stable builds with newer updates on stability, battery drain, wi-fi, LED, GPS, etc. What builds do you find to be the most complete to date and which kernels and tweaks are you all using?
I'm not looking for perfection or a lot of detail, I just don't have a lot of time to test all of the different builds lately with my schedule and was hoping for some suggestions. For now it looks like HD2ONE for Cyanogen based and MDJ for Sense based seem to be the most complete but I keep running into little snags here or there.
Anyone have any recommendations? I know they are all great and I love working with all the different builds. Just wondering what seems to be the magic combination of build + kernel + tweaks (if any) that you have found. I'll figure out the rest.
Thank you for any input you can provide.

So here's what I'm thinking would work for me
Non-Sense
NexusHD2-FRG83D V1.7 PPP with Hastarin 8.5.1
Sense
MDJ Froyo HD 4.3 with included MDJ S7.5HD
Cyanogen Based
HD2ONE 0.3.3 PPP with Hastarin 8.5.1
Guess these 3 seem to be the best for what I'm looking for. I am not sure what the best kernels are for each but I'll keep messing with them. Anyone have any suggestions on what I may experience that I should know about or why I should use the oldcam vs regular, which ones really need to be OC'd or whatever?
Thanks and sorry for being so vague. I wish I had more time to mess with this and I just got spoiled with Hyperdroid and Shubcraft till they fled the scene to go work on improving their minds and making a difference in this world with their talents instead of working on Android builds all day. How selfish! /s

Non Sense: JDMS 1.6
Fastest build i've ever used and stable too, just try not to customize it much. :3
Sense: Mdeejay froyoHD 4.3
Well it's not the best, i'd prefer his revolution build over it cuz it's faster, but since mdeejay hasn't updated that build in a month and seems more focused on his hd build, the froyoHD will get better over time
Cyan: HyperDroid
It's the best cyanogen mod i've ever used, but it hasn't been update in a month so iunno.
Overall i prefer the JDMS 1.6 build best, stable and fast (quadrant score of 2300+ for me without overclocking the cpu). I'm having some problems with music skipping on it and it turning on party shuffling and itself randomly at time, but i suspect it's the winmo rom causing the problems since windows media player pops up randomly too when i use the winmo rom.

Kailkti said:
Non Sense: JDMS 1.6
Fastest build i've ever used and stable too, just try not to customize it much. :3
Sense: Mdeejay froyoHD 4.3
Well it's not the best, i'd prefer his revolution build over it cuz it's faster, but since mdeejay hasn't updated that build in a month and seems more focused on his hd build, the froyoHD will get better over time
Cyan: HyperDroid
It's the best cyanogen mod i've ever used, but it hasn't been update in a month so iunno.
Overall i prefer the JDMS 1.6 build best, stable and fast (quadrant score of 2300+ for me without overclocking the cpu). I'm having some problems with music skipping on it and it turning on party shuffling and itself randomly at time, but i suspect it's the winmo rom causing the problems since windows media player pops up randomly too when i use the winmo rom.
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Thank you for the response. I know this is like saying "what's the best flavor of ice cream out there?" But we watch the Food Network for the same reasons. We sometimes just look for ideas.
So yes, I liked JDMS a lot but I just noticed the nightly builds of HD2ONE and it is rocking so I'm going to stick with that over JDMS or Hyperdroid. I'm pegging 1900s in quadrant and it seems like everything is working. I'll need to spin it for a day to make sure. I like it enough that I'm not going to use NexusHD as my daily any longer but of course I will still mess around with it as it's a very nice build. I would like to find MDJs CM nightly's wherever they are.
So I totally agree with MDJ4.3 for my sense build. I had to install setcpu and rock it all the way up to get the same quadrant scores but it was needed as it was a little laggy otherwise. Everything seems great in there too. I think the bluetooth audio controls aren't working in it if I'm not mistaken but I can deal without that... again, will spin it for a day or two.
So yeah, I hope that helps anyone else. I know the best method is just trying all of them out and seeing what happens. I'm sure there are others that may sway me but everyone here is so awesome that I'm sure it will only get better... as soon as Gingerbread drops, I'll be messing around with new ones again. Love this phone until some true innovative phones drop, I'm wicked happy as always.
Thanks again!

how about between Darkstone/MCCM FroyoSense 3.4 or MDJ Sense 2.4 as sense builds?
personally I havent tried the non sense and cyan.
i also have tried MIUI builds (Iphone interface) which still is in development however very fast and very responsive... just that I didnt want my HD2 to look like an Iphone, which defeats its whole point

[Q] Best Android build like FroyoSense

I verry liked the FroyoSense build from Darkstone en later MCCM. But there was a conflict between MCCM and ???..
But wich Android build is almost the same as the FroyoSense build? And also verry good too use?

I'm finding Evo Carbon Remix V0.5 Features by motoman234 to be very stable and bug-free. I've only had BSOD a couple of times and I'm able to use it on a daily basis. Here's the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=839410

sooo... what's wrong with froyostone 3.2 then? I use it on a daily basis and it's rock solid, great batt life and quite fast too. the only thing I change is kernel, every time hastarin give us something new... everything works.... I don't really get it.

bronx said:
sooo... what's wrong with froyostone 3.2 then? I use it on a daily basis and it's rock solid, great batt life and quite fast too. the only thing I change is kernel, every time hastarin give us something new... everything works.... I don't really get it.
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I can't speak for anyone else, but the EVO build is the only one I've used so far that doesn't constantly freeze up on me. Granted, I haven't messed around much with changing just the kernel which may have minimized the BSOD problems. I also prefer the very polished look of this build and it's enhanced animations, ect. Just personal preference.

yeah... I was reffering really to op's post. if he liked froyostone, then why fix what's working ok?

Its been awhile since I used froyostone but it was an excellent build as darkstone is awesome. I currently use mdj froyo HD 4.4 for my daily sense build. It can seem laggy but responds well to a 422/1500 setcpu setting. Up to you but can't find a flaw about it. Good luck
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I found that cedeesmiths Desire Spot build was the logical progression from froyostone.
Everything works, no little annoying bugs. Very good battery life.
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The most stable Android build? Less bugs, not laggy?

Hey all,
i wanted to know which build you prefer and which build the most stable one is. im searching for a version with less bugs. i want a non laggy version. can somebody help?
the ram versions are far away from being stable right?
what about the hd versions? have they much bugs?

I love to know this too. I want stable and not care much of nice animation. i think you will get different answer because i don't think anyone know what the best out there. You will have to try different one to see which one work for you best. Every single one out there will the different issue you might run into? The good thing are alot of developer actively working on these rom for FREE. That really nice of them. I really appreciate all the hard work.

The common response to this question is that it's really about personal preference at this point. There may be some small features not working in each build but I can't say that any of them have any particular major flaws unless it's a "work in progress" build like Gingerbread MyTouch4G or whatever. I recommend bookmarking this http://android.hd2roms.com/ and get a better idea of the different Roms and see which are staying updated or w/e. I like to have 2 types of Roms, a Stock-like or Cyanogen-based and a Sense-themed. Of these types, I have found the following to be particularly good for me:
- Cyanogen-based: HD2ONE (all though he is not developing any longer, this one should be solid for a long time.. my personal favorite) - JDMS (could easily replace HD2ONE for me if JDMS stays in the game and keeps new Cyanogen builds rotating in and doing the testing\tweaking for us)
- Sense-themed: MDJ Froyo HD (I'm most impressed with MDJ's commitment to keeping his roms up to date. Sense based are often bulky so I have to overclock them a tad but MDJ compensates by undervolting nicely)
- Stock-like: Darkstone SuperRam (I may be biased for Darkstone's builds but this one loads super quick) - NexusHD2 (Solid and Slick... nothing wrong with this one)
- Experimental: MDJ Gingerbread (Really looking forward to the last couple things to get ironed out on this build)
So yeah, there are 6 right there that I use. Which one I use the most is kinda hard to say. I currently bounce between HD2ONE and MDJ FroyoHD. I use Excellar boot loader and just customize my Rom names and just reboot in each and play/test them all for speed/stability/functionality at my leisure. I just load up my card like this and figure out what works for me the most:
/HD2ONE
/MDJFroyoHD
/SuperRAM
/JDMS
/NexusHD2
Bottom-Line... all of them are excellent, have fun and try each on. And don't be afraid to try something new. A lot of new guys are trying to get their stuff out there for us and need testers and feedback to help them perfect it. Sorry for being long winded, there really is no simple answer. They are all good!

For me its MDJ Revolution HD v.1.2 with hastarin 8.6 kernel
Its apsolutly fast, stable and good looking. I have tried almoust all versions and this one is definitly winner for me.

I vote for option A - Try them all and see which one you like best.

Mdeejay Sense Clean 2.3 build as posted in Mdeejay thread by Hastarin. It has Hastarin kernel 8.53b included but you can update to 8.6. It's totally stable and I haven't found anything to replace it.
Sent from my HTC HD2 Android

SupeRam by darkstone, top notch
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HD2ONE is the best for me. Smooth Quick & Stable for everyday use. Also installing Luncher Pro from market place makes it unbelievably smooth.

which rom do you use with hd2one? chucky or ozdroid or energy? i want to have a wm rom that is very lite and starts android automatically

mdjee jay evo sense revolution
pone- htc hd2 leo
android version- 2.2
kernel version- 2.6.32.15r7
build no- mdjee jay evo sense revolution
dis si the best

fast
superrom by darkstone is byfar the best i have used and i have tryed a lot of roms

Evil_enc said:
Hey all,
i wanted to know which build you prefer and which build the most stable one is. im searching for a version with less bugs. i want a non laggy version. can somebody help?
the ram versions are far away from being stable right?
what about the hd versions? have they much bugs?
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The Nexus build from TyTung is the most stable and there is nothing "not" working...check it out.

MCCM's builds are perfect. Everything works and they are fast without overclooking. I get 1662 on quadrant with stock CPU settings. with his builds. I'm using his Desire HD build.
Sent from my HTC HD2 Desire HD using XDA App

Also, they are rock solid stable and battery draws 5 - 7 mA in standby.
Sent from my HTC HD2 Desire HD using XDA App

ttibbetts83 said:
superrom by darkstone is byfar the best i have used and i have tryed a lot of roms
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but it doesnt work for me for calling.no sound when i call soneone.but music plsys fine.

Nexus build by TyTung, it is very smooth & stable, with very low battery consumption

i agree with the nexus one notion. my only problem is that battery when standby averages at 11 mA

Any build can be as good as you want if you know what to do. For me, I simply like sense builds. I have mdj 1.7 as main but I am currently testing moto my touch 4g and dandiest desire z.
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dan138zig said:
i agree with the nexus one notion. my only problem is that battery when standby averages at 11 mA
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There are two causes for this, one Tytung address in his post; GPS off.
The other is addressed in my post; it's a light that stays on that's supposed to be used only during call.
Check it out.

deadmansink said:
There are two causes for this, one Tytung address in his post; GPS off.
The other is addressed in my post; it's a light that stays on that's supposed to be used only during call.
Check it out.
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my gps was already off.
sorry but i can't find your post in your signature. do you mind showing it?

BEST COMBINATION-Effective perfomance

Hi Guys
I would like to inform you guys I have found best perfomace build+kernal
I have tried various builds with various kernals for last couple of weeks.either I had battery drainage or stoppage or data corruption or laggy problems
Finally best one I tried is
MDJ_FroYo_HD_v._4.6_MDJ_S78.0 with update.kernel.hastarin.16.12.2010.Works perfect. battery usage is great to be honest with you better than window ROM and less laggy. no corrupted data or sudden stoppages.
Try guys.I bet this will be the best combination built I have ever tried.
Thanx Mdeejay and hasterin
what about RAM based built mdjay....?

And what's up with radio, sd-card, wm rom and such stuff?
Pretty subjective post and not really helpfull.

My radio 2.15
windows version 3.14
latest window version from HTC
first downloaded mdeejays and then extracted
then downloaded latest kernal from hasterin then copied into andriod .
thats it.best performance

imho its a useless post.
Best performance is very subjective
Besides , speaking of performance , ram version roms are on top , and thats not subjective

Spb TV does not work though. Have you tried it?
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App

what is the battery drain is standby with current widget? cheers

I am heavy user with lots of wiget running plus data is always on .Having fully charged in the morning,it lasted all day without single charge.But other builds lasted only couple of hours.forget about SPB TV. you will always find some app will not work on any builts even in native android.but What i am saying is about good perfomance. try it feel it.just small piece of advice try before say something.

rasih5503 said:
I am heavy user with lots of wiget running plus data is always on .Having fully charged in the morning,it lasted all day without single charge.But other builds lasted only couple of hours.forget about SPB TV. you will always find some app will not work on any builts even in native android.but What i am saying is about good perfomance. try it feel it.just small piece of advice try before say something.
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how long did you try the build until you reached your conclusion. 30min? 1hr? day? all builds work different for some people than others depending on winrom, radio, kernel, sdcard, apps installed, etc...

So what is it? whats the best build combo?Cause it seems to me that nothing is complete? Don't get me wrong their are some talented people here doing putting some incredible builds together and Ive tested a lot of them, but still cant seem to find that one build that could be used for long term daily use.Has any one else?
Ive searched a lot of threads and tried a lot of suggestion and not any real luck
what im using now seems to be pretty good but at times i have location and data drops and no mms.

I am using mccm 3.4 for weeks now without any problem. Other builds would crap out on me after few days of use. Just saying.
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I have CR192 DESIRE HD as winmo rom, radio 2.15.50 and I'm running motoman evo carbon remix .06 and I have a great performing setup, I usually unplug my phone around 3am to go to work and by the time I go to bed around 8pm I usually still have around 15% on moderate use. I've been using this setup with a couple of different motoman builds as a daily driver for 5 weeks without using winmo at all. Honestly is all on phone to phone basis. No matter how much you try the same setup might not work the same for two different phones. The hardware is not 100% identical on every phone, that's why it never behaves the same, that's why there's always people saying they're having an issue while others aren't.
So pretty much I'm saying that while you think your setup is the best, others might not have the same result as you.

what a horrible thread, lol
anyways, i dont have the crazy amount of times to test multiple builds and you probably got your findings wrong
i am using MDJ 4.6 Desire HD and its good, but not great
it has its flaws and issues
today I just got a corrupted SD card with many files with weird names in them
i have tested the Darkstone RAM build, didnt like anything without Sense
i have tested MIUI , its blazing fast but the fact that it looks like iphone, bleh
your statements are subjective and totally unmeasurable

Why is this in the dev section?
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Well the intention behind the thread is alright..Anyways, I am testing Gingerbread RAM V1.0 by MDJ and am getting less than 1% battery drain/hour which is the best I have experienced in 3months of trying various builds and it's rooted so SetCPU works. However, lots of other apps including Facebook are not working..I guess in time MDJ will show the way..

And I have 2.15 Radio, HTC latest ROM and HSPL

Mccm3.4 and mdj4.6 with non-newest-hastarin kernels are two build I will vouch for as daily drivers.
But no build is as reliable as a build with a .zip backup of itself on internal memory for speedy unzipping to sdcard.
I am running darkstones superram 1.5 now and loving it, and am looking forward to mdj's ram gingerbread rc5 when it comes out tonight or tomorrow.
On all these builds I named I see '6-9ma' standby battery drain a lot, 19ma sometimes.

i am using Motoman234_Desire_PCB_Sense_V1.0 work perfect all software work and installed fast and stable good back up

Anougher opinionated thread,this might work for you but might not be so good for someone else,its mostly down to personal preffrence but if you want a good Desire HD build then yeah its a good combo

Fishing for the best build
to begin with i have used radio 2.15.50 with wwe 3.14 original rom htc update,battery drainage was too high on windows and also android build,80% was the ram usage.so i have downgraded to wwe 1.66 and only upgraded the radio 2.15.50.i have been using MDJ REVOLUTION HD WITH HASTARIN 8.5.3 and its brilliant for daily usage.with moderate use, battery life is excellent.to me this is the best combination.i have also tried all other builds but i remained with this one.because its brilliant with animations and the lot.
one of our member has started this thread just to find out what he can use for his phone without trying other builds,because its easier for him to find out this way rather than doing himself.its not that he managed to find the best combination,HIS FISHING FOR THE BEST COMBINATION FROM THE OTHER MEMBERS.he will probably say he has tried all the other builds)

Not too be pee'ing you guys against the leggs.. but i'm using the same config now. for about 5 days and omfg.. this one really works! battery stands for a whole day while data always on. ( with gps always on about 14 hours before its drained )
no dropouts, no bull**** with ppp. no legs en a pretty good bench points.

[Q] Where is Pongster?

Haven't seen anything new since Hyperdroid CM7 2.1.0, which was released going on 2 months ago now, and GBX V12 before that. Just wondering if he's moved on to something else, and if we should be expecting anything new anytime soon. I don't want to give up on Hyperdroid, but if Pongster's gone, I guess it will be time to move on to something new

I guess you didn't realize he has a new baby either on the way or already here and a regular job to contend with. Pongster's build is pretty stable if you ask me. Just uses more battery than other ROMs that I have used on my phone.

slbenz said:
I guess you didn't realize he has a new baby either on the way or already here and a regular job to contend with. Pongster's build is pretty stable if you ask me. Just uses more battery than other ROMs that I have used on my phone.
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Mine just work fine. Medium-heavy use gives me max of 15hrs.
Sent from my Calculator with Android.

low and heavy usage are different for every person. mAh are more informative and on this side the battery was worse for me than on other builds.

Hyperdroid cm7 works no problems for me. 15 - 18hrs is OK for me
Sent from my HD2 using XDA App

slbenz said:
I guess you didn't realize he has a new baby either on the way or already here and a regular job to contend with. Pongster's build is pretty stable if you ask me. Just uses more battery than other ROMs that I have used on my phone.
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No, I didnt realize that, and after searching through his ROM forums, didnt see anything about it and gave up searching. His ROM is more than stable though and I love it. I get up to 18 hr's a day of battery on normal usage, with a couple tweaks too though. Its the only ROM I've been using since I first tried his GBX V2.0, but if he's taking time off to handle personal stuff then I'm gonna go flash crazy trying other ROM's now. Just wondering if we could expect anything new from him is all. Thanks for the info though.

Dorimanx High End
Switch to Dorimanx High End Rom, best Rom imo, has best support by far, smooth, fast, and updated constantly.

Sully6789 said:
No, I didnt realize that, and after searching through his ROM forums, didnt see anything about it and gave up searching. His ROM is more than stable though and I love it. I get up to 18 hr's a day of battery on normal usage, with a couple tweaks too though. Its the only ROM I've been using since I first tried his GBX V2.0, but if he's taking time off to handle personal stuff then I'm gonna go flash crazy trying other ROM's now. Just wondering if we could expect anything new from him is all. Thanks for the info though.
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No problem. Like you because there hasn't been a recent update, I have been trying other ROMs. So far, Tytung's Nexus HD2 v2.8 build the last couple of weeks has been very stable for me, similar to Pongsters but with even less battery drain. 3% battery loss vs. 5% battery loss on overnight standby. Also, actual app use, Tytung's build on my phone is about on average 50mA less than Pongsters. Though I do somewhat miss the CM configurations possible on Pongster's build. Both are great builds, but it again boils down to what you want on your phone. For me, solid GPS and Bluetooth are what I need and that is what Tytung brings to me. But Pongster's build is slightly more responsive and more configurable. Good luck flashing other ROMs. Let us know what you find out.

Right now I'm using D4RK MIUI V 4.0.1 by Zx The Ripper xZ. I hadn't tried a MIUI ROM before but I gotta say, I'm very impressed. I love the customization it offers, along the with overall look and feel. I had to go with ADW Launcher though, just because that's what I'm used to with HyperDroid. I get a full days worth of battery after calibration, and the integrated AGPS libs is a plus too. Tytung really knocked it outta the park with that one, and put our HD2's one step closer to becoming an almost full fledged native device. I'm gonna use it for a few days, and then I think I'll try Dorimanx High End Rom, and probably Tytung's Nexus HD2 after that, just because I know Tytung's stuff is always top notch. Theres so many choices, I'm just gonna have fun with it, and maybe try em all Thanks guys.

i read on a rom thread that the high battery drain for cm7 roms is related to the lockscreen and email.apk. if you delete email.apk and chose another lockscreen than default the battery drain should be gone. but i didn't try cause i'm on miui.
think this was written in the dorimax rom thread.