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Is it possible to force battery charging?

I've bought an aftrrmarket battery and I have problems cahrging it.
It often shows itself as "fully charged", the led blinks from orange to green and it does not charge.
Whe in windows mobile, it shows 100% (not true) , but if i tap the battery icon i see the real percentage.
It does not recharge also when the phone is off.
BUT
I have noticed that when i am into android mode (one of the ported builds) the battery charges ...
SO
I think there is something preventing WM to charge the battery when it is 100%, and this control is missing in android.
now the question:
is it possible to "force" the charging in WM so that it bypasses the "100%" problem (like in android?).
Thank you in advance

I think an orange and green light means theres a problem and it cant charge,
I have an unofficial battery that does that too......

no, as i told you, there is something more.
when i am in wm or the phone is off, cahrging is almost impossible (orange and green led, wm icon showing 100% charge even if the battery is 1%).
BUT
if i switch to boot mode (vol down on startup, hspl screen) or if i am in android, THE BATTERY CHARGES.

devilman said:
no, as i told you, there is something more.
when i am in wm or the phone is off, cahrging is almost impossible (orange and green led, wm icon showing 100% charge even if the battery is 1%).
BUT
if i switch to boot mode (vol down on startup, hspl screen) or if i am in android, THE BATTERY CHARGES.
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So you are trusting android, in beta on these phones, over the default battery charging software?
I hope you don't blow up your battery.
Do you still have the original battery? Does it charge properly in WinMo?

I don't know if this is any help but... I also bought a very *ahem* low priced battery and experienced the same problem you mention. This was before android was stable so I have yet to try that, but I was able to fully charge the battery in winmo by putting the phone next to the air-conditioner. My thought when I read your post is perhaps that winmo is running the phone hotter and inhibiting battery charging. Somehow, I feel as though I'm grasping at straws...

'Force' and 'lithium-ion battery' should probably never be in the same sentence.

The flashing LED is an indication of overheating, thus the system stops charging until the temperature drops.
Try charging it someplace cooler.
If that doesn't work, the a method I read about is to run the phone until it totally flattens the battery, then put it on a full charge for at least 4 hours.

fred_up said:
The flashing LED is an indication of overheating, thus the system stops charging until the temperature drops.
Try charging it someplace cooler.
If that doesn't work, the a method I read about is to run the phone until it totally flattens the battery, then put it on a full charge for at least 4 hours.
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or, turn the phone off while charging will help keep it cooler as well.

nrfitchett4 said:
or, turn the phone off while charging will help keep it cooler as well.
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Darn, I knew I forgot something

I have one original battery which the phone came with, and THREE oem chinese batteries which look exactly the same, except for the lower barcode which is tinier than the one on the original battery.
I only charge them outside of the phone, with an ac mains charger, and they go to full 100% since it's what the phone say when I switch them.
Whenever I charge them in the phone (only time it happens is when I'm in my car and use the lighter charger) it's just math, they end up in the green-orange led loop, and they stop charging.
It's well known and it's related to overheating, but at least they do not drop as well, which means I can go on and use them for gps navigation or any other task and the battery will stay at the percentage at which I left it.
I also have the same behaviour of OP, that is, taskbar icon says the battery is 100% and NOT charging, info panel after tapping taskbar reports real percentage, S2U2 reports real percentage in green, which means S2U2 sees it as charging. Anyway, as soon as I go home, I wait for the battery to drain to at least 10%, switch it out and slap it into the mains charger.
My oem batteries last up to 3 days.

I have the official HTC extended battery and with the latest chucky rom i have been using it wont charge in the phone anymore. It always used to with no problems. There is something missing software wise that prevents it from charging.

optiknerv said:
I have the official HTC extended battery and with the latest chucky rom i have been using it wont charge in the phone anymore. It always used to with no problems. There is something missing software wise that prevents it from charging.
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Is the middle pin of the battery contacts bent or different to the others?

The green/amber flashing means "charging problem" which can be due to overheating, but also can be due to an incompatible battery.
When I got my HD2 with the original O2 ROM, the HTC large capacity battery wasn't compatible, this required a ROM update.
If you're running stock, make sure you've got the latest ROM.

rp-x1 said:
Is the middle pin of the battery contacts bent or different to the others?
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Nope it seems fine. It charges the standard battery ok.
As I said im running Chucky ROM. I had something like 21st July chucky ROM on and it charged. Update to the 11th August ROM and it wont charge. Tried the 5th August the same. Havent had chance to go back to the 21st July one to check.
Incidentally I dont have green amber flashing lights. I have alternate Green and Red flashing.
The battery charges perfectly well in my desk charger and runs the phone fine it just wont charge in the phone.

[Q] [NAND] How to charge an empty battery?

NAND is a new experience with HD2 but what if the battery gets empty?
Mine won't recharge.
The LED lights orange but there is no recharge.
Seems like the devs have forgotten this very important thing...
Any ideas?

plug in the usb cable
then turn it off it wont shutdown completely and red led will turn on

Proz00 said:
plug in the usb cable
then turn it off it wont shutdown completely and red led will turn on
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Thanks, but the phone is off (battery is completely empty)...
Orange light is on but it does not charge...

Pull your battery out and also the plug. Wait one minute. Put in the adapter first, let it charge for 3 minutes, then startup the device. Pls do and report back
Sent from my htc_bravo using XDA App

With the phone off it should just charge, magldr doesn't load until turned on so its not nand related
Are you using usb charger or mains?

Ok, thanks. I will test it.

whynot66 said:
With the phone off it should just charge, magldr doesn't load until turned on so its not nand related
Are you using usb charger or mains?
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how couldnt it be nand related, when this problem came up with magldr and stuff lol.
it is a magldr bug.

simax said:
how couldnt it be nand related, when this problem came up with magldr and stuff lol.
it is a magldr bug.
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You tell me if I'm wrong but he's trying to charge his phone witch has no power the phone is off and it won't charge so how is that nand related?

If it is a battery that has not been used for a LONG time then you must "shock" it to be able to charge it again. Use a standard 9V alkaline battery and connect the +, - poles to the HTC battery +, - poles respectively using 2 wires - do that for 30 to 60 seconds. Then put the HTC battery back in the phone.
WARNING: Do NOT connect the 9V alkaline battery to the phone. Only to the HTC battery which you have removed from the phone.

Lol same thing happen to me yesterday i charge the phone for 10-15 mins then unplug the phone and pull battery then start the phone once completely in android replug it. I think dft said it was a known problem for nand to not start sometime when plug in although it only happen to me when I'm completely drained.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

whynot66 said:
You tell me if I'm wrong but he's trying to charge his phone witch has no power the phone is off and it won't charge so how is that nand related?
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its a bug caused by magldr believe me
its already a known problem.
you wont get charging issues with winmo rom (yes, while off)

phone wont turn on
the same problem happen to my battery in nand android is empty and when charge the orange light bulb wont turn on.help

simax said:
its a bug caused by magldr believe me
its already a known problem.
you wont get charging issues with winmo rom (yes, while off)
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I'll take your word for it he's probably fixed it by now anyways

Charging while phone is off is buggy for me since I installed MAGLDR.
For example sometimes orange light bulb freezes turned on even i unplug the cable, until I pull the battery.
Firsty I thought that the problem is impossible to be caused by magldr, but now lots of people with magldr installed are experienced battery charging problems ... interesting.
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PS: Charging on Android was also always buggy for me since the first HD2-Android release.
Some of the problems (randomly happens):
1- Charging stops when it hits to %90
2- Battery level jumps from %90 to 100% while charging (according to the JuicePlotter app, it draws battery graph by time)
I'm using TMOUS HD2 and tried every single Android build since the first release.

simax said:
how couldnt it be nand related, when this problem came up with magldr and stuff lol.
it is a magldr bug.
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simax said:
its a bug caused by magldr believe me
its already a known problem.
you wont get charging issues with winmo rom (yes, while off)
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I have reproduced this case several times,
but no, I don't have magldr installed,
only winmo and SD android.
I presume this is the bug of HD2 in general, that it won't charge when the battery level is 1% or bellow. Several occasions the phone was shut down during the sleep. Woke up and plug the charger and it always gives me orange-dim-green-dim-red-dim and so on,,, (note that this is in WinMo) and after turned the phone on, it stops charging and 15 seconds after booting, it shut off.
what I always do when I encounter this is performing battery cycles reset.
or,,, just uninstall the battery, wait for 10-30 seconds, re-install the battery, and with the phone off, charge the phone using wall charger.

These are the dangers playing with ROMS people. The rom controls vital functions of the hardware, including the way the system charges. This is a serious flaw that must be addressed immediately, and imo should not have been released if known about. The new territory of nand builds could even brick our phones permanently. I wouldnt mess around without reading reviews first. Android devs here have been quick to release builds overnight because they know it's just running off the SD card and can always be wiped back to winmo. Not anymore, these builds need SERIOUS testing first before being released to the general public.

This is caused from NAND Magldr.
If you have a cable plugged into your phone, either wall charger or USB, it will freeze when the phone shuts down.
Solution!!
Dont have the cable plugged in while powering down android.
If your LED stays orange after unplugging, pull your battery for 3 seconds and start again, it will only do this upon shutdown with some kind of cable plugged in.
This has never happened before Magldr.

This is a big issue... I dont know when Devs Team is gonna look into this and fix it...
Would it brick my phone?

No it won't brick your phone...how I solved it...discussed a couple days ago, here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=924347
Good luck...

[SOLVED]Yuki xbmod rom 7720 wont charge battery issue

as the title says... currently stuck at 12% for 6 hours of charging.
restarted, reformated and reset(mgdlr and wp7 os). still no go.
i know the battery drain is crazy in this build. batt hack is a no go.
battery save. no go.
any ideas? using v1.
update:v2 is a no go. able to charge in mgldr screen so cable,charger good.will flash 5.51 radio to reduce drain.
FIXED: Flashed v2 with built in radio 5.51T(combatible w/ EU and tmo). camera trick worked. back charging and drain gone. ROM runs smoothly. almost perfect... too bad ROM cant print money.. lol
FIX is Flash v2 with 5.51T radio(combatible w/ EU and tmo) and do camera trick!
i hope this helps!give me a thanks if it does.

try to flash with v2 maybe that will help
also before you flash in v2 folder try to change radio to:5.51.09.29
and then flash (on that rom you can use camera trick that will reduce battery drain)

tbor1277 said:
as the title says... currently stuck at 12% for 6 hours of charging.
restarted, reformated and reset(mgdlr and wp7 os). still no go.
i know the battery drain is crazy in this build. batt hack is a no go.
battery save. no go.
any ideas? using v1.
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are you getting any LED indication at all?
If you turn the phone off and plug in USB does MAGDLR boot the phone?
I assume you know you have a good USB cable? Can you confirm the cable can charge another device?

updated my post.

tbor1277 said:
updated my post.
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What about your LED? Are you by chance getting a Orange/Green flashing LED when you try to charge in WP7? If so it may be that windows thinks your battery is too hot... turn off and throw in the freezer for 10 minutes
if you have no LED indication at all then i am afraid i'm out of ideas

Same problem here. Connecting the cable make the battery blink for some seconds then showing nothing anymore. LED are off. Can charge the battery in a cradle and in Magldr so.

updated post w/ a fix.

[Q] Rebooting after dead battery.

Ok i don't know what's going on with this. I have been running a rom for a while on here, not sure which one, but this seems to happen with any Rom i've tried. But when the battery dies and i try to go to recharge it, it just keeps rebooting when it tried to load windows. . Once in awhile i have gotton it to go thru by unplugging it right before it goes into windows and then repluging it up when windows starts. But even that isn't working today.
Any ideas as to what to do to get it to charge properly?

Hi
I have an other experiens with dead battery. When my HD2 was dead I tryed to charge it but the red light indicating that´s charging didn´t get on. I red somewhere in this forum that when using current MAGLD 1.3 you must use external charger to charge the battery when dead but hopfully this will be corrected in future MAGLD. Reacently at work when I didn´t have my external charger with me my battery/HD2 died. I pulled in the usb charger and left so whitout the red light. After 1 hour the HD2 came alive and rebooted 2-3 times and I pulled the usb-charger and battery out. I pulled the battery back into my HD2 and it started as usual and I continued charging the battery full.
I think HD2 battery is charging even when the red light is off and it behaves strange when it cames alive. Try to pull out and in the battery and start the HD2. If it keeps rebooting I think you must try to hard reset WP7 (in magld when wp7 starts booting the 12.. is displayed hold down both upp and down volumkeys and when the text about rebooting is displayed push the volum down) this vill erase all your settings so be aware. Good luck

Hold down red/end key boot into magldr and let it sit charging for a few minutes. You will NOT see the charging light.
Boot as normal into wp7 and you will have enough juice to let it start charging.

I have the same problem when I use my HTC charger. But when I use my Samsung charger (came with my Galaxy Ace) HD2 boots normally. Also I noticed that when I use the phone on HTC charger battery keeps droping. I think it uses more power then the HTC charger charges. With my Samsung charger i dont have this problem.

I tried charging in MAGDLR menu, but that only drained the battery more. (v1.13) I had to buy a universal charger ($4) to get my phone working again.
Any idea why this hasn't been fixed in MAGDLR yet? Or might there be an alternative?
For now, I think I will program Tasker to shutdown the phone at 10% battery...
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using xda app-developers app

Same issue here but this time i got the Storage card missing message so i had to flash the rom again and i lost all my data. We should be very carefull with this issue till we get an update for magldr

problem in HD2 battery charging !

two days before i try change my hd2 rom with sd android.
it way very good and my phone boot up normally with android and working fine.
when i try to setup some application on new os my phone hang up and i have to eject the battery to restart the phone.
after that my phone restart with WM6.5 and everything seems ok but when i plug my phone to charger, it dosen't charge the phone and notification led blink in orange/ green color.
can somebody halp me?

wm6.5 might be the problem
are u running the sd build with the stock rom?
most of the problems do occur due to an incompatible wm6.5 rom
i suggest to try the android build with energy rom in wm6.5 rom development
and use radio 2.15.50.14 from the radio thread
ur charging problem might be solved..
further u can increase ur android's performance by creating an sd-ext partition(max1gb)... but it's just optional...

green / orange flashing led often points to problem battery.
Also look very carefully at the three battery pins, check for bends / cracks.

i change my phone os to android by nand method and the battery charge fine but it discharge about half a day with 30 min talk time.
i reflash it with official 3.14.405.2_Radio_15.42.50.11U_2.15.50.14 file and the same problem occur.

satinfo50 said:
i change my phone os to android by nand method and the battery charge fine but it discharge about half a day with 30 min talk time.
i reflash it with official 3.14.405.2_Radio_15.42.50.11U_2.15.50.14 file and the same problem occur.
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It sounds like Samsamuel maybe right and it is your battery going bad.

Check your phone battery temperature. Flashing green/red means also overheating.

[edit] it's your battery then, get a new battery and see if the problem is still there. I had the problem in android where I had a fake chinese battery and it just remained at 0%, and would only charge on cradle charger. If you want to keep the bad battery for a while try to using an external charger and see if it charges it better.