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Who is considering this phone?

I am a little, but the lemon in this whole thing is T-Mobile. They are cheap, have android but they don't have good service. I am on at&t and I am loving them(less and less apparently), and I want android again!
Anyone else in this same boat with the decision? I hope its faster when it gets released. Whats the ram and rom on this thing?

I have tmo and I have never had a problem let alone a dropped call. . . Also, if you live in major areas, anywhere near NYC, you are good to go no matter what carrier you have.
That being said I really like tmo for the service and support I get from them.

i have tmo also and never had any problems 3g works fine calls never drop. so the question of will i get a N1 most definitely and $530 is not to much to pay for the phone. and the ones who payd $699 for the i phone (plus contract) on the release cant talk

I've had T-Mobile for years now. They are pretty good. The only downside is that I don't get signal in school in some classrooms. But aren't I supposed to not be using a cellphone in class ?
The N1 has 512 MB RAM/ROM so it's pretty legit!

I have never once got a dropped call with tmobile. Bunch of friends have jesus phones (iphones) and always get terrible reception, dropped calls, sudden loss of signal, etc. My 3G is also faster then every friend's iphone when doing speed tests side by side. Throw in tmobile's excellent customer service, and you have an amazing cell company. I haven't had any issues with them whatsoever. I just called them yesterday morning and asked for an unlock code for my G1 and with no questions asked, they took my IMEI and email and said it would take 24 hours to get the code from the manufacturer. I got the code in my email a few hours ago. Seriously, people dont give tmobile enough credit. They call them the smallest of the big three, sure, but the smallest have to do a lot more than Verizon and AT&T to win over customers.

considering this phone? It's a must have for many!

Wanted to add this...
Since so many people are complaining about the unsubsidized price and crying about it being so much, I’ve crunched the numbers to calculate what the “real price” of the phone is when you buy it for $180 and sign a contract for a higher monthly payment. Note that the service you’re paying for is identical… you’re just paying more per month if you buy the phone subsidized.
Based on that information, using the prices of the 500 minute plans that T-mo offers, the “real price” of the phone when you pay $180 upfront is $660! How'd I come to this number? By subsidizing the phone, you agree to pay an extra $20 per month for the plan. That equals $480. $480+180=$660.
If Google was like Apple, they would be charging us over $600 for the unlocked and unsubsidized phone...

I am definitely fighting the wife over the unlocked price so I can get one. I seem to be winning so I might be getting one.
I have had T-Mobile for since '05, and I have never had any issues. Every year so far, I have gotten a new phone, 3 out of 4 have been full upgrades (supposed to be every 2 years) and the other was a partial. I have had exceptional help from customer service as I have a phone on my plan that resides outside of any T-mobile coverage (its actually funny, the phone runs off ATT towers... on a T-mobile plan... go figure). I have only had 1 dropped call in the last few years that I can think of. I live in Dayton OH, and we just got upgraded to 3g about 3 months ago. I am quite happy with T-Mobile. They are making giant strides to improving their network.
Edit: On a side note, I have used T-mobile extensively in Georgia(3 years), Texas(6 months) and now Ohio (6 months) and the network has been great in each of the locations. Also, having driven up and down the east coast at least 4 or 5 times from Vermont to Florida, I can say that the T-Mobiles network has been great, at least near the major highways. Heck it even worked great when I was in Alaska for a month.

Can I ask, why would someoen get this over the HTC variant?
Makes no sense considering the HTC Varient would have greater support and would have sense,

The HTC variant probably wont be a "google experience" device...but who knows.

Maedhros said:
Can I ask, why would someoen get this over the HTC variant?
Makes no sense considering the HTC Varient would have greater support and would have sense,
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Personally, I'd rather have updates as soon as they come out, not after HTC updates SenseUI to work with updated Android releases.

The only reason that I am considering getting this phone over waiting for the Bravo is this forum. I have faith that the devs here can hook up a rom that will do pretty much anything on the Nexus that the Bravo or Passion can do. I could be wrong, and if I am let me know! I don't want to buy a phone that won't live up to standards that are 3 months down the road.

i know i am i have a touch pro 2 with tmobile i actually love the keyboard & everything but tmobiles version of the phone is the ugliest of the 4 companies & 2 of my friends have the sprint version which looks & is shaped much better & they keep rubbing it in my face (even though i got mines months b4 them) plus im bored of windows mobile so good buy tp2 hello nexus!!!!

Screw sense ui. i want stock android on a phone with 512mb RAM and a 1ghz processor. sign me up for the list of people getting this phone as soon as it is available.

david1171 said:
Screw sense ui. i want stock android on a phone with 512mb RAM and a 1ghz processor. sign me up for the list of people getting this phone as soon as it is available.
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This is what I want too. I don't want some junked up UI being pushed on me. Thats one big reason I can't even get myself to consider the SE X10. I don't want a UI. I want vanilla Android that I can alter as I want.
If I want a UI, flashing a ROM works for me.

Does anyone know, if they ship it to Europe?
If they do, I will buy it asap

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i'll buy a nexus, after a couple of months worth of other people using it and posting it's cons/pros.
why ?
the processor, and ram
and
two very major companies are trying to help people understand that BUYING something means you OWN it... as opposed to signing a effing contract with some service provider, for 2x what a device and service is worth. some day, americans will see the light and stop financing so much simple crap. i hope.

Of crouse i am hah! Even made a site for it! pshh n1user.com

I'll get one. Why? I want a native Google Phone and do hope that the softwaresupport would be very good (like the G1 at least) and we'll get all major updates. I don't like Sense anyway.

I'll probably get one because my iPhone sucks (some of the games and stuff are cool, but the overall performance isn't that good) and i don't want a WM-phone again.

One more day left..

For my Sprint 30 day guarantee. Tomorrow is the last day I can return my Evo and walk away without a termination fee. Im coming from Tmobile and have used just about all their phones and all iphones, and the Evo holds its own. I love the screen size, and its build quality. But the main thing ive liked is the 3g coverage, its no where near as fast as Tmobile in my area, but i do alot of highway driving and get 1mb plus everywhere. With Tmobile once i started getting away from the city it would drop to edge. I guess ill go play with tmobiles new Mytouch 4g and make my decision there. I just sold the g2 i had which i hated, but I still own my Vibrant and iphone 4 so i could always go back.
But so far what I Like:
Screen size!!!!!
Build quality!
Dual Flash
3g Coverage
Development support.
What I dont like:
Super amoled looks wayy better.
3g is slower but still fine (Evo= 1mb+ to Vibrant=5mb downloads)
Graphics Suck. Live wallpaper slows it down, and 3d gaming is barely playable
Sprints Customer service is no where near as good as Tmobiles.

Oh yeah after a talk with sprints retention departmnet, They waived my actication fee, and provided me with a credit of $50 since I mentioned the Evo could be acquired online for $150, just in order to keep my service. And right at the end when I mentioned I would continue to think about it, the rep offered me a $10 credit every month for the rest of the contract (24months). This would kick in on my next billing cycle.
My 27% discount would also kick in next bill, making my total bill $50 plus tax which is still a little more than if id return to tmobile

Kinda hard to argue with those discounts, not a bad deal right there.
But I can't understand how you like AMOLED screens more, YUCK! They always look odd to me, too blue or too vibrant and kind of pixel-y? They are more readable in some situations but still I think they look awful.

Not gonna lie... i really like the new myTouch. I am a fan of sense... also, hspa+ rocks in my area, and gsm is easier on battery than cdma. Add to that our wimax radios... lol, still love my evo though...

Is say they earned your business, man that makes me think I need to complain more..lol
The ten dollars off every month would more then compensate for the cost of the phone its self.
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After having the Evo I just dont see how i can ever own anything smaller than a 4.3in screen. Ill more than likely stick with The evo untill sprint or another carrier releases a highend 4.3in that isnt lock down. I do love the phone, just wished it could handle graphics better.
With the discounts im getting and the coolness of the Evo ill probably stick to Sprint for now unless the mytouch4g blows me away, which at 3.8in I dont think it will.
Now the Nexus S/2 could be interesting.

I was happy getting a 23% discount from --removed by mod--
I am also of the opinion that you have way too much time on your hands. For someone who is trying to drive their price down to nothing, you sure have a lot of the more recent phones, that you clearly could have sold to make up for any cost of having a phone in general.
While I am also a former T-mo customer, I gave them my money for 10 years, but honestly I don't think they are offering the best phones this year. As for plans, everyone I know can't touch my 4G speeds. As for customer service, I think Sprint has done a pretty good job with you.
If your just here to get attention, then I'd recommend moving on to the (Insert Next Best Phone Name) forum. The EVO on Sprint 4G clearly is the winner. If you don't have 4G then I can understand your dilemma, but still I highly doubt that you have a T-mo Talk/Text/Data for less than $50. Hell, its probably not less than $70 if your including insurance on your phones.
Good luck.

Brutal-Force said:
I was happy getting a 23% discount from --removed--.
I am also of the opinion that you have way too much time on your hands. For someone who is trying to drive their price down to nothing, you sure have a lot of the more recent phones, that you clearly could have sold to make up for any cost of having a phone in general.
While I am also a former T-mo customer, I gave them my money for 10 years, but honestly I don't think they are offering the best phones this year. As for plans, everyone I know can't touch my 4G speeds. As for customer service, I think Sprint has done a pretty good job with you.
If your just here to get attention, then I'd recommend moving on to the (Insert Next Best Phone Name) forum. The EVO on Sprint 4G clearly is the winner. If you don't have 4G then I can understand your dilemma, but still I highly doubt that you have a T-mo Talk/Text/Data for less than $50. Hell, its probably not less than $70 if your including insurance on your phones.
Good luck.
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First off, nothing wrong with having all the latest and greatest phones out, it's by far the best way to find out which phone you personally like best. If I could afford it I'd do it too.
Second, evo is hardly the winner. All phones have their downfalls and can be considered better than others in their own right.
My nexus can be considered better than your evo for a number of reasons.
1. Google owns android. Nexus is google's baby. It is also a developers phone.when android releases froyo, gingerbread, etc. who is the first to get it? Me. Have fun waiting months for yours to update, or for some samsung owners, possibly never.
2. I'm hitting 60 fps, enjoy your 30 fps. You may have a bigger screen but can't fully enjoy it. Playing 3d games on the evo is atrocious.
3. Sprints 4g service had been highly touted this I know. But recent testing done by cnet, which I consider highly reliable and non bias; shows in NY sprints 4g getting 2-3mb whereas tmobiles hspa+ getting 5-6mb and it's not even considered true 4g lol but it doubled sprints. Now of course mileage will very.
Don't get me wrong, evo is a great phone. it's like having a portable theater in your pocket. It took me about three weeks of intense research comparing top phones on all carriers to reach a decision. I was hesitant to get the nexus considering how old it is, released in january. But it still using the same processor as many off the newer phones including evo, the 1ghz snapdragon. Yes your chip has been updated but mines still faster lol. And I like using a developer phone and getting updates before anyone else. Some may consider updates not that big of deal but froyo increased browser speed up to 30%, not something I'd want to wait months for to enjoy.
Oh and I have to say I love the trackball. Comes in handy for selecting text or other tight spots while browsing. I can also have it blink different colors: red for missed text, blue for missed call, green for voicemail, orange for email, purple for low battery, works for notifications as well.
It's nice having all this information without even turning on my phone.
This is officially by far the longest thing I've typed out on my nexus, got to love swype lol.

The nexus one is outdated. No matter what you say. Gingerbread is rumored to come out Nov 11 and its main feature is an integtrated video chat app. Nexi don't have a front facing camera. So right there goggles baby will be handicapped with that feature. I love the nexus a year ago when it came out but data speeds aren't nothing to brag about especially if its a matter of seconds. I think the mytouch 4G is ugly, it has to much bezeling on the side. A trackball is not needed when you have a big a$$ screen. And super amoled screens have been known to burn-in the screens. All the features there's no other phone that has what the evo can offer.
Front facing camera
Kickstand
Unlockable
Sense (which is the next best thing to vanilla)
4g capable
Capacitive buttons
Skinny
Sexy looking phone
Your making a rant in the evo section , in perfectly happy with my evo. Of all the phones I've owned this is by the far the best. With features and functionality in account.
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magicriggs said:
The nexus one is outdated. No matter what you say. Gingerbread is rumored to come out Nov 11 and its main feature is an integtrated video chat app. Nexi don't have a front facing camera. So right there goggles baby will be handicapped with that feature. I love the nexus a year ago when it came out but data speeds aren't nothing to brag about especially if its a matter of seconds. I think the mytouch 4G is ugly, it has to much bezeling on the side. A trackball is not needed when you have a big a$$ screen. And super amoled screens have been known to burn-in the screens. All the features there's no other phone that has what the evo can offer.
Front facing camera
Kickstand
Unlockable
Sense (which is the next best thing to vanilla)
4g capable
Capacitive buttons
Skinny
Sexy looking phone
Your making a rant in the evo section , in perfectly happy with my evo. Of all the phones I've owned this is by the far the best. With features and functionality in account.
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Calm down no need to get your panties in a bunch. Only one ranting is yourself.
Yes the nexus has been out since jan that's already been stated. Thanks for that bit of info. But it still has the same processor as the evo, though an older version. Yet it is still overclocked much faster than your evo.
Front facing camera, unlockable (lol did you really list that?), htc sense (lol? Anyone can flash that), 4g, skinny (hardly, compared to other smart phones it's quiet bulky, hence the pocket theater)... All these features can be found on many phones...front facing camera is over rated I can do without. How many video calls have you made in the past month?
Trackball great for alerts I don't even have to turn on my phone to get notifications.
With that being said, I'm glad you are happy with your evo, enjoy

I actually use the front facing camera a lot. I chat with other evo and iPhone 4 users. Given the ratio its pretty thin. And what's wrong with using the same processor. You want a better processor then go to Samsung galaxy s series. Good luck with the gps on there tho. Humming bird processor blows everyone out of the water. When I mean unlockable I mean the boot loader is not on lock down. And not everyone phone can flash sense, DX or D2 can't. Which are the newer phones comparable to the evo. You were seriously contemplating leaving Sprint to go with t-mobile cause of data speeds in a restricted area. Kinda of ironic cause the only thing that you sound to be proud of on the nexus is the processor speed. Processor speed don't mean **** if you don't got 3G or WiFi connection. Edge sucks on tmo and ill take Sprints 3G even tho I have the same processor as your sexi Nexi.

Scoobasteves: Evo is just as fps unlocked as nexus, that's old news.
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Brutal-Force said:
I was happy getting a 23% discount from --evil site removed by mod --
I am also of the opinion that you have way too much time on your hands. For someone who is trying to drive their price down to nothing, you sure have a lot of the more recent phones, that you clearly could have sold to make up for any cost of having a phone in general.
While I am also a former T-mo customer, I gave them my money for 10 years, but honestly I don't think they are offering the best phones this year. As for plans, everyone I know can't touch my 4G speeds. As for customer service, I think Sprint has done a pretty good job with you.
If your just here to get attention, then I'd recommend moving on to the (Insert Next Best Phone Name) forum. The EVO on Sprint 4G clearly is the winner. If you don't have 4G then I can understand your dilemma, but still I highly doubt that you have a T-mo Talk/Text/Data for less than $50. Hell, its probably not less than $70 if your including insurance on your phones.
Good luck.
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Are you in a bad mood man? Geez.
First I never tried driving their price down, I called about possibly porting my number and what the process is. The rep was the one asking questions and was being cool about wanting me to stay. So he offered me a discount.
And yes it's cheaper for me to go back to tmobile even with my 27% sprint discount. We have had a family plan with tmobile for 8 years, so adding my line back would only be $5 and an additional $30 for Internet.
Maybe I do have to much time in my hands, but I've never complained about prices or tried to brag about my phone being the best. I understand there are always new phones coming out and thankfully I have had the ability to try out a lot of them. I just like phones and the evo is among the best I have liked, but far from being a clear cut winner. I'm not one of those guys that think my phone is the best in the world and out down every other phone, i like to try out a lot of different phones if I'm able to, and enjoy it.
I guess I'll just enjoy my Evo and it's awesome screen size.

T-Mobile is a dying company I think, they gotta step up their game. They have lost 25% of revenue compared to last year.

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T-Mobile is a dying company I think, they gotta step up their game. They have lost 25% of revenue compared to last year.
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Could be dying, maybe sprint will be dying too but if they keep releasing bad ass phones they should be fine

2 year xda member and finally... reached my 100th post

Yeah I love the Evo probably one of the best phones I have used. I hear people complain that t-mo coverage is not that good in my area so that would be reason alone for me to stick with Sprint.

scoobasteves said:
Calm down no need to get your panties in a bunch. Only one ranting is yourself.
Yes the nexus has been out since jan that's already been stated. Thanks for that bit of info. But it still has the same processor as the evo, though an older version. Yet it is still overclocked much faster than your evo.
Front facing camera, unlockable (lol did you really list that?), htc sense (lol? Anyone can flash that), 4g, skinny (hardly, compared to other smart phones it's quiet bulky, hence the pocket theater)... All these features can be found on many phones...front facing camera is over rated I can do without. How many video calls have you made in the past month?
Trackball great for alerts I don't even have to turn on my phone to get notifications.
With that being said, I'm glad you are happy with your evo, enjoy
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Evo isn't restricted to 30fps anymore either
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Could be dying, maybe sprint will be dying too but if they keep releasing bad ass phones they should be fine
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Never, they have free mobile to mobile any company, unlimited web and text for great price, sprint rocks
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I was not trying to badger the OP. As a matter of fact I am a former T-mo customer and was very happy with it.
Is the reason your plan a T-mo is cheaper because you are on a family plan there and not a family plan at Sprint? If thats the case then its apples to oranges.
To the Nexus Guy. It was a very good phone and I was seriously considering it when it finally became available on a plan rate. But that didn't happen till AFTER the Evo came out. I was on the phone with T-mo monthly to find out when that would happen. They could never give me an answer. So I took the plunge and got the EVO and never looked back.
T-mo's HSPA in my area is garbage. Seven guys I work (in Tampa) with have the Galaxy, and all of them claim 2-4Mbps. I get regularly 6.5Mbps. It may get better, but it isn't right now.
Processor? Seriously dude? if thats all you got with the Nexus, then you need to sit down. Developers phone? Seriously? Ever heard of Root? Oh yeah... all of T-mo's new phones are getting lock down. FPS? Spend more time on XDA preeze. Sprint unlocked it about 2 months ago. XDA did it even longer.
Nexus is a beautiful thing. But I am sorry, it is inferior to the EVO in about every possible way.

Question For TMobile Reps

I posted this over on Android Central hoping a TMO rep would chime in
but none did :
I had an NS for a week, didnt like it, and returned it to Best Buy.
They were supposed to reverse the two year contract.
I got my phone bill and it still had the $18 + $1.26 tax upgrade charge.
I called TMO to get that taken off and apparently they hadnt reversed
my contract. So the rep fixed that and took the upgrade charge off.
But the reason for this thread is that she said I didnt have 4G internet.
I got the unlimited Android plan when I got with my pre-buy G1.
I had 3000 minutes in Florida, unlimited web and 400 texts.
A few months later I was told I was eligible for the unlimited loyalty plan
which changed my 3000 Florida only minutes to unlimited in the US.
So after the call yesterday I started looking at the TMO website and
I dont see anywhere where they differentiate web packages between
3G and 4G.
The rep said I wouldnt be able to do video chat because I dont have 4G.
Is this true ?
Anyone know ?
The MT4G is noticeably faster than the N1, NS, and G2.
It made me wonder if what she said is just a line they are told to tell people.
Anyone know if thats possible to block 4G to customers ?
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I am in the Tampa area that has the HSPA+/4G.
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going_home said:
I posted this over on Android Central hoping a TMO rep would chime in
but none did :
I am in the Tampa area that has the HSPA+/4G.
(mods this is about the MT4G)
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As far as I know if your area has 4g and your phone is capable... you should get 4g. When I worked there about three years ago they couldnt block 3g. They can throttle your data usage though.

Great question, however there is no need to change web packages at this time if you are able to keep your grandfathered services. The term "4G Web" is just marketing and does nothing/provides no extra benefit to have the newer features.

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Great question, however there is no need to change web packages at this time if you are able to keep your grandfathered services. The term "4G Web" is just marketing and does nothing/provides no extra benefit to have the newer features.
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Ok thats what I was trying to find out.
I figured they are trained to try and get rid of the older cheaper plans.
The rep said I wouldnt be able to use the video chat if I didnt upgrade my plan to 4G.
My current plan is $24.99 for unlimited data and 400 texts.
She said that plan was not 4g and I would need the 4G package at $30.00 plus
$5.99 for unlimited texts = $35.99. So $11.00 plus tax more.
How can I make sure I already have the HSPA+/4G ?
The phone is much faster than the Nexus One, G2, or Nexus S.

There is no difference between the packages though accept that the regular web wont work unless customer service does something on their end to make it work. I am a T-Mobile RSA and when the MyTouch 4G first launched they were not requiring us in the system to change the web on upgrades so most of the time we didn't then 24 hours later customers where calling us saying their web wasn't working and we figured out it was because we weren't changing the plans. But I have seen those plans like the 24.99 plans work if a customers call and complain correctly lol. But there is no speed difference between the plans it is all the same data speed its a matter of how the phone handles it.

I work alongside Tmobile [read: RadioShack employee], and I'm also in the Tampa Bay area [Burg side]. I can tell you for a fact your internet doesn't have to be a 4g plan. But that being said, in Tmo's systems all the new customers that sign up for web are being placed on a "4g" data plan, as opposed to just "data" as it in the past was called. This may be ramping up to a No FFC switch to be flipped, but at the moment, no complaints from older customers just SIM swapping (from a previous Android). PM for irl contact if you'd like, I can hook you up with my corporate reps info, [or atleast be a middle man between you].
Edit in further reading of the T-Mo rep's post above, we too have had a few cases of that, but only from people coming from what used to be deemed 'phone first' web. Anyone coming from G1, Cliq [xt], MyTouch [3g/Slide], etc haven't had any problem. [I myself included.] Maybe there is a larger issue here depending on what T-Mo serverside [or phone interpretation side] are reading for the plan(s) [as you mentioned.]

The new web features are called 4g, but they replace the old ones. In other words, there is no separate 4g and 3g data features. Some reps are just stupid. As long as you have a web feature that works for your phone, you can get whatever speeds are available in your area.
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When doing any upgrades in a store, the web feature has to be taken off and the required web feature has to be added which is $30. Unless you go with one of the promo plans out right now, which have the data at $20.

deviusdragger said:
When doing any upgrades in a store, the web feature has to be taken off and the required web feature has to be added which is $30. Unless you go with one of the promo plans out right now, which have the data at $20.
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Yeah and the only way around it is to buy the phone full price.
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stoneyjonez said:
Yeah and the only way around it is to buy the phone full price.
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or you can always call retention =O

Nail on the head
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or you can always call retention =O
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i would so trade you my myt4g for your NS all because of its GPU

The GPU war again huh? last we need is kids fighting over GPU now in mobile world lol seen that enough in PC world. BTW don't be fooled SGX540 just wins over Adreno 205 by very small margin as Galaxy S in this arena graphic comes superior in threading and displaying due to Super AMOLED. But if you check carefully due to superior hardware spec (higher ram, 2nd gen proc) it renders faster and smoother than NS. Trust me I know before I bought MT4G I did extended research on every device. DHD is the only one that came close but head to head with MT4G it didn't win in benchmark and only reason I picked it due to bigger screen which I miss since HD2.

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The GPU war again huh? last we need is kids fighting over GPU now in mobile world lol seen that enough in PC world. BTW don't be fooled SGX540 just wins over Adreno 205 by very small margin as Galaxy S in this arena graphic comes superior in threading and displaying due to Super AMOLED. But if you check carefully due to superior hardware spec (higher ram, 2nd gen proc) it renders faster and smoother than NS. Trust me I know before I bought MT4G I did extended research on every device. DHD is the only one that came close but head to head with MT4G it didn't win in benchmark and only reason I picked it due to bigger screen which I miss since HD2.
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Yeah i did my research as well. watch a sh*t load of review, etc I just like the form factor of the nexus s and its one strip of glass so i wouldnt have to worry about light leaking, hard buttons creaking, and with the SAMOLED i dont care much for but i like the extra 2" the GPU isnt too much better but it does run PSX alittle better. also if this phone is dropped it would probably dent lol cause the metal and its supper heavy (i actually like the heavy part) i just wish HTC didnt make it glass, hard buttons, then another plastic part. it just makes it complecated and problems xD i have OCD about phone stuff lol. when i get this phone replaced and get one with a good screen ill be happy then (if i dont get damn creaky buttons) idk if i would wanna go with samsung anyway.. after the behold 2 they fvcked over everyone with that phone.. but google has the NS backed up thats why i thought about it.

I learned long ago about not buying from Samsung as they truly lack the oversight, hence why HTC excels in this field? they are only focused in dominating the mobile field which they have successfully done so and I can say all my device will be HTC based until something else comes along. But thats very hard when 9/10 device that do make in is HTC based lol so they must be doing something right.
Ya I wasn't happy with the display, creaking button and ffc problems with MT4G, I just found it very odd the number of reported was so high as it makes you wonder how it even got passed QC in first place, they must have monkeys lol checking it. My display turn out good along with the button but the FFC is off center as its tilted on the right as its 0.3mp cam I don't care much as I doubt I will ever use it.

Looking at possibly coming over to tmobile to use the 4g network, since I tether with the mytouch 4g.
All plans unlimited text and data
Considering the "no contract plans"
500min @ $59.99 plus tax
1000min @$69.99 plus tax
OR
Sign a two year contract to get another phone, possibly a mytouch 4g for $99 costco or the up coming sale.
1500min @ $79.99 POSSIBLE discount of 15% =$68 plus tax
Ohio state discount for employees or whatever.....Over the phone with a customer rep I was told I just had to provide a valid email. If I give them my osu email this should work although I'm not an employee of the university. Would trade the new mytouch 4g for a nexus s and keep it as a back up. Or just wait for newer 4g phones to come out and purchase one of those.
Question pertains to being able to set up the OSU email on the account, would it work just by giving CS the email? Anyway to set up a discount on the "no contract plans" even more plan

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I learned long ago about not buying from Samsung as they truly lack the oversight, hence why HTC excels in this field? they are only focused in dominating the mobile field which they have successfully done so and I can say all my device will be HTC based until something else comes along. But thats very hard when 9/10 device that do make in is HTC based lol so they must be doing something right.
Ya I wasn't happy with the display, creaking button and ffc problems with MT4G, I just found it very odd the number of reported was so high as it makes you wonder how it even got passed QC in first place, they must have monkeys lol checking it. My display turn out good along with the button but the FFC is off center as its tilted on the right as its 0.3mp cam I don't care much as I doubt I will ever use it.
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Yeah I can agree with you on that. HTC has been my number one device but after the mytouch side and now this... The G1 had better buttons than this. And didn't have light leaking through. Its sad the g1 having better build quality. And evey other phone coming out with a ffc has a 1.3 mp I know mp isn't the thing that counts but 0.3? Lol. I don't think monkeys would've even let it pass haha. Htc messed up the nexis one screen as well.. I think they do perfect on every phone then mess up the stupidest thing that could've been avoided. I don't get it. Its like they don't test their own devices. If it wasn't for the hard buttons and messed ffc and crap screen lol. Those are easy fixes for them to see I'm sure.
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Yeah and the only way around it is to buy the phone full price.
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Thats what I did, bought mine on Craigslist after I returned the NS to Best Buy.
I just dont trust what the rep told me on the phone and I'd like to know
for sure if I actually have HSPA+ or not.

You Have A MyTouch 4G ? You Have 4G !
Ok guys, went to my local TMO company store today in search of an answer
to the question "do I have to upgrade my plan in order to get
HSPA+/4G" .
The answer is no, the original prebuy G1 Android plan gets 4G and there
is no way for TMO to block 4G since technically its 3.5something G anyways.
I went to settings/about phone/network while I was in the store and it said
HSDPA on the phone.
The rep in the store agreed that what the rep told me on the phone was bogus.

G2 or Vibrant

Tomorrow I'm going to T-mobile and I'm going to be upgrading to one of these devices. which one would you choose and for what reasons. thank you

well in a couple of weeks tmobile is going to start selling the vibrant 4g, but if you have to get a phone tomorrow go with the g2, samsung sucks. You will de regret buying a vibrant when less than a month later there is going to be a better version of the same phone out

That's kind of what I was thinking. The G2 is already 4G capable. The vibrants internal storage is nice, but coming from the slide anything is better.
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I would definitely go with the G2... I actually think on tmobile site its free with an upgrade but of course there is that lovely upgrade fee...
My sister has the vibrant.. She had some minor issues with it.. (I say operator issue) but the first phone wouldnt take pictures with less then a half a battery. But rooting it hmm easy but cant get the damn recovery to stick....
I have an upgrade due as well.. But holding out to see what other phones are coming out soon... Not much in the rumor mill besides vibrant 4g, and a few others not worthy enough of mentioning. => cliq2 hahaha sorry see... and the sidekick making a comeback... anyway my choice would be the G2!

Neither. Save your upgrade. 2 years is an eternity to get another break on upgrade pricing. If you're a 3D game player and need the extra processing power for those games then the G2 is a solid performer. If you need Adobe Flash support again the G2 is a solid performer. The only product I would get from Samsung would be a Nexus S or anything Google decides to support as a developer device. I'm regularly getting 5mbps DL speeds from the HSPA network and it is plenty fast for me ... in fact I have to monitor my data usage closely so as not to get throttled. I can't imagine I would need anything faster nor would it benefit me with the current caps in place by TMO. So hold off if you can, the Slide is a very nice Android phone and should hold you over until the next handsets are available (summer?). Just my opinion.

I picked the G2, and I'm not on contract so that doesn't matter. the installment plan works for me. some people probably wouldn't agree with it, but with my plan it works out to about the same per month as getting it for free on a 2 year contract (cheaper actually), plus no two year contract. obviously you have to pay for the device over a certain time period, but again. i'm not gonna go anywhere else. verizon is too expensive, and at&t is at&t. sprint is the only company i would ever give a second look.
back on topic, i picked the G2 over the vibrant for a few reasons. the number one and main reason being the 4G capability. I live in an area that has it and i'm anxious to see how it performs. secondly, the keyboard. i enjoy typing on it so much more than the slide. the buttons on the slide are a little too far apart for my taste. and lastly the stock rom is basic android, which makes me hope for more updates far into the future. the Vibrant is still on eclair, and with the vibrant 4G coming out next month, it doesn't make sense for Tmo and Samsung to support the device for very long, in my opinion.
I did like the screen on the vibrant a little more than the G2.
In conclusion, I'm going to be selling my slide. NJAZ, you are correct in saying that the slide is a solid android phone but the lack of internal memory and lack of support that it is getting doesn't make me fill confident.
Thanks everyone for your advice

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I picked the G2, and I'm not on contract so that doesn't matter. the installment plan works for me. some people probably wouldn't agree with it, but with my plan it works out to about the same per month as getting it for free on a 2 year contract (cheaper actually), plus no two year contract. obviously you have to pay for the device over a certain time period, but again. i'm not gonna go anywhere else. verizon is too expensive, and at&t is at&t. sprint is the only company i would ever give a second look.
back on topic, i picked the G2 over the vibrant for a few reasons. the number one and main reason being the 4G capability. I live in an area that has it and i'm anxious to see how it performs. secondly, the keyboard. i enjoy typing on it so much more than the slide. the buttons on the slide are a little too far apart for my taste. and lastly the stock rom is basic android, which makes me hope for more updates far into the future. the Vibrant is still on eclair, and with the vibrant 4G coming out next month, it doesn't make sense for Tmo and Samsung to support the device for very long, in my opinion.
I did like the screen on the vibrant a little more than the G2.
In conclusion, I'm going to be selling my slide. NJAZ, you are correct in saying that the slide is a solid android phone but the lack of internal memory and lack of support that it is getting doesn't make me fill confident.
Thanks everyone for your advice
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hey naut, jw, how much are you selling the slide for?

thenaut said:
In conclusion, I'm going to be selling my slide. NJAZ, you are correct in saying that the slide is a solid android phone but the lack of internal memory and lack of support that it is getting doesn't make me fill confident.
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I know you're going to love your G2! Wish I would have known it was coming out right after the Slide was released because I certainly would have preferred and waited to use my upgrade discount on the G2. Enjoy!

Well, the vibrant just got froyo. So the flash statement is gone, and the gpu is better than the g2. Either way, I would save the upgrade for the optimus 2x tegra 2.

G2, HSPA+ is a huge pro, flash on the camera (most people don't think about that) and stock Froyo really helps. But I hear it's a pain to flash in comparison to the vibrant.
Vibrant does have a way better GPU though, so if you'll be gaming on the device, that's the way to go.
I concur with what was said above, if you can wait for the vibrant 4G, do it.

no doubt about it, the hardware on the G2 is weak compared to the vibrant. though samsung is certainly not the best with updates, they arent as bad as sony or motorola (on non-Droid devices) the build quality is light and solid, and i love not having moving parts. the only reason a G2 is even in the same league is the fact that the G2 has a bit better dev support.

Moving from Sprint (HTC Evo 4G) to Verizon (Motorola Droid Razr Maxx)

I've been with Sprint for over 10 years, the last 2 of which I've had an HTC Evo 4G (rooted). I'm looking to switch over to Verizon in the next week or so and I'm leaning towards the Motorola Droid Razr Maxx (unless someone has a better suggestion for a top-of-the-line Android offering). I'm looking for some advice/suggestions on how to make the switch - I have Titanium Backups for all of my apps - is it possible to restore these on the Droid Razr Maxx if I root this too? Also, I'm very used to HTC Sense on the Evo 4G - how will this impact the switchover, and is it possible to flash a Sense ROM on this new Verizon phone? Sorry if any of these questions are dumb, I've been stuck in the Sprint world for so long, I don't know what's going on outside of it. Just looking for some tips from people who've made the switch.
Thanks for any help in advance!

I would suggest the Samsung Galaxy S3 as a better phone. You'll find a lot more rom's for it as well, in fact there's already a Sense port for the international version of the S3.
Do you use Google Voice? That will be a big change as there's no native integration like with Sprint. Your apps should restore just fine.

i would also suggest the gs3 or something that is closer to the evo lte (im still a little bit of an htc fanboy tho i do admit im waiting on a gs3 to come my way). if you do use voice integration verizon doesnt have (and i dont think they will at least not with out some market influence of lots of people using it, the only other carrier rumored to be getting it is att) but if not then no biggie for ya

Motorola Droid Razr Maxx screen is ugly...THe evo 4g original has better picture quality IMO...However, Verizon network smokes SPrint anyday..

Thanks, I've heard of both the Samsung Galaxy S3 and the Motorola Droid Razr HD as upcoming Verizon smartphones, potentially worth waiting for. However, release dates for both haven't been released yet, correct? I need a new phone/contract within the next two weeks, so I don't know if these will be an option for me.

want to use my htc evo in pakistan on a network
can any one tell me how can i use my cellphone on my country,s network ??thr r only 2 cdma network connection available in my country what will i need ???

dajoip I would recommend you go play with it in person...my bro in law has the moto razor max. The screen is just ugly when compared to the smooth colorful screen of the EVO...I would def wait or just get the samsung its screen is a lot nice looking.

I'd be willing to wait, if I had a better idea of when either of these phones were going to be released...are there any indications? I checked out the Maxx last night, and while I love the idea of it's ridiculous battery, I wasn't all that excited about the phone itself...

I just spoke with a Verizon rep, they told me it was confirmed that the Samsung Galaxy S3 would be shipping on July 10th.

You see the droid incredible 4g? That is much better then the razor. Much better screen as the maxx has an ugly screen Imo. The battery is not as good as the maxx but it's really good. Sense 4.0 too.

bigshock said:
You see the droid incredible 4g? That is much better then the razor. Much better screen as the maxx has an ugly screen Imo. The battery is not as good as the maxx but it's really good. Sense 4.0 too.
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What makes it much better than the Maxx? I don't see too many negatives with the Maxx, and if it truly has double the battery, I think that's a huge positive...coming from the Evo for the last two years (and that being HTC), I'm skeptical of a smartphone with that small of a battery now - the battery life on it was absolutely atrocious! I'm actually hoping to wait for the Droid Razr HD to be announced/released.

dajoip said:
I've been with Sprint for over 10 years, the last 2 of which I've had an HTC Evo 4G (rooted). I'm looking to switch over to Verizon in the next week or so and I'm leaning towards the Motorola Droid Razr Maxx (unless someone has a better suggestion for a top-of-the-line Android offering). I'm looking for some advice/suggestions on how to make the switch - I have Titanium Backups for all of my apps - is it possible to restore these on the Droid Razr Maxx if I root this too? Also, I'm very used to HTC Sense on the Evo 4G - how will this impact the switchover, and is it possible to flash a Sense ROM on this new Verizon phone? Sorry if any of these questions are dumb, I've been stuck in the Sprint world for so long, I don't know what's going on outside of it. Just looking for some tips from people who've made the switch.
Thanks for any help in advance!
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I've thought about going to Verizon but there phone selection is very sparse. They also recently jack-up their prices on smart-phone contracts.

It's not necessarily "jacked up" - I'll be on a family plan and it's actually the same price with their new prices but we'll have more minutes/data with the new structure.

Verizon is accepting pre-orders of the Samsung Galaxy S3, however they are not carrying it in store as of yet. Pricing I think is $199 for 16GB and $250 for 32GB. You can look up videos of the GS3 to see if you like it. If I had to choose, I would go with it as it is the latest phone they are offering. If anything, if you don't like it (it does look like its a huge phone), just return it within the return window. Or you could keep it until something else comes along, sell it and use the money towards purchasing whatever else comes out.

Or you could wait for the HTC Phablet that its supposed to come out for Verizon.
"Rumors" Don't know how solid that is.
My wife has the Razr Maxx and doesn't have any complaints other then not having ICS 4.0 yet, she charges the phone every 2 days no need for extended battery's.

Motorola + VZW + root = FAIL, the photon on sprint is a pain in the ass to unlock and sprint isn't as strict as VZW with locking bootloaders. Every device on VZW with the exception of the galaxy nexus is a pain to root. VZW didn't get a gs2 model because Samsung refused to lock up the bootloader and VZW doesn't want people rooting their devices. The only reason the nexus isn't locked up tight is because of its reputation as a developers device, and the fact Google made them sign an agreement to get the rights to have the nexus exclusively for a few months before it was released on other US carriers. Sure VZW has fast speeds, they also have capped data and prices that should be considered robbery, they might as well make you pay your bill at gunpoint. Sure, it looks comparable when you're shopping around, until you get your bill and the extra $50-80 in fees and taxes are added in. My mom is on VZW with a family plan, 4 lines, no smartphones, no data plan, unlimited minutes and text and her bill is over $300 a month. It was just around $200 when she was shopping around then after they added $85 in taxes, surcharges and fees it went up to just over $300 and their customer service is outright ****, they don't give a damn about the customers, just the customers money. They will tell you whatever they think you want to hear to get you to sign up, even if it is an outright, bold faced lie.
We are legion, for we are many.

dajoip said:
It's not necessarily "jacked up" - I'll be on a family plan and it's actually the same price with their new prices but we'll have more minutes/data with the new structure.
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actually, you will be sharing less data across numerous devices while paying a monthly access charge per device. Look very closely at the contracts and pricing, it is not a good deal and a trend I hope is not followed by other carriers.

alaman68 said:
actually, you will be sharing less data across numerous devices while paying a monthly access charge per device. Look very closely at the contracts and pricing, it is not a good deal and a trend I hope is not followed by other carriers.
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Um, well I'm glad you seem to know more about my situation than I do, but I actually have looked through it, I know how much data will be shared within the plan (which is more), and I already have a quoted price and it's comparable to what we'd pay within the old structure.
I didn't ask the question in this thread to be told what a bad idea Verizon is and that I'm going to be ripped off, since I know this is an Evo and Sprint forum...I was just hoping for some helpful information about potential compatibility between rooted phones across different networks.

dajoip said:
Um, well I'm glad you seem to know more about my situation than I do, but I actually have looked through it, I know how much data will be shared within the plan (which is more), and I already have a quoted price and it's comparable to what we'd pay within the old structure.
I didn't ask the question in this thread to be told what a bad idea Verizon is and that I'm going to be ripped off, since I know this is an Evo and Sprint forum...I was just hoping for some helpful information about potential compatibility between rooted phones across different networks.
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Read up on unlocking bootloaders for motor and HTC a big red. Your best bet is Sammy.
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