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Samsung to update all the Galaxy S line to Gingerbread

Its official. They will begin with the European phones at mid month (arent we there already?) and then move on to the American phones. I'm guessing we'll see a leak in about a month.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/16/official-samsung-galaxy-s-and-galaxy-tab-getting-gingerbread-up/

Samsung has said that they'd step up their game with it comes to updates, and T-Mobile said they'd help push out updates faster.
I honestly think we may have a official release by the end of the month to early june.

Longcat14 said:
Samsung has said that they'd step up their game with it comes to updates, and T-Mobile said they'd help push out updates faster.
I honestly think we may have a official release by the end of the month to early june.
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Thats a lil hopeful imo, i dont expect anything until july/august at the earliest as far as a full build is concerned.

shreddintyres said:
Thats a lil hopeful imo, i dont expect anything until july/august at the earliest as far as a full build is concerned.
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Well, I really can be hopeful, since I'll also have the NS4G (getting it today), if they don't release it, I'll just play around with GB on the NS4G, and when the Vibrant gets GB, I'll have 2 amazing phones (not like the Vibrant isn't amazing now, but just not taking full advantage of it's hardware).

This is great news! Hopefully they do step up their software updates and push it out or leak it faster than we expect.

anthonys2r said:
This is great news! Hopefully they do step up their software updates and push it out or leak it faster than we expect.
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Hell, I'd rather take a leak, so that our amazing dev's can create working ROM's out of them.

Yeah a leak would come in handy. We'd get new roms and maybe some stuff fixed in CM7/MIUI. The Epic 4G had a leak not too long ago and i think there looking at another leak that one of the dev groups has. The ones that got us our leaks here in the vibrant section were Eugene373 and Krylon360, and their both gone. =(

Good news indeed... Lets just hope a leak comes early.
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Ericson4292 said:
Good news indeed... Lets just hope a leak comes early.
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*cough* leak tomorrow *cough*
I hope someone from Samsung reads this message.

Will it come to galaxy sl as well??
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thats the best news ive heard all week!!! ty so much!!!!!!! And i thought i would never see gb on this phone..

All I want is a leak so devs can make a GB rom with great battery life and stability.

Yay! can't wait to get GB

Guys, once we get this... think about it..
CM7 will be officially done.
Miui will be officially done.
MANY new stable roms.
Vibrant section will be back up to trolling again!

xriderx66 said:
Guys, once we get this... think about it..
CM7 will be officially done.
Miui will be officially done.
MANY new stable roms.
Vibrant section will be back up to trolling again!
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Binary roms will not help CM7 and miui roms with GPS because of the way Samsung calls on the GPS as compared to the way aosp calls on the GPS. This has been stated many times over, and yet still gets swept under the rug.
Even after the *kernel* source is released, it still contains nothing about GPS source.
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geoffcorey said:
Binary roms will not help CM7 and miui roms with GPS because of the way Samsung calls on the GPS as compared to the way aosp calls on the GPS. This has been stated many times over, and yet still gets swept under the rug.
Even after the *kernel* source is released, it still contains nothing about GPS source.
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GPS will probably never work for EVERYONE on the Vibrant... so might as well let it go and wait for some dev to make a mod that makes it work like Heathen's GPS fixes.
I was saying that GB would open completely new doors.
GB could help complete MIUI and CM7, as they are all Gingerbread based.
Even if it is AOSP, they have to use the things that Samsung gives.

geoffcorey said:
Binary roms will not help CM7 and miui roms with GPS because of the way Samsung calls on the GPS as compared to the way aosp calls on the GPS. This has been stated many times over, and yet still gets swept under the rug.
Even after the *kernel* source is released, it still contains nothing about GPS source.
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Very sad to read this. I was also under the impression that we'd likely have an official and fully functional Cyanogenmod build.
Oh well. Stock GB will be awesome enough if they release it.
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This GPS issue is really unfortunate. We should just have Samsung open source it..

Let's sit back and enjoy the news about Kies-bricked phones (again).

[I9000M] Bell Gingerbread Update coming Early summer

For your information
Bell will be releasing the update early summer for our dearly beloved device!
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woo hoo!

Good to hear that they are going to keeping the phone up to date. I switched to custom ROMs months ago and haven't looked back. ;-)
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I'm on JVP but I will switch back to stock for I9000m when it's out.
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Ah, this is what I've been watching for. I would like to know what they mean by "early summer", though - we're already 2 1/2 weeks into summer.
Would have been nice if they'd ever released the 2.2.1 update, but anyway, I guess I'll probably stop pursuing FW flashing for now, since updated stock was mostly what I wanted. Then again, I would like to root and do so other stuff...
Thanks for the heads-up.

Thanks for letting us know! The wait since official release of Gingerbread for Galaxy S was rather long and I was tempted to just go for Cyanogen Mod, but the advantage of stock firmware is the full hardware support.
Besides some of the apps from Samsung such as the music player, video player, the camera... are pretty good (and not available for CM7). Also I quite like that a Canadian version of swype is included in the stock fw (can we get that on CM7?)
Of course I don't like the bloatware that Bell includes, and there's a lot to like about CM7 such as the wiimote support, lots of small improvements & settings, the original gingerbread look & feel...
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I hope it's 2.3.4 so we don't suffer from the battery drain.
I don't mind the bloatware since it's minimal, and stock rom is the only place I can find my beloved french-canadian swype
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Awww... I was about to give up waiting for it and flash Faryaab's F1 Galaxy S2 V6 ... the video made it look amazing!
To wait or not to wait ... that is the question!

YAY glad i held of flashing for this long. Will go Official and see how it works. I want it mainly for drivers and CSC as i love using DOC's ROM. Hopefully he will add some of the new features to the kitchen if not already there.

bossman74 said:
I don't mind the bloatware since it's minimal, and stock rom it's the only place I can find my beloved french-canadian swype
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I think the same!
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Yea french canadian swype is must have, I don't want to see an azerty anymore!
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Nice I'll wait for this now as well, heck I held off GB for this long what's a few more weeks. Realized yesterday I have over a month of uptime right now with 2.2.1 JS8, so no hurry to switch.
What made me a bit nervous about custom GB is flashing the bootloaders. It doesn't seem like there's a problem with ones from other regions but with official release so close I might as well wait, go back to to a stock Bell 2.2 ROM and flash the GB bootloaders the 'right' way.
Also kernels and the like for 2.3 seem to be just maturing, I love speedmod with BLN and CWM on my phone right now. Seems like everything but BLN is in speedmod for GB now maybe it will come soon.

we're already in early summer...
i wonder though how much of an improvement it would be over JVQ if at all. I held out sooo long from flashing with ODIN but couldn't stand the lag of 2.2 and flashed JVP and then JVQ a couple of weeks ago; 2.3.4 JVQ seems much quicker than KC1.

mk_ln said:
we're already in early summer...
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Well like I've read in some comments on MobileSyrup, summer is 3 months. Early summer is June 21 to July 20th, Mid summer would be July 21 to August 20 and late summer would be August 21 to September 20. We still have 2 other weeks of Early summer then.

mk_ln said:
we're already in early summer...
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I wouldn't expect it before at least july 14th.
On that date, the SGS2 will be available at Bell stores ... with GB already loaded.
It wouldn't make sense for them to make GB available for the SGS before the SGS2 comes out IMHO...

haloimplant said:
Also kernels and the like for 2.3 seem to be just maturing, I love speedmod with BLN and CWM on my phone right now. Seems like everything but BLN is in speedmod for GB now maybe it will come soon.
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See that's why held off going to GB, my phone is in the best state it could be in and having anything less is unacceptable. Gingerbread has come a long way since released by Samsung but still not like the Froyo we have today and all the features/enhancements the devs has made.

bossman74 said:
I hope it's 2.3.4 so we don't suffer from the battery drain.
I don't mind the bloatware since it's minimal, and stock rom is the only place I can find my beloved french-canadian swype
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Yeah... I definitely worried about that too. It needs to be 2.3.4!
I can't wait for the update, but hopefully they do it right and not effff up things royally like the Froyo FW that killed many Internal SDs... (including mine)

Pfft, Im glad I didnt wait for official releases, takes donkeys ages to roll them out, I would have wanted to toss this phone if I was stuck on Froyo all this time

and we continue to patiently wait?

bossman74 said:
I hope it's 2.3.4 so we don't suffer from the battery drain.
I don't mind the bloatware since it's minimal, and stock rom is the only place I can find my beloved french-canadian swype
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I modded a JVP rom with an updated Swype keyboard with fr-CA support if you are interested.

Galaxy Note ICS Leak Tomorrow (Sammobile)

Danny D from Sammobile
Hopefully a good answer by insiders tomorrow. till now nothing.
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expect the leak to happen soon!!
http://www.sammobile.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3389&page=23&p=22904&viewfull=1#post22904

vickysud said:
Danny D from Sammobile
expect the leak to happen soon!!
http://www.sammobile.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3389&page=23&p=22904&viewfull=1#post22904
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if it is true then god bless sammobile and note

Awesome News an ICS leak will definately bump NOTE sales.

Not to spoil the party or anything, but from what i read, he says that he will get an answer as to when the ICS leak will arrive. Not that it is arriving tomorrow. Either way, good news for us

says nothing about a leak tomorrow, it says hes waiting for info from an inside source tomorrow.
i think everyone is forgetting that the full ics is due to be pushed out to our Notes by Samsung before the end of march anyway, they still have a deadline of first quarter, so id see no point in installing a leak, id sooner await the official version as thanks to the great team of devs we have here theres some awesome gb roms with ics customisations anyway, once you go ics its gonna to be another long wait b4 we start seeing custom roms.

Hope that the ICS fix the rendering issues.

graemeg said:
says nothing about a leak tomorrow, it says hes waiting for info from an inside source tomorrow.
i think everyone is forgetting that the full ics is due to be pushed out to our Notes by Samsung before the end of march anyway, they still have a deadline of first quarter, so id see no point in installing a leak, id sooner await the official version as thanks to the great team of devs we have here theres some awesome gb roms with ics customisations anyway, once you go ics its gonna to be another long wait b4 we start seeing custom roms.
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Luckily I'm not you. I'm waiting for development of cm9. A true custom rom, not tweak stock rom. As long as nova works I'll be happy.
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graemeg said:
says nothing about a leak tomorrow, it says hes waiting for info from an inside source tomorrow.
i think everyone is forgetting that the full ics is due to be pushed out to our Notes by Samsung before the end of march anyway, they still have a deadline of first quarter, so id see no point in installing a leak, id sooner await the official version as thanks to the great team of devs we have here theres some awesome gb roms with ics customisations anyway, once you go ics its gonna to be another long wait b4 we start seeing custom roms.
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We need this leak so we can finish CM9, which is a custom ROM. If you want to run a bloated TouchWiz ROM that's fine with me, but the current ROMs here aren't fully customized ROMs since they're only tweaked versions of the original ROMs. CM9 will push the development further since it's built from scratch.
And when CM9 is finished we might see MIUI since MIUI is based on CM.

pfff sgs2 got again ics leak,fuuuuu

LordManhattan said:
We need this leak so we can finish CM9, which is a custom ROM. If you want to run a bloated TouchWiz ROM that's fine with me, but the current ROMs here aren't fully customized ROMs since they're only tweaked versions of the original ROMs. CM9 will push the development further since it's built from scratch.
And when CM9 is finished we might see MIUI since MIUI is based on CM.
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+1 I really like finally see CM9 and MIUI for the Note

The SGS II has had over 5 leaks of the ICS Rom. They have all progressively gotten more stable with each release / leak.
I am thinking, the NOTE will also encounter a very buggy leak and start getting better as SamMobile starts "leaking" roms.
All in all, its a good thing since it allows the CM team to probe further with solutions rather than creating them from scratch.

Guys a new firmware shows up at sammobile right now... http://www.sammobile.com/firmware/
N7000UBKK8 ...is this an ics version?
Yes they are supposed to release some info today hopefully a leak?
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GT-N7000 N7000UBKK8 ## 2012 January N7000UVCKK1 Argentina (Claro)
Doubt it, it for Argentina, prolly just another maintenance update.
androidindian said:
Guys a new firmware shows up at sammobile right now... http://www.sammobile.com/firmware/
N7000UBKK8 ...is this an ics version?
Yes they are supposed to release some info today hopefully a leak?
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You know, from the looks of it, when it was stated probably tomorrow, it seemed as if they were speaking of the ICS leak for the SGS II and sure enough, it was released when stated.
So it seems that we wont be getting one since it was in reference to the SGS II.

SAlmighty said:
GT-N7000 N7000UBKK8 ## 2012 January N7000UVCKK1 Argentina (Claro)
Doubt it, it for Argentina, prolly just another maintenance update.
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Oh yes this is a gb one...hehe
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a lot of new firmware for all the country..
N7000UBKK8, N7000JPLA1, N7000ZSLA2..
most probably the last 2.3.6 for gb update for each country n carrier. maybe after that they can focus on ICS.
Our hardware with s2 almost the same except that digitizer so that why they testing it on s2 first than later on our note.

wonsanim said:
+1 I really like finally see CM9 and MIUI for the Note
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Yes, miui gives me a semi
From the giant: Galaxy Note

nameejokerx said:
a lot of new firmware for all the country..
N7000UBKK8, N7000JPLA1, N7000ZSLA2..
most probably the last 2.3.6 for gb update for each country n carrier. maybe after that they can focus on ICS.
Our hardware with s2 almost the same except that digitizer so that why they testing it on s2 first than later on our note.
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Good Point

sprintuser1977 said:
Yes, miui gives me a semi
From the giant: Galaxy Note
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Lol. I can't wait for it either!
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nameejokerx said:
Our hardware with s2 almost the same except that digitizer so that why they testing it on s2 first than later on our note.
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It would seem so, but as has been stated in the CM9 Alpha thread some of the driver components are different, or at least the BLOBs are. This is the reason why the camera does not work there and Bluetooth is unstable. So it's not only the digitizer that has to be implemented anew. Also, if you look at the official teardown pictures from Samsung you notice that the chip manufacturer is stroke out. Many newssites speculated about whether or not this means it's not the Exynos chip working in there (or at least not the 'usual' model). But this is only a rumour, whereas the camera and the Bluetooth module are definately different.

New firmware LC2 available

Firmware available @ sammobile, unfortunately still Android 2.3.6 GB
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There still will be a cpl more firmwares to come b4 ics for sure....
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Anyway, better than none...
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We might see ICS next week. They began promoting the Note premium suit last week for Q2. Don't think they want to risk the loss of sold devices. A bunch of phones already got the update. and potential customers might go for another phone if the dont release thr update. Samsung is smart enough to know that. I think
Lets see. I say 14 days max.

offenberg said:
We might see ICS next week. They began promoting the Note premium suit last week for Q2. Don't think they want to risk the loss of sold devices. A bunch of phones already got the update. and potential customers might go for another phone if the dont release thr update. Samsung is smart enough to know that. I think
Lets see. I say 14 days max.
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dont think soe - but yes -yiu right .. so many ICS phones will come in next month ...

gtm55 said:
Anyway, better than none...
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I don't get the infatuation with updates...It could be the most solid firmware released ever and people would continue to want updates. Obviously I want ICS but who cares about another GB update?

lamou1nr said:
I don't get the infatuation with updates...It could be the most solid firmware released ever and people would continue to want updates. Obviously I want ICS but who cares about another GB update?
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I love your way of thinking!
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This is the weirdest release. Malaysia and Singapore roms release which is newer than other region/country. Normally the 2 countries will only receive crumbs from other countries. Take I9100 ICS release as example, even Indonesia has released ICS rom but not that 2 countries.
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What's new?
Any Observations guys???
Changes etc etc?

lamou1nr said:
I don't get the infatuation with updates...It could be the most solid firmware released ever and people would continue to want updates. Obviously I want ICS but who cares about another GB update?
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everything can be improved.... Talking about infatuation, you will keep first version of ICS for half a year, don't you?
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These updates are actually improving performance and stability. Previously (on kka/ la1) in Trial X game there used to be banding under tires of the bike. Now there's no banding in lc1.
I would rather prefer polished and stable gb than half arse ics.

Boy124 said:
These updates are actually improving performance and stability. Previously (on kka/ la1) in Trial X game there used to be banding under tires of the bike. Now there's no banding in lc1.
I would rather prefer polished and stable gb than half arse ics.
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Half what?
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Boy124 said:
I would rather prefer polished and stable gb than half arse ics.
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Just give us the half-arse and the source code, like they did for SGSII. Then sit back and watch imilka and kernel devs perform miracles.

Is this an OTA update for europe also?

razorhanny said:
Half what?
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British: Arse
American: Ass

LC1 in South Africa
Does anyone here knows if i can put this LC2 on my Note ...I am currently using LC1 and am based in South Africa

gurnishdhillon said:
Does anyone here knows if i can put this LC2 on my Note ...I am currently using LC1 and am based in South Africa
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nessqn said:
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No update available in SA ,, i meant can use the version that Dr Ketan has uploaded ?

Boy124 said:
These updates are actually improving performance and stability. Previously (on kka/ la1) in Trial X game there used to be banding under tires of the bike. Now there's no banding in lc1.
I would rather prefer polished and stable gb than half arse ics.
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The LC1 update fixes the weird blacks/greys that get pixelated (specially on gradients) ?
I'm still using the stock firmware release from a Brazilian carrier, was waiting ICS to change firmwares and stuff. But if these upgrades fix it, I'm interested

Just upgraded OTA. Hmm... looks like the banding issues with blacks on the lock screen wallpaper is gone. The video seems to have slightly improved. May need more people with the LC2 to justify.

Why officials ICS Rom for att and not inter

I am upset that a fully functional att version note got a fully working ITS leaked Rom before the international version did. its so unfair
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Cool story, bro.
For real though. Man up. Deal with it. Quit *****ing.
It'll come when it comes. I bet you never experienced the ordeal with the samsung infuse getting gingerbread
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Or the ordeal I had to deal with getting Froyo on my Samsung Epic 4G....
Besides it's a leak on AT&T. It's not even official. Who knows what problems there are still on it. Rather get a fully stable release than get a leak with bugs.

OMG a dark day in history of human kind...

Obviously Samsung feels the same cause they didn't really want to release either yet...
But seriously, leaks are random, you can't seriously be upset that what has leaked was not the one you wanted...

rp4k said:
I am upset that a fully functional att version note got a fully working ITS leaked Rom before the international version did. its so unfair
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in USA ics on phone is a must have to be compared to gayphone , too many fanboys of apple and US market need new thing ASAP. In EU there is some more serious peoples take a lok at april releases of Android LTE phones ... all with ICS

damador said:
in USA ics on phone is a must have to be compared to gayphone , too many fanboys of apple and US market need new thing ASAP. In EU there is some more serious peoples take a lok at april releases of Android LTE phones ... all with ICS
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Second that. I never understood why people are so impatient about software updates...like the Note was a completely useless garbage without ICS. Anyway, we have plenty ICS roms - even better than stock, so just flash one of them and be happy.

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what the heck are you talking about?
international version had an ICS leak ages ago. sammobile had the i9220 leak and then made an n7000 version of it, this was like a month or so ago?
and whilst the att version is functional, its not without bugs. its also missing the much anticipated premium suite.

While technically he is right there has been no leak for the n7000 just the i9220. Doesn't matter really because no phone comes close to this bad boy even without ICS..
If I wanted ICS I would have bought a Nexus Prime..

Now that definitely warrants a new ICS thread...

adelmundo said:
Or the ordeal I had to deal with getting Froyo on my Samsung Epic 4G....
Besides it's a leak on AT&T. It's not even official. Who knows what problems there are still on it. Rather get a fully stable release than get a leak with bugs.
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Actually our ICS leak is fully functional. Everything works properly, runs smoothly, and our black crush even got better. So yeah I'd say it's pretty stable. It's my daily driver.
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umm if its leaked, then its not official
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Mystic38 said:
umm if its leaked, then its not official
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MrDSL said:
While technically he is right there has been no leak for the n7000 just the i9220. Doesn't matter really because no phone comes close to this bad boy even without ICS..
If I wanted ICS I would have bought a Nexus Prime..
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Exactly...

rp4k said:
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First World Problems....

madfatter said:
First World Problems....
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So true lol.. People are having far more bigger problems in the world like hunger and so on.. And here we are.. ( myself included) .. Going trough these forums on daily basis in hope of the ICS release.
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Man... This thread is laughable to say the least... MOD, please close this thread and amalgamate into the REAL ICS discussion thread...

Reynaldinho111 said:
Cool story, bro.
For real though. Man up. Deal with it. Quit *****ing.
It'll come when it comes. I bet you never experienced the ordeal with the samsung infuse getting gingerbread
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ahaha the day after i sold my samsung infuse gb was release for it

Simple answer.
ICS on N7000 should be easier for them.
AT&T Note: Had to be modified for faster internet access so users can hit their cap faster.
China's i9220 and Intl N7000 should be about the same thing and easier todo.
And leak are just leaks, who knows how someone got access to that? Maybe we already have a fully perfect ROM for N7000 and Samsung still working out to provide roms for AT&T so ICS update can be a global thing.

Could care less
What does ICS bring to the table, other than hardware acceleration,
probably some newer apps.
The current version of GB 2.3.6 runs on my note like greased lightning.
You know good & well when ICS is released for any device, it's going to have
some of the same growing pains that GB did when it was released.
Since my Note is my business connection device, I think I'll hold off on jumping
onto the ICS bandwagon, until I know for sure it's ROCK SOLID stable.
I don't have time dealing with bugs. Thanks to you bleeding heart types though.
If it wasn't for you, we'd never be anywhere, but, I can't afford to have the
device lock up, slow down, crash etc.