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T-Mobile G2 with Google, first T-mobile HSPA+ phone

T-Mobile G2 with Google, first HSPA+ phone from T-Mobile.
http://g2.t-mobile.com/
Specs?

Can't wait for the g2. Gonna be hard to give up my NEXUS.

I don;t think the G2 will be the replacement of my N1. According to all the articles that I've read, they say it will be a 800MHz (only speculations at this time) processor and not a +1GHz. If this is true, then I'll wait for the N2.
http://androidspin.com/2010/08/12/rumor-t-mobiles-first-hspa-device-g1-blazehtc-g2/

I dont think its going to be the vision to be honest.
Its pointless to have a phone with scorching web speeds and an inferior processor. Android spin starts more bull**** rumors then anyone anyway.

jcohenlv said:
I dont think its going to be the vision to be honest.
Its pointless to have a phone with scorching web speeds and an inferior processor. Android spin starts more bull**** rumors then anyone anyway.
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This phone will not have anything past 1ghz snapdragons we all know as of right now. The new line isn't coming until the end of the year.

I think I might give up my nexi, I've been dying for a keyboard phone comparable to the nexus one. This may be it.

Not me. I rooted mine when the 1-click root app came out and it gave me more reasons to keep mine. I love it even more! I can't believe i thought of replacing it.
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so now that cyanogen has told us it's a different processor I'm hoping it'll be good. they need to release official specs soon

mcp2009 said:
so now that cyanogen has told us it's a different processor
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A) Link?
B) How would he know?

Paul22000 said:
A) Link?
B) How would he know?
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If you check his twitter account, he posted the details of the processor a couple of days ago. But yeah I think it said between 800mhz-1ghz

sstang2006 said:
I don;t think the G2 will be the replacement of my N1. According to all the articles that I've read, they say it will be a 800MHz (only speculations at this time) processor and not a +1GHz. If this is true, then I'll wait for the N2.
http://androidspin.com/2010/08/12/rumor-t-mobiles-first-hspa-device-g1-blazehtc-g2/
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This is one of those cases where MHz won't matter one bit. The chip has a whole bunch of new features not found on the N1, including many hardware multimedia accelerators. Plus, you really won't notice much of a different with just a 200MHz drop.
With a faster radio, more memory and better hardware acceleration, the CPU speed becomes less important.
I'll upgrade if it offers speedy HD video, HDMI out and more memory as those are the things I'm missing on my N1.

The phone will have the scorpion chip set which equivalent too the snapdragon, but with a better cpu and wvga screen
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It's going to be hard for me to give my Nexus up as well. I'm still trying to weigh my options on whether I should just go ahead and get the G2 or keep my N1. If the screen size is not 4.3" I will be keeping my Nexus until a 4.3" T-Mobile Android deice come out.
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Heres a link but I'm not sure how he knows

mcp2009 said:
Heres a link but I'm not sure how he knows
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Information from the leaked g2rom

mcp2009 said:
Heres a link but I'm not sure how he knows
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Thanks.
I'm still waiting for a 1.3-1.5 GHz phone before replacing my Nexus.

Honestly, im waitng for the next Dev phone, personally the mod community on the Nexus One is far superior to anything it could be on any other phone. So i'll wait, im not a slide out keyboard guy anyway. Google tends to release a new "dev" phone for each major release:
G1 - 1.0 &1.5
MT3G - 1.6 (i think)
Droid -2.0
Nexus One -2.1 & 2.2

Droid was never a development phone

JCopernicus said:
Droid was never a development phone
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no but is was a pure android phone (no skin or anything) and was the flagship phone for 2.0, so as far as im concerned it was an unofficial dev phone

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Droid was never a development phone
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Blueman101 said:
no but is was a pure android phone (no skin or anything) and was the flagship phone for 2.0, so as far as im concerned it was an unofficial dev phone
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Not to mention Google was giving it away along with Nexus One's to developers.

any overclocking guides for the fascinate?

I'm not new to overclocking, but I AM new to Android, so when it comes to overclocking an Android phone, I'm as useless as the next guy.
I noticed people got the i9000 version as well as the Captivate version to overclock to 1.2Ghz, but I can't find anything on the Fascinate. One member mentioned in another thread they overclocked, but I don't see how.
So how do we overclock the Fascinate? If there's a guide out there, it should be a sticky here!

Need overclocked kernels to achieve that, and we don't have any as of yet.

Gotta wait for custom kernels to start rolling out, which will be soon

Man you guys are sick.
The phone is at 1Ghz right now. Almost Twice the speed the original Motorola Droid. And you want to overclock already.
What kind of things are you doing with your phone that need that kind of speed. ..

smilepak said:
Man you guys are sick.
The phone is at 1Ghz right now. Almost Twice the speed the original Motorola Droid. And you want to overclock already.
What kind of things are you doing with your phone that need that kind of speed. ..
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Why would you not want to overclock your phone?
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actually its been said(but not done yet) that these phones can easily overclock to 1.6ghz so its only a matter of time, this will eventually be one of the more popular galaxy s phones bc its on vzw which is prolly the largest network in the world if not very close. cant wait for this ****. i really dont know if vzw is that big but u would think it is

ksizzle9 said:
actually its been said(but not done yet) that these phones can easily overclock to 1.6ghz so its only a matter of time, this will eventually be one of the more popular galaxy s phones bc its on vzw which is prolly the largest network in the world if not very close. cant wait for this ****. i really dont know if vzw is that big but u would think it is
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Seriously? 1.6ghz? Where did these numbers come from just wondering? Not that I don't believe you just skeptical. If those facts are true that's freaking awesome!

u can go to the irc chat for the i9000(international SGS) Or prolly find it n xda under i9000 I know its been said it can be done but hasn't been yet. This isn't like the Snapdragon or Dx, D2 processors that are basically maxed out at 1ghz. I don't know any specifics bit I believe it. Hit the forums and chatrooms. If I'm wrong my bad. But I know its been said at some point that this processor is capable. If u ask or find it post back with any recent info.
they call me...kick ass

http://www.intomobile.com/2010/08/1...ck-hits-1-2ghz-delivers-off-chart-benchmarks/

I can't wait for stuff like this to start coming out
My phone made words....

ksizzle9 said:
actually its been said(but not done yet) that these phones can easily overclock to 1.6ghz so its only a matter of time, this will eventually be one of the more popular galaxy s phones bc its on vzw which is prolly the largest network in the world if not very close. cant wait for this ****. i really dont know if vzw is that big but u would think it is
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oh yes they can mine was for a bit i went back down to 1.2 though

lordmalice said:
oh yes they can mine was for a bit i went back down to 1.2 though
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No, they cannot.
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1.6 ghz = Fast as hell FOR 10 Mins then kaput

selling mt3gs what to get next?

so i wanna sell my phone
but whats the next best thing... galaxy s? what is everybody else gravitating to?
so many phones to choose from

I love my Vibrant....just remember the G2 is hardware locked for rooting. There are some sweet roms for the Vibrant. And if you're hot for Froyo....there's a rom for that. The main issue is the Gps still has a few kinks to be worked out....other than that you'd have to pry it from my cold dead hands.
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I would and am waiting to see what is offered during Q1 of 2011... G2 may be "locked" but it's not hardware, besides the Vibrant still hasn't seen a stable 1.4GHz OC.

RavenWulf said:
I would and am waiting to see what is offered during Q1 of 2011... G2 may be "locked" but it's not hardware, besides the Vibrant still hasn't seen a stable 1.4GHz OC.
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Has anyone confirmed if the G2 will not be root'able? I was just informed I may get this as an early present...

fermunky said:
Has anyone confirmed if the G2 will not be root'able? I was just informed I may get this as an early present...
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It hasn't been confirmed that it will remain unrootable. Last thing I read cyanogen and crew were working on it and have said it will be difficult but they will find a way just like they have with other pita phones like ours.

Yeah I just checked the HTC Vision dev forums and they already have a one-click temp root, so I imagine a full root wouldn't be far off.

kkeller416 said:
so i wanna sell my phone
but whats the next best thing... galaxy s? what is everybody else gravitating to?
so many phones to choose from
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Why are you selling it?its a bad ass phone. My wife has 1 and she loves hers. 2.2 update will be soon on it so anything you get today or tomorrow will have 2.2 on it. What's the point? The mts3g is still a new phone. Wait a bit. You might find something ultimate after the new year. 2011 is the year for 4g and its products.
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well its all old technology, old processor that cant do flash, no hd screen...
it is a cool phone and hopefully 2.2 sense comes out and it will be good for a bit, but the newer 4g, hd phones are the way to go in my opinion.

kkeller416 said:
well its all old technology, old processor that cant do flash, no hd screen...
it is a cool phone and hopefully 2.2 sense comes out and it will be good for a bit, but the newer 4g, hd phones are the way to go in my opinion.
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Just because its new dosent mean its better
I-phone is a good example of that...Every year theres a new one.

kkeller416 said:
so i wanna sell my phone
but whats the next best thing... galaxy s? what is everybody else gravitating to?
so many phones to choose from
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Get the mytouch 4g.
768 ram
1ghz (newest chip)
FFC
5 mp
720p video recording
4 gb internal memory (hopefully we won't get screwed with this like the G2)
HTC Sense
No Keyboard
Nuff said!
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ok!! what is THIS?!!

i am going to buy my sgs2 tomorrow,,,,and now i am reading this-
http://www.gsmarena.com/the_galaxy_s_ii_cpu_might_be_boosted_up_to_14ghz-news-2824.php
God! i dont feel like waiting at all,,,but i ll be very irritated when some1 will bring the same model of my phone with better specs and tell me urs ws a beta version.
PS- I am sorry if posting a link to some other website is banned in this forum,,

guitarmafia said:
i am going to buy my sgs2 tomorrow,,,,and now i am reading this-
http://www.gsmarena.com/the_galaxy_s_ii_cpu_might_be_boosted_up_to_14ghz-news-2824.php
God! i dont feel like waiting at all,,,but i ll be very irritated when some1 will bring the same model of my phone with better specs and tell me urs ws a beta version.
PS- I am sorry if posting a link to some other website is banned in this forum,,
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You want get banned but theres 2 other threads right below yours. You can easily bump the cpu up to 1.4 unless your not into rooting your device. Im pretty sure this is something that would easily be upgradable through firmware or something.
But things like this happen to early adopters.

The article says it all, it is a RUMOR

beWater said:
The article says it all, it is a RUMOR
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they are talking about that everywhere,,,,
just google it...
another example--
http://top10.com/mobilephones/news/2011/06/samsung_galaxy_ii_plus_upgrade_incoming/

intruda119 said:
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You want get banned but theres 2 other threads right below yours. You can easily bump the cpu up to 1.4 unless your not into rooting your device. Im pretty sure this is something that would easily be upgradable through firmware or something.
But things like this happen to early adopters.
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i dont think that will be possible,,,as this upgrade will be a hardware one,,,samsung is doing this to compete with the incoming iphone 5..

When the phone came out in May without NFC the rumor of the day was that a newer version was due out in June with NFC. People held off buying, Samsung phone agents were quoted, and hundreds of posts were created. Do you see a NFC version of the SGS2 (outside of Korea)?
I'm sure the phone will evolve whether its a SGS2+ or SGS3, but Samsung would be nuts to short change their development and marketing investment in the SGS2 buy cutting its life short so quickly. Relax. Buy the phone.

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i dont think that will be possible,,,as this upgrade will be a hardware one,,,samsung is doing this to compete with the incoming iphone 5..
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What hardware change? There bumping the cpu from the sgs2 from 1.2 to 1.4. THere not using a completly different cpu. There basically overclocking the current cpu in sgs2. Intel and other manufactors have been re-releasing the same cpu with different clock speeds. Theres no difference.
And just like above poster said, its just a rumor. Cant believe everything you read, watch or hear.
Edit: If you read the article or kept up with sgs2 before released. It was originally launching with a 1ghz dual core cpu before samsung bumped the cpu up to 1.2. Im guessing after more testing, they believe the sgs2 can handle the 1.4 now.
Ive been running at 1.7 with tegrak overclock for the past week with no difference in battery and is very stable.

LOL at all these repeat threads. At some point, all you can do is laugh........

cmd512 said:
LOL at all these repeat threads. At some point, all you can do is laugh........
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or cry, take your choise

Razer(x) said:
or cry, take your choise
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cry or not,,,but i cant lol at this at all,,,

ZOMG it's 0.2 Ghz moooore !!
what are we gonna do ?
just wait for an uncertain device, then official press release, price release, date release, country release, carrier/store release !!!!!1!

Im stable at 1.6, this does not even make me blink

For usage, 1.2 and 1.4 is not much of a difference. The only time you will see the difference is when you are running benchmarks.

jeandujardin01 said:
ZOMG it's 0.2 Ghz moooore !!
what are we gonna do ?
just wait for an uncertain device, then official press release, price release, date release, country release, carrier/store release !!!!!1!
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ok i see ur point,,

cmd512 said:
LOL at all these repeat threads. At some point, all you can do is laugh........
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Nice ride BTW

tjjensen23 said:
Nice ride BTW
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Thanks.
Now hopefully, the mods will shutdown this thread given this silly topic has been started at a minimum of 3 times already!

As said, just overclock it. Done. Don't think we even need to overclock it though, people are satisfied with underclocking it to 800mhz.

This is all more or less marketing. Like commercials, which are always telling you, that you really need this brand new stuff, otherwise you live in history.

Kailkti said:
As said, just overclock it. Done. Don't think we even need to overclock it though, people are satisfied with underclocking it to 800mhz.
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Indeed, every game still runs smooth on 800mhz (except asphalt for some reason)
But battery life is much better, I have it running at 1ghz for now, but with conservative settings and undervolting on every stage. Enjoy your 2 days of heavy use

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BarryH_GEG said:
When the phone came out in May without NFC the rumor of the day was that a newer version was due out in June with NFC. People held off buying, Samsung phone agents were quoted, and hundreds of posts were created. Do you see a NFC version of the SGS2 (outside of Korea)?
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Err not true, the S2 I bought here in the UAE has NFC according to Samsung Arabia who has confirmed it to me and many others by email.
See the email at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14808534&postcount=1194

Been stuck at 1.1 for a while...

It's beginning to look like this phone won't go any higher than 1.1 Ghz for OC. Kind of disheartening..
Are there any other phones that have had similar barriers that could perhaps give some insight on to how our 1.1 barrier can be passed? I'm by no means a dev, but that doesn't mean I can't organize an effort! Perhaps a bounty is in order for this?

thebeardedchild said:
It's beginning to look like this phone won't go any higher than 1.1 Ghz for OC. Kind of disheartening..
Are there any other phones that have had similar barriers that could perhaps give some insight on to how our 1.1 barrier can be passed? I'm by no means a dev, but that doesn't mean I can't organize an effort! Perhaps a bounty is in order for this?
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Dual coreeeeeee bro! Haha jk. Im sure Moto just doesn't want us having fun.
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2.2 GHz in a phone is oh so slow
But yeah - the Optimus 2X can overclock to 1.5GHz. I'd love to see that!

blackalice said:
2.2 GHz in a phone is oh so slow
But yeah - the Optimus 2X can overclock to 1.5GHz. I'd love to see that!
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Dual core doesn't mean you can stack the clock speeds like that. Each processor can still only process at 1.1.

bilbert said:
Dual core doesn't mean you can stack the clock speeds like that. Each processor can still only process at 1.1.
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Lol yea it's funny how people don't understand that. A lot is lost with two processors because it is going back and forth.

BravoMotorola said:
Lol yea it's funny how people don't understand that. A lot is lost with two processors because it is going back and forth.
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You're making fun of people but you're using the wrong terminology.......hmm.
The phone doesn't have two processors, it has two cores on one bus.
And plus, "a lot is lost with two processors because it is going back and forth." - LOL @ that statement

k4zyn said:
You're making fun of people but you're using the wrong terminology.......hmm.
The phone doesn't have two processors, it has two cores on one bus.
And plus, "a lot is lost with two processors because it is going back and forth." - LOL @ that statement
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I think processors is an acceptable term for dual core chips...but I guess the politically correct term is dual core processor. Anyways, bickering about it is not helping.
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paravorheim said:
I think processors is an acceptable term for dual core chips...but I guess the politically correct term is dual core processor. Anyways, bickering about it is not helping.
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Really, I've never seen such a forum where no matter what the topic, everyone wastes time bickering about terminology, or rules or blah.
im trying to get people thinking about possible ways to break past this 1.1 barrier. Or to decide right now if its even possible!
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I think it would be best to just wait until the devs work on it instead of creating pointless posts like this one...
They have enough work on their hands with cm7 and right now is another 100mhz x 2 really going to make a diff at this point?? I personally would rather see a stable cm then worry about that. Another thing Id like to see on this forum is less whining and more encouraging posts (I came from a HTC Aria and am really starting to miss their community)
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I don't see why not. The XOOM can do it. But im sure Moto put up some road blocks.
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crossix said:
I think it would be best to just wait until the devs work on it instead of creating pointless posts like this one...
They have enough work on their hands with cm7 and right now is another 100mhz x 2 really going to make a diff at this point?? I personally would rather see a stable cm then worry about that. Another thing Id like to see on this forum is less whining and more encouraging posts (I came from a HTC Aria and am really starting to miss their community)
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Yeah you're post isn't contributing well to this apparently poor community either. Like I said, if you haven't anything productive to say, gtfo. There's more to be done than to just wait for devs to magically do it. Us lowly non devs can still look into what can be done. What do you suggest we do in these forums if not to promote discussion of enhancements to our phone?
The point of this thread is to sort of take the pressure off the devs to figure it all out on their own.
If you're gonna wastes everyones time, we'd like you to kindly take your whining back to the aria forum or something..
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Whining stops now.
If you want to discuss getting a bounty together for overclocking beyond 1.1Ghz, by all means continue to do so.
Otherwise, this thread will be closed.

Heh hopefully if a mod says what I've been harping this whole time it sticks. Well, anyone think a bounty for this is worth it? Honestly, other dual core phones are almost to 2.0. If we're fast at 1.1 can you imagine more? I'm never content with where I'm at so I say we get this phone as high as it can.
That being said, one concern is that anything higher than 1.1 is physically impossible no matter how you cut it. Like I said other dual cores are oc'd high, but who knows how this thing is different!
The real question before bounty talks can be made is: can we determine if its possible? Were other phones in this situation?
I remember when faux initially discussed it, he made it sound like it was some simple code holding it back but I dunno really..
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In my coding experience(I do it for fun here and there) if it were simple code it probably could've been replaced by now unless it were hardware dependent... which it shouldnt be because there are other Tegra 2 phones well past 1.1ghz... which sorta just leaves me in a conundrum...
I was hoping this would be fixed in cm7 because it uses a different kernal and whatnot so we'd find a work around... but I guess not yet
It would probably help me to pm someone like faux or knoll who have worked with it first hand though.
Anyways lets hope for a breakthrough soon to show everyone else how much better our phones are from theirs
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whatsaqazza said:
In my coding experience(I do it for fun here and there) if it were simple code it probably could've been replaced by now unless it were hardware dependent... which it shouldnt be because there are other Tegra 2 phones well past 1.1ghz... which sorta just leaves me in a conundrum...
I was hoping this would be fixed in cm7 because it uses a different kernal and whatnot so we'd find a work around... but I guess not yet
It would probably help me to pm someone like faux or knoll who have worked with it first hand though.
Anyways lets hope for a breakthrough soon to show everyone else how much better our phones are from theirs
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Those are good points. And yeah I probably worded that wrong, with the "simple line of code" thing, because now that you mention it that sounds TOO simple lol. I can't really remember what he said, but at the time it seemed less serious, as in 'the next version of my kernel would bypass it', ya know what I mean? But now here we are, still at 1.1. However, at the same time, the only guy really working on getting higher than 1.1 had halted his kernel progress to work on CM7, so I dunno. Perhaps a bounty would be good to get more devs in to take a look at it and see what to do.
And yeah it's a little reassuring to know that the Xoom did it, with essentially the same processor. Does anyone know if it had the same type of roadblock associated with it, where they couldn't OC much higher for a time?

From the little I've heard the xoom was able to oc to 1.5 without any kind of roadblocks(Idk about after that) but I've never rly heard of something like this for android phones from all the tech nerds I know haha... I think starting a bounty would be a good idea(and Id totally donate to something like that) but I also think once cm7 is stable they'll be more devs trying to fix this problem... who knows they might find something out by just tinkering with it on cm7
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whatsaqazza said:
From the little I've heard the xoom was able to oc to 1.5 without any kind of roadblocks(Idk about after that) but I've never rly heard of something like this for android phones from all the tech nerds I know haha... I think starting a bounty would be a good idea(and Id totally donate to something like that) but I also think once cm7 is stable they'll be more devs trying to fix this problem... who knows they might find something out by just tinkering with it on cm7
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Yeah I'd be willing to donate as well, of course (a given, as I seem to be worrying about this too much anyways ).
I've wondered if, since faux announced that "barrier", if either him or anyone else has even attempted to look at what causes it. I'm not saying 'those lazy bastards!!!11!' or anything, but if that's the case I'd almost feel better since that explains why it hasn't been done yet. Otherwise, the longer they HAVE looked at it with no avail, the more likely it is we're stuck at 1.1
Maybe tinkering will help...I honestly thought it would help while they developed it in the first place, since like you said earlier, it seems like it's not a hardware thing so a new ROM could have helped...

Someone with coding knowledge should contact whoever made the xoom overclock.
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Remember that a phone is essentially a small computer. It's not just the CPU which is involved. Memory timings, voltages, and cooling all play a huge part in OC'ing a CPU. This may be where the problem lies. If the phone requires memory timings which make it extremely unstable/unuseable at an OC higher than 1.1GHz, then it will always be a no go, no matter how you look at it. Similarily, if you have to step up the voltage, you induce more heat, and there is no active cooling in a phone.
In essence, there are many reasons why the OC may have stopped at 1.1GHz. It seems people really need to understand overclocking overall before commenting on what is and is not possible.
There is also the chance that nobody has really looked at this as important because all the work has gone into creating CM7, etc. I would say OC'ing past 1.1GHz is low on the totem pole for the few devs who are capable of doing it.

kholk claims to be releasing a 1.2 kernal today, I believe lt to be for testing to make sure it works but we shall see.
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