I've bought an aftrrmarket battery and I have problems cahrging it.
It often shows itself as "fully charged", the led blinks from orange to green and it does not charge.
Whe in windows mobile, it shows 100% (not true) , but if i tap the battery icon i see the real percentage.
It does not recharge also when the phone is off.
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I have noticed that when i am into android mode (one of the ported builds) the battery charges ...
SO
I think there is something preventing WM to charge the battery when it is 100%, and this control is missing in android.
now the question:
is it possible to "force" the charging in WM so that it bypasses the "100%" problem (like in android?).
Thank you in advance
I think an orange and green light means theres a problem and it cant charge,
I have an unofficial battery that does that too......
no, as i told you, there is something more.
when i am in wm or the phone is off, cahrging is almost impossible (orange and green led, wm icon showing 100% charge even if the battery is 1%).
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if i switch to boot mode (vol down on startup, hspl screen) or if i am in android, THE BATTERY CHARGES.
devilman said:
no, as i told you, there is something more.
when i am in wm or the phone is off, cahrging is almost impossible (orange and green led, wm icon showing 100% charge even if the battery is 1%).
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if i switch to boot mode (vol down on startup, hspl screen) or if i am in android, THE BATTERY CHARGES.
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So you are trusting android, in beta on these phones, over the default battery charging software?
I hope you don't blow up your battery.
Do you still have the original battery? Does it charge properly in WinMo?
I don't know if this is any help but... I also bought a very *ahem* low priced battery and experienced the same problem you mention. This was before android was stable so I have yet to try that, but I was able to fully charge the battery in winmo by putting the phone next to the air-conditioner. My thought when I read your post is perhaps that winmo is running the phone hotter and inhibiting battery charging. Somehow, I feel as though I'm grasping at straws...
'Force' and 'lithium-ion battery' should probably never be in the same sentence.
The flashing LED is an indication of overheating, thus the system stops charging until the temperature drops.
Try charging it someplace cooler.
If that doesn't work, the a method I read about is to run the phone until it totally flattens the battery, then put it on a full charge for at least 4 hours.
fred_up said:
The flashing LED is an indication of overheating, thus the system stops charging until the temperature drops.
Try charging it someplace cooler.
If that doesn't work, the a method I read about is to run the phone until it totally flattens the battery, then put it on a full charge for at least 4 hours.
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or, turn the phone off while charging will help keep it cooler as well.
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or, turn the phone off while charging will help keep it cooler as well.
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Darn, I knew I forgot something
I have one original battery which the phone came with, and THREE oem chinese batteries which look exactly the same, except for the lower barcode which is tinier than the one on the original battery.
I only charge them outside of the phone, with an ac mains charger, and they go to full 100% since it's what the phone say when I switch them.
Whenever I charge them in the phone (only time it happens is when I'm in my car and use the lighter charger) it's just math, they end up in the green-orange led loop, and they stop charging.
It's well known and it's related to overheating, but at least they do not drop as well, which means I can go on and use them for gps navigation or any other task and the battery will stay at the percentage at which I left it.
I also have the same behaviour of OP, that is, taskbar icon says the battery is 100% and NOT charging, info panel after tapping taskbar reports real percentage, S2U2 reports real percentage in green, which means S2U2 sees it as charging. Anyway, as soon as I go home, I wait for the battery to drain to at least 10%, switch it out and slap it into the mains charger.
My oem batteries last up to 3 days.
I have the official HTC extended battery and with the latest chucky rom i have been using it wont charge in the phone anymore. It always used to with no problems. There is something missing software wise that prevents it from charging.
optiknerv said:
I have the official HTC extended battery and with the latest chucky rom i have been using it wont charge in the phone anymore. It always used to with no problems. There is something missing software wise that prevents it from charging.
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Is the middle pin of the battery contacts bent or different to the others?
The green/amber flashing means "charging problem" which can be due to overheating, but also can be due to an incompatible battery.
When I got my HD2 with the original O2 ROM, the HTC large capacity battery wasn't compatible, this required a ROM update.
If you're running stock, make sure you've got the latest ROM.
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Is the middle pin of the battery contacts bent or different to the others?
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Nope it seems fine. It charges the standard battery ok.
As I said im running Chucky ROM. I had something like 21st July chucky ROM on and it charged. Update to the 11th August ROM and it wont charge. Tried the 5th August the same. Havent had chance to go back to the 21st July one to check.
Incidentally I dont have green amber flashing lights. I have alternate Green and Red flashing.
The battery charges perfectly well in my desk charger and runs the phone fine it just wont charge in the phone.
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I'm running a Sprint Mogul using no2chem's nueROM 2.2 Preview 7 (8's touchscreen issues made me downgrade), and having some very peculiar battery problems I'm hoping someone has advice about.
A few weeks ago I woke up, pulled my phone from the charger, and watched the battery instantly drop from 100% to around 83%. Over the next 15 minutes it dropped to the mid-70s before leveling out and discharging at a more normal rate. This occurred the next day and so on. Now this was with Seidio's 3200mAh extended battery. I then switched to my (sigh) OEM battery and didn't have the same problem, so assumed it was Seidio's battery, filled out an RMA, and sent it off to be repaired.
Now a couple of days ago the OEM battery started doing the same thing. I'd pull it off the charge and it would have somewhere in the range of 60% battery remaining. I'd have to plug it into my car charger or USB cable on my notebook to charge it up the rest of the way (albeit very slowly).
This morning I decided to watch the process from before I even unplugged it. First I noticed the orange light was on after a full night's charge. If memory serves me, the light's supposed to go out when it's at 100% (I may be mistaken). Meanwhile the battery meter was at 60%. I unplugged it and it remained there. I plugged it back in and watched no2chem's charge meter show the power connection, and I went ahead and left it plugged in for a little while before checking it again. It was now at 63%.
So what I'm finding is that at some point during the night my phone stops accepting a charge, despite the charge light remaining on.
I'm going to experiment with two things to further troubleshoot: tonight I'm swapping chargers with my wife's. I'm pretty sure the phone controls whether or not it's continuing to charge the battery, but I'm going to rule this out the only way I can. Then if that doesn't improve it I'm going to flash back to a Sprint official ROM (sigh) and see if maybe no2chem's power applet or power management settings are somehow causing this oddity.
Does anyone have any extra experiences with problems like this that might give me an idea of what else to try? Otherwise my thinking is if those two steps yield no improvements, then it's the phone's physical battery management hardware that's faulty and I'm going to have to use my insurance to replace the phone. I'd like to exhaust all the other resources before I spend the $50 on the deductible, though.
Thanks!
sometimes mine overheats while charging, at that point the LED flashes orange until it cools down enough to resume charging, this might be happening to your in the middle of the night
I thought I heard purple meant overheating. Either way, it's not clearly describing it. Also this has never happened before, so if it's happening every single night now, I've definitely got a problem.
Anyway, just plugged it in with my wife's charger. Let's see how it turns out in the morning.
You said :
"I'd have to plug it into my car charger or USB cable on my notebook to charge it up the rest of the way (albeit very slowly)."
Sure sounds like a bad charger.
worwig said:
Sure sounds like a bad charger.
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Now confirmed. Just pulled it off my wife's charger after a full night, at 100%. Five minutes later, 99%. Much better. I wonder what would cause the charger to stop charging halfway through the night, but keep the charge light on. Well, at least the mystery's been solved.
I am sort of having the same issue. A couple of weeks ago I decided to upgrade from the standard Verizon ROM for my xv6800 to DCD's 3.2.2 ROM. The upgrade went perfectly. I always plug in my phone every night before I go to bed. The light turns orange while it is charging and then it is green when I wake up. The phone always showed 100%. Now with the updated ROM, I do the same, plug in before I go to bed, the light turns orange, and it is green when I wake up. But, when I look at the battery level when I unplug it, it is usually at about 94%. The battery level also seems to go down quicker than before, but I figured that had to do with the GPS radio and WM6.1. Why do you think the battery would no longer show 100% when I unplug it? Seems very weird that right after I upgrade the ROM my battery would start failing.
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I am sort of having the same issue. A couple of weeks ago I decided to upgrade from the standard Verizon ROM for my xv6800 to DCD's 3.2.2 ROM. The upgrade went perfectly. I always plug in my phone every night before I go to bed. The light turns orange while it is charging and then it is green when I wake up. The phone always showed 100%. Now with the updated ROM, I do the same, plug in before I go to bed, the light turns orange, and it is green when I wake up. But, when I look at the battery level when I unplug it, it is usually at about 94%. The battery level also seems to go down quicker than before, but I figured that had to do with the GPS radio and WM6.1. Why do you think the battery would no longer show 100% when I unplug it? Seems very weird that right after I upgrade the ROM my battery would start failing.
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DCD roms included new code to show 1% changes. The original code showed 10% changes only. Originally, you likely saw 100%, 90%, 80% etc. Now you see 95%, 94%, 93%, etc. It seldom goes to a perfect 100% and it LOOKS like it is discharging faster. In reality it is simply showing more detail.
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DCD roms included new code to show 1% changes. The original code showed 10% changes only. Originally, you likely saw 100%, 90%, 80% etc. Now you see 95%, 94%, 93%, etc. It seldom goes to a perfect 100% and it LOOKS like it is discharging faster. In reality it is simply showing more detail.
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Yes, I noticed the 1% increments, I figured it was Windows Mobile 6.1 compared to 6.0. I think the old method was reporting in 5% blocks.
So, your battery never shows 100%? Very weird. So, my battery is probably fine and it is probably behaving just like it always has?
Thanks for the information.
Hi, i am using p3452 for 1 year. nowadays when its battery reduces to %5 or %6 it stops to charge. it means when phone is turned off it is charging mostly 2-3 min. then it doesnt charge. and sometimes when i open the phone,the icon which is on the screen tells us it is charging but orange led doesnt light. how can i do for that?
have you tried another battery, or another charger?
i tried another charger ,still same but i didnt try with another battery because i dont have. does the phone crash?
captainstu72 said:
have you tried another battery, or another charger?
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erencaner said:
i tried another charger ,still same but i didnt try with another battery because i dont have. does the phone crash?
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Not sure I understand the phone crash part? The battery could be dead though, it is possible
Just trying to get an accurate idea of what happens:
When using your phone, it turns off at about 5%/6%, so you charge, however, the charge only lasts 2-3minutes and does not provide a full charge? At which point the operating system states it is still charging, however, the phone no longer lights up orange.
Do you get a longer charge when charging via usb or mains?
When it stops showing orange, does it go green/red or anything?
absolutely is the battery. buy a new battery!
Hi again, after i had opened a topic here, i took it to service. They tried another battery, result was still same. After 3-4min it stops to charge.They told me that the board should change
ahsiang888 said:
absolutely is the battery. buy a new battery!
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Not sure I understand the phone crash part? The battery could be dead though, it is possible
Just trying to get an accurate idea of what happens:
When using your phone, it turns off at about 5%/6%, so you charge, however, the charge only lasts 2-3minutes and does not provide a full charge? At which point the operating system states it is still charging, however, the phone no longer lights up orange.
Do you get a longer charge when charging via usb or mains?
When it stops showing orange, does it go green/red or anything?
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for me it happens...when charging via usb connected to comp....it shows orange till 2% then orange goes...as soon as i remove from charge the phone switches off
if charge from wall socket...it goes green that is full charged in around 10 minutes....after i switch on the phone....its switched off in 5 mins....this is the 2nd new battery i am using
Have a TMOUS purchased in May. Latest stock rom/radio. When the battery is super low it goes through the process of shutting down - but when I plug it into the charger the phone will boot instead of staying shut down and charge. Will attempt to boot then go into Sense then shut down again and do the same process all over again. The only way to stop it is to quickly power down and it will stay down and charge. In any of the situations the phone appears to be charging.
Is this a problem with the ROM/Hardware or is something going on with the battery? Have an 8GB SD card with Android (no boot loader) and thats pretty much it.
Any advice would be appreciated.
I doubt that your battery is gone bad, but there are chances, try to condition your battery
Its just a little strange that the when the supposedly dead phone is plugged into a charger it boots up without pressing the power button. Don't think thats normal. Also when plugged into a charger when the battery is "dead" or near dead it should boot up and charge. This one doesn't - it boots - shows an LED charge light and then powers down and reboots. For some reason the battery with such a low charge can't power the phone and charge at the same time.
Will attempt to do a hard reset - maybe HD2 Tweak or something else did something to the registry and try it again. Since its under warranty will request another battery and take it from there. Don't think anything is wrong with the phone's hardware because it functions flawlessly.
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Its just a little strange that the when the supposedly dead phone is plugged into a charger it boots up without pressing the power button. Don't think thats normal. Also when plugged into a charger when the battery is "dead" or near dead it should boot up and charge. This one doesn't - it boots - shows an LED charge light and then powers down and reboots. For some reason the battery with such a low charge can't power the phone and charge at the same time.
Will attempt to do a hard reset - maybe HD2 Tweak or something else did something to the registry and try it again. Since its under warranty will request another battery and take it from there. Don't think anything is wrong with the phone's hardware because it functions flawlessly.
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If the battery drains and shuts off because it's out of juice, it WILL turn back on as soon as you plug it in, but it shouldn't keep rebooting after that...
Also if it's just shutting down on you in Android without warning when it's low, you need to condition your battery in Android so that it has the correct batterystats info.
No something is wrong. Ran it out of juice in WM this afternoon. Got the error message let it go. Went down and shut off. Plugged it into a car charger USB/cig adapter. Powered up go to tmobile screen/radio code then animation - rebooted did the same thing without touching it a few times then shut off - light led for charging did not appear.
Pulled battery - when charger disconnected - plugged charger - red light no reboot. Tried it again - same results with a hitch - it froze when it was charging - accessed internet explorer then it did a hard freeze - had to press reset button.
Don't know whats going on at this point - it shouldn't have done the freeze. So I'm going to experiement - pull the SD card (has Android on it) and try it again without the card. Try another card, try another charger and see - if I get the same results its either the phone or battery. When I have a charge greater than 5% there are never any problems. Only when battery level 0-1%.
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No something is wrong. Ran it out of juice in WM this afternoon. Got the error message let it go. Went down and shut off. Plugged it into a car charger USB/cig adapter. Powered up go to tmobile screen/radio code then animation - rebooted did the same thing without touching it a few times then shut off - light led for charging did not appear.
Pulled battery - when charger disconnected - plugged charger - red light no reboot. Tried it again - same results with a hitch - it froze when it was charging - accessed internet explorer then it did a hard freeze - had to press reset button.
Don't know whats going on at this point - it shouldn't have done the freeze. So I'm going to experiement - pull the SD card (has Android on it) and try it again without the card. Try another card, try another charger and see - if I get the same results its either the phone or battery. When I have a charge greater than 5% there are never any problems. Only when battery level 0-1%.
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Your battery pins aren't bent are they? (The little guys on the phone side that smash down when you insert the battery)
No, they are fine. I did call T-Mobile this afternoon and spoke to a level 2 tech - they think the battery is bad. Under warranty and have to call HTC tomorrow morning.
The phone does charge and does get to 100%. Drain in Windows seems fine and uniform but it does drop quickly once I get to about 20%.
Because of the reboot issue I think one of the cells is bad. Doesn't seem to want to trickle charge when the battery is that low. Tries to reboot - but can't get enough juice to sustain itself. Should just bypass through the battery as its charging. Either its the battery or somehow the charging circuitry is bad - who knows - with a new battery if it still does it then is the phone's hardware.
Will stop using Android for a while until this gets worked out - although I prefer the browser over WM 6.5.
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No, they are fine. I did call T-Mobile this afternoon and spoke to a level 2 tech - they think the battery is bad. Under warranty and have to call HTC tomorrow morning.
The phone does charge and does get to 100%. Drain in Windows seems fine and uniform but it does drop quickly once I get to about 20%.
Because of the reboot issue I think one of the cells is bad. Doesn't seem to want to trickle charge when the battery is that low. Tries to reboot - but can't get enough juice to sustain itself. Should just bypass through the battery as its charging. Either its the battery or somehow the charging circuitry is bad - who knows - with a new battery if it still does it then is the phone's hardware.
Will stop using Android for a while until this gets worked out - although I prefer the browser over WM 6.5.
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Def sounds like a battery issue then, if the pins aren't bent because that is the biggest symptom of bent pins.
I read in one of the discussions see that one problem identified in WP7 install on HD2 is no charging when the device is off. It is referenced as a maglard issue.
However, I am facing a completely contrasting problem. I am using an extended HTC battery and since the time I have installed WP7, the device does not charge while it is switched on. I see the charging icon blinking when the phone is kept on charge, but even after hours the battery status does not change. I unplug the charger and immediately the battery warning pops up.
However, when I switch off the phone and then keep it on charge, the battery does get charged up to 25% (guesstimate by seeing the battery icon after I switch on the mobile) and the orange led light is on. The led light turns off after 15-20 minutes and the mobile does not charge any further. Also, after this, when I try to switch on the handset by pressing the power key, nothing happens. I have to take battery out, reinsert it and then switch the device on.
It is making WP7 a very unpleasant experience for me so far. I have not yet activated the Live services on the WP7 install but I do not think this could be a reason for the charging issues.
Is this a peculiar problem or is anyone else facing this issue? Can anyone tell me why this is happening? Thanks a lot in advance for your help.
As far as I am aware magldr doesn't support the extended battery. I suspect it partially charges when off while normal batteries don't is that the ext bat has some extra control circuits for the extra bit but relies on the phone to charge the rest which itcant.
I wouldn't risk keeping a battery constantly so low charged, you risk damaging it or the phone. If you must stick with wp7 I'd flash back to Wm and give the bat a good charge every few days just to be safe.
Extended bat is not yet supported on WP7 so thats why its not charging.
You should either go back to 6.5 or Android until bat drivers are made for extended bat.
i just got the phone nad first charge i charged it whe ni got it and now its dead im charging it battery is very weak compared to nexus one i had.... but is it true that if u discharge it completley and then charge it completey and repeat 3-4 times battery gets good? i also heard over a little time that battery gets way better? any one can relate to this?
Sounds like you could benefit from re-calibrating your battery. It can be done manually through recovery by resetting battery stats, or easily through an app like this one (you must be rooted).
how u do it without rooted and i heard discharging 3 times and fully charging works? any update on that
There's lots of different "methods" floating around about how to calibrate your battery, many of which actually don't make much sense. The ones that do make sense to me involve deleting the batterystats.bin file. That app TeeJay3800 linked to pretty much does just that. For rooted devices, all the ClockworkMod recoveries have an option to delete battery stats in the Advanced menu.
I think this file is located somewhere in /data but I don't know off the top of my head. I also don't know if root is required to delete this file. Maybe try finding it with Terminal Emulator and attempt to delete it. If that doesnt work, then you'll probably have to root the device (or maybe just temproot it).
yea i did it yesturday nad today its still bad about to attept 3rd charge and im waiting till it dies it went from 39% to 19% within an hour wtf is this??? im waitign till ti dies then recharge to fully
i also did this wthich is good but will it mess anything up if the phone is brand new and is charging fine
Connect the phone to the charger with the phone powered on, and allow the phone to charge until the notification LED is green, indicating the device is fully charged.
Disconnect the phone from the charger, and power it off.
Reconnect the phone to the charger with the phone powered off, and allow the phone to charge until the notification LED is green.
Disconnect the phone from the charger and power it on.
Once the phone is powered completely on, power it off again and reconnect it to the charger until the notification LED is green.
Disconnect the phone, power it on, and use it. You need to use this sequence only once.
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Connect the phone to the charger with the phone powered on, and allow the phone to charge until the notification LED is green, indicating the device is fully charged.
Disconnect the phone from the charger, and power it off.
Reconnect the phone to the charger with the phone powered off, and allow the phone to charge until the notification LED is green.
Disconnect the phone from the charger and power it on.
Once the phone is powered completely on, power it off again and reconnect it to the charger until the notification LED is green.
Disconnect the phone, power it on, and use it. You need to use this sequence only once.
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This is "bump charging" and all it does is try to fill up your battery as much as possible. It's like topping off at the gas station. It won't do much as far as battery calibration. You may see a minor improvement in battery life after a bump charge, but you'll have to do it each time you charge.
Keep in mind that battery life is dependent on many factors, including your usage pattern. Improving battery life is a matter of being mindful and selective about what connections you leave open (bluetooth, GPS, WiFi, account sync) and what apps you let run. Screen usage plays a role as well. Network signal strength also plays a part, but that's not something you can control. Don't use taskillers, they cause more problems than they solve.
I'm assuming you're still on the stock ROM. If that's the case, you should be aware that there's lots of extra stuff on there that runs in the background to support the HTC Sense overlay. The biggest improvement in battery for me was (a) flashing a custom ROM without all that junk on it and (b) flashing a custom kernel which both underclocks the CPU and uses lower voltage settings.
If after all these considerations you still think your battery is borked, head over to a T-Mobile store. They may give just you a new one, otherwise it'll probably cost you not very much.