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Questions about Froyo...

So I have rooted my N1 and have cyanogen, when froyo comes out and I decide i want to try it out, do i have to upload the original rom and then upgrade? or what is the best way to do it? so i can go back to cyanogen if i decide i like it better? trying to keep it as simple as possible...Thanks!!!

You don't have to do anything. It will come out as an OTA, Cyanogen will get his hands on it immediately if not a few days before the release and it will be incorporated into his ROM. You will likely have an updated version from him based on Froyo including all his extra goodies before the stock OTA is even 100% rolled out [they usually do it over a couple days].

spectrum21 said:
So I have rooted my N1 and have cyanogen, when froyo comes out and I decide i want to try it out, do i have to upload the original rom and then upgrade? or what is the best way to do it? so i can go back to cyanogen if i decide i like it better? trying to keep it as simple as possible...Thanks!!!
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FroYo will be released in June.
Google I/O is next Wednesday.
http://code.google.com/events/io/2010/
2.2 will be leaked next Wednesday.
We will get it.
And laugh at people who haven't rooted.
P.S. Is it just me or does this question come up a lot? And probably will increase over the next few days/weeks...

Paul22000 said:
FroYo will be released in June.
Google I/O is next Wednesday.
http://code.google.com/events/io/2010/
2.2 will be leaked next Wednesday.
We will get it.
And laugh at people who haven't rooted.
P.S. Is it just me or does this question come up a lot? And probably will increase over the next few days/weeks...
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Where do you get June from? I'm just curious because I clicked the link and I didn't see it.

ChillRays said:
Where do you get June from? I'm just curious because I clicked the link and I didn't see it.
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From Adobe. Check this out:
http://blogs.adobe.com/conversations/2010/04/moving_forward.html
We look forward to delivering Flash Player 10.1 for Android smartphones as a public preview at Google I/O in May, and then a general release in June. From that point on, an ever increasing number and variety of powerful, Flash-enabled devices will be arriving which we hope will provide a great landscape of choice.
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Flash requires 2.2, so a "general release" in June would mean that 2.2 would arrive sometime before then or concurrently.
Either way, we (rooters) will get both much, much earlier.

Thanks paul. I hope theres a ton of youtube videos that come from that convention.
I hope froyo has this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ae01yz5z99E
Also if you get bored, watch that video over again with closed captoning, very funny =)

I doubt google is bundling Flash with the AOSP code. That would mean adobe is making flash open source(not happening) or google is locking up android(not happening). With all the talk about decoupling the android OS, the chances of something like a video player being bundled to the main OS update happening are very very very minute.

Flash will be a separate .apk, but the OS will need the frameworks to support it.

Paul22000 said:
FroYo will be released in June.
Google I/O is next Wednesday.
http://code.google.com/events/io/2010/
2.2 will be leaked next Wednesday.
We will get it.
And laugh at people who haven't rooted.
P.S. Is it just me or does this question come up a lot? And probably will increase over the next few days/weeks...
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Just wondering why you say that 2.2 will be leaked during the I/O?

paulk_ said:
Just wondering why you say that 2.2 will be leaked during the I/O?
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It irritates me because he states it as a blatant fact, where it should be said as something less direct. It is a possibility.. but it isn't exactly set in stone to happen - especially with how Google has been so closed about this release.
Froyo being leaked would be a god send, but I won't be holding my breath, simply to be suffocated at the end.

Why do you guys think flash requires 2.2? It comes incorporated into 2.2 but if you have 2.1 you will be able to install the apk and be good. Adobe said flash is coming to android 2.0 and above.
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p-slim said:
Why do you guys think flash requires 2.2? It comes incorporated into 2.2 but if you have 2.1 you will be able to install the apk and be good. Adobe said flash is coming to android 2.0 and above.
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It requires 2.2. For a laugh I tried the flashplayer apk on my stock 2.1 installation and the package failed.

so will my rooted nexus still get the 2.2 froyo when it comes out? or do I have to relock it.
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mduber said:
so will my rooted nexus still get the 2.2 froyo when it comes out? or do I have to relock it.
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Lord, how many people are going to ask this question?

ChillRays said:
Lord, how many people are going to ask this question?
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Oh you have no idea. When 2.2 launches there is going to be a LANDSLIDE of "OMG why dont i haev over the air update!?!?!" threads.

Read mang read... this thread only has 2pages
mduber said:
so will my rooted nexus still get the 2.2 froyo when it comes out? or do I have to relock it.
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mortzz said:
It requires 2.2. For a laugh I tried the flashplayer apk on my stock 2.1 installation and the package failed.
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so you have the froyo leak and the flash apk, and you are confirming that flash will not work on 2.1? if this is the case the people in the ppcgeek forum waiting for the evo and the incredible forum are going to be highly upset until their phone is rooted.

p-slim said:
so you have the froyo leak and the flash apk, and you are confirming that flash will not work on 2.1? if this is the case the people in the ppcgeek forum waiting for the evo and the incredible forum are going to be highly upset until their phone is rooted.
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Yep, at least not in its current state.
(That's what they get for buying SenseUI!)

its going to suck having to load everything back on to my phone, since this isn't a cyanogen update we will have to wipe everything. then its going to suck when cyanogen comes out with his rom a week or 2 later then we will have to wipe everything again to load cyanogen rom

mortzz said:
Oh you have no idea. When 2.2 launches there is going to be a LANDSLIDE of "OMG why dont i haev over the air update!?!?!" threads.
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I credit this to the lack of good stickies in this forum. Ok maybe I should change the word "good" to "useful" stickies. But there really should be a good Q&A sticky to answer everybody's question so that they don't ask it again in a new thread. For example: how many posts have you seen recently that ask "how do I root my phone?".. not many (unless its people panicing because they think they've bricked their phone) and thats because of that sticky at the top. I'm sure Paul will put together a guide (someday) and it will be at the top in no time.
Mod edit: I will pass your suggestion to the responsible forum mods.

Galaxy S Already Getting 2.2 Update Tonight @ Midnight

World Release! Android 2.2 FROYO on the Samsung Galaxy S. Tomorrow 12 o'clock'. AMSTERDAM
twitter.com/SamsungFirmware
At the look of this I suspect that getting 2.2 sent OTA for the Vibrant shouldn't be too far behind.

This is awesome, I heard the vibrant is supposed to get froyo early august. I am impressed with samsung, they are ready stepping up.

Do you think we would still get the update if we rooted the vibrant?

rbtady said:
Do you think we would still get the update if we rooted the vibrant?
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I'm pretty sure read somewhere on the forums that confirmed that even if you root it, you should still receive OTA's. However, might want to find someone that could confirm that. I'm about to go pick up my Vibrant, im so excited!

rbtady said:
Do you think we would still get the update if we rooted the vibrant?
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I don't see why rooting should stop you from getting the update.
If you have done more than just rooting, then I'm assuming you might have trouble getting the OTA update. Maybe someone more knowledgeable can chime in.
EDIT: By "more than just rooting", I mean if you have installed a custom bootloader or a custom rom.

Cool beans!

rbtady said:
Do you think we would still get the update if we rooted the vibrant?
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Yeah, but if you install it, you will lose root. There will be a modified rom that's rooted VERY shortly after it is released though (Probably before many get the OTA update).

Wow, that was quick! Glad to see Samsung is following through with their promise and fast.
Hopefully the Vibrant will get a release in early August.

if this also includes a GPS fix, i'll be picking up a vibrant within the next week or two... after i pay AT&T my last payment on that contract. whoo!!
(first time poster, but i've been reading these forums non-stop since the release of the galaxy s phones)

Pardon my dyslexia but world release does that mean everyone? lol
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futuralabs87 said:
Pardon my dyslexia but world release does that mean everyone? lol
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Hope so! though t mobile will want to get their hands on it before we see an OTA, of course once a vibrant/captive compatible version hits the internet, we will see a flash ready in no time.

great news!

lol. saw this thread and looked at my twitter tab and the tweet was there waiting for me.
awesome. too bad this isn't for the vibrant. right? just the international?

Non OTA related
This is not official in any capacity. How is this related to OTA release when feed is hosted by samsung-firmware.webs ?

This is so awesome thanks for the info.
SAMSUNG BEAST VIBRANT ™ XDA APP

there should be no reason for those who rooted to not recieve an ota update. however, if you flashed a custom kernal/radio then those ota's might've been disabled.

Anyone noticed this?
http samsung-firmware.webs.com/apps/blog/entries/show/4360690-coming-soon-vibrant-captivate-
Looks like there is already a newer version firmware for vibrant. Mine is JFD. The latest on that page is JFE. Or, that's just a demo page...
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mrxela said:
This is not official in any capacity. How is this related to OTA release when feed is hosted by samsung-firmware.webs ?
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Good point.
They do seem to have this screen shot on their front page. Don't know what to make of it.
http://samsung-firmware.webs.com/screenshot_16.png

dublued said:
Good point.
They do seem to have this screen shot on their front page. Don't know what to make of it.
http://samsung-firmware.webs.com/screenshot_16.png
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There's also a disclaimer on the front page.
Note: All our firmwares are official Samsung Firmwares.
Everything you use here is on your own risk!
What we do is collect all firmwares and give support with our guides and forums.
So it looks like they have access to leaked firmwares or something.

More info:
http://samsung-firmware.webs.com/apps/blog/entries/show/4374375-hot-galaxy-s-android-2-2-

OTA UVKA6 Update

Whats goin on here? ppl dont seem to excited after we have been crying for it since sept. It works very well unrooted. We finally get it and i seems like nobody really cares. This is a major step forward for the dev community. Im excited to see the kernels and other mods that become available in the coming weeks because of this OTA.....Mostly im looking forward to a SuperF ROM from Ben Buchacher. (Just My Pref..dont care too much for CM or TW very much)

wow! I didn't know this! how do you flash it??
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if ur phone is rooted, u have to Odin back to Stock JFD frimware then open KIES Mini on ur computer and follow the directions...The Official froyo is called UVKA6

1. most people were satisfied when leaks started popping up
2. most people are waiting on samsung to release the 2.2 source (which samsung has 60 days to do so)

I think people were simply pissed at the audacity of the companies to hang us out to dry. Or we would have taken it up the ace had we not had these unofficial releases. I believe they felt abandoned and jerked around by a company they invested money in... so while i am glad they finally give an ounce of support i am happy running nero. And don't much care for stock i am excited to see how this affects our custom roms though!
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Ben Buchacher? Is he a dev? Is he on xda?
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boimarc89 said:
if ur phone is rooted, u have to Odin back to Stock JFD frimware then open KIES Mini on ur computer and follow the directions...The Official froyo is called UVKA6
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What? Why? That's terrible advice.
If you already know how to odin, why not just odin directly to KA6?
That's way easier than going back to go forward. 5 minutes work, no loss of data.
Is their some reason you are suggesting doing it your way?

anthonys2r said:
1. most people were satisfied when leaks started popping up
2. most people are waiting on samsung to release the 2.2 source (which samsung has 60 days to do so)
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+1 most of us here weren't so much worried about the rom as we were the source code. When samsung releases it we expect the devs to have major improvements on the custom roms.
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Updating to the Official 2.2 release has more of an impact on the millions of users who aren't on XDA. I was frustrated while I was on stock 2.1 mainly due to some issues with the bluetooth stack and some other quirks that Samsung put in. But I have finally rooted and customized my Vibrant (Nero5), so I am quite happy and don't want to deal with the headache that is minikies.
The only thing that I think I am missing on a custom ROM is audio out support for my Samsung Home Dock, but it isn't enough for me to try the official release at this point, because:
a) I don't know for certain that the feature is there
b) Not convinced that Samsung got it right.
Does anyone know of a list of features and bug fixes that are included in this release from T-Mobile beyond what is included in the general 2.2 update?

anthonys2r said:
1. most people were satisfied when leaks started popping up
2. most people are waiting on samsung to release the 2.2 source (which samsung has 60 days to do so)
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Where did you hear that source is being released in 60 days?

Source release is legally required by the GPL (GNU Public License), which the Linux Kernel uses. Android uses said kernel. There is also the Apache license for Android, which has certain requirements.

lexluthor said:
What? Why? That's terrible advice.
If you already know how to odin, why not just odin directly to KA6?
That's way easier than going back to go forward. 5 minutes work, no loss of data.
Is their some reason you are suggesting doing it your way?
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Updating from a stock image and wiping your data can eliminate any weird quirks you may have... at least that is what I have experienced.

zharptitza said:
Source release is legally required by the GPL (GNU Public License), which the Linux Kernel uses. Android uses said kernel. There is also the Apache license for Android, which has certain requirements.
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So how come source for 2.1 was never released for our Vibrants? Or was it?

Dougefresh91 said:
So how come source for 2.1 was never released for our Vibrants? Or was it?
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It was released back on July 30, 2010.

I am very happy that froyo is here, now or at least soon the devs can optimize the kernal uv/oc and such. I won't be flashing stock on as nero is so much better. The thing is Samsung has left a bitter taste in my mouth, a little communication with its customers would have gone a long way. As it is the release of froyo seems as much a PR move as a delivery of a long over due promise. Got to think long and hard about any Samsung perchase in the future.

Nothing to be excited about. Im satisfied now. Theres nothing to rave about...
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N8ter said:
Nothing to be excited about. Im satisfied now. Theres nothing to rave about...
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Well said. Froyo didn't bring anything great to my wife's vibrant, but I'm finally relieved it's been officially released for us. My vibrant won't use the official release ever.
Glad to see the development section picking up again!
Sent from my <tw> powered vibrant.

lexluthor said:
What? Why? That's terrible advice.
If you already know how to odin, why not just odin directly to KA6?
That's way easier than going back to go forward. 5 minutes work, no loss of data.
Is their some reason you are suggesting doing it your way?
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i odined to stock because plugging the phone into KIES Mini while its rooted makes it say unregistered device....The way i described is for updating thru KIES. Im leavin my phone stock until SuperF for Vibrant comes out or CM. i wasnt feelin TW rom too much even tho i tried it a bunch of times

bosslabs said:
Ben Buchacher? Is he a dev? Is he on xda?
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Yes he was a Dev from the MyTouch 3G forum and he was the maker of SuperD (Donut), SuperE (Eclair), and SuperF (Froyo) Roms. He has a Vibrant since the begnning but was holding off untill Samsung releases official 2.2 and source code. Me personally, i liked his ROMS better than i did CM ROMS

boimarc89 said:
i odined to stock because plugging the phone into KIES Mini while its rooted makes it say unregistered device....The way i described is for updating thru KIES. Im leavin my phone stock until SuperF for Vibrant comes out or CM. i wasnt feelin TW rom too much even tho i tried it a bunch of times
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Yes, but there's no reason for the middle stepy of odin'ing back to JFD or JI6. Just ODIN right to KA6 and you ARE stock again.

Gingerbread is out for Tellus Fascinate.

Android 2.3 Gingerbread Available for the Telus Samsung Fascinate 3G+ - http://t.co/UrXxaRN #android

Is it rootable?

I don't think it will be rootable til someone makes a rom out of it. Should be shortly if people are still making roms for it. Mine is Verizon Fascinate. No Gingerbread yet.
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Hopefully this means jt1134 can tear it apart and get something useful out of it
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Me too. 8)

jt do your thang, excited and can't wait. maybe finally have gb for fascinate that totally works. fingers crossed.

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jt do your thang, excited and can't wait. maybe finally have gb for fascinate that totally works. fingers crossed.
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The Telus and VZW Fascinate share similarities in mostly just name. GSM vs CDMA, it's not going to be of much help.

J Shed said:
The Telus and VZW Fascinate share similarities in mostly just name. GSM vs CDMA, it's not going to be of much help.
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Everything is entirely different, yea sure minus calculator.....

is this update on Kies? is it safe? doesn't lock anything out?

a2000rick said:
is this update on Kies? is it safe? doesn't lock anything out?
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Yep its an update over kies. Yea it is safe, but someone did suggest they had a problem with frying SDcards. I only read that posted by one person about the telus update. I don't know if it is the case.
Well it will bring your phone to stock, so you will loose things like custom recovery, root, or anything else that normally don't come with stock.
Currently there is a method to gain root again, not as simple as the oneclick method, but not really any more difficult either. Clockworkmod is not available yet, but I doubt it will be long before something is available.
You need to be on stock froyo from telus to update, I disabled lagfix, and unrooted when I done mine. Not sure if both were required, but I did it anyways.
Hope this helps.
-Maniac

Hmm, I might wait a bit then. What I really want is CM anyway so I wouldn't want to hurt my chances/make it harder getting it when/if it comes out.

New ICS leak, but is the at&t model :-(

http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/03/ice-cream-sandwich-leaks-for-samsung-galaxy-note/
Also the release is an exe... Which I'd a bit odd...
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Be it a factory rom, or a cooked rom, personally, I'm staying away from ICS until sammy releases one. Then the cooks can have at it. I wouldn't dare put a beta or leaked rom on my device. I depend on it too much to brick it.
Glad the bleeding edge guys are out there, but I don't have time to screw around with anything but an official (or cooked from official) rom.

p51d007 said:
Be it a factory rom, or a cooked rom, personally, I'm staying away from ICS until sammy releases one. Then the cooks can have at it. I wouldn't dare put a beta or leaked rom on my device. I depend on it too much to brick it.
Glad the bleeding edge guys are out there, but I don't have time to screw around with anything but an official (or cooked from official) rom.
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Same here......

yeah, me too.
Though that one appears to have the premium apps on it, would be interesting to see those show up as downloadable APK's

The leak doesnt have the premium apps, but otherwise seems to be working fine.. How did the at.t model get a leak so fast.. Where is our next leak?
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So is not possible to extract the kernel? Just wondering
And it sucks that is not out yet for the int version hopefully this means that we will soon get it?
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j_tag said:
The leak doesnt have the premium apps, but otherwise seems to be working fine.. How did the at.t model get a leak so fast.. Where is our next leak?
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You sure about that... ? The smemo app looks different and I know that's one of the premium features...
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Why are the system icons still green? I want the ICS blue!

j_tag said:
The leak doesnt have the premium apps, but otherwise seems to be working fine.. How did the at.t model get a leak so fast.. Where is our next leak?
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bell told that final ICS for North America will come mid april - seems true ...
seems that non adroid 4 phone in gadget coutry (US) will not sell at all ... so this is why pushing the ICS so fast.

darkmax1974 said:
Why are the system icons still green? I want the ICS blue!
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You will not get pure ICS from Sammy. Period. They have to bloat it with TW.

I skipped the at&t version so I wouldnt wait forever for ICS and then this happens..I don't count the chinese leak so technically we havent even had one yet.

MrDSL said:
I skipped the at&t version so I wouldnt wait forever for ICS and then this happens..I don't count the chinese leak so technically we havent even had one yet.
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Same boat like you. And I find it really strange and odd that AT&T version is starting to see real leaks and not the Original Samsung Note. Unless samsung is taking its time so they can release a good product. My understanding is that the AT&T leak has nothing special at all.

I thought the ICS for the Note wasn't going to come until late May/early June?

We should be able to tell from this release what Samsung will have changed/messed up from the ics vanilla

darkmax1974 said:
Why are the system icons still green? I want the ICS blue!
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Blue burns out AMOLED faster than green. Just FYI... The blue status icons from my old captivate left burn-in images after a couple of months.
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Did anyone think to consider that Samsung may be just as far along (if not further) with officially releasing ICS for the N7000? I mean, we're talking about a "leak" here, which means a Samsung insider had to have "leaked" the build.
I guess what I'm saying is, the N7000 team may just be less leaky than the AT&T Note team. We'll get ICS when we get it.
I just hope someone can cook a ROM that uses tablet mode... Maybe take elements of the 7.7 HC build and port them over to the ICS Note?

It doesnt matter to me really since I love this phone and wouldnt want another with a smaller screen..
Although it would be nice to have some kind of leak..Maybe I could finally have netflix on ICS..

p51d007 said:
Be it a factory rom, or a cooked rom, personally, I'm staying away from ICS until sammy releases one. Then the cooks can have at it. I wouldn't dare put a beta or leaked rom on my device. I depend on it too much to brick it.
Glad the bleeding edge guys are out there, but I don't have time to screw around with anything but an official (or cooked from official) rom.
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I agree also...

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