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So thanks to a fat tax check clearing my bank, I can afford sinking what I consider far too much money for a phone--specifically the N1(AT&T.)
But I can't sit back and see exactly how badly the next 3 versions of android phone AT&T will release. Service wise, it's a good company, but in terms of products offered, they're in too deep with contractual obligations to get a smartphone that does what most people want. Updates are virtually non-existent unless it's an iPhone. So the more I think of it, the more likely I'll be happier doing the N1 unsub'd.
I've read a few reports on battery life and it seems that it's about the same as the iphone in terms of a day's lifespan or less. (the wife has one--traitor. ) Radio, the mileage varies based on location--normal. Rooting kills the warranty, but not all that needed--yet. None of this stuff is sending up any red flags to not pour more money into the Chocolate Factory and their uber-phone.
Anyone pick up the desktop/nightstand cradle and what do you think of it? Heard there's a car version as well that snaps into maps when the N1 is docked. Is that available, think it's worth it, where do you get it?
Edit: Oh, yeah--engraved case for free (but forfeit money back refund) What to put on that - "Give me Android AND give me FREEDOM!" lol Prob just leave that well enough alone though. (Not all that narcissistic)
Talk me in or out of it before I click the confirm button. Oh, and what's the eta for std shipping? (thinking about actually doing next day if the option is there.)
Thanks
A recommendation? Simples... do it.
Google ships all Nexus Ones overnight for free.
This is hands down the best phone I have ever owned. What's not to love about it?
Apps you want, features you want, and if it's missing anything you do want, root it and make it do whatever you want to. Google Navigation is awesome as well. It has completely replaced TomTom for me.
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So thanks to a fat tax check clearing my bank, I can afford sinking what I consider far too much money for a phone--specifically the N1(AT&T.)
But I can't sit back and see exactly how badly the next 3 versions of android phone AT&T will release. Service wise, it's a good company, but in terms of products offered, they're in too deep with contractual obligations to get a smartphone that does what most people want. Updates are virtually non-existent unless it's an iPhone. So the more I think of it, the more likely I'll be happier doing the N1 unsub'd.
I've read a few reports on battery life and it seems that it's about the same as the iphone in terms of a day's lifespan or less. (the wife has one--traitor. ) Radio, the mileage varies based on location--normal. Rooting kills the warranty, but not all that needed--yet. None of this stuff is sending up any red flags to not pour more money into the Chocolate Factory and their uber-phone.
Anyone pick up the desktop/nightstand cradle and what do you think of it? Heard there's a car version as well that snaps into maps when the N1 is docked. Is that available, think it's worth it, where do you get it?
Edit: Oh, yeah--engraved case for free (but forfeit money back refund) What to put on that - "Give me Android AND give me FREEDOM!" lol Prob just leave that well enough alone though. (Not all that narcissistic)
Talk me in or out of it before I click the confirm button. Oh, and what's the eta for std shipping? (thinking about actually doing next day if the option is there.)
Thanks
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Battery life is on par with every other smart phone I've owned (3x HTC windows mobile handsets).
I rooted my T-Mo N1, but haven't rooted my AT&T N1. The benefits really didn't warrant voiding the warranty for me (especially as you can't get insurance on the device on AT&T - I had insurance with T-Mo). I've used PDANet with Windows mobile and had no problem purchasing the Android version (although there is a free version that doesn't do HTTPS) for use to tether when I need it (infrequently when traveling).
I do have the desktop dock and like it quite a bit. It's nice not to have to plug/unplug the USB constantly - the drop in is quite convenient. It works well as a nightstand also.
The car dock is not out yet from Google.
I am happier with this phone than any other phone I've owned. Not being stuck behind a manufacturer modification (MotoBLUR or Sense) will also mean that updates shouldn't get stalled the way they do for other devices.
Go for it...you will be in heaven!
Ok, so patience ran out. I clicked the button. For S&G's I picked up the cradle for the $45 extra after all I already use my current phone as an alarm clock so might as well.
As for the car dock, it's supposedly going to be released soon, but not currently out yet. Future purchase I suppose.
Anyone want to but a pair of Epix's? (my old one and the wifes and both just had the crappy touch screen replaced over the last couple of days.)
lostsoul3471 said:
So thanks to a fat tax check clearing my bank, I can afford sinking what I consider far too much money for a phone--specifically the N1(AT&T.)
But I can't sit back and see exactly how badly the next 3 versions of android phone AT&T will release. Service wise, it's a good company, but in terms of products offered, they're in too deep with contractual obligations to get a smartphone that does what most people want. Updates are virtually non-existent unless it's an iPhone. So the more I think of it, the more likely I'll be happier doing the N1 unsub'd.
I've read a few reports on battery life and it seems that it's about the same as the iphone in terms of a day's lifespan or less. (the wife has one--traitor. ) Radio, the mileage varies based on location--normal. Rooting kills the warranty, but not all that needed--yet. None of this stuff is sending up any red flags to not pour more money into the Chocolate Factory and their uber-phone.
Anyone pick up the desktop/nightstand cradle and what do you think of it? Heard there's a car version as well that snaps into maps when the N1 is docked. Is that available, think it's worth it, where do you get it?
Edit: Oh, yeah--engraved case for free (but forfeit money back refund) What to put on that - "Give me Android AND give me FREEDOM!" lol Prob just leave that well enough alone though. (Not all that narcissistic)
Talk me in or out of it before I click the confirm button. Oh, and what's the eta for std shipping? (thinking about actually doing next day if the option is there.)
Thanks
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What phone are you using now?
Sell it and that way the $529 is much easier to think about.
I sold my G1 so my N1 was effectively only $400
Oh, of course the sale of my old POS Epix will go towards the cost of one of these. But the real question is, do I offload now or wait a couple weeks (or months at this rate) for the official WM6.5 update? Wife's is stock standard while I already have Trashcan's 6.5 installed and both will most likely hit fleabay.
I hope you have better luck than me.I had my Nexus One for 5 days,I sold it after that.....worse signal ever...it was driving crazy fluctuating all the time,losing signal.I am sure the AT&T version is better.
I called Google customer service and they told me that the N1 is searching for the strongest signal whereas the G1 is always searching for 3G,whatever....I just wanted a good phone,that's all.I was even losing signal in my bedroom,my bed is by the windows and the freaking phone was going from EDGE to 3G to no signal all the time.
I have seen a lot of comments and videos of people with the same issues.I am sure you will enjoy it the phone,it is beautiful and fast,but I did not have much luck.
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Oh, of course the sale of my old POS Epix will go towards the cost of one of these. But the real question is, do I offload now or wait a couple weeks (or months at this rate) for the official WM6.5 update? Wife's is stock standard while I already have Trashcan's 6.5 installed and both will most likely hit fleabay.
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No one wants a WM phone, and even fewer people will in a few months from now. It's a completely dead OS, with Microsoft already openly committed Windows Phone 7. You better sell as fast as you possibly can.
lordofsilence said:
I hope you have better luck than me.I had my Nexus One for 5 days,I sold it after that.....worse signal ever...it was driving crazy fluctuating all the time,losing signal.I am sure the AT&T version is better.
I called Google customer service and they told me that the N1 is searching for the strongest signal whereas the G1 is always searching for 3G,whatever....I just wanted a good phone,that's all.I was even losing signal in my bedroom,my bed is by the windows and the freaking phone was going from EDGE to 3G to no signal all the time.
I have seen a lot of comments and videos of people with the same issues.I am sure you will enjoy it the phone,it is beautiful and fast,but I did not have much luck.
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You live in a low T-Mobile coverage area. You were probably also wrapping your hand around the bottom of the phone, which would kill the signal completely in such a low coverage area.
Paul22000 said:
No one wants a WM phone, and even fewer people will in a few months from now. It's a completely dead OS, with Microsoft already openly committed Windows Phone 7. You better sell as fast as you possibly can.
You live in a low T-Mobile coverage area. You were probably also wrapping your hand around the bottom of the phone, which would kill the signal completely in such a low coverage area.
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I'm dropping WinMo for android.
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You live in a low T-Mobile coverage area. You were probably also wrapping your hand around the bottom of the phone, which would kill the signal completely in such a low coverage area.
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Could be,but this is the first time I come across this regardless of the OS or brand,no signal in my bedroom and the signal fluctuation.
The way I grab and hold the phone....well like anybody does,it is a phone there is no much to explain on how to hold it,to me this phone has been a little bit of a Google's failure,a phone is a phone...communication first,then the cool features.
After the Nexus One I bought a HTC HD2,like you said WinMo is dead I totally agree,I had it for 2 days,there are certain things that Microsoft does not do very well yet,after so many years with their freaking windows mobile it is incredible,plus sometimes you (still) kinda need the stylus and the OS still has those windows 98 looking menus and windows.
So I returned it and got the new mytouch,which is not the best,but after my last experience I think I am going to wait a year and a half until I get a cool device,specially since anything we buy these days is a battery killer.
Good or bad idea?
I'm hoping the newer batches will be fixed since Sprint/HTC is taking so long to come up with a new stock.
The hardware issues like the screen peeling and stuff, will be covered by a silicone case that I'll have I believe.
And the software issues will be fixed soon hopefully.
What do you guys think?
just get it your going to love it, dont listen to all the naysayers some people just cant be pleased. the biggest thing that people are griping about is the fps lock, which unless your very anal about gaming and have to have everything be ridiculously smooth then i guess might bother you...it certainly has no effect whatsoever on my usage of my device or even the few games ive played on it....
to me watching something in 60fps just seems so fake, like its just TOO smooth, i was playing metro 2033 the other day and with all the settings at their max @1080p resolution i average about about 35 fps...i got to this one part (its like a on rails part where you carry this kid on your back) and the frame rate just jumps to like at least double what i was getting up to like 75fps and the game was just very disorienting...like i wanted the controls to react faster, the game was so smooth that it almost seemed like it lagged behind my controls... it was pretty strange...so anyway thats my whole thing, maybe its because im just used to playing games at 30fps... most games on consoles are 30fps and people dont caus a stink like they do here about them lol...
Oh yeah, sure. Don't listen to the naysayers who actually bought the damned phone.
Currently, the Evo is suffering from the 30fps cap and slow touch response. I recorded the following videos a while ago to demonstrate what I mean:
There is no such thing as being 'too smooth'. Look at devices like the iPhone and Galaxy S and say they're 'too smooth'. Just be aware that these issues do exist and may or may not be fixed by HTC in the near future.
Apart from that, however, I have absolutely no issues with the phone.
Freelancerx said:
just get it your going to love it, dont listen to all the naysayers some people just cant be pleased. the biggest thing that people are griping about is the fps lock, which unless your very anal about gaming and have to have everything be ridiculously smooth then i guess might bother you...it certainly has no effect whatsoever on my usage of my device or even the few games ive played on it....
to me watching something in 60fps just seems so fake, like its just TOO smooth, i was playing metro 2033 the other day and with all the settings at their max @1080p resolution i average about about 35 fps...i got to this one part (its like a on rails part where you carry this kid on your back) and the frame rate just jumps to like at least double what i was getting up to like 75fps and the game was just very disorienting...like i wanted the controls to react faster, the game was so smooth that it almost seemed like it lagged behind my controls... it was pretty strange...so anyway thats my whole thing, maybe its because im just used to playing games at 30fps... most games on consoles are 30fps and people dont caus a stink like they do here about them lol...
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Oh yeah, sure. Don't listen to the naysayers who actually bought the damned phone.
Currently, the Evo is suffering from the 30fps cap and slow touch response. I recorded the following videos a while ago to demonstrate what I mean:
There is no such thing as being 'too smooth'. Look at devices like the iPhone and Galaxy S and say they're 'too smooth'. Just be aware that these issues do exist and may or may not be fixed by HTC in the near future.
Apart from that, however, I have absolutely no issues with the phone.
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I see what you guys are talking about. The 30fps cap IS an issue for me since I'm a quality whore xD I live my menus to scroll smoothly and I like my games to be unchoppy, but I mean this phone is still the bomb lol. I'm going to order it as soon as I can find someone who has good credit. Being a student, I dont have credit, and so Sprint will not let me apply for a line T_T
txtsd said:
I see what you guys are talking about. The 30fps cap IS an issue for me since I'm a quality whore xD I live my menus to scroll smoothly and I like my games to be unchoppy, but I mean this phone is still the bomb lol. I'm going to order it as soon as I can find someone who has good credit. Being a student, I dont have credit, and so Sprint will not let me apply for a line T_T
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Hah. Being a student, I sure hope you can afford the first bill, which is prorated .
But yes, this device is the best Android device currently on the market, and will continue to be one of the best for quite some time. Better yet, Sprint allows you to upgrade your phone a year into your contract with any plan $69.99 and above.
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Hah. Being a student, I sure hope you can afford the first bill, which is prorated .
But yes, this device is the best Android device currently on the market, and will continue to be one of the best for quite some time. Better yet, Sprint allows you to upgrade your phone a year into your contract with any plan $69.99 and above.
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My dad pays the phone bill, so no problems there lol. Is the first bill gonna be higher than usual or something?
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My dad pays the phone bill, so no problems there lol. Is the first bill gonna be higher than usual or something?
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well, he is referring to it being pro-rated, meaning you will be billed for part of a cycle in addition to your regular billing cycle-- the part you use outside of it. not to mention activation fee, etc.. but I got out of mine.
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well, he is referring to it being pro-rated, meaning you will be billed for part of a cycle in addition to your regular billing cycle-- the part you use outside of it. not to mention activation fee, etc.. but I got out of mine.
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ok I had no idea what pro-rated meant, so I researched. Is there any way to avoid these charges? like not use the phone for a few days or something?
No way to avoid the pro-rated charges unless you open the line on the first day of the month(billing cycle). And then you will have activation fee's, another 5 dollor charge to track your usage and that wont come off your bill until you pay every month on time for 18 months(appariently). Then you got taxes...... those all depend on your state and how they are billed, I got billed for city,county, and state sales tax... and even more money for activating a phone in my city and county... Basterds!
lol, the funny thing is. i dont have any credit, i have a saving account and have some carriers in the past. when i went to apply for sprint, i got declined for 2 lines. my girl ran her credit and got approved for 2 lines with 2 free blackberries,, she has one closed banking account and NO CREDIT WHAT SO EVER. i mean im not complaining,,, cough EVO.. but just had me buggin in radioshack lol
does everybody on Sprint have the same bill cycle (meaning same start/end day/date)?
it's weird cause i activated my 4 lines on June 10 and i was charged a prorated amount from June 10-12 and the full bill from June 13 and on; that's just nonsense and feels like they are just stealing that amount for no apparent reason when they could've easily just made the 1st month from the day of activation
I don't know how exactly the bill cycles work for sprint, I worked for At&t. But they started my bill cycle on the first, thats when my first bill is due..
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No way to avoid the pro-rated charges unless you open the line on the first day of the month(billing cycle). And then you will have activation fee's, another 5 dollor charge to track your usage and that wont come off your bill until you pay every month on time for 18 months(appariently). Then you got taxes...... those all depend on your state and how they are billed, I got billed for city,county, and state sales tax... and even more money for activating a phone in my city and county... Basterds!
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T_T I was thinking I could just not call or text for the few days till the beginning of the billing cycle. and whaaaaat?! $5/mo just to check if I pay on time or not? that's horrible. makes me not want to get the Evo. If the phone bill is going to be expensive as hell just because of these retarded factors, I might as well buy an unlocked Evo, and use my at&t sim card in it.
elitekernel said:
lol, the funny thing is. i dont have any credit, i have a saving account and have some carriers in the past. when i went to apply for sprint, i got declined for 2 lines. my girl ran her credit and got approved for 2 lines with 2 free blackberries,, she has one closed banking account and NO CREDIT WHAT SO EVER. i mean im not complaining,,, cough EVO.. but just had me buggin in radioshack lol
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I hate how they check for credit to give you a line. They won't give me one no matter what. And my dad doesn't live in the states, so i don't know if they'll let me get a line on his name T_T
jblazea50 said:
does everybody on Sprint have the same bill cycle (meaning same start/end day/date)?
it's weird cause i activated my 4 lines on June 10 and i was charged a prorated amount from June 10-12 and the full bill from June 13 and on; that's just nonsense and feels like they are just stealing that amount for no apparent reason when they could've easily just made the 1st month from the day of activation
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I need to figure this out so I can avoid the pro-charge.
txtsd said:
If the phone bill is going to be expensive as hell just because of these retarded factors, I might as well buy an unlocked Evo, and use my at&t sim card in it.
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You cant use any SIM cards with the Evo. It's a CDMA device, which means it doesn't have any support for those.
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You cant use any SIM cards with the Evo. It's a CDMA device, which means it doesn't have any support for those.
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dammit T_T
I don't have any credit either. I have multiple people sueing me, and a few overdue doctor bills on my credit. I have got declined for every credit card I have applied for.
And the $5 dollor charge has nothing to do with the evo, I think its something they put on all accounts, or well probably for people with horrible credit.
Really, with everything you getting on sprint, and its still a bit cheaper than any other company out there, for unlimited everything.
I wouldnt get one. I'm pretty disappointed with mine. At first it was neat, but now I'm kind of bored with it. There are 0 good games compared to what there was on the iphone. And the ones that are decent run like crap on the evo.
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Try it for 30 days, if you don't like it, return it.
'nuf said.
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I wouldnt get one. I'm pretty disappointed with mine. At first it was neat, but now I'm kind of bored with it. There are 0 good games compared to what there was on the iphone. And the ones that are decent run like crap on the evo.
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...which is why I'm contemplating on getting one, and haven't already ordered one
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Try it for 30 days, if you don't like it, return it.
'nuf said.
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What will it cost me to 'try' the phone for 30 days?
So my first android device I bought was a mytouch3G a few days ago. I love it, but it's just a bit slow. I'm thinking about selling it and getting some cash to buy the N1. My question is, do you guys think this phone is worth getting right now? Or is there a better Android phone out there than this one? I'm NOT going to be using the T-Mobile data plan, btw. Is there anything coming out soon that will cause a price drop?
Thanks.
edit: mods I realized I posted this in the wrong forum, please feel free to move it.
The N1 is amazing, especially coming from something like the mytouch3G. The Nexus one (tmobile version) can be bought as a Dev phone currently from Google at the normal price ($529) plus a $25 developer activation fee. You certainly wont regret the N1 if you decide to get it.
Another good Tmobile phone is the Vibrant, in general it meets if not slightly beat the nexus one in many departments even without froyo's JIT. And you can get a Vibrant for a little less then the $550 you would pay for a Nexus One.
Of course both can be found on Craigslist or ebay at a huge degree of different prices also.
Nothing I can think of that would cause any major price drops in the near future. ALSO there is the new HSPA+ flagphone that will be out soon that I'm certainly interested in.
My advise is to look at the tmobile android lineup (curent and future) and see if you know of anyone or go to the store and see if you can test them and if you like them more then the mytouch.
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Best phone ever best android experience as well
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To put this as objectively as possible coming from a n1 user. The nexus one is a nice phone if you're very into customizing, from my knowledge of android devices, it's the top for modding. However it all depends on what you're going to be doing on the phone. For example if you're going to be playing games that require multitouch (nova) then it does have an issue with its multitouch. To some that's not an issue cause they don't game to others it is. The other major issue that I see at least for me is the small internal storage space. 512mb, really google? That's just two of the issues that I would really liked to be different, they're the only real issues for me. An hdmi out would be nice, but I wouldn't use it that much i'm assuming so it's not a deal breaker for me, same thing with a front facing camera.
But then you have things like the trackball that's nice for notifications, the screen size is just right, it's powerful and everything AND it gets all the updates first! It has a flash, the camera is pretty good actually (even though I hate cell cameras).
The only device on T-mobile that I can see as being another option would be the samsung vibrant, especially if you plan to play games on it, since it doesn't have the multitouch issue, and the gpu is really powerful. Problems with the device for me is the lack of a flash for the vibrant.
As for is it worth it? Well that depends on if spending the money is worth it and if you're going to get another phone anyways, yes the n1 is a great phone if you can overlook the multitouch issue and the small internal storage space.
EDIT: one more issue that I have with the n1 is that the audio is kinda bad, the speakers are quiet, and the headphone's sound is also quiet. Just wish the sound could be up'ed more so that it's a reasonable sound quality. Just seems more quieter than other android phones that I've had.
htc420 said:
So my first android device I bought was a mytouch3G a few days ago. I love it, but it's just a bit slow. I'm thinking about selling it and getting some cash to buy the N1. My question is, do you guys think this phone is worth getting right now? Or is there a better Android phone out there than this one? I'm NOT going to be using the T-Mobile data plan, btw. Is there anything coming out soon that will cause a price drop?
Thanks.
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Either get the N1 right now, it's still an amazing phone, and I see NOTHING in market right now that I'd trade it for.
Or, wait several months for next gen to come out, something with an even stronger CPU, maybe even gingerbread around Christmas. And NO, it won't be called a Nexus Two.
Me, I'm wating for that second option. No smartphone/PDA on the market today appeals to me as an upgrade.
unfortunately price wont drop for a while, it's now a dev phone. but once you have it in ur hand, im sure ud feel the price was worth it. you can always sell the N1 too with if you dont like it. and if you're geek enough, have a flashing addiction of nightlies, constantly making trying out something new with ur phone, this should be it.
I was in your same position. I got the My Touch 3g 1.2. And it was awesome, but I read somewhere that it was like a mini Nexus One and that made me more curious. I sold the phone soon after, and found a Nexus One, and it really is an incredible device, with an operating system built and tested specially or it (FRF91). The one downside is that you have to worry about the Nexus One a bit more. When my ipod is dead, the MT3G was ok for the gym, but not the N1. It has actually forced me to take better care of my phone, and other devices in general. It was a good decision, for sure.
Most of the upcoming Android phones seem to be rebuilt versions of this phone, and the N1 is still expected to get most updates, app add-ons and functions first. All dual core processor phones are still a long way away and are only rumored devices. If you are extremely patient you could wait it out, or just buy the N1 and sell it in a year.
One item on the list "to consider" might be - Nexus will be the 1st existing device to get Gingerbread update, probably by a considerable time margin.
If you're not gonna use data, I wouldn't drop money on a nexus one or a top of the line smartphone for that matter.
dooo it! my touch3g is old and slow!!!!
Buying a Nexus One for $554 plus tax without a data plan would be absolute and downright insanity.
Wouldn't do it without a data plan!
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If you're not gonna use data, I wouldn't drop money on a nexus one or a top of the line smartphone for that matter.
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Wouldn't do it without a data plan!
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Haha, why not? I'm surrounded by WiFi literally EVERYWHERE. Is it because this phone limits what you can do on it without the data plan, like what BlackBerry does? I know with BB, you can't use certain apps, programs, features, etc without having a data plan. Is this the same?
And I'm not dropping 500+, hoping somewhere in the 300-350 price range, used on craigslist.
edit: Also, If I wanted to add a data plan, would I be able to do it without starting a new contract? Because a dealer that I personally know hooked me up with a no contract plan for tmo ($30+tax for unlimited calls and text, but no web).
Thanks.
no there is nothing limited by not having a data plan. and if you are near wifi all day then its will be just the same. but when you're driving in your car and want to use navigation, or look something up on google maps, wifi isnt gonna help you. that's what they're saying.
and yes you can add a data plan anytime without extending your contract on most any carrier nowadays.
LOL
i buy my N1 without data plan xD
i dont regret since i have wifi around in my work and home and im outside wifi range like 4 hours at day in bus or subway.
and im fine perhaps its like kill a fly wit a cannon
i will get in 10 days my 3g plan (too expensive here >_< )
but yea after months with wifi, all its ok but with 3g AMAZING phone
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Haha, why not? I'm surrounded by WiFi literally EVERYWHERE. Is it because this phone limits what you can do on it without the data plan, like what BlackBerry does? I know with BB, you can't use certain apps, programs, features, etc without having a data plan. Is this the same?
And I'm not dropping 500+, hoping somewhere in the 300-350 price range, used on craigslist.
edit: Also, If I wanted to add a data plan, would I be able to do it without starting a new contract? Because a dealer that I personally know hooked me up with a no contract plan for tmo ($30+tax for unlimited calls and text, but no web).
Thanks.
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I guess anywhere I have wifi, I have computer access, so I don't really touch my phone during those times.
There's no restrictions from the OS itself regarding data.
If you want super cheap data, go to the t-mo website, set up and account. The when it asks you for your phone type, just put in a generic non-smartphone phone. You'll be able to add the $10 "dumbphone" internet, which is the same as the "android" plan.
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If you want super cheap data, go to the t-mo website, set up and account. The when it asks you for your phone type, just put in a generic non-smartphone phone. You'll be able to add the $10 "dumbphone" internet, which is the same as the "android" plan.
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Interesting. First time I hear of that. Can't they find out what phone you have once they scan the phone?
[Edit]: I just checked my T-Mobile account and it shows up as Unknown Phone: "Sorry—we’re not sure which phone you’re using, so we’re not able to display resources. Please select a phone".
What's to prevent me from changing my account to the $10 dumbphone plan?
Paul22000 said:
Interesting. First time I hear of that. Can't they find out what phone you have once they scan the phone?
[Edit]: I just checked my T-Mobile account and it shows up as Unknown Phone: "Sorry—we’re not sure which phone you’re using, so we’re not able to display resources. Please select a phone".
What's to prevent me from changing my account to the $10 dumbphone plan?
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Scruples.
If you're on contract you won't be able to change the android plan without an ETF.
They surely can scan your imei and figure out which phone you have (ATT does this), but T-Mobile has not not started doing that yet.
JCopernicus said:
Scruples.
If you're on contract you won't be able to change the android plan without an ETF.
They surely can scan your imei and figure out which phone you have (ATT does this), but T-Mobile has not not started doing that yet.
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Because T-Mobile is the ****! I cautiously walked away from ATT and Verizon a few years ago and was amazed at what I found in Tmobile, I will never go back
Paul22000 said:
Interesting. First time I hear of that. Can't they find out what phone you have once they scan the phone?
[Edit]: I just checked my T-Mobile account and it shows up as Unknown Phone: "Sorry—we’re not sure which phone you’re using, so we’re not able to display resources. Please select a phone".
What's to prevent me from changing my account to the $10 dumbphone plan?
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Nothing...many other carriers check your imei number but tmobile rarely does anything with it. Try it, the worse that could happen is they figure out you have a smartphone and bump you back up to what you are currently paying. Theoretically there is no difference between the dumbphone and the smartphone variant (im pretty sure).
I posted this over on Android Central hoping a TMO rep would chime in
but none did :
I had an NS for a week, didnt like it, and returned it to Best Buy.
They were supposed to reverse the two year contract.
I got my phone bill and it still had the $18 + $1.26 tax upgrade charge.
I called TMO to get that taken off and apparently they hadnt reversed
my contract. So the rep fixed that and took the upgrade charge off.
But the reason for this thread is that she said I didnt have 4G internet.
I got the unlimited Android plan when I got with my pre-buy G1.
I had 3000 minutes in Florida, unlimited web and 400 texts.
A few months later I was told I was eligible for the unlimited loyalty plan
which changed my 3000 Florida only minutes to unlimited in the US.
So after the call yesterday I started looking at the TMO website and
I dont see anywhere where they differentiate web packages between
3G and 4G.
The rep said I wouldnt be able to do video chat because I dont have 4G.
Is this true ?
Anyone know ?
The MT4G is noticeably faster than the N1, NS, and G2.
It made me wonder if what she said is just a line they are told to tell people.
Anyone know if thats possible to block 4G to customers ?
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I am in the Tampa area that has the HSPA+/4G.
(mods this is about the MT4G)
going_home said:
I posted this over on Android Central hoping a TMO rep would chime in
but none did :
I am in the Tampa area that has the HSPA+/4G.
(mods this is about the MT4G)
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As far as I know if your area has 4g and your phone is capable... you should get 4g. When I worked there about three years ago they couldnt block 3g. They can throttle your data usage though.
Great question, however there is no need to change web packages at this time if you are able to keep your grandfathered services. The term "4G Web" is just marketing and does nothing/provides no extra benefit to have the newer features.
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Great question, however there is no need to change web packages at this time if you are able to keep your grandfathered services. The term "4G Web" is just marketing and does nothing/provides no extra benefit to have the newer features.
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Ok thats what I was trying to find out.
I figured they are trained to try and get rid of the older cheaper plans.
The rep said I wouldnt be able to use the video chat if I didnt upgrade my plan to 4G.
My current plan is $24.99 for unlimited data and 400 texts.
She said that plan was not 4g and I would need the 4G package at $30.00 plus
$5.99 for unlimited texts = $35.99. So $11.00 plus tax more.
How can I make sure I already have the HSPA+/4G ?
The phone is much faster than the Nexus One, G2, or Nexus S.
There is no difference between the packages though accept that the regular web wont work unless customer service does something on their end to make it work. I am a T-Mobile RSA and when the MyTouch 4G first launched they were not requiring us in the system to change the web on upgrades so most of the time we didn't then 24 hours later customers where calling us saying their web wasn't working and we figured out it was because we weren't changing the plans. But I have seen those plans like the 24.99 plans work if a customers call and complain correctly lol. But there is no speed difference between the plans it is all the same data speed its a matter of how the phone handles it.
I work alongside Tmobile [read: RadioShack employee], and I'm also in the Tampa Bay area [Burg side]. I can tell you for a fact your internet doesn't have to be a 4g plan. But that being said, in Tmo's systems all the new customers that sign up for web are being placed on a "4g" data plan, as opposed to just "data" as it in the past was called. This may be ramping up to a No FFC switch to be flipped, but at the moment, no complaints from older customers just SIM swapping (from a previous Android). PM for irl contact if you'd like, I can hook you up with my corporate reps info, [or atleast be a middle man between you].
Edit in further reading of the T-Mo rep's post above, we too have had a few cases of that, but only from people coming from what used to be deemed 'phone first' web. Anyone coming from G1, Cliq [xt], MyTouch [3g/Slide], etc haven't had any problem. [I myself included.] Maybe there is a larger issue here depending on what T-Mo serverside [or phone interpretation side] are reading for the plan(s) [as you mentioned.]
The new web features are called 4g, but they replace the old ones. In other words, there is no separate 4g and 3g data features. Some reps are just stupid. As long as you have a web feature that works for your phone, you can get whatever speeds are available in your area.
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When doing any upgrades in a store, the web feature has to be taken off and the required web feature has to be added which is $30. Unless you go with one of the promo plans out right now, which have the data at $20.
deviusdragger said:
When doing any upgrades in a store, the web feature has to be taken off and the required web feature has to be added which is $30. Unless you go with one of the promo plans out right now, which have the data at $20.
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Yeah and the only way around it is to buy the phone full price.
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stoneyjonez said:
Yeah and the only way around it is to buy the phone full price.
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or you can always call retention =O
Nail on the head
cnflct said:
or you can always call retention =O
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i would so trade you my myt4g for your NS all because of its GPU
The GPU war again huh? last we need is kids fighting over GPU now in mobile world lol seen that enough in PC world. BTW don't be fooled SGX540 just wins over Adreno 205 by very small margin as Galaxy S in this arena graphic comes superior in threading and displaying due to Super AMOLED. But if you check carefully due to superior hardware spec (higher ram, 2nd gen proc) it renders faster and smoother than NS. Trust me I know before I bought MT4G I did extended research on every device. DHD is the only one that came close but head to head with MT4G it didn't win in benchmark and only reason I picked it due to bigger screen which I miss since HD2.
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The GPU war again huh? last we need is kids fighting over GPU now in mobile world lol seen that enough in PC world. BTW don't be fooled SGX540 just wins over Adreno 205 by very small margin as Galaxy S in this arena graphic comes superior in threading and displaying due to Super AMOLED. But if you check carefully due to superior hardware spec (higher ram, 2nd gen proc) it renders faster and smoother than NS. Trust me I know before I bought MT4G I did extended research on every device. DHD is the only one that came close but head to head with MT4G it didn't win in benchmark and only reason I picked it due to bigger screen which I miss since HD2.
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Yeah i did my research as well. watch a sh*t load of review, etc I just like the form factor of the nexus s and its one strip of glass so i wouldnt have to worry about light leaking, hard buttons creaking, and with the SAMOLED i dont care much for but i like the extra 2" the GPU isnt too much better but it does run PSX alittle better. also if this phone is dropped it would probably dent lol cause the metal and its supper heavy (i actually like the heavy part) i just wish HTC didnt make it glass, hard buttons, then another plastic part. it just makes it complecated and problems xD i have OCD about phone stuff lol. when i get this phone replaced and get one with a good screen ill be happy then (if i dont get damn creaky buttons) idk if i would wanna go with samsung anyway.. after the behold 2 they fvcked over everyone with that phone.. but google has the NS backed up thats why i thought about it.
I learned long ago about not buying from Samsung as they truly lack the oversight, hence why HTC excels in this field? they are only focused in dominating the mobile field which they have successfully done so and I can say all my device will be HTC based until something else comes along. But thats very hard when 9/10 device that do make in is HTC based lol so they must be doing something right.
Ya I wasn't happy with the display, creaking button and ffc problems with MT4G, I just found it very odd the number of reported was so high as it makes you wonder how it even got passed QC in first place, they must have monkeys lol checking it. My display turn out good along with the button but the FFC is off center as its tilted on the right as its 0.3mp cam I don't care much as I doubt I will ever use it.
Looking at possibly coming over to tmobile to use the 4g network, since I tether with the mytouch 4g.
All plans unlimited text and data
Considering the "no contract plans"
500min @ $59.99 plus tax
1000min @$69.99 plus tax
OR
Sign a two year contract to get another phone, possibly a mytouch 4g for $99 costco or the up coming sale.
1500min @ $79.99 POSSIBLE discount of 15% =$68 plus tax
Ohio state discount for employees or whatever.....Over the phone with a customer rep I was told I just had to provide a valid email. If I give them my osu email this should work although I'm not an employee of the university. Would trade the new mytouch 4g for a nexus s and keep it as a back up. Or just wait for newer 4g phones to come out and purchase one of those.
Question pertains to being able to set up the OSU email on the account, would it work just by giving CS the email? Anyway to set up a discount on the "no contract plans" even more plan
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I learned long ago about not buying from Samsung as they truly lack the oversight, hence why HTC excels in this field? they are only focused in dominating the mobile field which they have successfully done so and I can say all my device will be HTC based until something else comes along. But thats very hard when 9/10 device that do make in is HTC based lol so they must be doing something right.
Ya I wasn't happy with the display, creaking button and ffc problems with MT4G, I just found it very odd the number of reported was so high as it makes you wonder how it even got passed QC in first place, they must have monkeys lol checking it. My display turn out good along with the button but the FFC is off center as its tilted on the right as its 0.3mp cam I don't care much as I doubt I will ever use it.
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Yeah I can agree with you on that. HTC has been my number one device but after the mytouch side and now this... The G1 had better buttons than this. And didn't have light leaking through. Its sad the g1 having better build quality. And evey other phone coming out with a ffc has a 1.3 mp I know mp isn't the thing that counts but 0.3? Lol. I don't think monkeys would've even let it pass haha. Htc messed up the nexis one screen as well.. I think they do perfect on every phone then mess up the stupidest thing that could've been avoided. I don't get it. Its like they don't test their own devices. If it wasn't for the hard buttons and messed ffc and crap screen lol. Those are easy fixes for them to see I'm sure.
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Yeah and the only way around it is to buy the phone full price.
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Thats what I did, bought mine on Craigslist after I returned the NS to Best Buy.
I just dont trust what the rep told me on the phone and I'd like to know
for sure if I actually have HSPA+ or not.
You Have A MyTouch 4G ? You Have 4G !
Ok guys, went to my local TMO company store today in search of an answer
to the question "do I have to upgrade my plan in order to get
HSPA+/4G" .
The answer is no, the original prebuy G1 Android plan gets 4G and there
is no way for TMO to block 4G since technically its 3.5something G anyways.
I went to settings/about phone/network while I was in the store and it said
HSDPA on the phone.
The rep in the store agreed that what the rep told me on the phone was bogus.
So... I got fed up with Sprint's service and switched over to Verizon (iphone 4 white, i know i know), which leaves my shift... well sitting there. The shift is running on shiftdeck 1.2x on x99 currently. I can revert it back to stock or leave it the way it is. The original box, manuals, charging adapter, and data cable are all in it's packaging untouched. I'm also including an 8GB memory card, and a car charger as well. The phone has NOT been dropped once, but there's tiny scuffs on the corners of the phone from wear and tear. She was always on my side holster, and never once in my pocket for any reason. Original battery, and all water damage indicators have not been tripped. I gotta say, I took care of her damn well. I don't have a set price, so message me what you want to pay for it. If you message me your e-mail I'll send you pictures of the phone and packaging. If you're local, i'll drive by and drop it off, or if you're somewhere in the US of A i'll fedex it for free (i'd rather not if you're local, so please don't be lazy). Well that's my announcement! And no, I am NOT doing trades. So message me your price folks! and no, 20 dollars is not reasonable :|. xda and google+ comes first, after that it's going on ebay or craigslist. I'm leaving a seven day window. Offer ends on 07/17.
I have been getting annoyed with their service lately too.
Probably not ideal, but you can get a $115 credit for your phone if you turn it into sprint.. I guess you can put that towards your ETF? Couple questions if you don't mind..
How much is the ETF and how much was left in your contract?
How are you liking the iPhone?
Are Verizon's 3G speeds decent?
It seems after the launch of the EVO 3D, the network is just crawling. Takes me like 2-3 minutes to download a 3MB file..
My contract expires early 2013, and for I don't know how much the ETF is. I haven't received my final bill.
I like my IPhone a lot. Girls dig the white coupe with the white Iphone :]. But the IOS is very stable, smooth, and I feel like no further tweaking is necessary like I did with prior android devices. I don't know... it just works like you want it to. It might be the new phone bliss feeling, but I'm really feeling the phone right now. Very satisfied, and can't wait until my 30 days are over so I can jailbreak it.
Verizon's 3G speeds aren't super fast like AT&T, but it is very stable in consistency. After doing speed tests in different locations, streaming youtube videos while mobile in the car, I have not experienced any speed fluctuations, and all videos stream without buffer in HQ. The calls go through fast when making an outgoing call, with Sprint I always had to wait 1-2 seconds before I see the 0:00 connect but with Verizon it's instant. Dial the number and hold it to your cheek. Something I need to get used to. As for numerical value, the 3G network is a consistent 120kbs-300kbs. Which will download your 3MB file in a few seconds .
I've been thinking about it. May wait til the iphone has LTE.