Is it Safe to Root before Activating phone? - Droid X General

I purchased a Droid X through Ebay.
Being that my line has to be activated through my job, I have to wait untill they activate it before I can have phone service on it, they are 5 days behind in activations and I don't feel like waiting.
I was able to by pass the activation screen so I am now in the phone, but once again it is not Activated on the verizon network, I am using Wifi right now.
If I root and flash a rom, will I be able to still activate it if I flashed a rom or was rooted in general? or should I just wait it out?

yea u can still activate it. as long as they are NOT gonna due a quality check or some bs like that then u should have no problems... u just wont be able to update it.
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How often can you activate and DeActivate a verizon phone./ incredible

I currently have a incredible and might be buying a droid x on craigslist.
Can i just activate the Droid x for a few days and then switch back to my incredible every so often and go back and forth ?
I dont want to spend the extra money on another line, but im a phone whore and love to try out different phones.
Using the VZW website with your account, you can change the MEID # that is used for your account pretty much on the fly. As long as the device is in the same class there should be no problem.
I used to do this a bunch between two Omnia i910's so that I could test flash updates on a test phone without screwing up my real work one on the same account.
Been a while since I've done that, but I know the feature to switch is still there and you don't need to call in like in the old days to get them to switch.
krelvinaz said:
Using the VZW website with your account, you can change the MEID # that is used for your account pretty much on the fly. As long as the device is in the same class there should be no problem.
I used to do this a bunch between two Omnia i910's so that I could test flash updates on a test phone without screwing up my real work one on the same account.
Been a while since I've done that, but I know the feature to switch is still there and you don't need to call in like in the old days to get them to switch.
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I did that a couple of months ago when I lost my Incredible and had to use my...ugh...Storm. It was a piece of cake.
Is this different front just dialing *228? I have a droid 2 that I want to keep switching to... where do I find this on the VZW site?
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Just use *228 and leave the computer out of the equation. Just put the phone your currently using in airplane mode and dial *228 on the device your going to.
I do this VERY regularly between my incredible and my eris. I rooted and disabled the camera on the eris so i can bring it to work, but love my incredible and camera so i switch back after work. Takes 2 minutes and never has cost me a thing in the monthes ive been doing it.
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Alltel to ATT Transition: Root and Flash before Line is Active?

I am part of the group being merged from Alltel to AT&T; I selected the Liberty/Aria for my next phone (coming from a rooted/flashed HTC Touch for many years).
AT&T will be sending the phone out this month, and then will activate the line next month as part of the merger.
Looking to root and flash CyanogenMod7 on the Aria, but curious if this is something I can do upon receiving the phone, or if I should/would need to wait until the phone is activated for service.
AT&T states they will send a text on our Alltel phones that will state "start using your new AT&T phone now," so not sure if it's really activation; maybe just a phone home?
I don't want to root/flash and then have the phone not become active in April.
I'm fine waiting... just looking for anyone else that may have been in this situation and has some insight.
How interesting I was in this situation a couple months back when Unicel merged with AT&T. There isn't really anything you can do that will really be that beneficial to starting the rooting and flashing process before you get the phone. Maybe install the drivers? And as far as the activation I received my Aria fairly promptly so I had it for like 3 weeks until activation. I'm pretty sure I got a text message the day before activation informing me to carry both phones on me. I had an unlocked T-Mobile SidekickLX and I was carrying both it and my Aria on me. Unfortunately it seems the Unicel service was cut before the AT&T service started for me. It took me about two hours without having access to a phone and when the Aria did activate after setup I received all the missed calls and text message notifications from that time where I had no service. Either way it both the wait for the phone and the wait for it to be activated were all worth it.
I LOVE MY ARIA!
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vicmora5:
Thanks for your informative post; I hope it all goes smoothly.
Truth be told I just want to play when that Aria arrives; but I can wait if it's a no-no.
Looking for a "yes, I've been there and done that! Rooted and flashed my device before the line was active; go for it!"
If I don't get that kind of response; I better wait
Ohhhh!!!
Sorry I completely forgot about that aspect of it. I didn't even open the Aria until I was about to have it activated. I'm actually not sure about what happens if you root and flash pre-activation /=
Sorry I guess im not much help, but I hope you find an answer and get everything working fine
Hi there,
I received my Aria aboout two weeks ago and it is not set to be activated intil early-mid April.
I have loaded it up with apps via Wifi...it does everything I need it to do short of being able to make/receive a call. I did remove the SIM first.
I am wondering if I can root this device and upgrade the OS before it's active, and what will happen if I do these things then reinstall the SIM that came in it.
I rooted and flashed my aria already, i don't see why it would matter at all. I wanted to play some games on it (like nfs:shift and angry birds) and surf the web via my portable hotspot (clear wireless). I've had 0 issues, but i'm not set to be active with att until april. I assume if something screws up, I'll just have to flash back to stock, set it up, then reflash back later. worse comes to worse I'll flash to stock and return it, lol
Once you put sim card in aria from at&t you want have any problems ..
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terces said:
vicmora5:
Thanks for your informative post; I hope it all goes smoothly.
Truth be told I just want to play when that Aria arrives; but I can wait if it's a no-no.
Looking for a "yes, I've been there and done that! Rooted and flashed my device before the line was active; go for it!"
If I don't get that kind of response; I better wait
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Yes you can root and install a custom rom prior to activation. Plus its the sim card, not the phone that needs the actual activation.
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CallMeAria said:
Yes you can root and install a custom rom or games or whatever prior to activation. Plus its the sim card, not the phone that needs the actual activation.
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Thanks for all the replies, they sure were helpful.
I'll plan on rooting/flashing pre-activation then; that way I can have the phone all ready to go when it goes live.
Coming from the non-SIM world, I sometimes forget that everything is tied to that SIM card and not in the phone itself.

Your neighborhood Verizon Account Rep - ask me!

If anyone has any questions or concerns please feel free to ask.
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It's a trap! o>O
No its not. I work for verizon
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Okay here's a ? How can I prevent scammers from calling me without using a app? I keep getting a scam call saying that big red has awarded me soso amount off my bill and they keep changing the # and when ever I call vzw to report it they act like it's not their problem thanks
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Mhm...definitely strange. I have heard of that scenario as well from some of customers. First off if your getting a call saying that they awarded you some money of your bill thats a lie. Two...if anyone calls you saying that they can save you money on your verizon bill then that could be a local verizon account rep your speaking with. However if that turns out to be the case they will normally attempt to set up an appointment with you to come in to a local store so they can do an waa with you (wireless account analysis) to see what can be done on your account to see if they can help you save a couple bucks a month, see if you have any available upgrades and etc. Three...if they are not directing you to a local store then thats extremely fishy. 4. As far as blocking spammers from calling you without using a app would really depends o what device you currently have. I have a note 3 and it provides exellent call blocking, text blocking and etc features. Which device do you currently have?
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How can I add a line with unlimited data?
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Verizon no longer currently offers a unlimited plan to new lines of service. The only way you can have the unlimited data plan currently is by a having grandfathered in or b talking to a friend or family member who has a line that with the unlimited plan that they will be willing to give up to you through the means of assumptions of liabilites meaning if they would be willing to give up the line to you...you then can take over that line of service and put it under your name. However by doing so they will run your credit again to see if your aproved to take over that line. Also added benefit in doing so is that wherever that person left off in their contract would be where you would continue off from. By taken over the line ut does not require you to restart the contract of that new line you just took over and put underneath your name.
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Can we please keep the ability to root the device? I feel that a Locked Bootloader, even though not ideal, is okay as long as Verizon keeps the device relatively updated. (Or to put in other words, I don't think that Verizon would ever allow the bootloader to be unlocked).
But without root, there are a lot of features that Samsung have removed (such as the ability to add Widgets to the lock screen when it is locked) and wouldn't be accessible to us even though it is available to most other android devices. Same with backups.
Ive heard talks about this petition to unlock the bootloader for the note 3 but to be honest ive not heard any confirmation or caught any wind of verizon actually doing that. And yeah I see what your saying. And I can add lockscreen widgets to my note 3 without root.
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App widgets or any type of widgets to the lockscreen? Such as the clean master one touch boost widget om your lockscreen for example?
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If anyone has any questions or concerns please feel free to ask.
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tell your boss to tell his boss to tell his boss to tell his boss to tell his boss to tell his boss to stop locking down F'n Verizon Phones
Lmao ill be sure to voice your input haha
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Any news on when the Pink variant might come to Verizon?
Sorry but unfortunately at this time there hasn't been any official updates as to when or if wether or not verizon will actually be offering the note 3 pink.
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I'm having crackling and poping sounds from my earpiece and the home button is wobbly. I am getting a certified refurbished replacement in the morning. If the replacement has issues what are the chances of getting a brand new device?? I haven't had the best luck with refurbished replacement. And are the certified refurbished replacement really refurbished?? I mean the phone hasn't been out a month yet.
I live in an area with the worst service for Verizon. I never receive calls or texts. My only option is a network extender. Is it possible to get one for free? I spent $400 on this phone and now I'm locked down for 2 years. I don't wanna spend another $300 to use the phone I just bought. -_-
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What does the new update that was just released for the Note 3 improve?
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@Southern mind im sorry about the problems your having with your find. As far ar you getting a new device your chance might be 65% id say since the device is still new. How many fully refurbished phones can corporate really have so far since the phone just came out? Its not even been a momth yet since the phone came out.
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And since the phone just came out that certified refurbished device may not really be one. Could be brand spanking new
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@eurofeik hey bud. And the coverage within your area is that bad? What type of device do you have by the way? Is it a 3g device or a 4g? For the price you said you spent on the phone am guessing you probably have a 4g device if so thats strabge your signal is that bad because normally with our 4g devices the technology increases in building penetration, voice quality and reception. Also what area do you live near? So I can look furthermore in to details for you? And I cant promise you that they will give you one for free but have you also tried calling customer care and seeing what they say?
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[Q] another rooting razr m post questions

had trave mod wifi with motochopper root on my old razr m, turned off the update message, phone was about 6 months old and took a ****
got a replacement phone on the old update (yay!!) and never even thought about it updating because i figured there had to be something out for the new update by now... had the phone for 2 days and woke up the morning after a good drunk (hung over like a mofo) and was trying to send a text when the update popped up and i hit yes.... so 98.30.1.xt907 is what im on now and appears to be an epic fail at this point lol
my bootloader is locked and 4G is the only internet out in my area so im not paying verizon $100 a month for internet again... so my questions.
I dont really need root if i can use mobile hotspot or foxfi or w/e wifi app for free. Id pay for the app if it unlocked the ability to use mobile hotspot...is it possible and is there one out there?
If i cant do it without root is there one out there for the new update (searched this hard far and wide doesnt look good)
If there is no hope of free mobile hotspot on this phone what are a couple newer 4g phones through verizon i could buy (still on the old unlimited plan)
thanks for any help
L1ND said:
had trave mod wifi with motochopper root on my old razr m, turned off the update message, phone was about 6 months old and took a ****
got a replacement phone on the old update (yay!!) and never even thought about it updating because i figured there had to be something out for the new update by now... had the phone for 2 days and woke up the morning after a good drunk (hung over like a mofo) and was trying to send a text when the update popped up and i hit yes.... so 98.30.1.xt907 is what im on now and appears to be an epic fail at this point lol
my bootloader is locked and 4G is the only internet out in my area so im not paying verizon $100 a month for internet again... so my questions.
I dont really need root if i can use mobile hotspot or foxfi or w/e wifi app for free. Id pay for the app if it unlocked the ability to use mobile hotspot...is it possible and is there one out there?
If i cant do it without root is there one out there for the new update (searched this hard far and wide doesnt look good)
If there is no hope of free mobile hotspot on this phone what are a couple newer 4g phones through verizon i could buy (still on the old unlimited plan)
thanks for any help
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Unfortunately, you can't root that system version. There is the entitlement hack for people that are still on the unlimited plan, but I think you need to be rooted to modify the build.prop. With that being said, I'm not sure about all the phones that Verizon offer, but the HD and M were both updated at the same time and that update blocked root. The X can be rooted and you should be able to run the hack on that. However, you'll have to pay full price since you're going to upgrade off contract.

What Are The Chances ?

That I go out and plunk down $600.00 for a new VZW S5 and out of the box it is of a newer version that can't be rooted?
(I have to buy full retail to keep un-limited data plan)
I should be able to power it up out of box prior to purchase to check version number? What ver should I be looking for or what to avoid like the plague?
Chopstix9 said:
That I go out and plunk down $600.00 for a new VZW S5 and out of the box it is of a newer version that can't be rooted?
(I have to buy full retail to keep un-limited data plan)
I should be able to power it up out of box prior to purchase to check version number? What ver should I be looking for or what to avoid like the plague?
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It has nothing to do with when the phone was made. It has to do with the firmware of the phone and since the firmware version hasnt changed since the phone was rooted then you will be fine. It may not even make a difference when new firmware is released. It depends on if google fixes the loophole because its not just a samsung problem, its an android problem. The root works for most any android device. If you have been keeping up with you it, you would know that Google recently hired the guy, geohot, that found the root, so it is only a matter of time before it is fixed but it will take a long time to release new firmwares for every phone infected. This may never happen and it just may be fixed in new phone releases such as the note 4 or galaxy s 6.
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Its simple just get the VZW Developer S5 if your going to buy it outright. So you can enjoy root and all that unlocked bootloader goodness. Here's the link for the Developer S5 http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/ET-G900VMKAVZW
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miller1821 said:
It has nothing to do with when the phone was made. It has to do with the firmware of the phone and since the firmware version hasnt changed since the phone was rooted then you will be fine. It may not even make a difference when new firmware is released. It depends on if google fixes the loophole because its not just a samsung problem, its an android problem. The root works for most any android device. If you have been keeping up with you it, you would know that Google recently hired the guy, geohot, that found the root, so it is only a matter of time before it is fixed but it will take a long time to release new firmwares for every phone infected. This may never happen and it just may be fixed in new phone releases such as the note 4 or galaxy s 6.
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Where did you read Google hired George at?
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Dennisg34 said:
Where did you read Google hired George at?
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Here from BBC.
22jk said:
Its simple just get the VZW Developer S5 if your going to buy it outright. So you can enjoy root and all that unlocked bootloader goodness. Here's the link for the Developer S5 http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/ET-G900VMKAVZW
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Good point !! The only problem I envision I may encounter is the extended warranty. I bought the GNEX the week it hit the market and pay the 5 bux a month for the extended warranty. I drive a truck and am rough on phones. The charging port loosens up and quits working. I've already checked with VZW and they offer it on the standard S5. I am on my 5th GNEX over the years that they have over-nighted me at no cost with the warranty. I'm going to have to find out if I can get that on the dev edition.
Edit:Yeah I was afraid of that .... just got out of a chat session with VZW rep. To get the extended warranty I would have to buy the phone from VZW. They don't sell the dev edition, I would have to get it directly from Sammy and that only has the one year warranty. I didn't see anywhere on the sammy site to open a chat window to enquire about an extended warranty but I doubt it's available. Not to mention you have to send the phone in under their warranty terms and wait for a replacement. With VZW, they over-night a phone along with a paid return sticker and package and I have 10 days to return the broken phone. Can't go without my phone for weeks waiting for a replacement.
I've been running custom ROMS since my original MotoDroid and can't imagine going back to running stock. BUT !! I am grandfathered into the un-limited data plan and run the house off of the phones. Got rid of cable internet when they lit my town with 4G and I get 27.5m down and 18+ up.... So long as I can enable the wifi hotspot to broadcast, I guess I could live with a less than un-locked phone for now. Hoping in the future it will be.
You can get the warranty. When I was activating my phone I purchased online elsewhere the rep told me I could get it since they currently have "open enrollment" this was exactly a week ago. It's call back and all about it.
22jk said:
Its simple just get the VZW Developer S5 if your going to buy it outright. So you can enjoy root and all that unlocked bootloader goodness. Here's the link for the Developer S5 http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/ET-G900VMKAVZW
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whtciv2k said:
You can get the warranty. When I was activating my phone I purchased online elsewhere the rep told me I could get it since they currently have "open enrollment" this was exactly a week ago. It's call back and all about it.
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If VZW does not stock the dev edition, they aren't going to have a refurbed one on hand to replace mine with under the extended warranty. I can see what would happen now. Even if they sold me the extended warranty, if something happened and I had to get it replaced, the phone they will send out will be a standard consumer grade S5. I'll try another vzw rep but they were emphatic I must purchase from VZW to add the extended warranty to the phone.
Edit: just chatted with another rep and they told me yes I could get the ext warr when I activate phone. I mentioned how will they replace it if they don't stock it? rep's reply "good point" ... he agreed with me they would send out a consumer grade phone as a replacememt.
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If VZW does not stock the dev edition, they aren't going to have a refurbed one on hand to replace mine with under the extended warranty. I can see what would happen now. Even if they sold me the extended warranty, if something happened and I had to get it replaced, the phone they will send out will be a standard consumer grade S5. I'll try another vzw rep but they were emphatic I must purchase from VZW to add the extended warranty to the phone.
Edit: just chatted with another rep and they told me yes I could get the ext warr when I activate phone. I mentioned how will they replace it if they don't stock it? rep's reply "good point" ... he agreed with me they would send out a consumer grade phone as a replacememt.
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The rep probably had no clue. This is what they will do. The phone is exactly the same except for the dev has unlocked bootloader. So they will take an original refurb and rebrand it as a dev edition with unlocked bootloader and dev firmware. Its not that hard, just because we cant flash certain things doesnt mean they cant. You will get a refurb equal to what you bought. That simple.
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The rep probably had no clue. This is what they will do. The phone is exactly the same except for the dev has unlocked bootloader. So they will take an original refurb and rebrand it as a dev edition with unlocked bootloader and dev firmware. Its not that hard, just because we cant flash certain things doesnt mean they cant. You will get a refurb equal to what you bought. That simple.
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Not exactly that simple. It is true, you get a refurb equal to what you bought if bought from VZW. They do not sell the dev edition and I was told since dev edition is un-locked it automatically voids any warranty that VZW would recognize/honor, since they do not sell un-locked phones. My only hope would be if Samsung sold an extended warranty, which they don't. I did verify, they are currently having an 'open enrollment' where you can warranty a phone bought from other than VZW, but the un-locked proviso is in place according to them. It was the store manager I talked this over with and he seems quite knowlegble. I've dealt with him for years.
Yes, I love ROM's have been flashing since my original moto-droid. But so long as I can activate tethering to run the house on the phone I'd be all right. Looking for an answer as to whether I can revert to full stock to be able to do a warranty exchange if I safestrap it ...

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