So I'm the GPS "fixes" to compare, which obviously requires restarts. And then my battery stopped charging......
All I've done with my phone is root it, put the circular battery mod, and that's it. Crap......
I was going to make a post about that also...
my phone just turned off itself the battery icon showed up then next to it was a yellow caution symbol with a red temp. symbol..
took out the battery turned the phone on but its not holding charge anymore
The vibrant I returned for worse gps and giving me the not charging scare charged again when I pulled the battery for 5 minutes, instead of my usual in/out.
Still didn't like it did that at all was main reason for return.
Sent from my Vibrant.
I think i found the source of my problem...
it was the oc kernel plus wifi tethering and being plugged in and charging at the same time in i got really really hot!
seems okay now t-mobile is still sending me a new battery just in case
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I think I may have a faulty battery (hoping it's not a problem with the phone itself). The battery seems to hold it's charge ok but when it has completely run out of charge or is close to running out, I have a lot of problems getting it to charge up.
If the phone is turned off, the orange light comes on but then goes off again after about 10 minutes and the battery still shows 0% when I turn the phone on to check progress. I have to remove the cable, then remove the battery for at least 5 mins, turn the phone on and while it is booting up, do a soft reset. I then insert the cable as the phone is booting up and after a while the orange light comes on and the phone starts to charge. It takes ages to charge and when it has got to about 20%, I then turn off the phone and it then charges the remaining % fairly quickly. It only gets to 99% though....
I am pretty sure (like 99.9%) that it is just the battery as my son has the same phone. We have swapped chargers - no difference. We then swapped batteries - my phone worked fine and his wouldn't charge! However, when I went in the Orange shop they were insistant that I had to send the phone back as well, which I really don't want to do as I haven't got a spare phone (even a brick).
Unfortunately, as I have just lost my job, I don't want to have to buy a new battery as they are about £25 but I guess I will have to.
What do people think - is it just a faulty battery? Has anyone else had this issue with their phone - i.e is it a known problem?? Hope someone can help...
I guess no-one bothers to answers questions from newbies then....
idd, i feel the same way..
but i think your battery is dead, don't have much experience about that subject but when you exchange the battery with someelse and then his phone acts weird to, look no further.
After 2 oem batteries and 2 extended batteries, Im very confused as to whats going on. It will turn on fine, and it will even charge the battery, but once it hits 100% the wizard will restart and it will show battery level as zero and shutdown. I thought mabey it wasnt charging but it will let me install roms and i can restart it as much as i want. Thanks for looking!!!!
One thing i forgot...
I can also get it running by running wires from it to another phone battery ( i was trying to use it to replace my blackjack2) and by taking the 3.3volt power adapter route, i can even get it to start charging. but it will either cut off at 99% and reboot saying dead battery or take the battery out adn put it in to get 0%.
Update.... Not that anyone is reading lol
Ok, Ive made a little more progress today. Using sketchy methods, 3.3v adapter wires between phone and battery, i got it to charge whil on usb with computer to 100% today without shutting off ( a first since before flashed). Once I removed it from usb thou, the battery bar went immediatly down to 50%. I charged it to 100% percent again, but once i dosconected it, the battery level would decrese almost as if the gague were a countdown clock. I tried doing the powersave registry edit posted in these forums, but the phone showed 0% charger after the soft reset and promptly died again.... I just put in the other extended battery i pulled from a nap in the freezer, and if i ever find a solution i will post it... thanks to whoever is looking for looking!!!
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I can also get it running by running wires from it to another phone battery ( i was trying to use it to replace my blackjack2) and by taking the 3.3volt power adapter route, i can even get it to start charging. but it will either cut off at 99% and reboot saying dead battery or take the battery out adn put it in to get 0%.
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After 2 oem batteries and 2 extended batteries, Im very confused as to whats going on. It will turn on fine, and it will even charge the battery, but once it hits 100% the wizard will restart and it will show battery level as zero and shutdown. I thought mabey it wasnt charging but it will let me install roms and i can restart it as much as i want. Thanks for looking!!!!
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Ok, Ive made a little more progress today. Using sketchy methods, 3.3v adapter wires between phone and battery, i got it to charge whil on usb with computer to 100% today without shutting off ( a first since before flashed). Once I removed it from usb thou, the battery bar went immediatly down to 50%. I charged it to 100% percent again, but once i dosconected it, the battery level would decrese almost as if the gague were a countdown clock. I tried doing the powersave registry edit posted in these forums, but the phone showed 0% charger after the soft reset and promptly died again.... I just put in the other extended battery i pulled from a nap in the freezer, and if i ever find a solution i will post it... thanks to whoever is looking for looking!!!
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to me i looks like a short in the main bored hit me up on aim
Another update...
Ok. Still freezing battery and such. But today i finally got around to dissasembly and everything on the inside seemed fine to the unexperienced eye. the water sticker was ok, no clearly visable burn marks. It was a little dirty, but nothing that should cause this type of error. I did notice some weird things, but im not sure if thats just wizard guts or if its something to be concerned about. Hopefull I'll be able to get some guidance on this, i really hate missing calls on Crapjack2
This is getting expensive.....
So, I bought a battery charger and after rigging it with some wire to charge my extended battery(s), it shows the battery being charged and will run like normall... except i cant charge the batteries in phone..... so yeah... Im waiting on an oem wall charger in the mail, but im still open to the fried main board. I just need to know a little more before i start spending more money lol
edit: oh also, im only really charging it by usb whenever i attempt at internally charging the battery. Occasionally i borrow my cousin's kaiser wall charger, but i dont have mine yet
Okay so I got my phone about a month ago, I had kept it stock for a week, went to a custom rom, and put it back to stock today.
Reasoning I went back to stock:
So I had been having an issue of not charging when I plug in the charger, the phone would recongized that it had been plugged in by bumping the battery meter to 100% instead of a charging icon. The LED light was blinking orange & green so I knew something wasn't right. I then proceeded to unplug the charger and saw that the 100% knocked down to 6% which it was at 8% when I plugged it in. After I saw that I removed the battery and tried a different battery ( brother has the same phone) and his was at 70% and I plugged in the charger and still the same thing happened.
So after this I have found out that it was the phone that had the issue as it was not charging the battery at all so I then returned to stock rom using my brothers battery and it still had the same issue.
I then saw the middle contact of the three golden contact on the back of the phone was sticking between the phone and the battery so I pulled out the battery and pushed the contact toward the phone and then I insert the battery back into the phone and then place the charger on it and then it started charging.
So now I need to confirm that this was the actual fix. Can anyone confirm that the middle contact is the actual one that charges the phone or was this just luck of the draw?
sorry for the long post but I thought this would be a big deal based on the design of the contacts aren't the best.
rlacsamana1989 said:
Okay so I got my phone about a month ago, I had kept it stock for a week, went to a custom rom, and put it back to stock today.
Reasoning I went back to stock:
So I had been having an issue of not charging when I plug in the charger, the phone would recongized that it had been plugged in by bumping the battery meter to 100% instead of a charging icon. The LED light was blinking orange & green so I knew something wasn't right. I then proceeded to unplug the charger and saw that the 100% knocked down to 6% which it was at 8% when I plugged it in. After I saw that I removed the battery and tried a different battery ( brother has the same phone) and his was at 70% and I plugged in the charger and still the same thing happened.
So after this I have found out that it was the phone that had the issue as it was not charging the battery at all so I then returned to stock rom using my brothers battery and it still had the same issue.
I then saw the middle contact of the three golden contact on the back of the phone was sticking between the phone and the battery so I pulled out the battery and pushed the contact toward the phone and then I insert the battery back into the phone and then place the charger on it and then it started charging.
So now I need to confirm that this was the actual fix. Can anyone confirm that the middle contact is the actual one that charges the phone or was this just luck of the draw?
sorry for the long post but I thought this would be a big deal based on the design of the contacts aren't the best.
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On most cell phone battery packs the center contact(s) are a data or temp sensor connection, the power is input during charging and drawn during use from the outer contacts.
It depends on how "smart" the battery pack is that determines exactly what those center contact(s) do. In sophisticated packs there is actually circuity inside the battery back that monitors voltage, current draw and temp on the battery to determine the battery's charge status and communicates this back to the phone over a serial data bus with those contacts. on simple battery packs the center contacts are simply connections to a thermistor to monitor the battery's temp during the charging cycle, so the phone can cut off charging power if the battery starts to overheat.
In the end, yes, if the phone cant get a connection to those center contacts, it likely will not initiate a charge cycle. Attempting to charge a lithium ion with no way to monitor it is just asking for fire or explosion
d0ug's point above is backed up by the fact that several users have had issues with charging and/or booting the HD2 when that one middle pin gets bent (which seems like a fairly common occurance in this phone).
Ok, so i have been having the same issue and couldnt find any information till now.
Custom rom or not, if the middle term gets bent it will not charge right, also if the battery gets warm to a certain point it will shut off on you. I have also noticed, if your battery is below 50% and your using it intensively it will also stop charging the battery. When the status gets bumped up to 100% the led's will flash between red and green, this usually means there is an issue between the battery being over save charging temp, or a malfunction of the data sensor circuit in the battery. This is built into the hardware of the phone and is a safety measure.
This is from HTC Tech support this morning.
If any one elst can find out anything, im sure there would be people glad to hear.
Too bad the terminal being bent is from having to pull out the battery all the time
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Ok, so i have been having the same issue and couldnt find any information till now.
Custom rom or not, if the middle term gets bent it will not charge right, also if the battery gets warm to a certain point it will shut off on you. I have also noticed, if your battery is below 50% and your using it intensively it will also stop charging the battery. When the status gets bumped up to 100% the led's will flash between red and green, this usually means there is an issue between the battery being over save charging temp, or a malfunction of the data sensor circuit in the battery. This is built into the hardware of the phone and is a safety measure.
This is from HTC Tech support this morning.
If any one elst can find out anything, im sure there would be people glad to hear.
Too bad the terminal being bent is from having to pull out the battery all the time
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I've never had to pull the battery when it freezes. I just hit the red reset button. Is that not working for people?
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I've never had to pull the battery when it freezes. I just hit the red reset button. Is that not working for people?
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In my case, I just never have anything pointy enough to press the reset button, at least not as handy as just sliding the batt up and out by an inch or so. I think out of all the soft-resets I've done on my HD2, maybe 2 were by pushing the little button (yellow in my case)
hmm, i just checked my center pin, its still good. Like someone said above, i also reset my phone by just poping the battery out.
Also in the same situation that i usually don't have anything around to poke the reset button. I don't think ive ever actually used the reset button yet. All my previous WinMo phones had a stylus and the reset button was on the outside of the device, no battery cover removal, so the reset button was convenient to use. Battery removal seems like the simplest thing to do, if you're already removing the battery cover, just pop out the battery
How often are you guys having to reset your phones that way that you are damaging the pin, are you rocking the battery into it, or kind of just pushing it in? i noticed that the contacts seem to only fold down, they don't fold up or push in.
Ill definitely keep in mind now to put the battery in with a slightly downward motion to make sure the pins fold down, and don't get mashed in, which is where im guessing the bending is happening for you guys
My left pin got bent from all the battery pulls I've been doing. I think it happens when you don't slide it in at the right angle as d0ug has suggested. Now every time I do it, I make sure that all the pins are contacting correctly. If my left pin gets bent outward, the phone does not power up at all. (which made me freak out thinkin I broke it) Both stock and cooked ROMs have required battery pulls occasionally. Overall, I think I have to do battery pulls WAY WAY WAY more than I did with my previous MT3G. So far I have tried Kumars and Elegancia ROMs. I wish I could find a stable ROM that requires zero battery pulls. =T
yupp had the same problem with the connectors under the battery
I went in for a refurb and used it for a day and that pin was already bent so i went back in and this one seems to be in good working condition.
I think they should have done better job with the pins as I have never had these issues with any other phone.
WOW!! that fixed my problem.
*sniff* I love you guys! Thnx for the fix!
I'm trying out a couple of HD2s that an acquaintance had no business getting and is now looking to unload. The one is practically right out the box, the other looks like it has been around the DC loop a few times. I'm testing the well travelled one out when it looked like it needed charging, so I plug it in and start looking at the nice one. After 2hrs, I hear the tramp vibrate. When I go to see why it vibrated, it won't turn on again! It's after midnight, I haven't purchased it yet, haven't loaded a cooked ROM, haven't even run a stock update and it's already screwing up!?!? Since I had two I did some battery swaping then both went into boot loops. Many hours and a few gray hairs later, I got them both working again. I left them essentially alone until today. When the spouse went to sync the well-used of the HD2s, he noticed it needed charging. After almost an hour, he noticed that it had less charge than when he plugged it in. I noticed the charge light wasn't steady, it's flipping between red, green and nuttin'. My spouse, who had already laid claim to this HD2, did as he always does and jumped to the worst conclusion. I said make no inferences until we get home and check this forum. I knew you'd have the answer and you did not fail me! Best yet, it cost me nuttin' to fix!! Now do I point this out as a flaw for potentially lowering the sale price?
Thanks again!!
My take on this is that the flaw is in the way the battery wants to come out. When you lift using the tab on the left side, it tries to come out at an angle, angling from top left to bottom right, which means the connectors come away unevenly, and since the connector plates on the battery are inset, the plastic of the battery casing catches the pins as the battery rotates on its way up.
I keep my thumb on the battery just above the sim card until the battery is out about 45 degrees both top left and top right, and then pull it towards the top of the phone so the connectors all come away evenly, rather than being dragged up and over the pins.
Has anyone ever had an issue where by their battery life is at say 59% and when i plug it in to charge rather than the blue charging icon appearing it just showing the battery being 100% and the LED doing successive double flashing as opposed to a static LED like i should be if it was charging?
I've not installed anything, flashed a new rom etc, was fine yesterday.
All i did was have a little play with CHTEditor.
somethings not right, it must be something to do with me messing about with CHTEditor
out of the blue my lock screen had gone, and it says i have a voice mail waiting when i dont. haha
Hard reset i think
update...
hard reset not worked...uhoh
Same problem here
I was in a phone call an al of a sudden everything just went black and rebooted. Turns out the phone stopped charging and flasing green and red. Battery ran out of power and the phone shut down. After the reboot the phone charged normally again
Another situation:
Phone started acting up again and endend in a reboot. Battery was empty and i made a phone call on the charger. during the phonecall the same problem happend again, but the battery was at 9%. I intended to unplug the charger and plug it back in, but after the unplug the battery jumped to 0% and shut down.
So, i think the battery is acting up. Having to charge the thing every damn day is finally taking it's toll.
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Same problem here
I was in a phone call an al of a sudden everything just went black and rebooted. Turns out the phone stopped charging and flasing green and red. Battery ran out of power and the phone shut down. After the reboot the phone charged normally again
Another situation:
Phone started acting up again and endend in a reboot. Battery was empty and i made a phone call on the charger. during the phonecall the same problem happend again, but the battery was at 9%. I intended to unplug the charger and plug it back in, but after the unplug the battery jumped to 0% and shut down.
So, i think the battery is acting up. Having to charge the thing every damn day is finally taking it's toll.
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The phone seems to charge ok when switched off, i will leave it as it is till im home from work and wil have a tamper with it.
phone is now charging ok, just need to get rid of this voicemail notification now.
hmm and everything back to normal. must be its time of the month
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Has anyone ever had an issue where by their battery life is at say 59% and when i plug it in to charge rather than the blue charging icon appearing it just showing the battery being 100% and the LED doing successive double flashing as opposed to a static LED like i should be if it was charging?
I've not installed anything, flashed a new rom etc, was fine yesterday.
All i did was have a little play with CHTEditor.
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tis happens to mine (not allways) hd2 when using non htc battery.
do you have original batt?
bRkiX said:
tis happens to mine (not allways) hd2 when using non htc battery.
do you have original batt?
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yep, using the original battery, it seems to be ok now, charging as it should.
ahh well. cheers for the reply
one last this, how the hell to i get the lock screen back, i think im being dim.
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I have a program BsB Tweaks that has a setting for the lockscreen. Try that.
My phone is also charging fine when turned off, also it functions fine at the moment. i think it has something to do with overloading the device when the battery is low. Based on that its not possible to turn on any phone when the battery is in attached but the power is, i think everything is drained from the battery while charging it and that when overloading the battery just doesn't pull it anymore.
i don't have a alternative battery, mine is original.
What are the symtoms when the battery is at the end of it's life? does it do this, or is it supposed to give a warning or something?
edit: i am unable to find a manual page describing the different modes the LED could be blinking. I'm curious what is says about the red and green blinking mode. Does such a page exist?
I've been having problems with my battery for a week now, I noticed it wouldn't charge to 100% so that the green light comes on it will just goto 99% and then stay there. The battery then drains so fast, like literally I will be on 1% in an hour and a half.
So I tried a full reset of the phone and that didn't work. I also bought a new battery and that didn't work so I'm guessing the phone might well be knackered.
Also the phone seems to be really hot I never noticed it that hot before.
Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
Replace battery immediately! Do not attempt to charge it anymore, it could go very bad!
I did, I bought a new battery and the same thing happens.
I have to have it on charge constantly all day.
Maybe charging control unit(in phone) is damaged, or charger is not working properly.
Can you check voltage on charger?
Also are you sure you use original battery manufactured by HTC?
Right here, my problem