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Who is considering this phone?

I am a little, but the lemon in this whole thing is T-Mobile. They are cheap, have android but they don't have good service. I am on at&t and I am loving them(less and less apparently), and I want android again!
Anyone else in this same boat with the decision? I hope its faster when it gets released. Whats the ram and rom on this thing?

I have tmo and I have never had a problem let alone a dropped call. . . Also, if you live in major areas, anywhere near NYC, you are good to go no matter what carrier you have.
That being said I really like tmo for the service and support I get from them.

i have tmo also and never had any problems 3g works fine calls never drop. so the question of will i get a N1 most definitely and $530 is not to much to pay for the phone. and the ones who payd $699 for the i phone (plus contract) on the release cant talk

I've had T-Mobile for years now. They are pretty good. The only downside is that I don't get signal in school in some classrooms. But aren't I supposed to not be using a cellphone in class ?
The N1 has 512 MB RAM/ROM so it's pretty legit!

I have never once got a dropped call with tmobile. Bunch of friends have jesus phones (iphones) and always get terrible reception, dropped calls, sudden loss of signal, etc. My 3G is also faster then every friend's iphone when doing speed tests side by side. Throw in tmobile's excellent customer service, and you have an amazing cell company. I haven't had any issues with them whatsoever. I just called them yesterday morning and asked for an unlock code for my G1 and with no questions asked, they took my IMEI and email and said it would take 24 hours to get the code from the manufacturer. I got the code in my email a few hours ago. Seriously, people dont give tmobile enough credit. They call them the smallest of the big three, sure, but the smallest have to do a lot more than Verizon and AT&T to win over customers.

considering this phone? It's a must have for many!

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Since so many people are complaining about the unsubsidized price and crying about it being so much, I’ve crunched the numbers to calculate what the “real price” of the phone is when you buy it for $180 and sign a contract for a higher monthly payment. Note that the service you’re paying for is identical… you’re just paying more per month if you buy the phone subsidized.
Based on that information, using the prices of the 500 minute plans that T-mo offers, the “real price” of the phone when you pay $180 upfront is $660! How'd I come to this number? By subsidizing the phone, you agree to pay an extra $20 per month for the plan. That equals $480. $480+180=$660.
If Google was like Apple, they would be charging us over $600 for the unlocked and unsubsidized phone...

I am definitely fighting the wife over the unlocked price so I can get one. I seem to be winning so I might be getting one.
I have had T-Mobile for since '05, and I have never had any issues. Every year so far, I have gotten a new phone, 3 out of 4 have been full upgrades (supposed to be every 2 years) and the other was a partial. I have had exceptional help from customer service as I have a phone on my plan that resides outside of any T-mobile coverage (its actually funny, the phone runs off ATT towers... on a T-mobile plan... go figure). I have only had 1 dropped call in the last few years that I can think of. I live in Dayton OH, and we just got upgraded to 3g about 3 months ago. I am quite happy with T-Mobile. They are making giant strides to improving their network.
Edit: On a side note, I have used T-mobile extensively in Georgia(3 years), Texas(6 months) and now Ohio (6 months) and the network has been great in each of the locations. Also, having driven up and down the east coast at least 4 or 5 times from Vermont to Florida, I can say that the T-Mobiles network has been great, at least near the major highways. Heck it even worked great when I was in Alaska for a month.

Can I ask, why would someoen get this over the HTC variant?
Makes no sense considering the HTC Varient would have greater support and would have sense,

The HTC variant probably wont be a "google experience" device...but who knows.

Maedhros said:
Can I ask, why would someoen get this over the HTC variant?
Makes no sense considering the HTC Varient would have greater support and would have sense,
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Personally, I'd rather have updates as soon as they come out, not after HTC updates SenseUI to work with updated Android releases.

The only reason that I am considering getting this phone over waiting for the Bravo is this forum. I have faith that the devs here can hook up a rom that will do pretty much anything on the Nexus that the Bravo or Passion can do. I could be wrong, and if I am let me know! I don't want to buy a phone that won't live up to standards that are 3 months down the road.

i know i am i have a touch pro 2 with tmobile i actually love the keyboard & everything but tmobiles version of the phone is the ugliest of the 4 companies & 2 of my friends have the sprint version which looks & is shaped much better & they keep rubbing it in my face (even though i got mines months b4 them) plus im bored of windows mobile so good buy tp2 hello nexus!!!!

Screw sense ui. i want stock android on a phone with 512mb RAM and a 1ghz processor. sign me up for the list of people getting this phone as soon as it is available.

david1171 said:
Screw sense ui. i want stock android on a phone with 512mb RAM and a 1ghz processor. sign me up for the list of people getting this phone as soon as it is available.
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This is what I want too. I don't want some junked up UI being pushed on me. Thats one big reason I can't even get myself to consider the SE X10. I don't want a UI. I want vanilla Android that I can alter as I want.
If I want a UI, flashing a ROM works for me.

Does anyone know, if they ship it to Europe?
If they do, I will buy it asap

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i'll buy a nexus, after a couple of months worth of other people using it and posting it's cons/pros.
why ?
the processor, and ram
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two very major companies are trying to help people understand that BUYING something means you OWN it... as opposed to signing a effing contract with some service provider, for 2x what a device and service is worth. some day, americans will see the light and stop financing so much simple crap. i hope.

Of crouse i am hah! Even made a site for it! pshh n1user.com

I'll get one. Why? I want a native Google Phone and do hope that the softwaresupport would be very good (like the G1 at least) and we'll get all major updates. I don't like Sense anyway.

I'll probably get one because my iPhone sucks (some of the games and stuff are cool, but the overall performance isn't that good) and i don't want a WM-phone again.

Should I Make the Switch?

So my first android device I bought was a mytouch3G a few days ago. I love it, but it's just a bit slow. I'm thinking about selling it and getting some cash to buy the N1. My question is, do you guys think this phone is worth getting right now? Or is there a better Android phone out there than this one? I'm NOT going to be using the T-Mobile data plan, btw. Is there anything coming out soon that will cause a price drop?
Thanks.
edit: mods I realized I posted this in the wrong forum, please feel free to move it.

The N1 is amazing, especially coming from something like the mytouch3G. The Nexus one (tmobile version) can be bought as a Dev phone currently from Google at the normal price ($529) plus a $25 developer activation fee. You certainly wont regret the N1 if you decide to get it.
Another good Tmobile phone is the Vibrant, in general it meets if not slightly beat the nexus one in many departments even without froyo's JIT. And you can get a Vibrant for a little less then the $550 you would pay for a Nexus One.
Of course both can be found on Craigslist or ebay at a huge degree of different prices also.
Nothing I can think of that would cause any major price drops in the near future. ALSO there is the new HSPA+ flagphone that will be out soon that I'm certainly interested in.
My advise is to look at the tmobile android lineup (curent and future) and see if you know of anyone or go to the store and see if you can test them and if you like them more then the mytouch.
-Cheers

Best phone ever best android experience as well
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To put this as objectively as possible coming from a n1 user. The nexus one is a nice phone if you're very into customizing, from my knowledge of android devices, it's the top for modding. However it all depends on what you're going to be doing on the phone. For example if you're going to be playing games that require multitouch (nova) then it does have an issue with its multitouch. To some that's not an issue cause they don't game to others it is. The other major issue that I see at least for me is the small internal storage space. 512mb, really google? That's just two of the issues that I would really liked to be different, they're the only real issues for me. An hdmi out would be nice, but I wouldn't use it that much i'm assuming so it's not a deal breaker for me, same thing with a front facing camera.
But then you have things like the trackball that's nice for notifications, the screen size is just right, it's powerful and everything AND it gets all the updates first! It has a flash, the camera is pretty good actually (even though I hate cell cameras).
The only device on T-mobile that I can see as being another option would be the samsung vibrant, especially if you plan to play games on it, since it doesn't have the multitouch issue, and the gpu is really powerful. Problems with the device for me is the lack of a flash for the vibrant.
As for is it worth it? Well that depends on if spending the money is worth it and if you're going to get another phone anyways, yes the n1 is a great phone if you can overlook the multitouch issue and the small internal storage space.
EDIT: one more issue that I have with the n1 is that the audio is kinda bad, the speakers are quiet, and the headphone's sound is also quiet. Just wish the sound could be up'ed more so that it's a reasonable sound quality. Just seems more quieter than other android phones that I've had.

htc420 said:
So my first android device I bought was a mytouch3G a few days ago. I love it, but it's just a bit slow. I'm thinking about selling it and getting some cash to buy the N1. My question is, do you guys think this phone is worth getting right now? Or is there a better Android phone out there than this one? I'm NOT going to be using the T-Mobile data plan, btw. Is there anything coming out soon that will cause a price drop?
Thanks.
edit: mods I realized I posted this in the wrong forum, please feel free to move it.
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Either get the N1 right now, it's still an amazing phone, and I see NOTHING in market right now that I'd trade it for.
Or, wait several months for next gen to come out, something with an even stronger CPU, maybe even gingerbread around Christmas. And NO, it won't be called a Nexus Two.
Me, I'm wating for that second option. No smartphone/PDA on the market today appeals to me as an upgrade.

unfortunately price wont drop for a while, it's now a dev phone. but once you have it in ur hand, im sure ud feel the price was worth it. you can always sell the N1 too with if you dont like it. and if you're geek enough, have a flashing addiction of nightlies, constantly making trying out something new with ur phone, this should be it.

I was in your same position. I got the My Touch 3g 1.2. And it was awesome, but I read somewhere that it was like a mini Nexus One and that made me more curious. I sold the phone soon after, and found a Nexus One, and it really is an incredible device, with an operating system built and tested specially or it (FRF91). The one downside is that you have to worry about the Nexus One a bit more. When my ipod is dead, the MT3G was ok for the gym, but not the N1. It has actually forced me to take better care of my phone, and other devices in general. It was a good decision, for sure.
Most of the upcoming Android phones seem to be rebuilt versions of this phone, and the N1 is still expected to get most updates, app add-ons and functions first. All dual core processor phones are still a long way away and are only rumored devices. If you are extremely patient you could wait it out, or just buy the N1 and sell it in a year.

One item on the list "to consider" might be - Nexus will be the 1st existing device to get Gingerbread update, probably by a considerable time margin.

If you're not gonna use data, I wouldn't drop money on a nexus one or a top of the line smartphone for that matter.

dooo it! my touch3g is old and slow!!!!

Buying a Nexus One for $554 plus tax without a data plan would be absolute and downright insanity.

Wouldn't do it without a data plan!

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If you're not gonna use data, I wouldn't drop money on a nexus one or a top of the line smartphone for that matter.
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galaxys said:
Wouldn't do it without a data plan!
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Haha, why not? I'm surrounded by WiFi literally EVERYWHERE. Is it because this phone limits what you can do on it without the data plan, like what BlackBerry does? I know with BB, you can't use certain apps, programs, features, etc without having a data plan. Is this the same?
And I'm not dropping 500+, hoping somewhere in the 300-350 price range, used on craigslist.
edit: Also, If I wanted to add a data plan, would I be able to do it without starting a new contract? Because a dealer that I personally know hooked me up with a no contract plan for tmo ($30+tax for unlimited calls and text, but no web).
Thanks.

no there is nothing limited by not having a data plan. and if you are near wifi all day then its will be just the same. but when you're driving in your car and want to use navigation, or look something up on google maps, wifi isnt gonna help you. that's what they're saying.
and yes you can add a data plan anytime without extending your contract on most any carrier nowadays.

LOL
i buy my N1 without data plan xD
i dont regret since i have wifi around in my work and home and im outside wifi range like 4 hours at day in bus or subway.
and im fine perhaps its like kill a fly wit a cannon
i will get in 10 days my 3g plan (too expensive here >_< )
but yea after months with wifi, all its ok but with 3g AMAZING phone

htc420 said:
Haha, why not? I'm surrounded by WiFi literally EVERYWHERE. Is it because this phone limits what you can do on it without the data plan, like what BlackBerry does? I know with BB, you can't use certain apps, programs, features, etc without having a data plan. Is this the same?
And I'm not dropping 500+, hoping somewhere in the 300-350 price range, used on craigslist.
edit: Also, If I wanted to add a data plan, would I be able to do it without starting a new contract? Because a dealer that I personally know hooked me up with a no contract plan for tmo ($30+tax for unlimited calls and text, but no web).
Thanks.
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I guess anywhere I have wifi, I have computer access, so I don't really touch my phone during those times.
There's no restrictions from the OS itself regarding data.
If you want super cheap data, go to the t-mo website, set up and account. The when it asks you for your phone type, just put in a generic non-smartphone phone. You'll be able to add the $10 "dumbphone" internet, which is the same as the "android" plan.

JCopernicus said:
If you want super cheap data, go to the t-mo website, set up and account. The when it asks you for your phone type, just put in a generic non-smartphone phone. You'll be able to add the $10 "dumbphone" internet, which is the same as the "android" plan.
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Interesting. First time I hear of that. Can't they find out what phone you have once they scan the phone?
[Edit]: I just checked my T-Mobile account and it shows up as Unknown Phone: "Sorry—we’re not sure which phone you’re using, so we’re not able to display resources. Please select a phone".
What's to prevent me from changing my account to the $10 dumbphone plan?

Paul22000 said:
Interesting. First time I hear of that. Can't they find out what phone you have once they scan the phone?
[Edit]: I just checked my T-Mobile account and it shows up as Unknown Phone: "Sorry—we’re not sure which phone you’re using, so we’re not able to display resources. Please select a phone".
What's to prevent me from changing my account to the $10 dumbphone plan?
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Scruples.
If you're on contract you won't be able to change the android plan without an ETF.
They surely can scan your imei and figure out which phone you have (ATT does this), but T-Mobile has not not started doing that yet.

JCopernicus said:
Scruples.
If you're on contract you won't be able to change the android plan without an ETF.
They surely can scan your imei and figure out which phone you have (ATT does this), but T-Mobile has not not started doing that yet.
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Because T-Mobile is the ****! I cautiously walked away from ATT and Verizon a few years ago and was amazed at what I found in Tmobile, I will never go back

Paul22000 said:
Interesting. First time I hear of that. Can't they find out what phone you have once they scan the phone?
[Edit]: I just checked my T-Mobile account and it shows up as Unknown Phone: "Sorry—we’re not sure which phone you’re using, so we’re not able to display resources. Please select a phone".
What's to prevent me from changing my account to the $10 dumbphone plan?
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Nothing...many other carriers check your imei number but tmobile rarely does anything with it. Try it, the worse that could happen is they figure out you have a smartphone and bump you back up to what you are currently paying. Theoretically there is no difference between the dumbphone and the smartphone variant (im pretty sure).

One more day left..

For my Sprint 30 day guarantee. Tomorrow is the last day I can return my Evo and walk away without a termination fee. Im coming from Tmobile and have used just about all their phones and all iphones, and the Evo holds its own. I love the screen size, and its build quality. But the main thing ive liked is the 3g coverage, its no where near as fast as Tmobile in my area, but i do alot of highway driving and get 1mb plus everywhere. With Tmobile once i started getting away from the city it would drop to edge. I guess ill go play with tmobiles new Mytouch 4g and make my decision there. I just sold the g2 i had which i hated, but I still own my Vibrant and iphone 4 so i could always go back.
But so far what I Like:
Screen size!!!!!
Build quality!
Dual Flash
3g Coverage
Development support.
What I dont like:
Super amoled looks wayy better.
3g is slower but still fine (Evo= 1mb+ to Vibrant=5mb downloads)
Graphics Suck. Live wallpaper slows it down, and 3d gaming is barely playable
Sprints Customer service is no where near as good as Tmobiles.

Oh yeah after a talk with sprints retention departmnet, They waived my actication fee, and provided me with a credit of $50 since I mentioned the Evo could be acquired online for $150, just in order to keep my service. And right at the end when I mentioned I would continue to think about it, the rep offered me a $10 credit every month for the rest of the contract (24months). This would kick in on my next billing cycle.
My 27% discount would also kick in next bill, making my total bill $50 plus tax which is still a little more than if id return to tmobile

Kinda hard to argue with those discounts, not a bad deal right there.
But I can't understand how you like AMOLED screens more, YUCK! They always look odd to me, too blue or too vibrant and kind of pixel-y? They are more readable in some situations but still I think they look awful.

Not gonna lie... i really like the new myTouch. I am a fan of sense... also, hspa+ rocks in my area, and gsm is easier on battery than cdma. Add to that our wimax radios... lol, still love my evo though...

Is say they earned your business, man that makes me think I need to complain more..lol
The ten dollars off every month would more then compensate for the cost of the phone its self.
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After having the Evo I just dont see how i can ever own anything smaller than a 4.3in screen. Ill more than likely stick with The evo untill sprint or another carrier releases a highend 4.3in that isnt lock down. I do love the phone, just wished it could handle graphics better.
With the discounts im getting and the coolness of the Evo ill probably stick to Sprint for now unless the mytouch4g blows me away, which at 3.8in I dont think it will.
Now the Nexus S/2 could be interesting.

I was happy getting a 23% discount from --removed by mod--
I am also of the opinion that you have way too much time on your hands. For someone who is trying to drive their price down to nothing, you sure have a lot of the more recent phones, that you clearly could have sold to make up for any cost of having a phone in general.
While I am also a former T-mo customer, I gave them my money for 10 years, but honestly I don't think they are offering the best phones this year. As for plans, everyone I know can't touch my 4G speeds. As for customer service, I think Sprint has done a pretty good job with you.
If your just here to get attention, then I'd recommend moving on to the (Insert Next Best Phone Name) forum. The EVO on Sprint 4G clearly is the winner. If you don't have 4G then I can understand your dilemma, but still I highly doubt that you have a T-mo Talk/Text/Data for less than $50. Hell, its probably not less than $70 if your including insurance on your phones.
Good luck.

Brutal-Force said:
I was happy getting a 23% discount from --removed--.
I am also of the opinion that you have way too much time on your hands. For someone who is trying to drive their price down to nothing, you sure have a lot of the more recent phones, that you clearly could have sold to make up for any cost of having a phone in general.
While I am also a former T-mo customer, I gave them my money for 10 years, but honestly I don't think they are offering the best phones this year. As for plans, everyone I know can't touch my 4G speeds. As for customer service, I think Sprint has done a pretty good job with you.
If your just here to get attention, then I'd recommend moving on to the (Insert Next Best Phone Name) forum. The EVO on Sprint 4G clearly is the winner. If you don't have 4G then I can understand your dilemma, but still I highly doubt that you have a T-mo Talk/Text/Data for less than $50. Hell, its probably not less than $70 if your including insurance on your phones.
Good luck.
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First off, nothing wrong with having all the latest and greatest phones out, it's by far the best way to find out which phone you personally like best. If I could afford it I'd do it too.
Second, evo is hardly the winner. All phones have their downfalls and can be considered better than others in their own right.
My nexus can be considered better than your evo for a number of reasons.
1. Google owns android. Nexus is google's baby. It is also a developers phone.when android releases froyo, gingerbread, etc. who is the first to get it? Me. Have fun waiting months for yours to update, or for some samsung owners, possibly never.
2. I'm hitting 60 fps, enjoy your 30 fps. You may have a bigger screen but can't fully enjoy it. Playing 3d games on the evo is atrocious.
3. Sprints 4g service had been highly touted this I know. But recent testing done by cnet, which I consider highly reliable and non bias; shows in NY sprints 4g getting 2-3mb whereas tmobiles hspa+ getting 5-6mb and it's not even considered true 4g lol but it doubled sprints. Now of course mileage will very.
Don't get me wrong, evo is a great phone. it's like having a portable theater in your pocket. It took me about three weeks of intense research comparing top phones on all carriers to reach a decision. I was hesitant to get the nexus considering how old it is, released in january. But it still using the same processor as many off the newer phones including evo, the 1ghz snapdragon. Yes your chip has been updated but mines still faster lol. And I like using a developer phone and getting updates before anyone else. Some may consider updates not that big of deal but froyo increased browser speed up to 30%, not something I'd want to wait months for to enjoy.
Oh and I have to say I love the trackball. Comes in handy for selecting text or other tight spots while browsing. I can also have it blink different colors: red for missed text, blue for missed call, green for voicemail, orange for email, purple for low battery, works for notifications as well.
It's nice having all this information without even turning on my phone.
This is officially by far the longest thing I've typed out on my nexus, got to love swype lol.

The nexus one is outdated. No matter what you say. Gingerbread is rumored to come out Nov 11 and its main feature is an integtrated video chat app. Nexi don't have a front facing camera. So right there goggles baby will be handicapped with that feature. I love the nexus a year ago when it came out but data speeds aren't nothing to brag about especially if its a matter of seconds. I think the mytouch 4G is ugly, it has to much bezeling on the side. A trackball is not needed when you have a big a$$ screen. And super amoled screens have been known to burn-in the screens. All the features there's no other phone that has what the evo can offer.
Front facing camera
Kickstand
Unlockable
Sense (which is the next best thing to vanilla)
4g capable
Capacitive buttons
Skinny
Sexy looking phone
Your making a rant in the evo section , in perfectly happy with my evo. Of all the phones I've owned this is by the far the best. With features and functionality in account.
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The nexus one is outdated. No matter what you say. Gingerbread is rumored to come out Nov 11 and its main feature is an integtrated video chat app. Nexi don't have a front facing camera. So right there goggles baby will be handicapped with that feature. I love the nexus a year ago when it came out but data speeds aren't nothing to brag about especially if its a matter of seconds. I think the mytouch 4G is ugly, it has to much bezeling on the side. A trackball is not needed when you have a big a$$ screen. And super amoled screens have been known to burn-in the screens. All the features there's no other phone that has what the evo can offer.
Front facing camera
Kickstand
Unlockable
Sense (which is the next best thing to vanilla)
4g capable
Capacitive buttons
Skinny
Sexy looking phone
Your making a rant in the evo section , in perfectly happy with my evo. Of all the phones I've owned this is by the far the best. With features and functionality in account.
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Calm down no need to get your panties in a bunch. Only one ranting is yourself.
Yes the nexus has been out since jan that's already been stated. Thanks for that bit of info. But it still has the same processor as the evo, though an older version. Yet it is still overclocked much faster than your evo.
Front facing camera, unlockable (lol did you really list that?), htc sense (lol? Anyone can flash that), 4g, skinny (hardly, compared to other smart phones it's quiet bulky, hence the pocket theater)... All these features can be found on many phones...front facing camera is over rated I can do without. How many video calls have you made in the past month?
Trackball great for alerts I don't even have to turn on my phone to get notifications.
With that being said, I'm glad you are happy with your evo, enjoy

I actually use the front facing camera a lot. I chat with other evo and iPhone 4 users. Given the ratio its pretty thin. And what's wrong with using the same processor. You want a better processor then go to Samsung galaxy s series. Good luck with the gps on there tho. Humming bird processor blows everyone out of the water. When I mean unlockable I mean the boot loader is not on lock down. And not everyone phone can flash sense, DX or D2 can't. Which are the newer phones comparable to the evo. You were seriously contemplating leaving Sprint to go with t-mobile cause of data speeds in a restricted area. Kinda of ironic cause the only thing that you sound to be proud of on the nexus is the processor speed. Processor speed don't mean **** if you don't got 3G or WiFi connection. Edge sucks on tmo and ill take Sprints 3G even tho I have the same processor as your sexi Nexi.

Scoobasteves: Evo is just as fps unlocked as nexus, that's old news.
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I was happy getting a 23% discount from --evil site removed by mod --
I am also of the opinion that you have way too much time on your hands. For someone who is trying to drive their price down to nothing, you sure have a lot of the more recent phones, that you clearly could have sold to make up for any cost of having a phone in general.
While I am also a former T-mo customer, I gave them my money for 10 years, but honestly I don't think they are offering the best phones this year. As for plans, everyone I know can't touch my 4G speeds. As for customer service, I think Sprint has done a pretty good job with you.
If your just here to get attention, then I'd recommend moving on to the (Insert Next Best Phone Name) forum. The EVO on Sprint 4G clearly is the winner. If you don't have 4G then I can understand your dilemma, but still I highly doubt that you have a T-mo Talk/Text/Data for less than $50. Hell, its probably not less than $70 if your including insurance on your phones.
Good luck.
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Are you in a bad mood man? Geez.
First I never tried driving their price down, I called about possibly porting my number and what the process is. The rep was the one asking questions and was being cool about wanting me to stay. So he offered me a discount.
And yes it's cheaper for me to go back to tmobile even with my 27% sprint discount. We have had a family plan with tmobile for 8 years, so adding my line back would only be $5 and an additional $30 for Internet.
Maybe I do have to much time in my hands, but I've never complained about prices or tried to brag about my phone being the best. I understand there are always new phones coming out and thankfully I have had the ability to try out a lot of them. I just like phones and the evo is among the best I have liked, but far from being a clear cut winner. I'm not one of those guys that think my phone is the best in the world and out down every other phone, i like to try out a lot of different phones if I'm able to, and enjoy it.
I guess I'll just enjoy my Evo and it's awesome screen size.

T-Mobile is a dying company I think, they gotta step up their game. They have lost 25% of revenue compared to last year.

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T-Mobile is a dying company I think, they gotta step up their game. They have lost 25% of revenue compared to last year.
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Could be dying, maybe sprint will be dying too but if they keep releasing bad ass phones they should be fine

2 year xda member and finally... reached my 100th post

Yeah I love the Evo probably one of the best phones I have used. I hear people complain that t-mo coverage is not that good in my area so that would be reason alone for me to stick with Sprint.

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Calm down no need to get your panties in a bunch. Only one ranting is yourself.
Yes the nexus has been out since jan that's already been stated. Thanks for that bit of info. But it still has the same processor as the evo, though an older version. Yet it is still overclocked much faster than your evo.
Front facing camera, unlockable (lol did you really list that?), htc sense (lol? Anyone can flash that), 4g, skinny (hardly, compared to other smart phones it's quiet bulky, hence the pocket theater)... All these features can be found on many phones...front facing camera is over rated I can do without. How many video calls have you made in the past month?
Trackball great for alerts I don't even have to turn on my phone to get notifications.
With that being said, I'm glad you are happy with your evo, enjoy
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Evo isn't restricted to 30fps anymore either
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amdchip said:
Could be dying, maybe sprint will be dying too but if they keep releasing bad ass phones they should be fine
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Never, they have free mobile to mobile any company, unlimited web and text for great price, sprint rocks
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I was not trying to badger the OP. As a matter of fact I am a former T-mo customer and was very happy with it.
Is the reason your plan a T-mo is cheaper because you are on a family plan there and not a family plan at Sprint? If thats the case then its apples to oranges.
To the Nexus Guy. It was a very good phone and I was seriously considering it when it finally became available on a plan rate. But that didn't happen till AFTER the Evo came out. I was on the phone with T-mo monthly to find out when that would happen. They could never give me an answer. So I took the plunge and got the EVO and never looked back.
T-mo's HSPA in my area is garbage. Seven guys I work (in Tampa) with have the Galaxy, and all of them claim 2-4Mbps. I get regularly 6.5Mbps. It may get better, but it isn't right now.
Processor? Seriously dude? if thats all you got with the Nexus, then you need to sit down. Developers phone? Seriously? Ever heard of Root? Oh yeah... all of T-mo's new phones are getting lock down. FPS? Spend more time on XDA preeze. Sprint unlocked it about 2 months ago. XDA did it even longer.
Nexus is a beautiful thing. But I am sorry, it is inferior to the EVO in about every possible way.

What would it take to make you happy?

I've noticed everybody is very unhappy lately here in this great place most of us spend the majority of our day. So, let's talk.... what would make you happy? (REALISTICALLY)
What phone? What prices? What features on a phone? What features on a ROM? Etc.... Be as detailed as possible and keep it realistic!
Me? I would like a nice phone, doesn't have to be dual-core, that's just e-boner talk right now. 1.2Ghz+, 4.3'' screen, Gingerbread, full HD recording, hardware acceleration, a nice front camera with flash and some of the features from MIUI like visitor mode and a theme gallery. Oh yeah... and a ****ing trackball.

Honestly?! I just want my old discount and premier policies back and no $10 tax on non-4G phones. Basically, I want to go back to how things were not too long ago. I was really happy then.
I am patient enough for a new device. The EVO is making the wait quite enjoyable.

akarol said:
Honestly?! I just want my old discount and premier policies back and no $10 tax on non-4G phones. Basically, I want to go back to how things were not too long ago. I was really happy then.
I am patient enough for a new device. The EVO is making the wait quite enjoyable.
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I wish, but higher speeds mean more money, just like home internet, cable, gas consumption, pretty much anything on earth. The more it is, the more it costs.

I want the mods to stop deleting threads.
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DirtyShroomz said:
I wish, but higher speeds mean more money, just like home internet, cable, gas consumption, pretty much anything on earth. The more it is, the more it costs.
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Quality also relates to money, and nobody can argue that Sprint is lacking. 4G so far has been a flop with Sprint. Coverage is lacking. And lately their hardware is on a downward spiral. They should be desperate... and with desperation, consumers should rule!

akarol said:
Honestly?! I just want my old discount and premier policies back and no $10 tax on non-4G phones. Basically, I want to go back to how things were not too long ago. I was really happy then.
I am patient enough for a new device. The EVO is making the wait quite enjoyable.
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I concur. +1
PS. My name is HondaCop and I approve this message.

Simply put;
Evo (2) successor
Dualcore
4G
SLCD
4-4.5" screen
Kickstand
And that's it.
I get the folks hating on the mandatory $10 charge ... and the status changes ...
Plans, as they are - even with the $10 fee either way, are good with me. Seem to be in the minority that actually find this a plus. Feel like people want to complain just for the sake of complaining. The status hype, I get that one. That sucks. Maybe if they could do it so that if you spent a year with a "4G" phone than after said year was done, you could qualify for that upgrade everyone wants. The others have to deal. Sprint, in that regard, would need to straighten some ish up ... but that might go a ways for some. Regardless, plans seem to not be that bad IMO and I'd be happy / and will be happy with them. I don't be d over for anyone, mind you. Thankfully I'm not getting "raped" like some seem to think they are.

Good thread!
I'd like my yearly upgrades back, and my student discount to be applied to all lines again, not just the first two...But, REALISTICALLY, all it would take to make me happy would be non-suckass 200kbps down 3G speeds and it'd be nice if I actually received calls, not just got random voicemails hours later...it makes running a business fairly hard.
The past 3 months I've never seen over 200kbps down (except when I was in grand rapids, mi, then I got 2.3mbps down). The thing that gets me is, here locally, it's 200kbps down, but almost always at least 1mbps up, sometimes 1.5. I don't get it. It really pisses me off. Also, at times, some towers have 0 ZERO download, but upload works perfectly fine.
To summarize:
- At least 600kbps down on 3G
- Actually get phone calls, not just random voicemails
Perks to keep me around:
- Yearly upgrades (again)
- Student discount on 3rd+ lines
- Better 4G service (2 bars would be nice)
- No need for an airave at my house and office
I'm perfectly happy with my EVO, but will be switching back to att ASAP.

hmm, for me it would be.
preferably dual core (I truly believe this would make the UI function much much more smoothly)
candy bar phone with similar screen size to the evo and a nicer looking screen
unlockable bootloader with a full compliment of fastboot commands (or at least an engineering leak)
no fps cap
a 3D screen would be nice if they are far along enough to be worth it
more internal memory
Headphone jack
And of course updates...
4G, a replaceable battery and a sd card are all things that it must have before I even consider switching to it. The old sprint premier perks would also be nice since I've had the same phone number with sprint for over a decade yet they say I've only been a customer for something like 6 years
edit: ohh yeah, a rich blonde to go along with it would make me happy as well

The one thing that would make the Evo perfect would be a way to get the dust out from under the screen.

What would it take to make me happy? All the complainers to leave.
Sprint is working on their 4g coverage, patience is a virtue.
Sprint announced the Evo at CTIA, how about waiting for the next CTIA before freaking out like kids who don't think they're getting a bike for xmas, patience is a virtue.
The $10/month is probably what's funding more 4g in more areas more quickly. Charging it to non-4g phones is NONE OF OUR CONCERN, WE HAVE A 4G PHONE! Soon, it'll be everywhere, patience is a virtue.
People to understand that economies change and sometimes that doesn't suit our best interests. If you've got the money to jump **** and buy every brand new device that comes out on the market, then you're too rich for me to give a damn about your opinions. Open up an "I hate Sprint" forum and get the hell outta here. Some of us are getting sick of all this. PATIENCE IS A VIRTUE!

Being able to go pickup my Thunderbolt today would make me happy.

DirtyShroomz said:
Me? I would like a nice phone, doesn't have to be dual-core, that's just e-boner talk right now. 1.2Ghz+, 4.3'' screen, Gingerbread, full HD recording, hardware acceleration, a nice front camera with flash and some of the features from MIUI like visitor mode and a theme gallery. Oh yeah... and a ****ing trackball.
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1. The above, plus plain vanilla android, with root access out of the box, and direct updates from Google.
2. My premier status restored. I am OK with not giving new customers the old perks, but they shouldn't be taken away from existing customers, kind of like having a grandfathered plan.
These two things would make me a very happy long-time customer. (Been with Sprint since '98, but only 7 years consecutive. Actually, I've never used another provider...I just didn't have a cell for 3 years).

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=948413
Id be happy if this rumored EVO 2 was true. That would pretty much take a huge dump on the Atrix, thunderbolt, bionic and every other phone that has been announced so far. That chipset gpu combo would be a techies wet dream literally. Just let it be true....we'll soon find out.

To be perfectly honest I am content with my Evo. I'm not really interested in what they are coming out with next being that I just got my Evo 2 months ago. My Hero held me over as long as it could and now the Evo will do the same. A few things I am not too happy about include the $10 extra premium for internet usage. I have never used enough data to justify paying extra. Maybe they should just charge the people who are always exceeding the data cap. I wouldn't mind paying it if I actually got respectable speeds and used it excessively. According to Sprint I am in an area with excellent coverage however never have a full signal. And like everyone else I would like the 1 year upgrades back.
And like ZeroGI, I want a forum specifically for all the one liner threads and complainers. I'm tired of 50 threads of bull**** before I can even get to the stuff I'm looking for. IMHO threads should need to be approved before they are posted.

if i could get 1 thing .. that will make me feel better about all the changes and charges.
if the data speeds would be closer to what is marketd. coverage, consistancy, and penetration.
3G higher than 1mb
4G higher than 5mb
currently it is **** slow for both .. and you are lucky if you can get 4G at all (in a 4G area).
I think if the Data speeds and coverage was better, then all the other crap is understandable and acceptable.
Phones will come out.. not a big concern like others here.
Price... inflation is a *****.. but what u going to do?

Dan330 said:
if i could get 1 thing .. that will make me feel better about all the changes and charges.
if the data speeds would be closer to what is marketd. coverage, consistancy, and penetration.
3G higher than 1mb
4G higher than 5mb
currently it is **** slow for both .. and you are lucky if you can get 4G at all (in a 4G area).
I think if the Data speeds and coverage was better, then all the other crap is understandable and acceptable.
Phones will come out.. not a big concern like others here.
Price... inflation is a *****.. but what u going to do?
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That's how I feel, and like I mentioned I wouldn't mind paying the extra prices for data if it was actually usable. I don't get 4G yet, hopefully soon. I find myself using WIFI from my home and various other locations while I'm out and about. I honestly have only used 306,000KB in my last month of service because it's so damn slow. I can't even tether because it's so slow.

I just don't get all the "stop the complaining" stuff. We pay good money to Sprint for our access to their network. Their is plenty of exciting stuff coming out for Android on the other three major carriers. Leaked and confirmed. Have you seen one leak regarding Sprint? Sure, I realize they may offer up something soon but where is the buzz to keep you engaged? They certainly created buzz with their "Industry First" announcement then they threw out a Tonka toy. Our provider of choice NEEDS to hear that we are informed customers who won't stand for BS like that and if nothing enticing is coming down the chute they are going to have a high turnover. Plain and simple.

I'd like my 3G speeds back. I use to be able to hit 1.6 Mbps going down on 3G with no problems just a few months ago. Now, I'm lucky to get 25% of that regardless of where I am or what time it is.
Maybe Sprint should upgrade their existing infrastructure to handle all the new customers they have gotten instead of spending so much money on 4G, Nascar, and paying David Blaine to show up at the release of that atrocious Kyocera phone.

aburgthing said:
I just don't get all the "stop the complaining" stuff. We pay good money to Sprint for our access to their network. Their is plenty of exciting stuff coming out for Android on the other three major carriers. Leaked and confirmed. Have you seen one leak regarding Sprint? Sure, I realize they may offer up something soon but where is the buzz to keep you engaged? They certainly created buzz with their "Industry First" announcement then they threw out a Tonka toy. Our provider of choice NEEDS to hear that we are informed customers who won't stand for BS like that and if nothing enticing is coming down the chute they are going to have a high turnover. Plain and simple.
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Very commendable that you as well as others want to get the point across to Sprint however this isn't a Sprint complaint forum. If people want to tell Sprint how they feel they should write letters directly to them. Everyone on these forums has at least one gripe about our beloved network of choice and if we all started a thread to express those complaints that's all this forum would consist of.

[DEBATE] Motorola Triumph - Virgin Mobile - Ideas?

Hello everyone, I thought since there isn't a dedicated VM or triumph thread I would kinda start one. I am currently on Verizon but I am tired of paying $90 a month on service, when I could be paying 1/4 of that. I have excellent sprint coverage in my area and I have no intentions of leaving my city anytime soon.
But, the big thing about my desire to make a move is the new Motorola Triumph. It looks like a very nice phone, and for me to get a new android phone (sold my Thunderbolt... like an ass), it would cost about $150 for a POS or well used droid. I don't want that... I could spend $100 and get a brand new, 4" phone. Of course this leads to a problem, what is it going to cost.
All in all, I have 2 debate points:
1. Sprint has wonderful service in my area, better than AT&T and T-Mobile, but not as good as Verizon. I DO know that I am willing to have one less bar and slower data to save $60 a month. Also, I don't travel where Sprint doesn't have service, so roaming is a moot point to me, although to some people that shouldn't be a non-factor, as VM doesn't roam out of sprint's network (trade offs... pfft). All in all, a good deal right? Anyone from NC (near the coast) have experience? What is your overall experience if you have them?
2.Virgin Mobile's android phones follow a trend, sell the phone for ~ 50% of retail. I'll prove it:
Optimus S $299 | Optimus V $149 and Samsung Transform (Sprint no longer offers the Intercept) $350 | Samsung Intecept $199 (I see it all the time on sale at BB for $175)
What this leads me to believe is you simply need to find the equivalent phone and simply slash it's price in half, +/- $50. I believe the EVO is the closest match, so take half of that price and you get roughly $225, according to Sprint. Therefore, I believe the triumph will be $250.
^^^ does this make sense and does any one agree/disagree and want to prove a counter point? ^^^
btw, I went to law school, but had to stop due to my lack of finances, but I am a very good debater, and I find a good conversation rousing. Please indulge me!!

IISiDeK1CKII said:
Hello everyone, I thought since there isn't a dedicated VM or triumph thread I would kinda start one. I am currently on Verizon but I am tired of paying $90 a month on service, when I could be paying 1/4 of that. I have excellent sprint coverage in my area and I have no intentions of leaving my city anytime soon.
But, the big thing about my desire to make a move is the new Motorola Triumph. It looks like a very nice phone, and for me to get a new android phone (sold my Thunderbolt... like an ass), it would cost about $150 for a POS or well used droid. I don't want that... I could spend $100 and get a brand new, 4" phone. Of course this leads to a problem, what is it going to cost.
All in all, I have 2 debate points:
1. Sprint has wonderful service in my area, better than AT&T and T-Mobile, but not as good as Verizon. I DO know that I am willing to have one less bar and slower data to save $60 a month. Also, I don't travel where Sprint doesn't have service, so roaming is a moot point to me, although to some people that shouldn't be a non-factor, as VM doesn't roam out of sprint's network (trade offs... pfft). All in all, a good deal right? Anyone from NC (near the coast) have experience? What is your overall experience if you have them?
2.Virgin Mobile's android phones follow a trend, sell the phone for ~ 50% of retail. I'll prove it:
Optimus S $299 | Optimus V $149 and Samsung Transform (Sprint no longer offers the Intercept) $350 | Samsung Intecept $199 (I see it all the time on sale at BB for $175)
What this leads me to believe is you simply need to find the equivalent phone and simply slash it's price in half, +/- $50. I believe the EVO is the closest match, so take half of that price and you get roughly $225, according to Sprint. Therefore, I believe the triumph will be $250.
^^^ does this make sense and does any one agree/disagree and want to prove a counter point? ^^^
btw, I went to law school, but had to stop due to my lack of finances, but I am a very good debater, and I find a good conversation rousing. Please indulge me!!
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$299
speculation wrong
lol, go look it up on bestbuy's site

Like pre-order prices haven't been wrong before... Look at the Xoom. No need to be rude.

The Triumph's specs closely resembles the HTC HD2, using the same Snapdragon 1Ghz processor. The HD2 however uses a AMD z430. The Triumph is listed to have a Adreno 205 GPU. The RAM between the HD2 and the Triumph is 448MB RAM versus the 512MB that's listed (could change). Triumph has a 4.1" display versus HD2's 4.3" -I've held a similar phone from a friend's AT&T Samsung Captivate which is 4" and I felt comfortable typing on the keyboard (big guy with big hands) -I don't think 4.1" will cause much discomfort amongst us big-screen aficionados especially if one is coming off of HTC HD2 or its EVO cousin.
I've searched for similar phones that had the Adreno GPU to get an idea of how the Triumph would handle itself under real-world application. The ideal phones owners to ask about are those who have the HTC G2 uses a similar Qualcomm chipset (Scorpion 800 & Adreno 205) setup that closely resembles the Triumph.
I also saw some interesting information at smartphonebenchmarks.com that explains away iterations of the Adreno GPU (200, 205, and 220). I think the performance on the Triumph will be a tad less than the Droid X but much better than say the LG Optimus One (or V for VM owners) which uses an Adreno 200.
As for VM themselves. I've recently starting using them since June and I like the performance so far. Using a Samsung Intercept I'm pleased with their coverage area as well as the data performance. I can't comment on speed since Intercept uses the EVDO Rev. 0 but it's stable for me in the coverage area.

alpha-niner64 said:
As for VM themselves. I've recently starting using them since June and I like the performance so far. Using a Samsung Intercept I'm pleased with their coverage area as well as the data performance. I can't comment on speed since Intercept uses the EVDO Rev. 0 but it's stable for me in the coverage area.
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I have a similar experience. I recently got the Intercept, rooted it and added barnacle. Nice and simple, works good, coverage is as good as ATT so far. I will be moving my whole family next month to VM and save $100 per month. For me, I am going to preorder the Triumph tonight when I get home from work.

A little off topic. I'm not very familar with VM. I have a Vibrant and use next to no voice, but a lot of data. This looks like an Android phone not too much different than the Vibrant. Can I really get unlimited data for $25/month?
I presume its Sprint's 3G only.
Can it act as a hotspot?
Have VM's Android phones been rooted and is there a developer community working on custom roms?

Love the thought of a new Triumph.
They say unlimited data, web, text, email, etc.
Hotspot is simple as pie on Intercept. Triumph will be harder since the phone is new and no one has tried the exploit yet.

I'm taking the plunge and cancelling my tmo service in favor of vm. Saving over 50 a month is way too appealing. Worst thing is justifying the 300 for the phone since anything I get for my MT4G will go towards my ETF.
Triumph will be a fun switch from my phone. I just hope some folks will dev for it.
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I think I will test it out and worse come to worse I'll just return the phone.

IISiDeK1CKII said:
I think I will test it out and worse come to worse I'll just return the phone.
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I just came to the same conclusion too. Have you officially made the switch yet? If so, was it worth it? Details man! Details!

I love my triumph! I have unlimited everything and it costs me 55$ a month after taxes. No decreased speed after 5 gb like T-Mobile, fastest 3G yet (over att or T-Mobile) Oh, and I just flashed Cyanogenmod 7.1. and the gingerbread is much much quicker and more responsive. Easy to root easy to mod, snappy snapdragon processor and now wifi hotspots enabled! (previously blocked by the virgen firmware) camera not functional yet but the devs are working extremely fast with this handset and am confident that full functionality is only weeks away. Thanks Cyanogen mod! Keep up the good work! p.s. Triumph faster than my old captivate and I tried just about all the rom's for it -addict-ord