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T-Mobile G2 with Google, first HSPA+ phone from T-Mobile.
http://g2.t-mobile.com/
Specs?
Can't wait for the g2. Gonna be hard to give up my NEXUS.
I don;t think the G2 will be the replacement of my N1. According to all the articles that I've read, they say it will be a 800MHz (only speculations at this time) processor and not a +1GHz. If this is true, then I'll wait for the N2.
http://androidspin.com/2010/08/12/rumor-t-mobiles-first-hspa-device-g1-blazehtc-g2/
I dont think its going to be the vision to be honest.
Its pointless to have a phone with scorching web speeds and an inferior processor. Android spin starts more bull**** rumors then anyone anyway.
jcohenlv said:
I dont think its going to be the vision to be honest.
Its pointless to have a phone with scorching web speeds and an inferior processor. Android spin starts more bull**** rumors then anyone anyway.
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This phone will not have anything past 1ghz snapdragons we all know as of right now. The new line isn't coming until the end of the year.
I think I might give up my nexi, I've been dying for a keyboard phone comparable to the nexus one. This may be it.
Not me. I rooted mine when the 1-click root app came out and it gave me more reasons to keep mine. I love it even more! I can't believe i thought of replacing it.
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so now that cyanogen has told us it's a different processor I'm hoping it'll be good. they need to release official specs soon
mcp2009 said:
so now that cyanogen has told us it's a different processor
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A) Link?
B) How would he know?
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A) Link?
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If you check his twitter account, he posted the details of the processor a couple of days ago. But yeah I think it said between 800mhz-1ghz
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I don;t think the G2 will be the replacement of my N1. According to all the articles that I've read, they say it will be a 800MHz (only speculations at this time) processor and not a +1GHz. If this is true, then I'll wait for the N2.
http://androidspin.com/2010/08/12/rumor-t-mobiles-first-hspa-device-g1-blazehtc-g2/
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This is one of those cases where MHz won't matter one bit. The chip has a whole bunch of new features not found on the N1, including many hardware multimedia accelerators. Plus, you really won't notice much of a different with just a 200MHz drop.
With a faster radio, more memory and better hardware acceleration, the CPU speed becomes less important.
I'll upgrade if it offers speedy HD video, HDMI out and more memory as those are the things I'm missing on my N1.
The phone will have the scorpion chip set which equivalent too the snapdragon, but with a better cpu and wvga screen
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It's going to be hard for me to give my Nexus up as well. I'm still trying to weigh my options on whether I should just go ahead and get the G2 or keep my N1. If the screen size is not 4.3" I will be keeping my Nexus until a 4.3" T-Mobile Android deice come out.
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Heres a link but I'm not sure how he knows
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Heres a link but I'm not sure how he knows
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Information from the leaked g2rom
mcp2009 said:
Heres a link but I'm not sure how he knows
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Thanks.
I'm still waiting for a 1.3-1.5 GHz phone before replacing my Nexus.
Honestly, im waitng for the next Dev phone, personally the mod community on the Nexus One is far superior to anything it could be on any other phone. So i'll wait, im not a slide out keyboard guy anyway. Google tends to release a new "dev" phone for each major release:
G1 - 1.0 &1.5
MT3G - 1.6 (i think)
Droid -2.0
Nexus One -2.1 & 2.2
Droid was never a development phone
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Droid was never a development phone
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no but is was a pure android phone (no skin or anything) and was the flagship phone for 2.0, so as far as im concerned it was an unofficial dev phone
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Droid was never a development phone
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no but is was a pure android phone (no skin or anything) and was the flagship phone for 2.0, so as far as im concerned it was an unofficial dev phone
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Not to mention Google was giving it away along with Nexus One's to developers.
I been reading and i see all the rumors of it being released mid Oct and that it requires a 1GHZ cpu do you think the G2 will get the bump? (but we all know cm7 will be a for sure update) and yes i know the reqiurements are just rumors.
I doesn't need a 1ghz cpu.
You're wrong. The requirements are not just rumors but are confirmed to be wrong.
I just wonder how someone with 200+ posts still hasn't found the search function of this site.
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I been reading and i see all the rumors of it being released mid Oct and that it requires a 1GHZ cpu do you think the G2 will get the bump? (but we all know cm7 will be a for sure update) and yes i know the reqiurements are just rumors.
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first off... we HAVE a 1GHZ capable scorpion processor (its just UNDERclocked at 800MHZ to save battery) and the fastest android phone available so yes, of f*cking course the G2 QUALIFIES for gingerbread (sorry I freaking hate that stupid rumor. it's nothing personal... it's just been asked around 10 million times). second... that is debatable whether 3.0 will be pushed to the G2 since tmobile has been screwing all their android phone customers with their lack off new OS version otas after 1.6 so.... who nows for sure. it seems like they didn't release 2.2 for the MTS so some of the owners would upgrade to the G2. and guess what? it worked... we will get a couple fix otas (one is being pushed out as we speak) but know one knows for sure what they will do. if can root the darn thing (hopefully the ota being sent will help in the efforts), we can just port it from the desire z or something similar if tmobile drops the ball on gingerbread. I wouldn't count on it... just my opinion
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we HAVE a 1GHZ capable scorpion processor (its just UNDERclocked at 800MHZ to save battery)
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I've seen this claim made over and over but have yet to see the basis for it. What are you basing that claim on?
People need to enjoy froyo before they start thinking about anything esle
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I've seen this claim made over and over but have yet to see the basis for it. What are you basing that claim on?
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e.g. http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a7230&c=qualcomm_msm7230
Can't find anything more canonical than that, sorry.
Guys its very simple. Lets consider the below statement (current situation):
A Desire with 1Ghz snapdragon that scores lower in benchmarks and slower than a 800mhz Desire Z.
If based on that "rumour spec", which do you think deserves Gingerbread more? The 'spec achieving' but slower 1Ghz Desire or the 'below spec' but faster 800mhz Desire Z?
PROCESSOR NUMBER IS NOT AN INDICATION OF ACTUAL PERFORMANCE drill that into your head and stop thinking that the Desire Z will not get Gingerbread.
This topic has been answered before, please use the search function next time.
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Guys its very simple. Lets consider the below statement (current situation):
A Desire with 1Ghz snapdragon that scores lower in benchmarks and slower than a 800mhz Desire Z.
If based on that "rumour spec", which do you think deserves Gingerbread more? The 'spec achieving' but slower 1Ghz Desire or the 'below spec' but faster 800mhz Desire Z?
PROCESSOR NUMBER IS NOT AN INDICATION OF ACTUAL PERFORMANCE drill that into your head and stop thinking that the Desire Z will not get Gingerbread.
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my sentiments exactly
Becksman said:
You're wrong. The requirements are not just rumors but are confirmed to be wrong.
I just wonder how someone with 200+ posts still hasn't found the search function of this site.
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I searched but what I typed didn't nothing come up and I figured if the Nexus One would get it we would also, and I always felt that our cpu was underclock based on the scores, and yes im aware the processor numbers doesnt account for performance. I havent did much following on Gingerbread so yeah thought id ask my peers..and thanks for clearing that up.
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I searched but what I typed didn't nothing come up
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Search result with query: Gingerbread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7968305&postcount=20
which links to the source:
http://gizmodo.com/5578055/android-gingerbread-rumors-dismissed-by-google-on-twitter
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Search result with query: Gingerbread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7968305&postcount=20
which links to the source:
http://gizmodo.com/5578055/android-gingerbread-rumors-dismissed-by-google-on-twitter
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oh ok thanks i searched by android 3.0 but the info from the link is good i didnt come across that with my late night googling same ones was popping up from june.
you know XDA has this feature where when you decide on a title for a thread it actually searches for you and you have to scroll down past the results to post the rest of your new thread. i don't mean to be rude, had a trying day and thought for a second that XDA would make me happier(wow i'm f*cking stupid for that).
we need to remove the add new topic from the tapatalk app as it makes search harder and new thread easier. these rumors have been debunked, and notice that the G2 out peforms EVERY other phone out there even with the "slower" CPU, the underclock is a software lock so we could get it kicked up a notch when 3.0 is released(which from recent rumors 3.0 is actually honeycomb). if you don't think the phone will get updates then please return your phone and get a nexus.
sino8r thank you for posting that these were rumors but it seems these rumors will never go away
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you know XDA has this feature where when you decide on a title for a thread it actually searches for you and you have to scroll down past the results to post the rest of your new thread. i don't mean to be rude, had a trying day and thought for a second that XDA would make me happier(wow i'm f*cking stupid for that).
we need to remove the add new topic from the tapatalk app as it makes search harder and new thread easier. these rumors have been debunked, and notice that the G2 out peforms EVERY other phone out there even with the "slower" CPU, the underclock is a software lock so we could get it kicked up a notch when 3.0 is released(which from recent rumors 3.0 is actually honeycomb). if you don't think the phone will get updates then please return your phone and get a nexus.
sino8r thank you for posting that these were rumors but it seems these rumors will never go away
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im happy with my phone was just wondering and yeah thanks for the tip honeycomb huh its been that long? i had a vibrant since july i wasnt worried about 3.0 more about 2.2 lol lag fixes gps fixes etc never again will i disown a HTC phone ive learned my lesson but thanks for the tips guys sorry if i caused too much trouble.
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e.g. http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a7230&c=qualcomm_msm7230
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Thank you. That's better than what most people cite (their ass).
i am going to buy my sgs2 tomorrow,,,,and now i am reading this-
http://www.gsmarena.com/the_galaxy_s_ii_cpu_might_be_boosted_up_to_14ghz-news-2824.php
God! i dont feel like waiting at all,,,but i ll be very irritated when some1 will bring the same model of my phone with better specs and tell me urs ws a beta version.
PS- I am sorry if posting a link to some other website is banned in this forum,,
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i am going to buy my sgs2 tomorrow,,,,and now i am reading this-
http://www.gsmarena.com/the_galaxy_s_ii_cpu_might_be_boosted_up_to_14ghz-news-2824.php
God! i dont feel like waiting at all,,,but i ll be very irritated when some1 will bring the same model of my phone with better specs and tell me urs ws a beta version.
PS- I am sorry if posting a link to some other website is banned in this forum,,
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You want get banned but theres 2 other threads right below yours. You can easily bump the cpu up to 1.4 unless your not into rooting your device. Im pretty sure this is something that would easily be upgradable through firmware or something.
But things like this happen to early adopters.
The article says it all, it is a RUMOR
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The article says it all, it is a RUMOR
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they are talking about that everywhere,,,,
just google it...
another example--
http://top10.com/mobilephones/news/2011/06/samsung_galaxy_ii_plus_upgrade_incoming/
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You want get banned but theres 2 other threads right below yours. You can easily bump the cpu up to 1.4 unless your not into rooting your device. Im pretty sure this is something that would easily be upgradable through firmware or something.
But things like this happen to early adopters.
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i dont think that will be possible,,,as this upgrade will be a hardware one,,,samsung is doing this to compete with the incoming iphone 5..
When the phone came out in May without NFC the rumor of the day was that a newer version was due out in June with NFC. People held off buying, Samsung phone agents were quoted, and hundreds of posts were created. Do you see a NFC version of the SGS2 (outside of Korea)?
I'm sure the phone will evolve whether its a SGS2+ or SGS3, but Samsung would be nuts to short change their development and marketing investment in the SGS2 buy cutting its life short so quickly. Relax. Buy the phone.
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i dont think that will be possible,,,as this upgrade will be a hardware one,,,samsung is doing this to compete with the incoming iphone 5..
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What hardware change? There bumping the cpu from the sgs2 from 1.2 to 1.4. THere not using a completly different cpu. There basically overclocking the current cpu in sgs2. Intel and other manufactors have been re-releasing the same cpu with different clock speeds. Theres no difference.
And just like above poster said, its just a rumor. Cant believe everything you read, watch or hear.
Edit: If you read the article or kept up with sgs2 before released. It was originally launching with a 1ghz dual core cpu before samsung bumped the cpu up to 1.2. Im guessing after more testing, they believe the sgs2 can handle the 1.4 now.
Ive been running at 1.7 with tegrak overclock for the past week with no difference in battery and is very stable.
LOL at all these repeat threads. At some point, all you can do is laugh........
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LOL at all these repeat threads. At some point, all you can do is laugh........
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or cry, take your choise
Razer(x) said:
or cry, take your choise
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cry or not,,,but i cant lol at this at all,,,
ZOMG it's 0.2 Ghz moooore !!
what are we gonna do ?
just wait for an uncertain device, then official press release, price release, date release, country release, carrier/store release !!!!!1!
Im stable at 1.6, this does not even make me blink
For usage, 1.2 and 1.4 is not much of a difference. The only time you will see the difference is when you are running benchmarks.
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ZOMG it's 0.2 Ghz moooore !!
what are we gonna do ?
just wait for an uncertain device, then official press release, price release, date release, country release, carrier/store release !!!!!1!
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ok i see ur point,,
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LOL at all these repeat threads. At some point, all you can do is laugh........
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Nice ride BTW
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Nice ride BTW
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Thanks.
Now hopefully, the mods will shutdown this thread given this silly topic has been started at a minimum of 3 times already!
As said, just overclock it. Done. Don't think we even need to overclock it though, people are satisfied with underclocking it to 800mhz.
This is all more or less marketing. Like commercials, which are always telling you, that you really need this brand new stuff, otherwise you live in history.
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As said, just overclock it. Done. Don't think we even need to overclock it though, people are satisfied with underclocking it to 800mhz.
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Indeed, every game still runs smooth on 800mhz (except asphalt for some reason)
But battery life is much better, I have it running at 1ghz for now, but with conservative settings and undervolting on every stage. Enjoy your 2 days of heavy use
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When the phone came out in May without NFC the rumor of the day was that a newer version was due out in June with NFC. People held off buying, Samsung phone agents were quoted, and hundreds of posts were created. Do you see a NFC version of the SGS2 (outside of Korea)?
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Err not true, the S2 I bought here in the UAE has NFC according to Samsung Arabia who has confirmed it to me and many others by email.
See the email at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14808534&postcount=1194
The other day a friend of mine with the new Evo 3D told me that, even while the phone has a locked bootloader and no root, someone was able to overclock the phone to 1.8 Ghz...That's insane! It's 1.2 by default.
Ours is 1.0 of course, what do you think we could max it out at in the future, as more development happens on the phone down the road?
And for that matter, do you think we'd be able to see those "trickle" battery kernel things implemented at some point? I read about those some time ago and it seemed pretty awesome/great for battery life without being limited on usage.
What are some of your thoughts on our kernel-ish future?
Tegra 2 optimization with 1.5 ghz max overclock imo.
I'm not putting my phone past 1.2 though. 1.2 tegra results are 3300ish/2800ish on smartbench, and that's good enough for anything on android atm.
We just need a CM7 build on the atrix. Even if it's not too great. That'll attract a huge crowd to it and then we'll have an even more active dev community.
1.8ghz Evo3d is about equal with a 1.0ghz atrix lol
The Xoom Tegra 2's seem to be overclocking rather well.
1.5ghz looks like the sweet spot.
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Tegra 2 optimization with 1.5 ghz max overclock imo.
I'm not putting my phone past 1.2 though. 1.2 tegra results are 3300ish/2800ish on smartbench, and that's good enough for anything on android atm.
We just need a CM7 build on the atrix. Even if it's not too great. That'll attract a huge crowd to it and then we'll have an even more active dev community.
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well last night i asked aliasxerog on twitter how the port was going and he said, "I have a kernel in the oven as we speak" I can't wait
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well last night i asked aliasxerog on twitter how the port was going and he said, "I have a kernel in the oven as we speak" I can't wait
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Whoa whoa whoa hold the phone lol..who is this aliasxerog anyway??
@Kingkuba, what do you mean the 1.8 evo is the same as 1.0 atrix? Honestly I'm a n00b and I always seem to think "the more Ghz the better", which I know is stupid but I can't help it lol.
http://twitter.com/#!/aliasxerog
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Whoa whoa whoa hold the phone lol..who is this aliasxerog anyway??
@Kingkuba, what do you mean the 1.8 evo is the same as 1.0 atrix? Honestly I'm a n00b and I always seem to think "the more Ghz the better", which I know is stupid but I can't help it lol.
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http://twitter.com/#!/aliasxerog
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Excellent. So is he one of the guys that had an Atrix Sent to him?
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thebeardedchild said:
Excellent. So is he one of the guys that had an Atrix Sent to him?
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Pretty sure, but hes def devving cm7 roms
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Pretty sure, but hes def devving cm7 roms
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Cool beans. I had no idea that they had any progress, especially this far along
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Cool beans. I had no idea that they had any progress, especially this far along
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I think he may be having trouble getting a bootable rom though. So hopefully it works out with his new kernel/magics. Read through his twitter a bit, some golden nugs in there
The moto XOOM, which has Tegra 2, is stable at 1.7 ghz
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How is cooling in the XOOM compared to the Atrix? I know my phone gets hot on the bottom at stock clock when doing processing-heavy tasks... I can't imagine 1.7ghz could be very good.
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How is cooling in the XOOM compared to the Atrix? I know my phone gets hot on the bottom at stock clock when doing processing-heavy tasks... I can't imagine 1.7ghz could be very good.
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It all depends on the voltage.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the clock doesn't affect the heat of the chip, only the voltage does (which can change with the clock, but doesn't have to). So you can have a 1.2 ghz cpu running at 6mv and a 1.0 ghz cpu running at 6mv and they will run at the same temps (if I'm correct).
He tweeted again
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So it seems some of you guys think 1.5 will be the most we might be able to overclock? What would be the reasoning behind this? I mean I've seen a lot of phones, dual core and single core that get up to like 1.8...
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humjaba said:
How is cooling in the XOOM compared to the Atrix? I know my phone gets hot on the bottom at stock clock when doing processing-heavy tasks... I can't imagine 1.7ghz could be very good.
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I have my Xoom stable at 1.6ghz. From what I've read, that seems to be pretty standard, some unlucky soles have to settle for 1.4 (or even less) but there's also a decent number of lucky ones who have it running stably 1.7ghz.
I've had my Atrix for a month or so now, and being international, can't unlock the bootloader (yet). Can't wait to see some custom ROMs/kernels!!
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So it seems some of you guys think 1.5 will be the most we might be able to overclock? What would be the reasoning behind this? I mean I've seen a lot of phones, dual core and single core that get up to like 1.8...
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I say 1.5 is easy for us. Perhaps 1.7/1.8 can come at a later time, but I've seen Faux's kernel on the G2X for 1.5, and that just seems to be a sweet spot for Tegra2.
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Whoa whoa whoa hold the phone lol..who is this aliasxerog anyway??
@Kingkuba, what do you mean the 1.8 evo is the same as 1.0 atrix? Honestly I'm a n00b and I always seem to think "the more Ghz the better", which I know is stupid but I can't help it lol.
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The processor in the Atrix has 2 cores where as the EVO has 1.. that = moar powa!
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The processor in the Atrix has 2 cores where as the EVO has 1.. that = moar powa!
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The evo 3d is dual core though..
Edit: oh I see I accidentally said just evolution, sorry.
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It's beginning to look like this phone won't go any higher than 1.1 Ghz for OC. Kind of disheartening..
Are there any other phones that have had similar barriers that could perhaps give some insight on to how our 1.1 barrier can be passed? I'm by no means a dev, but that doesn't mean I can't organize an effort! Perhaps a bounty is in order for this?
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It's beginning to look like this phone won't go any higher than 1.1 Ghz for OC. Kind of disheartening..
Are there any other phones that have had similar barriers that could perhaps give some insight on to how our 1.1 barrier can be passed? I'm by no means a dev, but that doesn't mean I can't organize an effort! Perhaps a bounty is in order for this?
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Dual coreeeeeee bro! Haha jk. Im sure Moto just doesn't want us having fun.
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2.2 GHz in a phone is oh so slow
But yeah - the Optimus 2X can overclock to 1.5GHz. I'd love to see that!
blackalice said:
2.2 GHz in a phone is oh so slow
But yeah - the Optimus 2X can overclock to 1.5GHz. I'd love to see that!
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Dual core doesn't mean you can stack the clock speeds like that. Each processor can still only process at 1.1.
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Dual core doesn't mean you can stack the clock speeds like that. Each processor can still only process at 1.1.
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Lol yea it's funny how people don't understand that. A lot is lost with two processors because it is going back and forth.
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Lol yea it's funny how people don't understand that. A lot is lost with two processors because it is going back and forth.
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You're making fun of people but you're using the wrong terminology.......hmm.
The phone doesn't have two processors, it has two cores on one bus.
And plus, "a lot is lost with two processors because it is going back and forth." - LOL @ that statement
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You're making fun of people but you're using the wrong terminology.......hmm.
The phone doesn't have two processors, it has two cores on one bus.
And plus, "a lot is lost with two processors because it is going back and forth." - LOL @ that statement
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I think processors is an acceptable term for dual core chips...but I guess the politically correct term is dual core processor. Anyways, bickering about it is not helping.
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paravorheim said:
I think processors is an acceptable term for dual core chips...but I guess the politically correct term is dual core processor. Anyways, bickering about it is not helping.
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Really, I've never seen such a forum where no matter what the topic, everyone wastes time bickering about terminology, or rules or blah.
im trying to get people thinking about possible ways to break past this 1.1 barrier. Or to decide right now if its even possible!
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I think it would be best to just wait until the devs work on it instead of creating pointless posts like this one...
They have enough work on their hands with cm7 and right now is another 100mhz x 2 really going to make a diff at this point?? I personally would rather see a stable cm then worry about that. Another thing Id like to see on this forum is less whining and more encouraging posts (I came from a HTC Aria and am really starting to miss their community)
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I don't see why not. The XOOM can do it. But im sure Moto put up some road blocks.
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crossix said:
I think it would be best to just wait until the devs work on it instead of creating pointless posts like this one...
They have enough work on their hands with cm7 and right now is another 100mhz x 2 really going to make a diff at this point?? I personally would rather see a stable cm then worry about that. Another thing Id like to see on this forum is less whining and more encouraging posts (I came from a HTC Aria and am really starting to miss their community)
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Yeah you're post isn't contributing well to this apparently poor community either. Like I said, if you haven't anything productive to say, gtfo. There's more to be done than to just wait for devs to magically do it. Us lowly non devs can still look into what can be done. What do you suggest we do in these forums if not to promote discussion of enhancements to our phone?
The point of this thread is to sort of take the pressure off the devs to figure it all out on their own.
If you're gonna wastes everyones time, we'd like you to kindly take your whining back to the aria forum or something..
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Whining stops now.
If you want to discuss getting a bounty together for overclocking beyond 1.1Ghz, by all means continue to do so.
Otherwise, this thread will be closed.
Heh hopefully if a mod says what I've been harping this whole time it sticks. Well, anyone think a bounty for this is worth it? Honestly, other dual core phones are almost to 2.0. If we're fast at 1.1 can you imagine more? I'm never content with where I'm at so I say we get this phone as high as it can.
That being said, one concern is that anything higher than 1.1 is physically impossible no matter how you cut it. Like I said other dual cores are oc'd high, but who knows how this thing is different!
The real question before bounty talks can be made is: can we determine if its possible? Were other phones in this situation?
I remember when faux initially discussed it, he made it sound like it was some simple code holding it back but I dunno really..
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In my coding experience(I do it for fun here and there) if it were simple code it probably could've been replaced by now unless it were hardware dependent... which it shouldnt be because there are other Tegra 2 phones well past 1.1ghz... which sorta just leaves me in a conundrum...
I was hoping this would be fixed in cm7 because it uses a different kernal and whatnot so we'd find a work around... but I guess not yet
It would probably help me to pm someone like faux or knoll who have worked with it first hand though.
Anyways lets hope for a breakthrough soon to show everyone else how much better our phones are from theirs
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whatsaqazza said:
In my coding experience(I do it for fun here and there) if it were simple code it probably could've been replaced by now unless it were hardware dependent... which it shouldnt be because there are other Tegra 2 phones well past 1.1ghz... which sorta just leaves me in a conundrum...
I was hoping this would be fixed in cm7 because it uses a different kernal and whatnot so we'd find a work around... but I guess not yet
It would probably help me to pm someone like faux or knoll who have worked with it first hand though.
Anyways lets hope for a breakthrough soon to show everyone else how much better our phones are from theirs
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Those are good points. And yeah I probably worded that wrong, with the "simple line of code" thing, because now that you mention it that sounds TOO simple lol. I can't really remember what he said, but at the time it seemed less serious, as in 'the next version of my kernel would bypass it', ya know what I mean? But now here we are, still at 1.1. However, at the same time, the only guy really working on getting higher than 1.1 had halted his kernel progress to work on CM7, so I dunno. Perhaps a bounty would be good to get more devs in to take a look at it and see what to do.
And yeah it's a little reassuring to know that the Xoom did it, with essentially the same processor. Does anyone know if it had the same type of roadblock associated with it, where they couldn't OC much higher for a time?
From the little I've heard the xoom was able to oc to 1.5 without any kind of roadblocks(Idk about after that) but I've never rly heard of something like this for android phones from all the tech nerds I know haha... I think starting a bounty would be a good idea(and Id totally donate to something like that) but I also think once cm7 is stable they'll be more devs trying to fix this problem... who knows they might find something out by just tinkering with it on cm7
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whatsaqazza said:
From the little I've heard the xoom was able to oc to 1.5 without any kind of roadblocks(Idk about after that) but I've never rly heard of something like this for android phones from all the tech nerds I know haha... I think starting a bounty would be a good idea(and Id totally donate to something like that) but I also think once cm7 is stable they'll be more devs trying to fix this problem... who knows they might find something out by just tinkering with it on cm7
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Yeah I'd be willing to donate as well, of course (a given, as I seem to be worrying about this too much anyways ).
I've wondered if, since faux announced that "barrier", if either him or anyone else has even attempted to look at what causes it. I'm not saying 'those lazy bastards!!!11!' or anything, but if that's the case I'd almost feel better since that explains why it hasn't been done yet. Otherwise, the longer they HAVE looked at it with no avail, the more likely it is we're stuck at 1.1
Maybe tinkering will help...I honestly thought it would help while they developed it in the first place, since like you said earlier, it seems like it's not a hardware thing so a new ROM could have helped...
Someone with coding knowledge should contact whoever made the xoom overclock.
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Remember that a phone is essentially a small computer. It's not just the CPU which is involved. Memory timings, voltages, and cooling all play a huge part in OC'ing a CPU. This may be where the problem lies. If the phone requires memory timings which make it extremely unstable/unuseable at an OC higher than 1.1GHz, then it will always be a no go, no matter how you look at it. Similarily, if you have to step up the voltage, you induce more heat, and there is no active cooling in a phone.
In essence, there are many reasons why the OC may have stopped at 1.1GHz. It seems people really need to understand overclocking overall before commenting on what is and is not possible.
There is also the chance that nobody has really looked at this as important because all the work has gone into creating CM7, etc. I would say OC'ing past 1.1GHz is low on the totem pole for the few devs who are capable of doing it.
kholk claims to be releasing a 1.2 kernal today, I believe lt to be for testing to make sure it works but we shall see.
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