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Using Hero Without Sprint Service

Because I am on a limited budget and I need to cut costs, will I be able to use my Hero as a PDA after I activate a basic phone and switch to a lower plan?

ThaLuser said:
Because I am on a limited budget and I need to cut costs, will I be able to use my Hero as a PDA after I activate a basic phone and switch to a lower plan?
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I already have the appropriate plan for the Hero. Will the phone work with Wi-Fi only after I switch to a basic phone and plan?

Good Question
Good Question,
I was wondering this myself. For future use of the phone after I move on to bigger and better ones (EVO4G).
At least get some use, or allow someone else to get use, as a PDA. Hell if google voice works, you still get a phone. Just need to be near wi-fi.

I switched to a basic phone and I was able to use my Hero as a PDA. The obvious stuff like calling, SMS, and MMS won't work. In order to get rid of the voicemail texts I received on my basic phone, I had to delete Visual Voicemail (Sprint_Core.apk) with adb. Otherwise the Hero without cellular service is great! The reason I switched to a basic phone is so that I can save up for the EVO 4G (or its successor) on my limited budget.

yeah, i just downgraded to the everything data plan to save cash. sipdroid+wifi ftw.
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Went Five months without sprint service on my hero,
It's kinda irrating sometimes but the phone still works as a pretty deccent pda. Left on the contract loophole back in dec, but it feels good to be back amazingly enough boost and tmobile pretty much suck or maybe it's just the cheap phones they had. Possibly look into getting a employee discount though, I'm paying around 65 a month with my 25 percent ups discount even though I don't work there anymore. But I do believe all folks with a credit union get a 10 percent discount on sprint also.
Also, be very careful of your minutes after you switch, everything mobile has kind of spoiled me for the most part be surprised how quickly minutes can add up

Yep, have a Samsung Behold 2, rooted and works on wifi for PDA, internet, music, movies.... Pretty much everything. Even used Google Voice with Sipdroid and my gizmo5 number in the past.

[Q] What's the strategy behind "no voice"

What do you think is the strategy behind selling the Tab with no voice capability? Make us buy two devices instead of one? I don't think that would work, the first carrier that decides to sell it with voice will get the whole market.
Is there some other reason I'm not seeing? Come to think of it, why am I buyng this thing from the phone company if it's not even a phone!?
I'm with Bell and the TV add clearly says "complete communications solution" and shows a guy in a phone call... but only when you get to to store do they tell you you can't actually make a phone call!
No hothead answers please and yes, I know you can flash the thing and make calls anyway...

davidke said:
What do you think is the strategy behind selling the Tab with no voice capability? Make us buy two devices instead of one?
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Exactly.
A few of us has commented on this in other threads... and I come down on the thought that all of the carriers are now rolling out these data-only (or Mobile Broadband, webConnect, DataConnect, etc) monthly plans where the obvious intent is to lock customers into multiple contracts -- one for their phone and another for their tablet device -- i.e., it is a play for additional revenue.
I can't imagine how there wasn't collusion involved here by the US carriers... unless it was Samsung's strategy, but that seems rather ham-fisted, even for Samsung.

Forcing you buying the device with additional data plan to the one you have now for your smartphone, that's whats behind date.

Wont I just cancel the data plan on my current phone when I get the Tab?
I'll be giving them less money not more... Why would anyone get two data plans?

Well, had just been to the TMobile store today to sort some other things out.
Had a chat with the sales girl who at first said it was impossible to get phone calls, they were different to the Euro models. When I took out my Tab and made a phone call, she was suprised but I pointed out that it was crazy I could get voice on Tmobile, but not 3G, but AT&T could be hacked to enable both. I asked 'why would I want to keep 3 accounts (my phone, my tab, and GF's phone) on TMobile, when I can more them to AT&T and get the device working the way I wanted to.
She couldn't really come up with a reason but didn't try to BS me. Eventually she realised that it was mad buying a phone capable device that had the phone part removed, but understood why I'd be bringing it back in < 30 days to get a refund and go to AT&T.
Then, after all that, she admitted that I wasn't the first person in complaining about it.
Sheesh.
But yeah, at this time, it's Prisoner's Dilemma. If NO-ONE offers voice, they'll get away with it. As soon as one carrier in the US offers it, the rest will have to offer it.

Jyveafk said:
Well, had just been to the TMobile store today to sort some other things out.
Had a chat with the sales girl who at first said it was impossible to get phone calls, they were different to the Euro models. When I took out my Tab and made a phone call, she was suprised but I pointed out that it was crazy I could get voice on Tmobile, but not 3G, but AT&T could be hacked to enable both. I asked 'why would I want to keep 3 accounts (my phone, my tab, and GF's phone) on TMobile, when I can more them to AT&T and get the device working the way I wanted to.
She couldn't really come up with a reason but didn't try to BS me. Eventually she realised that it was mad buying a phone capable device that had the phone part removed, but understood why I'd be bringing it back in < 30 days to get a refund and go to AT&T.
Then, after all that, she admitted that I wasn't the first person in complaining about it.
Sheesh.
But yeah, at this time, it's Prisoner's Dilemma. If NO-ONE offers voice, they'll get away with it. As soon as one carrier in the US offers it, the rest will have to offer it.
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Interesting I plan on doing the same but did she say anything about returning it with the modified firmware allowed?? But yeah I'm seriously trying to debate if I really like having my second phone as a access point just to access Internet with the tab , and going to AT&T now with no unlimited Internet would be a crappy option stupid AT&T

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Exactly.
A few of us has commented on this in other threads... and I come down on the thought that all of the carriers are now rolling out these data-only (or Mobile Broadband, webConnect, DataConnect, etc) monthly plans where the obvious intent is to lock customers into multiple contracts -- one for their phone and another for their tablet device -- i.e., it is a play for additional revenue.
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Well, the joke's on them because I've cancelled my smartphone line & using the hacked Skype app to handle all of my Google Voice calls over their 3G network for a cool $25 a month. Can't imagine Im alone.

Unfortunately for tmobile I am going to return mine and get one from att. Didn't know they offer non contract. And their data plan seems cheaper and I can enable voice...
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My buddy who is a manager for AT&T said there were 2 reasons to cripple the tab... #1 - why have customers have a total solution when they can pay for 2. #2 - can't have it take any fame from the iPad. Come on, why would AT&T make a stupid move and take out mms on their tab?! As small as it is but still, didn't they learn their lesson with mms on the iPhone?? He said this was covered in training. Im sure other US carriers have the same think in mind... Minus tmobile for reason #2... I am rather surprised in tmobile as they have been Rollin out devices like nobodys business and meeting the community demand.

peestandingup said:
Well, the joke's on them because I've cancelled my smartphone line & using the hacked Skype app to handle all of my Google Voice calls over their 3G network for a cool $25 a month. Can't imagine Im alone.
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I just signed for Axvoice unlimited international for just under $17/mo. and will be porting my cellular number to it. Now I can choose Simple Mobile or At&t for $60/mo for data only on the respective Tab and have simultaneous data and voip. I've been wanting to do this for a long time but now the plans and options make it possible .

peestandingup said:
Well, the joke's on them because I've cancelled my smartphone line & using the hacked Skype app to handle all of my Google Voice calls over their 3G network for a cool $25 a month. Can't imagine Im alone.
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Agreed. I'm sure a ton of folks will simply move to a data-only voip solution... but then you have folks like me who can't deal w/ any voip lag and require a traditional voice solution (but then I'm just going to use an ATT reseller as I refuse to contract w/ ATT directly!).

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Agreed. I'm sure a ton of folks will simply move to a data-only voip solution... but then you have folks like me who can't deal w/ any voip lag and require a traditional voice solution (but then I'm just going to use an ATT reseller as I refuse to contract w/ ATT directly!).
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Tell her to keep quiet while you're talking, problem solved!

TurckBoatTruck said:
Agreed. I'm sure a ton of folks will simply move to a data-only voip solution... but then you have folks like me who can't deal w/ any voip lag and require a traditional voice solution (but then I'm just going to use an ATT reseller as I refuse to contract w/ ATT directly!).
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Yeah, I imagine it may not be a robust enough solution for a lot of folks, esp business types who need to talk on the phone a lot & need everything to be solid.
Fortunately for me, Im just a stay at home dad & dont talk on the phone that much. My wife & I mostly email/IM when she's at work, even when I had a smartphone. And the Skype/Google Voice combo works well enough when Im on the road to make/receive decent calls from random friends/family if I need that.
So for someone like me who uses much more data than voice, its pretty awesome that the US carriers actually didn't try to turn the Tab into a phone & charge extra for a voice plan.

Its possible to use the voip for the sprint g tab?
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wireless tether

I was wondering what is the easiest way to tether wirelessly without paying the extra monthly fee? I see there's an app for rooted users, but it doesn't seem to work very well.

you want to get tethering without paying for it and your asking us? ....

I would like to know too. I use to be able to tether (via USB and Bluetooth) with my BB for free on TMO. I heard that TMO is now charging which sucks but I heard if your phone is rooted that you can still tether for free on Android but then I read some people with a rooted phone still got the text about the 14.99 plan.. So it's a bit confusing. So is there still a way to tether for free? I only use it while on the train to connect my netbook to just do basic stuff like surf the web(no video playback) and check mail so even a free tether via bluetooth option wouldnt be horrible to me but if I could get the wifi hot spot working for free that would be awesome.

if your just checking email and stuff why dont you just use your phone.? i mean thats whats its for. instead of trying to look for a way to cheat the system why not just use it? thats why your paying for it anyways.....
and people wonder why phone internet and the such cost an arm and a leg.

syaoran68 said:
if your just checking email and stuff why dont you just use your phone.? i mean thats whats its for. instead of trying to look for a way to cheat the system why not just use it? thats why your paying for it anyways.....
and people wonder why phone internet and the such cost an arm and a leg.
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Because say if I'm on the train on my netbook or laptop doing work (non internet) and I want to check my email it's easier to just open a browser on the device I'm already using instead of pulling out my phone. And what's with the holier than thou attitude? I mean TMO use to allow it for free when other carriers didn't and people on all those other carrier's always found ways around it to get it for free.. so asking his question is a legit question since many many people have been "cheating" the system for years.. and cheating a carrier isn't really going to make me lose sleep at night.. especially because in many ways carriers have been cheating us for years..

its still not a legit question to ask. your catching yourself in a hole already. you said " tmobile USED to allow it and now they dont. end of story. and your saying that people always found a way around it. its all not legit. i dont really care if you dont care about cheating a carrier, but i doubt asking about it on here is going to be kosher. since this a forum about how to hack your phone to get more performance NOT about how to hack your phone to get stuff your NOT supposed to get for free.

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its still not a legit question to ask. your catching yourself in a hole already. you said " tmobile USED to allow it and now they dont. end of story. and your saying that people always found a way around it. its all not legit. i dont really care if you dont care about cheating a carrier, but i doubt asking about it on here is going to be kosher. since this a forum about how to hack your phone to get more performance NOT about how to hack your phone to get stuff your NOT supposed to get for free.
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Just answer his question or GTFO of here.
I believe that you can still use the wireless hotspot feature on your phone. I dont think T-mobile is charging for it yet. They will just cap your Data speeds if you use more data than they allow in a month.

I've been using the stock Wi-Fi Hotspot app since day one on my phone and have yet to receive the text, but then I never even get close to the 5GB "cap". some people have had the same "luck" as me where as others have gotten the text the very first time they use it... so I would suggest trying it out and if you don't get the text you're good to go.
if that doesn't work try Barnacle (in the Market).
besides every time I have asked a CSR about whether or not they charge to use the built-in Wi-Fi Hotspot app they tell me they don't know anything about it, even had one tell me that the phone didn't come with it and to check with the developer that uploaded it to the Market.

hmm How long have you been with Tmo? I wonder if the people who are getting the text about the 14.99 plan are new customers or if they are exsisting customers.. Maybe they are new customers so there accounts are built in with the block from the get and people who have been with tmo for a while are either 1.grandfathered and doesnt apply to them or 2. Hasn't been rolled out to all exsisting customer's yet.
The grandfathered thing I bring up because I know TMO has a great loyalty program usually whatever you got when you opened your account(features/services) you get for the same price no matter how high it goes up.. for example I use to have bb. for years I only paid 19.99 when TMO raised the price to I think 25 mine stayed at 19.00. When I just upgraded to android they gave me the unlimited plan for what I was paying for my BB unlimited plan 19.99. Another example is I got hotspot at home with my BB that allowed me to make calls over wifi without it deducting from my minutes for an extra 10 bucks a month.. after a while they stopped offering this service but I was still getting it. As long as I never removed it from my account it stayed.
So maybe it's a thing where if you signed up after that policy for wifi(or right around) you will get banged with the "you need a tethering plan" message otherwise you're good.. That's just a possible explanation based purely on a hunch..maybe.. kinda.. sorta

I've been with them since '05 on their original Family plan

I've been with them since 06.. I tethered on my BB up until 2 weeks ago when I switch to Android (I set my android up for wifi hotspot but havent used it yet because my netbook is being repaired) so it could possibly be that. I'm curious to know if the people who got this text message are new(er) customers and the ones that said they didnt get the text and have no problems tethering are older customers

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I tried the built in wireless tethering feature about an hour ago and I haven't received a text asking me to sign up for the monthly add on. I wasn't expecting it to work for free and I assume it won't be forever.
Has anyone who has rooted their MT4G had success using the barnacle app to wirelessly tether?

clivo360 said:
I tried the built in wireless tethering feature about an hour ago and I haven't received a text asking me to sign up for the monthly add on. I wasn't expecting it to work for free and I assume it won't be forever.
Has anyone who has rooted their MT4G had success using the barnacle app to wirelessly tether?
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yeah it was working for me, that was why I suggested it if you're not able to use stock. I just prefer the simplicity of the stock app, that and when ever I would tether with barnacle or the google code wireless tether my calls wouldn't come through but they do with the stock app.

AT&T blocking data connection ?

I got a nice SMS on March 18th from AT&T saying "An eligible data plan is required for Laptop, Tablet or MiFi devices. Call 611 as soon as possible for details and to avoid service interruption"
We are on 20th and I have no dtaa connection anymore
I happen to be paying the most expensive plan for my device (Coming from TP2), with an extra to have Exchange emails (Yeah can you believe you are charged extra for Exchange emails) and now.... I would have to pay even more because I use my SIUM in my tablet. WTF...
Maybe it's just me but if some of you have the same issue and found a workaround... Or maybe I should just step away from AT&T... F them...
Edit: Just got an SMS "Your data service has been restricted due to SIM swapping with a data Connect device". I pay 150$ a month for my data plan, calsl, etc... How much is not enough ????

I got the same thing. AT&T is now doing the same thing T-Mobile is doing. You cannot put a T-Mobile phone SIM in a T-Mobile tab, and, now, you cannot put an AT&T phone SIM (for example one with an unlimited data plan attached to it) into an AT&T tab.
It's all robbery.
My reaction to the text I got from AT&T was to erase, wipe, and flash my AT&T Galaxy Tab to Overcome 1.3.0, and then put my T-Mobile phone SIM into my AT&T Tab. Ha! THAT at least still works, since the two companies are separate.
And now, AT&T just bought T-Mobile! HA
Looks like after all the effort, I lose.
I am SO DONE with tablets and smartphones. Back to laptops and WiFi. The monopolies here in the U.S. are unbearable. And our government does nothing. No wonder the rest of the world hates us - we hate ourselves!

I got AT&T on the phone
The guy first explained me that technically tablets and phone cannot connect teh same way, etc, etc... So I asked him to stop the Bs#it because technically it was possible for 3 months... The guy I had on the phone was polite and pretty embarrassed...
I was straight forward explaining I don't mind paying for an extra tethering plan if that's what they want but I just want to carry around only ONE device, etc, etc... In the end he was very clear: they want us to use our tablet with a different plant and different SIM card. period
Now... for me it's clear they saw the IMEI of my device was different from the one I used to have so this + the fact I used a lot of Data may have triggered the detection... Or it is in the access point we use... But anyway/anyhow there is no way we cannot make our tablets appear as a Galaxy S or whatever other phone. Aside from the screen too much of the Hardware is similar to a phone not to be able to do something about it...
Meanwhile my data plan is frozen
I am SO pissed off. I can't believe I leave these guys 150$ a month and they can't even provide a decent service...

The worst: if I take a specific plan for my tab and trim down my phone plan it will cost me less
They are just F&*%#@ dumb and a terrible pain in the ass
Now let's work to "disguise" our Tab as a phone for AT&T connection...
I still think it has a lot to do with the Acces point setup... Or just the tethering... They guy on the phone was (maybe deliberately or not...) confusing about what was allowed and what was not... he was kind of implying that even if I get a tethering plan, tethering from my phone to my Tab would still be an issue if I don't use some kind of AT&T official tethering Software... (Weird...)
I am SO pissed off

I am thinking and if I go for the tethering plan I really don't see under which stupid claim they can block me... Sue it will cost more, but whatever...
Still this is justa shame

More AT&T fun I see.
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I Am Marino said:
More AT&T fun I see.
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Yes... Teh problem is since they try to avoid users going around their stuff it is not even easy to understand what is allowed or not. Initially i brought a phone from abroad and was told I could use it on an illimited data plan... Fine. But now the guy on the phoen didnt even wnated to be clear whether I could use a non AT&T phone for my plan (So we're not even talking about the tab)
I think they may be targeting heavy users that dont show the same IMEIR as the one they registered. Or soemthign else.. probably can detect by the protocols used that we are not technically ona phone (But hey technically, aside teh screen tehre is no major difference betweena Galaxy tab and a Galaxy phone...)

They are targeting unlimited data plan users who are sim swapping. If you're on the 2gb or tethering 4gb plan you shouldn't see anything. People were putting their sims into laptops/netbooks and going nuts. It breaches the agreement with AT&T and they have the right to change your plan if you don't reply to them or stop sim swapping.

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They are targeting unlimited data plan users who are sim swapping. If you're on the 2gb or tethering 4gb plan you shouldn't see anything. People were putting their sims into laptops/netbooks and going nuts. It breaches the agreement with AT&T and they have the right to change your plan if you don't reply to them or stop sim swapping.
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I am not using it in a laptop but in my Tab. I use my Tab as my main phone and I ma pretty pissed off that AT&T decides which phone they like and don't like. It's not EVEN about the money: I proposed them to pay for a tethering plan (which would be stealing from me but whatever) and they do not even care
I would not even mind going for the 4Gb plan but that would mean giving up on voice services on my tab, ie would have to carry around two devices which i definitely do not want
Going the 4Gb plan + stripping down my phone to the cheapest plan AT&T has, would cost me less than I pay now... So it's not even a money issue. I am completely pissed off since I a ready to pay whatever they want but they do not seem to care

Anyway it's fine. They managed to kill the GTab and all other 7" tablets to come
They nearly succeeded by originally forbidding calls on it. They succeeded with this last measure
It was for me the perfect size between a phone and an iPad. If I cannot have Voice + illimited data on it I will just go for a large 4.3" phone
Thank you AT&T for killing progress and congratulation for displeasing customers who were actually ready to pay (Because in actual facts I was ready to pay more if it is what they wanted from me)

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Anyway it's fine. They managed to kill the GTab and all other 7" tablets to come
They nearly succeeded by originally forbidding calls on it. They succeeded with this last measure
It was for me the perfect size between a phone and an iPad. If I cannot have Voice + illimited data on it I will just go for a large 4.3" phone
Thank you AT&T for killing progress and congratulation for displeasing customers who were actually ready to pay (Because in actual facts I was ready to pay more if it is what they wanted from me)
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I'm in the same boat, Alcibiade. Never tether, just like the phone and tablet in one device.
Just got off the phone with our friends at AT&T and got the same message. Unfortunately, there is no 4GB plan for data devices like the Tab, just "phones". So I'm stuck with carrying a phone and a Tab until we figure out a way around this issue.

I got the same message from at&t too. I think the only workaround to this is to get the telstra or the other canadian tab that uses the 850 band. Anyone with the telstra tab want to do a trade for a like new at&t tab?

Believe me it pisses me off too, and I work there. lol
I'm planning on getting a GTab and was going to use it for voice occasionally so it kinda throws a kink in the works. I have the 4gb tethering plan. I really just want to be able to jump right on the Tab and use it without kicking the hotspot on so I'll just end up going down to the 2gb plan for my Atrix and the 2gb plan for the Tab. I wanted to carry one device when I wanted to, but I love my Atrix so I'm not sure how often I would do it anyway.

I believe AT&T doing the same as T-mobile by look up the IMEI. The IMEI database will match the phone you use. The only workaround is change the IMEI on the tab.
You will see the TAB Icon under your att account but I did not see that months ago....

Currently on the phone with att about the same issue...thing is im using an htc desire from telus...im not swapping my simcard with anything at all. They are saying my device is coming up as a telemetry unit which is therefore making the assumption of sim swapping. On the phone for an hour now and the geniuses still cant figure out how to fix the issue.

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I believe AT&T doing the same as T-mobile by look up the IMEI. The IMEI database will match the phone you use. The only workaround is change the IMEI on the tab.
You will see the TAB Icon under your att account but I did not see that months ago....
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Not sure it's through the IMEI. How do they do if I use a foreign phone ? If it is that simple, we all know how to find a solution...
I hope they do not make me PAY for my data plan while I they block it, I would be even more pissed off
One point I do not get: if I pay for a Tethering plan (Which I don't but am considering if it can help), why the hell would they block me from using my plan the way I want. Illimited + tethering --> I use it on my tab or anything else doesn't matter (Could be my phone tethered to my laptop it would be the same)

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Currently on the phone with att about the same issue...thing is im using an htc desire from telus...im not swapping my simcard with anything at all. They are saying my device is coming up as a telemetry unit which is therefore making the assumption of sim swapping. On the phone for an hour now and the geniuses still cant figure out how to fix the issue.
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Funny cause it's exactly what I told them: I have a foreign phone as well (On top of my Tab) and I bet them that my foreign phone would have the same issue
MMh so they either detect what we do with the IMEI or potentially the radio (Or a combination of both)
I feel really bad trying to find a workaround while what I ma doing is perfectly legit when it is on my TP2, or I am even ready to pay for their Tethering plan........
If the issue is just the IMEI, that can be easily solved... But I dont like to have to be sneaky when again I pay honetsly my stuff every month
If you find a solution for your telus please tell us

Yeah I got that text last night around 9 pm I nearly craped my self. I was like wtf. I have the unlimited data. it shouldn't matter what device my Sim is in.. I guess I'll see what the tab does with the Sim that it came with. my Nexus still works fine though. I checked the website today and they are doing Maintenance to the data section. figures.

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Yeah I got that text last night around 9 pm I nearly craped my self. I was like wtf. I have the unlimited data. it shouldn't matter what device my Sim is in.. I guess I'll see what the tab does with the Sim that it came with. my Nexus still works fine though. I checked the website today and they are doing Maintenance to the data section. figures.
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I am pretty sure my Tab fits ok within a 4Gb plan (I don't tether anyway). BUT I just dont wnat to carry aound 2 devices. My phone + teh Tab. And if I ahve to use their stupid plan / SIM card I will have to
I am surprised we don't see many more reactions. I thought a lot of us were doing Data + voice using their phone plans... Maybe not everybody was blocked yet. Or I just overestimate the number of US users using their tab like this. What's unbelievable is how other countries are managing the Tab vs the US (real pain here...)

Alcibiade said:
Funny cause it's exactly what I told them: I have a foreign phone as well (On top of my Tab) and I bet them that my foreign phone would have the same issue
MMh so they either detect what we do with the IMEI or potentially the radio (Or a combination of both)
I feel really bad trying to find a workaround while what I ma doing is perfectly legit when it is on my TP2, or I am even ready to pay for their Tethering plan........
If the issue is just the IMEI, that can be easily solved... But I dont like to have to be sneaky when again I pay honetsly my stuff every month
If you find a solution for your telus please tell us
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After getting off the phone here was the scenario:
The guy admitted to me that he was not very familiar with what was going on, however I could tell he was still trying pretty hard to find out how to resolve the issue by calling other departments and he didnt have a bias towards me having an unlocked phone like I know ATT personel tend to have.
Basically there were 3 options
1. return the phone which I laughed in his face ( this was recommended not by him but by another person in a diff dept
2. Turn the internet back on with the risk of shutting off again ( which I did not do because he told my my account was now flagged for disuse of internet and could result in plenty of charges I wouldn't want.)
3. Wait until Tuesday for a call back from him since some1 has to manually put in my IMEI # and override the system, (which was apparently down)
I took option 3 with the hopes that this will be resolved by the time the rep gets back to me on Tues. If it doesn't go well my phone is basically useless and I will probably push for a free phone somehow. Best of luck to everybody else, I will update ASAP

StraightTalk for the Network unlocked Bravo user

Hey all. I just found (but has probably been out for awhile) a new thing that StraightTalk and the sister companies are doing. They are now offering GSM based SIM Cards for any AT&T and T-Mobile (and some sprint i believe) networked unlocked phones. Link at bottom for StraightTalk Sim card. They have both the full size card and the micro sim too. (For the iPhone 4s guys) I ordered a sim card last week and will hopefully get it on Thursday (7/12/12). I'll post later how it is and all. If anyone else has or had or will do this too post away how it worked out for you. StraightTalk and Net10 are both offering the SIM card for only $14.99 right now and charge you for shipping SOMETIMES. I was able to get just in under the limit that they were offering Free shipping on all orders $14.99 and over. Good for people that want a new Cheap phone service but want to keep their GSM based phone or cannot afford a new phone.
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StraightTalk

Excelent, awsome offert. But I will not enjoy it because I dont use Tmo or At&t.

@josuearisty: The SIM Cards can be used in any unlocked AT&T or TMO phone, ex. our Bravos. That's what I was talking about.
The SIM cards really work in about any unlocked GSM phone that works on 800mhz and 1900mhz bands.

Working......
Well my Sim chip came in yesterday, put it in my phone, went online and switched my equipment on www.straighttalksim.com. Well all was well yesterday after about 5min of easy work. Old phone turned off new one on. Ok. No data, no text's? huh? Oh ya! Switch the APN settings. Got the little red card that came with the chip and had the settings I needed. Cool I thought to myself. Punch in the settings, reboot, enjoy! Works! Cool. Make a test call, hmm. There's a ring, yea. Connects, yea. Can you hear me? Good. Everything works. Awesome. So I use it all day yesterday and what happens? You guessed it, battery dies. Ok fine, charge it. Charged overnight. Wake up. Checked my emails, didn't notice I was connected to my home wifi, was out side, sent off a text, it sent, I thought, waited, hmm, must still be asleep. Oh well. Took my son to school. Cool. Check my phone at school, no messages. Strange, I usually have something by now, it's been an hour. Make a call, "Were sorry but you have reached your service end date. To contune please add another airtime card or......" WTF!! WHAT HAPPENED TO MY 20 MORE DAYS LEFT! I JUST BOUGHT A DAMN CARD! Drive home PISSED. Called StraightTalk off the wifes phone. "Please hold for the next available customer service rep." ok shouldnt be that long "your expected wait time is TEN MINUTES", pause for information to sink in. WHAT!? Whatever. Then they answered. "How can we help you today Mister Jones?" You cut off my service, "Oh i'm sorry about that, let me transfer you to someone who can help you, may I do that now?" yes "Ok thank you and thank you for being......... yada yada" ok so next guy comes on "Hello how may I help you?" You cut my phone service off "Oh i'm sorry for that let's take a look at your account." So he does and then asks when did I start and when did I last buy a card and such and then he says please hold so I can look at the account. Well his hold I guess is just not talking, not the button. Well after about 6 min of just hearing him breathing he says "Ok mister Jones i've replaced 11 days of service for you, will there be anything else I can do for you today?" Umm you did what? "I've put the remaining days back onto your account that we're supposed to have transferred but didn't" Oh ok thank you that will be all for today. " I thank you Mister Jones for being a part..." CLICK! I really don't like talking to customer service people that much. So,, I've been having a fairly good experience except for the time I had no service.
Rating is interesting for this one. 7 out of ten for service (or having service), I guess 5 out of ten for the customer service people, and everything else is fine so far.

Your sig shows you running CM7? Mine or Quarx's? Need to know if I need to update the apns since Strait Talk is supposed to be there by default now.

No I use an old quarx one. If you need to know any apn let me know and I can find it for you. Most of the time I've seen that the apn settings are somewhere on the sim card and the phone saves them.
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Junkyardjames87 said:
No I use an old quarx one. If you need to know any apn let me know and I can find it for you. Most of the time I've seen that the apn settings are somewhere on the sim card and the phone saves them.
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I don't. Straight Talk's Apn comes with CM9 by default and I can get it from there. Just checked my APNs with my CM7 and I need to add that one in....Is they're unlimited data "AT&T\Verizon 2Gb Unlimited" or "Sprint Unlimited"? I'm thinking of going to Straight Talk and dropping off my parent's AT&T Family Plan.
//I still think AT&T & Verizon should be taken to court for offering unlimited data in big letters on the ads while its really only 2gb of data -- hardly unlimited, small, unreadable, quick changing terms you can barley read at the bottom of a 48" 1080p screen shouldn't count; I wouldn't complain if the cap was at 50gb+, but you can barley watch a few youtube videos with 2gb. I can easily burn 1+ gigs a day just with rom development (repo syncing, up\downloading roms, mods, syncing\installing apps after a flash); factor in streaming music, social integration apps, YouTube, email, web browsing, navigation, push ads....I can go on, but ya'll get the point of the rant.

I don't have the capped data I have the unlimited one. I don't know if they do like T-Mobile and roll your speed back after a few gigs or not. Alot of mixed information is online so until I use it I don't really know.
Short version. I have unlimited data.
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Junkyardjames87 said:
I don't have the capped data I have the unlimited one. I don't know if they do like T-Mobile and roll your speed back after a few gigs or not. Alot of mixed information is online so until I use it I don't really know.
Short version. I have unlimited data.
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I have a friend who has it, and from what I understood from him, its unlimited until you run out of minutes. Not sure if they throttle it or not, but I can deal with throttled internet....its being charged $20 for every 2GB that bothers me more than anything. He's only had it for less than a month as well and isn't a geek or tech savvy.
Makes me wonder if there's some way to use a VOIP service for calls with Straight Talk so you'd never go over the minutes and lose internet...

skeevy420 said:
I have a friend who has it, and from what I understood from him, its unlimited until you run out of minutes. Not sure if they throttle it or not, but I can deal with throttled internet....its being charged $20 for every 2GB that bothers me more than anything. He's only had it for less than a month as well and isn't a geek or tech savvy.
Makes me wonder if there's some way to use a VOIP service for calls with Straight Talk so you'd never go over the minutes and lose internet...
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I haven't looked around all that much but there are several voip options in the google store. I don't remember but I think you can use skype to call other skype users voip. I just pay the $45 a month and have unlimited everything for 30 days. I don't care about min or texts or data usage. I am watching how much data I'm using to see if they throttle me or cut me off. In the terms of service they do say to not tether or data but I am anyway. Netflix and youtube are also taboo to them as well but what do we care? I'? tethering to my laptop to watch netflix and youtube with open garden. I'm using the non-root open garden just to try it out and even though there is a very lax set of settings it works as it should. Only downside to the non-root app it that you have to have bluetooth on the receiving computer or device. Mines built-in on my laptop but not my wifes. As well the app doesn't work on her HTC rhyme.

Junkyardjames87 said:
I haven't looked around all that much but there are several voip options in the google store. I don't remember but I think you can use skype to call other skype users voip. I just pay the $45 a month and have unlimited everything for 30 days. I don't care about min or texts or data usage. I am watching how much data I'm using to see if they throttle me or cut me off. In the terms of service they do say to not tether or data but I am anyway. Netflix and youtube are also taboo to them as well but what do we care? I'? tethering to my laptop to watch netflix and youtube with open garden. I'm using the non-root open garden just to try it out and even though there is a very lax set of settings it works as it should. Only downside to the non-root app it that you have to have bluetooth on the receiving computer or device. Mines built-in on my laptop but not my wifes. As well the app doesn't work on her HTC rhyme.
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My buddy does it by the minutes, didn't know they had an unlimited service for $45 -- that's not bad at all -- which is why I thought the voip option was an idea to get around that, but I'd rather pay $45 for the unlimited anyways since its cheaper then AT&T's (un)limited plan.

Junkyardjames87 said:
I haven't looked around all that much but there are several voip options in the google store. I don't remember but I think you can use skype to call other skype users voip. I just pay the $45 a month and have unlimited everything for 30 days. I don't care about min or texts or data usage. I am watching how much data I'm using to see if they throttle me or cut me off. In the terms of service they do say to not tether or data but I am anyway. Netflix and youtube are also taboo to them as well but what do we care? I'? tethering to my laptop to watch netflix and youtube with open garden. I'm using the non-root open garden just to try it out and even though there is a very lax set of settings it works as it should. Only downside to the non-root app it that you have to have bluetooth on the receiving computer or device. Mines built-in on my laptop but not my wifes. As well the app doesn't work on her HTC rhyme.
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Did straight talk cut you off for watching Netflix ? I called their customer service about netflix, and couldn't get a straight answer about whether or not they allowed it. (no pun intended)