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So my friend found someone's lost Droid 2 and wanted me to fix it for him. He wants it so he can take it to Verizon as if he had bought it and have it activated. It's locked, as in no service. He already did a factory reset.
Where do I look now? What exactly do I look for? I can figure out how to root it easy enough but after that I'm lost on what to do..
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Return to Verizon. The person who lost it probably reported it by now and Verizon blacklisted the ESN number or whatever. It's no good.
It's Christmas time dude, someone is probably really upset that they lost that phone. Do the noble thing and return it.
I am sure the person that lost the phone has all the family photos, family and friends numbers on it. Too bad that your friend didn't look up the number and try to return the phone..
Please put yourself in that person shoes. ...God Bless you(for helping your friend doing the evil thing) and most of all for your friend for not returning the phone to the owner.
Also just to add a personal experience:
I found a phone on the ground at a concert once, called the last number dialed in it and found out who it belonged to. Turned out to belong to the guitarist for the headlining band. Me and my gf got brought backstage, had an amazing party and got a ton of free ****.
However, if you do decide not to return it, I'm sure a few devs out there would love to get in touch with you to get the phone from you, namely people like blackdroid and cvpcs, who are currently working on D2 ROMs but don't have a device to test builds on. To those guys it doesn't matter as much if the phone is blacklisted, as it can still be used for development.
However, you should make an effort to return it to it's original owner, as there is no way you will be able to use the phone for service through verizon at this point.
vagely said:
Also just to add a personal experience:
I found a phone on the ground at a concert once, called the last number dialed in it and found out who it belonged to. Turned out to belong to the guitarist for the headlining band. Me and my gf got brought backstage, had an amazing party and got a ton of free ****.
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That's awesome dude!
He found it weeks ago and just now.got it to me. He long since formatted it so all info was lost. I don't think he will be trying to return it.
Is there anything that can be done software wise? Or would the hardware unique to the phone make this impossible?
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mindnumbinglyfun said:
He found it weeks ago and just now.got it to me. He long since formatted it so all info was lost. I don't think he will be trying to return it.
Is there anything that can be done software wise? Or would the hardware unique to the phone make this impossible?
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It's useless as a phone on Verizon. They block the ESN of the phone once it's reported lost/stolen and won't allow it on the network regardless of what you do to the software. You need better friends. Just because you find something doesn't make it yours. Especially when it's something like a phone that contains the owners contact info in it.
Yeah. Well thanks for the help.
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I agree w/ others on here that it would still be. Est to try to return it or to donate to a rom dev...
But how about bypassing the reg when you boot the phone and setting it up for making calls on wifi via skype or google voice? Should still be useful as a tablet computer, if anything.
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I think the right thing to do is to return it to a Verizon store and let them find the owner for you (they can look up the ESN and see the history of it and find the person that way).
But if you plan to keep it, you might wait until folks have successfully unlocked the SIM card and use it on a different network. Chances are Verizon can't blacklist the phone for AT&T or T-Mobile purposes.
You could either return it to verizon, give it to a dev for testing purposes, or sell it as blacklisted for parts on Ebay.
I'd go with option number 2 actually. it might end up helping you out in the long run if you have a D2 yourself.
I work at verizon I can look up the esn if you want
Just bring it to a verizon and say you found it. This is a very expensive phone and is most likely blacklisted. My aunt turned in a lost phone to a verizon store and got a credit from the manager. Your decency may pay off.
tell your friend to be nice and return it to verizon.
Lost my Droidx, never got it back
phaim said:
I think the right thing to do is to return it to a Verizon store and let them find the owner for you (they can look up the ESN and see the history of it and find the person that way).
But if you plan to keep it, you might wait until folks have successfully unlocked the SIM card and use it on a different network. Chances are Verizon can't blacklist the phone for AT&T or T-Mobile purposes.
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Really???? I have to ask, do you have a Droid 2 for Verizon? Have you seen a sim card?
Just an FYI, Droid 2 uses CDMA and T-Mobile and at&t use gsm. Two totally different frequencies, and the Droid 2 will never work with either of them.
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Really???? I have to ask, do you have a Droid 2 for Verizon? Have you seen a sim card?
Just an FYI, Droid 2 uses CDMA and T-Mobile and at&t use gsm. Two totally different frequencies, and the Droid 2 will never work with either of them.
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cool your jets broski, he just confused it for a droid 2 global which, in fact, DOES have a sim card slot.
Technically the droid 2 has a sim card slot aswell it's just blocked by a piece of plastic glued to the top of the battery contacts and there aren't actual sim/GSM hardware but there is a slot for it.
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botnryan said:
cool your jets broski, he just confused it for a droid 2 global which, in fact, DOES have a sim card slot.
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Yup, I did (that's the phone I have). My bad.
I am part of the group being merged from Alltel to AT&T; I selected the Liberty/Aria for my next phone (coming from a rooted/flashed HTC Touch for many years).
AT&T will be sending the phone out this month, and then will activate the line next month as part of the merger.
Looking to root and flash CyanogenMod7 on the Aria, but curious if this is something I can do upon receiving the phone, or if I should/would need to wait until the phone is activated for service.
AT&T states they will send a text on our Alltel phones that will state "start using your new AT&T phone now," so not sure if it's really activation; maybe just a phone home?
I don't want to root/flash and then have the phone not become active in April.
I'm fine waiting... just looking for anyone else that may have been in this situation and has some insight.
How interesting I was in this situation a couple months back when Unicel merged with AT&T. There isn't really anything you can do that will really be that beneficial to starting the rooting and flashing process before you get the phone. Maybe install the drivers? And as far as the activation I received my Aria fairly promptly so I had it for like 3 weeks until activation. I'm pretty sure I got a text message the day before activation informing me to carry both phones on me. I had an unlocked T-Mobile SidekickLX and I was carrying both it and my Aria on me. Unfortunately it seems the Unicel service was cut before the AT&T service started for me. It took me about two hours without having access to a phone and when the Aria did activate after setup I received all the missed calls and text message notifications from that time where I had no service. Either way it both the wait for the phone and the wait for it to be activated were all worth it.
I LOVE MY ARIA!
Hope I helped.
vicmora5:
Thanks for your informative post; I hope it all goes smoothly.
Truth be told I just want to play when that Aria arrives; but I can wait if it's a no-no.
Looking for a "yes, I've been there and done that! Rooted and flashed my device before the line was active; go for it!"
If I don't get that kind of response; I better wait
Ohhhh!!!
Sorry I completely forgot about that aspect of it. I didn't even open the Aria until I was about to have it activated. I'm actually not sure about what happens if you root and flash pre-activation /=
Sorry I guess im not much help, but I hope you find an answer and get everything working fine
Hi there,
I received my Aria aboout two weeks ago and it is not set to be activated intil early-mid April.
I have loaded it up with apps via Wifi...it does everything I need it to do short of being able to make/receive a call. I did remove the SIM first.
I am wondering if I can root this device and upgrade the OS before it's active, and what will happen if I do these things then reinstall the SIM that came in it.
I rooted and flashed my aria already, i don't see why it would matter at all. I wanted to play some games on it (like nfs:shift and angry birds) and surf the web via my portable hotspot (clear wireless). I've had 0 issues, but i'm not set to be active with att until april. I assume if something screws up, I'll just have to flash back to stock, set it up, then reflash back later. worse comes to worse I'll flash to stock and return it, lol
Once you put sim card in aria from at&t you want have any problems ..
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vicmora5:
Thanks for your informative post; I hope it all goes smoothly.
Truth be told I just want to play when that Aria arrives; but I can wait if it's a no-no.
Looking for a "yes, I've been there and done that! Rooted and flashed my device before the line was active; go for it!"
If I don't get that kind of response; I better wait
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Yes you can root and install a custom rom prior to activation. Plus its the sim card, not the phone that needs the actual activation.
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CallMeAria said:
Yes you can root and install a custom rom or games or whatever prior to activation. Plus its the sim card, not the phone that needs the actual activation.
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Thanks for all the replies, they sure were helpful.
I'll plan on rooting/flashing pre-activation then; that way I can have the phone all ready to go when it goes live.
Coming from the non-SIM world, I sometimes forget that everything is tied to that SIM card and not in the phone itself.
basically i got a free evo 4g. my mgr thought she lost her phone went to sprint got new one under her ins plan few days later found it under her car seat. anyways she gave it to me to play around with. I have tmobile (blackberry) so i just use this primarily as mini tablet to just surf web, play games, get my andriod on, etc.
my question is is there way to remove the radio completely? and just use wifi? i figured it would save on battery. i have it rooted w/ cyan newest stable mod.
airplane mode.
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basically i got a free evo 4g. my mgr thought she lost her phone went to sprint got new one under her ins plan few days later found it under her car seat. anyways she gave it to me to play around with. I have tmobile (blackberry) so i just use this primarily as mini tablet to just surf web, play games, get my andriod on, etc.
my question is is there way to remove the radio completely? and just use wifi? i figured it would save on battery. i have it rooted w/ cyan newest stable mod.
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No, what you do is this, go to settings wireless and network and disable mobile data, but if the phone is not connected to a network or anything it wont search for it anyway, if not I'm not mistaken airplane mode disables all connections so in fact your wifi would not work
you can enable wifi in airplane mode.
Get the app called "network" from the market, it will let you turn off the radio
I've heard that often lost/stolen phones don't get properly blacklisted by Sprint, so sometimes they can still be activated on Sprint. Even if it couldn't be, it could still work on Cricket and maybe Boost. You could sell it and list it as having a bad ESN. You'll likely still get $200 for it.
Technically though, the phone belongs to Ascurion, so depending on your morals, you should give it to them.
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I've heard that often lost/stolen phones don't get properly blacklisted by Sprint, so sometimes they can still be activated on Sprint. Even if it couldn't be, it could still work on Cricket and maybe Boost. If it were me, I'd sell it and list it as having a bad ESN. You'll likely still get $200 for it.
Technically though, the phone belongs to Ascurion, so depending on your morals, you should give it to them.
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not a bad idea, but i actually like having it to use a pocket laptop. makes it easy to check scores for fantasy baseball or football things like that. play games. and test out new roms. i put in extended battery so does good job of lasting figured if i can disable radio should improve nicely.
and my morals are awful, although her plan was to throw it out and pollute our landfills so i did a good deed by taking it off her hands
It will work for MetroPCS, Boost (alot of work), Cricket.
Just disable mobile data in settings. It will be a cool picture taker and mp3 player lol, a very nice one.
Would you sell it? Pm me a price.
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It will work for MetroPCS, Boost (alot of work), Cricket.
Just disable mobile data in settings. It will be a cool picture taker and mp3 player lol, a very nice one.
Would you sell it? Pm me a price.
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yea thats what i thought too, be like an ipod touch but better. No i promised her i wouldn't sell she is afraid sprint will find out and charge or fine her. thats why she wanted to throw it out. i told her i will just keep it as toy and not activate or try selling it. but i like having it. lets me keep my blackberry for calls and i just play w/ this.
although why can't i get google voice to work on it? will google voice only work through mobile network?
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yea thats what i thought too, be like an ipod touch but better. No i promised her i wouldn't sell she is afraid sprint will find out and charge or fine her. thats why she wanted to throw it out. i told her i will just keep it as toy and not activate or try selling it. but i like having it. lets me keep my blackberry for calls and i just play w/ this.
although why can't i get google voice to work on it? will google voice only work through mobile network?
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I've been doing something similar for a while now. I got my evo right around the day it came out. A few months later I decided to transfer my service over to an old phone and minimize my service at sprint (saving approx 40 a month). i use just wifi on my phone (which is all i really used anyway). Your best bet is to just put the phone into airplane mode, and then re-enable the radio's you want (i.e. bluetooth and wifi). I know you used to not be able to do this, but i run CM7 which you can (other roms you may be able to now as well). I'd love it if i could just strip that part of it out completely. however, some apps (primarily swype for me, but i'm certain there are others) require to have some sort of communication with the towers. If I forget to turn back on the radio after booting and then try to use swype i get errors. just an fyi.
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yea thats what i thought too, be like an ipod touch but better. No i promised her i wouldn't sell she is afraid sprint will find out and charge or fine her. thats why she wanted to throw it out. i told her i will just keep it as toy and not activate or try selling it. but i like having it. lets me keep my blackberry for calls and i just play w/ this.
although why can't i get google voice to work on it? will google voice only work through mobile network?
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Google voice uses the phone to call out just like placing a regular call.
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^ that one
< jealous of the free evo =P
+1 on airplane. Though it would be nice to actually have a rom that allowed all radio functions to be perm-removed from the software.
I purchased a Droid X through Ebay.
Being that my line has to be activated through my job, I have to wait untill they activate it before I can have phone service on it, they are 5 days behind in activations and I don't feel like waiting.
I was able to by pass the activation screen so I am now in the phone, but once again it is not Activated on the verizon network, I am using Wifi right now.
If I root and flash a rom, will I be able to still activate it if I flashed a rom or was rooted in general? or should I just wait it out?
yea u can still activate it. as long as they are NOT gonna due a quality check or some bs like that then u should have no problems... u just wont be able to update it.
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I am on Verizon, and am running CM11...I just switched on Friday, and am running in to a problem where no one with an iPhone's (75% of the people I know) texts come through to me. I deactivated my phone number from the iMessage/iCloud/whatever servers, and now the messages don't even go to my old iPhone. I'm assuming the problem is that I forgot to turn iMessage off before activating my G2.
Apple said it would take about 24 hours (?) for the change to go through...so just in case this may have something to do with my G2, or CM11, or something unrelated...I figured I'd ask here...because it should be working by now.
Yay apple, my brother just went through this. Go to a vzw store. Have them activate an iPhone for you, disable all that i cloud crap, then reactivate your REAL phone and you'll be good to go... Way easier than option b which is via apples + verizons customer service. This will work.
-VZW LG G2 VS980
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I am on Verizon, and am running CM11...I just switched on Friday, and am running in to a problem where no one with an iPhone's (75% of the people I know) texts come through to me. I deactivated my phone number from the iMessage/iCloud/whatever servers, and now the messages don't even go to my old iPhone. I'm assuming the problem is that I forgot to turn iMessage off before activating my G2.
Apple said it would take about 24 hours (?) for the change to go through...so just in case this may have something to do with my G2, or CM11, or something unrelated...I figured I'd ask here...because it should be working by now.
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Ugh. I had this same problem. I was using my iPhone as an iPod after I got my galaxy S3 and all of my texts from iPhone users would spam the iPhone every time I got near Wi-Fi. It was horrendous. I was able to fix it by disabling iCloud on the iPhone and the Apple website in my account settings.
Hope this helps, in case you've already wiped or sold the iPhone, you can (or at least, you could a year ago) turn off iCloud on the Apple site.
EDIT: it's probably important to note that I'm on at&t right now so all i had to do to use the iPhone is put any at&t SIM in it.
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annoyingduck said:
Yay apple, my brother just went through this. Go to a vzw store. Have them activate an iPhone for you, disable all that i cloud crap, then reactivate your REAL phone and you'll be good to go... Way easier than option b which is via apples + verizons customer service. This will work.
-VZW LG G2 VS980
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Will this work even if I've already turned iCloud/iMessage/etc off? Here's the order I did things in:
1. Activated Android phone WITHOUT turning off iCloud/iMessage/etc.
2. Turned on iPhone at my home (connected to WiFi) to grab some information off of it - saw a dozen iMessages sent from all my people that use iOS
3. Turned off iMessage from the iPhone.
4. Called Apple customer service, had them disassociate my phone number from iCloud/iMessage/etc.
5. Issue was still occuring after the 24 hours Apple said it would take for their servers to propagate the change. Made this post.
6. Spoke with Verizon customer service. In-store, they said there was nothing I could do but wait and tell everyone I know with an iPhone to make sure to re-send failed iMessages as text messages. Over the phone, the rep put me on hold and did something to my line (wouldn't tell me what) that she stated should "fix" the issue, but that I still needed to tell everyone I knew that used an iPhone to delete me as a contact, delete our message threads, and re-enter me as a contact.
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At this point, iPhone users "texting" me worked about a quarter of the time. My wife could do it just fine, and didn't have to do any re-sending as a text. Others, however, were still having to do so, and in even more rare cases, some didn't even have the option...it would just send as iMessage and I'd never get the message.
Now, over a week later, the issue is still occuring. Annoyingduck (or anyone), do you think that if I activated an iPhone, enabled iMessage, and then disabled it and then deactivated the iPhone and reactivated the Android (like I should have done initially...they really should put a notice about that in the Quickstart guide!), it would clear the issue up? Do you think I would need to wait any period of time to let Apple's servers catchup? This just seems like such a massive oversight on Apple's part, which is making it really confusing.
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Will this work even if I've already turned iCloud/iMessage/etc off? Here's the order I did things in:
1. Activated Android phone WITHOUT turning off iCloud/iMessage/etc.
2. Turned on iPhone at my home (connected to WiFi) to grab some information off of it - saw a dozen iMessages sent from all my people that use iOS
3. Turned off iMessage from the iPhone.
4. Called Apple customer service, had them disassociate my phone number from iCloud/iMessage/etc.
5. Issue was still occuring after the 24 hours Apple said it would take for their servers to propagate the change. Made this post.
6. Spoke with Verizon customer service. In-store, they said there was nothing I could do but wait and tell everyone I know with an iPhone to make sure to re-send failed iMessages as text messages. Over the phone, the rep put me on hold and did something to my line (wouldn't tell me what) that she stated should "fix" the issue, but that I still needed to tell everyone I knew that used an iPhone to delete me as a contact, delete our message threads, and re-enter me as a contact.
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At this point, iPhone users "texting" me worked about a quarter of the time. My wife could do it just fine, and didn't have to do any re-sending as a text. Others, however, were still having to do so, and in even more rare cases, some didn't even have the option...it would just send as iMessage and I'd never get the message.
Now, over a week later, the issue is still occuring. Annoyingduck (or anyone), do you think that if I activated an iPhone, enabled iMessage, and then disabled it and then deactivated the iPhone and reactivated the Android (like I should have done initially...they really should put a notice about that in the Quickstart guide!), it would clear the issue up? Do you think I would need to wait any period of time to let Apple's servers catchup? This just seems like such a massive oversight on Apple's part, which is making it really confusing.
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Of you still have your iPhone, then yes do that and you can do it over the phone. Otherwise go into the store and MAKE them activate an iPhone for you so you can do it yourself while in the store. They must honor this. If they give you a hard time demand it and speak to a manager. That's what my brother had to do...
-VZW LG G2 VS980
annoyingduck said:
Of you still have your iPhone, then yes do that and you can do it over the phone. Otherwise go into the store and MAKE them activate an iPhone for you so you can do it yourself while in the store. They must honor this. If they give you a hard time demand it and speak to a manager. That's what my brother had to do...
-VZW LG G2 VS980
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Thanks. I don't still have the same iPhone I was using, but I have an older one....safe to assume that would work if they would obviously have to use a completely different one at a Verizon store?
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Thanks. I don't still have the same iPhone I was using, but I have an older one....safe to assume that would work if they would obviously have to use a completely different one at a Verizon store?
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I'm no iPhone expert, but I assume if it's got a vzw Sim in it, there's no reason it won't work. Unless that text secure crap is only in the newer iPhones?
-VZW LG G2 VS980
annoyingduck said:
I'm no iPhone expert, but I assume if it's got a vzw Sim in it, there's no reason it won't work. Unless that text secure crap is only in the newer iPhones?
-VZW LG G2 VS980
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I don't believe so. I don't think it has anything to do with security...it's just like data messaging, instead of SMS...like BBM on Blackberry. It's not even exclusive to iPhones...it's on iPods, iPads, etc. I had it on my 4S when it was still running iOS 6 over a year ago, and nothing ships with any older OS, so I should be fine on that front.