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Charging problem ..

(Bare with me, this IS wm6 related)
Okay, so i got this qtek 9090 from a trade online, and the owner pointed out that he had used it for some time now and it worked without problems.
However that seems not to be my experience. At first I was a little worried that it did not came with a charger.. Only a USB cable. No worries i thought, I will just charge it through USB. Now I have had some experiences where phones wouldn't charge from some of my computers, apparently because of some boards that put out lower amps than others. However I knew atleast one computer should have no problem charge ordinary cell phones.
So i plugged it in, and to my worries the battery kept going down... Untill the phone was dried from power and everything got lost again.. and again.. and again.. It seemed a little odd that it apparently deleted everything each time, since the backup battery indicated 100%.
So at last it went into flightmode and I shut it down with the powerbutton and let it be connected.. The first many hours nothing happened.. But suddenly, when i did an occasional check, it said 3% battery. I went to sleep and the next morning it was fully charged. I used it all day in school and it held its power real fine.
Now I got the feeling that this probably was caused by the low amp output from the computer, making it unable of charging to the extend where the phone would still be able of running whilst charging. So i figured i would order a 220v (the powercurrent here in Denmark) -> 5v USB that outputs 700mA, to make a quicker charge.
Well, to day I was gonna receive that adapter, and since I'd read that the wm6 apparently draines the battery some bit, I waited untill today to upgrade to wm6.
I upgraded and everything truely runs quick and stable. But when i recieved the adapter and plugged it in, i was horrified. The power kept going down, as I had experienced when it was plugged into USB.
Now my girlfriend really wanted to play bejeweled on this thing, so she did and then shortly afterwards we took a few hours nap. I had her plug it in the new adapter to charge it. When i woke up i saw the screen blinking.
I could se it was rebooting over and over again, as it had done the first time it completely lost power..
Now besides that extremely annoying charging problem, I now had another concern....
The boot screen shows NONE next to the R and the G.
Next to the D is the wm version displayed.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

red LED?
Hm.. By doing a hard reset it shows numbers next to R and G again.
It continuely reboots, display boot screen, shuts down, LED is red, reboots, displays boot screen, shuts down, LED is red again and again.
If i hard reset it some times it will at one point stay off, but the LED still lights red.
And now I question wether 700mA is even enough for charging the BA?

1. Higher power given by power supply does not mean, you will get faster charging
2. If you use WM5/WM6 and have Bluetooth turned on, device turns on every few minutes (bug/feature of the driver needed to keep Bluetooth running: look for BigMike's fix for more information). If your deivce is set up to turn off after long time (for ex. 5 mins), battery might drain out in half a day.
3. Check power settings (delays for device power down etc.)
4. In WM6 be sure, that audio manager is not running (prevents device from deep sleep, allows only screen shutdown)
5. If battery shows up 100% and after disconnecting device discharges in less than 2h being turned on all the time (wifi, bt, phone, screen all the time turned on) it means, that battery might be worn. Consider exchange.
R and G showing NONE is normal in WM5/WM6 because of bug (unfixable for now) in the device and it's incomatibility with this OS: after turning on from power down (taking battery out or total discharging) make soft reset just when R NONE G NONE shows up on the screen. Everything will be normal.

jakubd said:
1. Higher power given by power supply does not mean, you will get faster charging
2. If you use WM5/WM6 and have Bluetooth turned on, device turns on every few minutes (bug/feature of the driver needed to keep Bluetooth running: look for BigMike's fix for more information). If your deivce is set up to turn off after long time (for ex. 5 mins), battery might drain out in half a day.
3. Check power settings (delays for device power down etc.)
4. In WM6 be sure, that audio manager is not running (prevents device from deep sleep, allows only screen shutdown)
5. If battery shows up 100% and after disconnecting device discharges in less than 2h being turned on all the time (wifi, bt, phone, screen all the time turned on) it means, that battery might be worn. Consider exchange.
R and G showing NONE is normal in WM5/WM6 because of bug (unfixable for now) in the device and it's incomatibility with this OS: after turning on from power down (taking battery out or total discharging) make soft reset just when R NONE G NONE shows up on the screen. Everything will be normal.
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AFAIK the lower the mA output, the slower the charge period.
I have had wifi, bluetooth, beam off. I've set shutdown to 2 minutes. I've set it to low brightness and etc.
As i mentioned it had no problems going a whole day of usage in school.
Didn't know about the bug in wm6 that makes only the screen shut off, but at the momemt i can't even boot the device, apparently because it has no batterypower. And having it connected to the charger makes no real difference (other than it will display the bootscreen and perhaps even the Windows Mobile welcome screen thing, for a few seconds.. then go dead again.)
I've had it in the charger for about an hour or two, still not enough power to boot it up.
It feels like it's just not charging sometimes.. And other times it will charge just fine.
Found out about the reset to solve the NONE issue, but i still don't know what it means that its LED is red all the time?

Even 500mA is enough for sure, as charging from USB works fine.
Device will shut down soon after turning on if there is not enough power in battery, even it if is charging. Leave it charging (amber led on the right) for some time. RED led means low battery and no charging (AFAIR).

jakubd said:
Even 500mA is enough for sure, as charging from USB works fine.
Device will shut down soon after turning on if there is not enough power in battery, even it if is charging. Leave it charging (amber led on the right) for some time. RED led means low battery and no charging (AFAIR).
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Hmm, i see. I just don't understand why it's not charging then :/

trylleklovn said:
Didn't know about the bug in wm6 that makes only the screen shut off
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This is not a bug - thanks to this you can still listen to your music keeping device with screen turned off, when you don't need it to spare battery.
trylleklovn said:
Found out about the reset to solve the NONE issue, but i still don't know what it means that its LED is red all the time?
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Red LED (right one) means low battery, no charging. To charge this led must be amber. Details - you must look for manual.

jakubd said:
This is not a bug - thanks to this you can still listen to your music keeping device with screen turned off, when you don't need it to spare battery.
Red LED (right one) means low battery, no charging. To charge this led must be amber. Details - you must look for manual.
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Okay.
It's odd still. When i connect the charger the right LED starts to light red.
If it means that its not charging, there must be something wrong, since it only happens when connecting the charger..

it can be amber or red. Those are different colors and meaning.
You can confirm it charges touching the battery - it becomes slightly warm after some time.

jakubd said:
it can be amber or red. Those are different colors and meaning.
You can confirm it charges touching the battery - it becomes slightly warm after some time.
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I KNOW that, but it is not going amber. It stays red all the time.
Found this thread that discusses a similar problem; http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-233782.html
Apparently it shows RED light all the time if the battery is dead.. However i hardly doubt that the battery, which could power the phone just fine for and entire day, should be dead.
However, one suggestion in the thread was to take out the battery for some time and then try again. So I will do that for now.

Behavior has changed a bit now..
The LED is still red when i connect the charger. However, if i try to turn it on following happens:
Boot Screen shows for a couple of seconds...
Windows Mobile startup screen appears and the LED changes to orange/amber..
After a few seconds the screen turns black and the LED changes to red again...
And then after a few more seconds the boot screen appears again and everything is repeated, over and over.
If I disconnect the charger the boot screen appears, the wm startup screen appears, this time with a flashing red LED.. shortly after the phone turns off.

trylleklovn said:
Behavior has changed a bit now..
The LED is still red when i connect the charger. However, if i try to turn it on following happens:
Boot Screen shows for a couple of seconds...
Windows Mobile startup screen appears and the LED changes to orange/amber..
After a few seconds the screen turns black and the LED changes to red again...
And then after a few more seconds the boot screen appears again and everything is repeated, over and over.
If I disconnect the charger the boot screen appears, the wm startup screen appears, this time with a flashing red LED.. shortly after the phone turns off.
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I've seen this problem before. The charger is not putting out enough power to both charge and boot the BA. So what happens is that it starts charging enough to start boot, but as soon as it has enough power to start the boot, it immediately drains it by starting to boot with screen at full brightness.
What I do in this case is to try to catch it just as it starts to boot and turn the backlight off by holding down the power button for 5 sec. This turns off the backlight so there is less drain and the thing can boot up and start charging.
All in all, its a pretty stupid bug but what the hell, there is a solution to it.
Good luck.

motisu said:
I've seen this problem before. The charger is not putting out enough power to both charge and boot the BA. So what happens is that it starts charging enough to start boot, but as soon as it has enough power to start the boot, it immediately drains it by starting to boot with screen at full brightness.
What I do in this case is to try to catch it just as it starts to boot and turn the backlight off by holding down the power button for 5 sec. This turns off the backlight so there is less drain and the thing can boot up and start charging.
All in all, its a pretty stupid bug but what the hell, there is a solution to it.
Good luck.
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This seems to work atm. (just a few seconds since it successfully booted)..
Does this mean that the device really cant charge if its not "on" ?
(I can see its booted and the LED is now orange. If only it will stay this way untill it has been recharged further ))

trylleklovn said:
This seems to work atm. (just a few seconds since it successfully booted)..
Does this mean that the device really cant charge if its not "on" ?
(I can see its booted and the LED is now orange. If only it will stay this way untill it has been recharged further ))
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It can charge when it is off. BUT... When its off, its not really off... It has to finish booting and then you can turn it off. Then it will charge faster as it only has minimum drain on the battery. As I said before, its a stupid design.

motisu said:
It can charge when it is off. BUT... When its off, its not really off... It has to finish booting and then you can turn it off. Then it will charge faster as it only has minimum drain on the battery. As I said before, its a stupid design.
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Well we can certainly agree on that
So does the phone also basicly use to much power to be used and charged at the same time? Which would explain why it seemed to lose power even though it was connected to the charger.
Although it still doesn't add up for me, as at one point i was playing a game on it, while charging and then it charged real fast, where you would expect it to use more power
Oh well, if only it keeps charging now i'll be glad

trylleklovn said:
Well we can certainly agree on that
So does the phone also basicly use to much power to be used and charged at the same time? Which would explain why it seemed to lose power even though it was connected to the charger.
Although it still doesn't add up for me, as at one point i was playing a game on it, while charging and then it charged real fast, where you would expect it to use more power
Oh well, if only it keeps charging now i'll be glad
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I have found that if you only use the USB cable to charge, it takes much longer (if at all) to charge if it is on. Thats why I bought cradles that have external power suppies as well as the USB sync cable. With this configuration, it gets to full charge in about 90 minutes.

Hm.. yeah.. I let it charge for some time, until it shut down and the LED changed to red again.. The same thing has happened about 3 times now.. If I try to navigate it with the brightness off it will shut down after a few clicks..
Seems like either the battery is completely dead or it's simply not charging.. :/
Think i have to buy a new battery and a cradle, although i didn't really want to spend money on this phone as i got it virtually for free (through a trade of a w810i)

trylleklovn said:
Hm.. yeah.. I let it charge for some time, until it shut down and the LED changed to red again.. The same thing has happened about 3 times now.. If I try to navigate it with the brightness off it will shut down after a few clicks..
Seems like either the battery is completely dead or it's simply not charging.. :/
Think i have to buy a new battery and a cradle, although i didn't really want to spend money on this phone as i got it virtually for free (through a trade of a w810i)
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Get it to orange and then push the power button (short push) to turn it off (not long push which only turns off the backlight). Then let it charge for an hour or 2 (or even all night). By then, it should work OK.

motisu said:
Get it to orange and then push the power button (short push) to turn it off (not long push which only turns off the backlight). Then let it charge for an hour or 2 (or even all night). By then, it should work OK.
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Yeah, i tried that. As soon as i press the power button it goes to red again.

Update..
A litte update (i might as well document everything I find out here, if anyone should run into a similar problem).
Now, I've had the device connected to the charge for some time now.
What happens is that the device boots up, automaticly dimms down to no light (since i once had hold down the power button, to dimm down light).
Then it boots up, and i can see everything running.
I can navigate to the battery status menu, which shows
Battery: 0% (charging)
Backup battery: 25%
After a few minutes the device shuts down, and the LED goes red again. But after about a half a minute it will try to boot up again, and it goes through everything again.
What I've noticed is that the backup battery slowly increases, and while im writing it has gone all the way to 75%. The good thing about this completely automatic procedure is that it apparently slowly charges, at least, the backup battery.
My theory is that the backup battery has first priority in the system, so that the regular battery wont charge untill the backup battery is up. And since the backup battery can't apparently be used for actualy powering the system, the system will continuesly reboot because of lack of power, theoreticly untill the backup battery reaches 100% and it starts to charge the regular battery.
The whole problem seems to be cause by some charging malfunction, so that both batteries has been completely discharged. I hope that by letting it continue to reboot, charge, reboot, charge, etc. it will revive the battery.
I will return with more info tomorrow.
Any suggestions are still greatly appreciated.

Really annoying problem...

Hey guys.
I'm experiencing some problems with my Touch HD. When I get it to start I'm really happy with it and every program runs as it should.
My problem is the battery or something like that. I can have the battery power at 70% one second and the next the phone is telling me to either charge the battery or the device will shut down. I try to start it again but at the start screen it says Battery level to low, your device will shut down.
When I try to charge it the LED under the power button will show a solid amber light, telling me that it's charging, for about 7-9 seconds and after that it will either start flashing between amber and green light or just turn off.
I've tried having it like that over night and try to start the phone in the morning and the same message appear on screen, "Warning! Battery level to low! Your device will shut down!"
Read in some other post about someone who had a similar problem, but not quite the same, and that was resolved by removing the battery, plug in the USB cable for a few seconds, disconnect everything and then put the battery back in and start the phone. This works for me about 30% of the time. When it works the battery shows about 60-80% power.
I've tried a hard reset and I've tried to contact HTC without any success. Any suggestions from you guys, you seem to know almost everything there is to know about these phones.
Thanks.
/Markus

Have you tried keeping the battery out for a day?
When I got my phone, the first 7 charges I turned the phone off and charged it all the the way up (to get the calibration accurate). Now the battery life is excellent, I can use it for couple of days without charging.
You should try returning the phone, seems it is fine software wise. Can you use the phone with the charger in? If yes, then there is probably something wrong with the battery or the hardware that is interacting with the charging.

I've tried keeping the battery out for about 24 hours but it didn't help. I can't start the phone when I have it plugged to the charger. I'm going to return it today and see if they can just exchange the phone in store or if they need to ship it somewhere to be repaired
Thanks anyway.

Sounds like a defective battery to me...

That's a good idea, better to get a new one.

crapforbrains said:
Hey guys.
I'm experiencing some problems with my Touch HD. When I get it to start I'm really happy with it and every program runs as it should.
My problem is the battery or something like that. I can have the battery power at 70% one second and the next the phone is telling me to either charge the battery or the device will shut down. I try to start it again but at the start screen it says Battery level to low, your device will shut down.
When I try to charge it the LED under the power button will show a solid amber light, telling me that it's charging, for about 7-9 seconds and after that it will either start flashing between amber and green light or just turn off.
I've tried having it like that over night and try to start the phone in the morning and the same message appear on screen, "Warning! Battery level to low! Your device will shut down!"
Read in some other post about someone who had a similar problem, but not quite the same, and that was resolved by removing the battery, plug in the USB cable for a few seconds, disconnect everything and then put the battery back in and start the phone. This works for me about 30% of the time. When it works the battery shows about 60-80% power.
I've tried a hard reset and I've tried to contact HTC without any success. Any suggestions from you guys, you seem to know almost everything there is to know about these phones.
Thanks.
/Markus
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switch off wifi, install Advanced Config, select all power management enabled
and try again. i also had the situation that my hd took 1550 mA. so the battery was sucked empty within several hours. now everything runs perfect...

Have exactly the same problem
I have exactly the same problem. One moment the phone works and charges fine and the next it shows irratic battery levels and eventually needs to be shut down. Following the shutdown you get the 'Battery level too low' message on startup, right after the Smart Mobility screen. In my case I think the problem mostly started when the phone was either just connected to a PC using the sync cable or when trying to top-up the charge using the wall charger. I also noticed that when the problem appears the plug symbol would appear (indicating it is charging) or sometimes not and then when checking the battery level, the indicators would actually go down sometimes losing 2 or 3 at a time until there is only 1 left and the phone says it needs to shut down. Pluging in the wall charger does not help as the LED indicating the phone is charging only stays on for a few seconds.
Now, I had many trials with removing battery, sim card, memory card or any of those in combination and sometimes these seem to work, but I think the key is the temperature of the phone. Every time I went to the car to drive home, where it was cold, the phone would start charging again, when just before that it would not react to anything all the time I was in the warm office.
I have now contacted HTC and am sending it to their repair centre tomorrow. Hopefully this is recognised as a fault and I will get a replacement. BTW, they arranged for a free courier pickup. Not bad, but the key for me is that the phone is being replaced as I really like the phone.

Update: Got a replacement after 1 week
Got my replacement phone today and hope that this time I have no further problems. I also had to return my previous one with a screen problem (see my post here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=439410&page=2).
Everything went quite smootly and I liked the offer of a free of charge UPS pickup, so the only complaint I really have is that HTC send me a new phone but no replacement screen protector. Just the original screen sticker (the one with some writing on it) had been stuck on. It was in a bit of state like it had been taken off and put back on several times. I just called them to send me a replacement screen protector, but I don't hold my breath to get one. Probably end up buying it from the website.

X2 Charging problem

So the phone was really low, at 6% this morning. SO I put it on the wall charger. I saw the icon come up that it was charging and then put the phone down.
A while later I went back to the phone and saw that although the charger was plugged in to the wall and also plugged into the phone, it was NOT charging.
Using the phone I went to my contacts to check a phone number and then it turned off, due to no charge.
I plug it into the wall charger, the USB connected to the computer, as well as the car charger and here is what happens:
The top and bottom of the phone blink red for about 1-3 minutes.
Without pressing anything on the phone it automatically turns itself on, I see the Sony Ericsson boot screen, the Windows boot screen then my SPB Mobil Shell screen for about a second and then it turns off again showing and the blinking red light for about 1-3 minutes and then it starts the process all over again.
I think that a setting for Backlight/Power management was changed. As setting similar to "Only charge with usb", or "only charge when connected with ActiveSync" or somthing like that.
The problem is that I turned off the Active sync on the phone in order to conserve battery power so that I could look up the phone number from my contacts. And after I did that the phone shut off and I cannot change it, because it will not charge.
I do not have a different, charged, battery to try and do not think that I can find one easily.
Any suggestions?

Now when I see that the phone is re-booting(I see the SE logo), I use the stylus to to soft reset. It is obvious that there is some type of charge happening before it re-boots, , otherwise it would not re-boot. SO my theory is that by doing a soft rest between restarts, the battery will gain more of a charge each time. And possibly have enough of a charge so that I can go into my settings and see the backlight/ power settings have been changed.

So I took a battery from my old SE 902 phone and rigged it to work with my X2.
It booted up just fine. I was able to get into the menu for power settings. Nothig was changed however I did check the box "do not charge when connected to the computer" backed out of that screen and then went back into the screen and unchecked the box.
I powered down the phone and the screen went to the default charging battery meter.
I then put the proper battery in the phone and it was still blinking red. I saw it blink green for a few seconds, then I felt it vibrate, and then I saw the green battery meter. But after a few seconds it went back to blinking red and I could not see the battery meter again.
This seems to be happening intermittenly. As of right now there is a green blinking light and I see a dimmed battery meter.
Hopefully it will be fine, we shall see.

So it was charging for a while and now has stopped. I see the battery meeter, but there is no green bar moving up. and the light has stopped blinking.
I unplugged the usb and I still see the battery meter with no green bar moving. Installed the back cover and plugged the usb back in.
Now it is back to the red blinking again. . . ? ? ? ? ?

I think that it is a battery issue.
CAn anyone suggest why a battery would all of a sudden stop working?

Just ordered a new battery. $70.00!!! Ouch!!!
It does come with a battery charger for use with a Mini USB, but still, $70.00 is a lot of money!!
I will update with the results after i charge it up.

I got the new battery and put it into the charger. As I mentioned in an earlier post the new battery came with a separate charger for use with a mini usb. At first I had problems. The charger would not charge the new battery. I was using a wall connected mini usb to power the charger. So I went to the computer and tried the mini usb from there. It still would not charge. So I took the battery out of the charger and put it into then phone and went back to the wall charger and it was charging. I could feel the phone vibrate and then saw the battery meter slowly fill with green and back to empty and then fill green again.
So I decided to do a few other chores around the house and went to check the charging status after about 10 minutes. I noticed that the phone was on!! I did not turn the phone on. No one else was in the house to turn it on. It was just on. Weird.
So I took the battery out of the phone and decided to try the new charger again with the computer mini USB. It WAS charging this time!! I charged the new battery on this charger using the computer mini USB until the red light(charging) turned green (finished charging) and then put it in the phone. It works fine.
I then decided to put the defective battery into this charger and it was actually charging!! I left it overnight and it was green this morning: identifying it as a full charge.
When the new battery is down to 10% or less I will take it out and put the defective battery in and see what happens.

So I put the original battery back in after the green light came on identifying a full charge on the accessory charger.
It showed 1% and a message came up identifying that "the battery is low, please charge asap", something like that.
So, in my unprofessional opinion , the original battery is toast.
The new battery worked great after its initial charge using the included accessory charger.
When I decided to charge it using the phone itself with the wall charger I noticed some really weird things happening.
First of all you should know that I downloaded and installed Spoon Charge. Look it up here on the forums, free and works great. It basically tells you what charge level you have, temperature of the battery, what voltage is coming in to charge it and also type of charge the battery is doing: trickle, fast, very fast and on battery.You can set it to read reading at specific time intervals: I have it set to read at every second.
I noticed that the charge kept bouncing between very fast and trickle. At one point it went to on battery, then to trickle then to on battery then to fast.
Ok. Weird. . . I thought to myself.
So I let it continue to charge overnight.
The next day I "tried" to use the phone. it was as slow as it was at it's factory installed settings before I did the memory card fix, accelerator settings, and other fixes that I forgot now have forgotten that I have installed.
At this point I decided to drain the battery as fast as I could by turning on WiFi, Bluetooth, and play a movie at the loudest volume possible. As soon as it reached 10% I took the battery out and charged it with the accessory charger. The next morning I saw that the indicator light was green showing full charge and installed the battery in the phone. It booted up and I immediately received a message that the battery was low, saw 1%.
Knowing that this was a BRAND NEW BATTERY, I turned off the phone and took the battery out and waited a few seconds until I put it back in and rebooted the phone.
This time it said 86% charge!!!!!!
WTF!!!!
So I tried to use the phone and it was as sluggish as before. After about 25 minutes it was starting to be a bit faster but nothing like it was before.
I am really confused now. Since I have a new battery I have ruled out that as a problem. So now is it the phone itself? Could it be the wall charger that is faulty?
Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Another update.
I put the original battery in the phone and now it works!!!! The old battery that would not charge now charges and works!!!
The phone is not the same. Still really slow, can't get it out of the "LOCKED" position when I want to answer a phone call. Opera is sliggish then fast then sluggish. Not what I had the phone at before all of this started. It actually WAS stable. It WAS useable. Now I want to throw it into the drink!!!!!!
Not sure what to think anymore.

well bro go into the system help of ur mobile press as i say
2ce the end button one time call button, 2ce the end button one time call button,one time end button and u will find the problem it is in the charging port the same issue with me

[Q] Mytouch 4g died in sleep?

So, this phone was working without any problems but then my wife turned it off and left it in the drawer for about 3 weeks when she went overseas. When she got back and tried to turn it on it wont turn on. We figured it might have drained the battery so we plugged it in but now its not charging either! When I unplugged and plugged in, the LED blinked orange once but now it wont even do that either, no power, no LED, not charging either. I have tired everything, left it disconnected, battery out for an hour, then put it together and tried to charge, still nothing.
Any ideas? It is already out of warranty so talking to T-Mobile is out of question.
Nothing has been done to it, it is physically fine, it was just off for a long period and not it just wont respond.
Edit: Fixed it! I don't know what, I was almost giving up, but I took the battery out and blew hard on the battery contacts in the phone and in the charging port then plugged everything in and put it back on charger, orange light started to blink and then went solid and now its charging. I just turned it on. This phone is dodgy, no other phone hard bricks like this if you leave it off.

Some phones don't function with completely discharged battery. Actually, most of newer phones. You need to leave the battery inside and the phone connected to charger for some time, till the charging light shows up. MT4G is very far from being "dodgy", doesn't differ from many other phones that behave the same, and you were nowhere near "hard brick".
Good luck in powering up Motorola Defy with completely discharged battery.

Recoverable problem
syl0n said:
So, this phone was working without any problems but then my wife turned it off and left it in the drawer for about 3 weeks when she went overseas. When she got back and tried to turn it on it wont turn on. We figured it might have drained the battery so we plugged it in but now its not charging either! When I unplugged and plugged in, the LED blinked orange once but now it wont even do that either, no power, no LED, not charging either. I have tired everything, left it disconnected, battery out for an hour, then put it together and tried to charge, still nothing.
Any ideas? It is already out of warranty so talking to T-Mobile is out of question.
Nothing has been done to it, it is physically fine, it was just off for a long period and not it just wont respond.
Edit: Fixed it! I don't know what, I was almost giving up, but I took the battery out and blew hard on the battery contacts in the phone and in the charging port then plugged everything in and put it back on charger, orange light started to blink and then went solid and now its charging. I just turned it on. This phone is dodgy, no other phone hard bricks like this if you leave it off.
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Had a similar problem. Phone died while using it then wouldn't light up when plugged in. Left it plugged in for half an hour wouldn't seem to charge via wall or car charger. Tried doing a hard reset with/without the battery & plugged in/not plugged in in various combinations. Got nuthin. Drove around for hours looking for a replacement or open T-Mobile place, until it got too late and I went home. Live chat with T-mobile rep was a waste of time. Plugged it in the wall and left it, as this once brought back a G2 battery that I thought was cold dead. Five hours later it was lit up and charging, showing 40% charge on the battery indicator app once I turned it back on. "HTC Sense" crashed immediately on boot then recovered. Seems to be fine so far.
- Suggestion; plug it in and leave it overnight if it seems cold dead and doesn't appear to be charging. It seems to need to hit some critical threshold before it will work again (as indicated by previous poster). Also pick up a couple spares off amazon or newegg if you don't have a second phone available.

Red light of death after Antutu Benchmark

The title pretty much explains it.
My N4 died on me today after running an Antutu Benchmark. I was running on Android 4.4 with the latest Fauxkernel (v29).
I can't boot it up anymore without the charging cable plugged in. When the charging cable is plugged in, the LED flashes red once, the display turns on and shows me the battery charging indicator and turns off just a couple seconds later also with the LED flashing red once. If I attempt to turn it on, the Google sign appears but the phone turns off immediately after that and once again, say Hi! to the red LED.
Pretty much tried everything so far, charging my battery, getting into the recovery menu, pushing down the power+VOL Up buttons for 60 seconds, etc. Nothing helped.
Maybe you guys know any way to fix it? I don't wanna open my device nor replace the battery if possible.
Thanks in advance.

2 ways to fix it. first, leave your phone on the charger for 3-4 hours. thwn try to boot it into the bootloader and press turn off the phone. let it charge further. if that doesnt work, remove the back cover, remove the battery, then clip the battery back in. the second method works 100%.

simms22 said:
2 ways to fix it. first, leave your phone on the charger for 3-4 hours. thwn try to boot it into the bootloader and press turn off the phone. let it charge further. if that doesnt work, remove the back cover, remove the battery, then clip the battery back in. the second method works 100%.
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I can get into the bootloader but once I select power off, the phone just turns on again and shows me the battery charging indicator. Not sure if it's supposed to be like that but the indicator is completely filled so that would probably mean the battery is full.
Not sure if I have the right screwdrivers to open the back.

xSalamanderman said:
I can get into the bootloader but once I select power off, the phone just turns on again and shows me the battery charging indicator. Not sure if it's supposed to be like that but the indicator is completely filled so that would probably mean the battery is full.
Not sure if I have the right screwdrivers to open the back.
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the reason for rlod is that the phone thinks that it is under 0% battery. leave it on the indicator that is filled, thats a good start. when that filled indicator starts the reguler behavior that it looks like its filling(up and down), thats when your phone will be fixed. leave it charging for a few hours.

simms22 said:
the reason for rlod is that the phone thinks that it is under 0% battery. leave it on the indicator that is filled, thats a good start. when that filled indicator starts the reguler behavior that it looks like its filling(up and down), thats when your phone will be fixed. leave it charging for a few hours.
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Alright, I'll try that out. It's kinda annoying though that the display turns on every few seconds and turns off again but if it's going to work later that'll be worth it. Thanks alot!

if worst comes to worst, remove the battery and plug the battery back in. this will "reset" the battery(like a normal battery pull for devices with a removable battery).

seems the post may drive users a mis-understanding to AnTuTu Benchmark, I will ask our engineer to double check.