So my friend found someone's lost Droid 2 and wanted me to fix it for him. He wants it so he can take it to Verizon as if he had bought it and have it activated. It's locked, as in no service. He already did a factory reset.
Where do I look now? What exactly do I look for? I can figure out how to root it easy enough but after that I'm lost on what to do..
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Return to Verizon. The person who lost it probably reported it by now and Verizon blacklisted the ESN number or whatever. It's no good.
It's Christmas time dude, someone is probably really upset that they lost that phone. Do the noble thing and return it.
I am sure the person that lost the phone has all the family photos, family and friends numbers on it. Too bad that your friend didn't look up the number and try to return the phone..
Please put yourself in that person shoes. ...God Bless you(for helping your friend doing the evil thing) and most of all for your friend for not returning the phone to the owner.
Also just to add a personal experience:
I found a phone on the ground at a concert once, called the last number dialed in it and found out who it belonged to. Turned out to belong to the guitarist for the headlining band. Me and my gf got brought backstage, had an amazing party and got a ton of free ****.
However, if you do decide not to return it, I'm sure a few devs out there would love to get in touch with you to get the phone from you, namely people like blackdroid and cvpcs, who are currently working on D2 ROMs but don't have a device to test builds on. To those guys it doesn't matter as much if the phone is blacklisted, as it can still be used for development.
However, you should make an effort to return it to it's original owner, as there is no way you will be able to use the phone for service through verizon at this point.
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Also just to add a personal experience:
I found a phone on the ground at a concert once, called the last number dialed in it and found out who it belonged to. Turned out to belong to the guitarist for the headlining band. Me and my gf got brought backstage, had an amazing party and got a ton of free ****.
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That's awesome dude!
He found it weeks ago and just now.got it to me. He long since formatted it so all info was lost. I don't think he will be trying to return it.
Is there anything that can be done software wise? Or would the hardware unique to the phone make this impossible?
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He found it weeks ago and just now.got it to me. He long since formatted it so all info was lost. I don't think he will be trying to return it.
Is there anything that can be done software wise? Or would the hardware unique to the phone make this impossible?
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It's useless as a phone on Verizon. They block the ESN of the phone once it's reported lost/stolen and won't allow it on the network regardless of what you do to the software. You need better friends. Just because you find something doesn't make it yours. Especially when it's something like a phone that contains the owners contact info in it.
Yeah. Well thanks for the help.
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I agree w/ others on here that it would still be. Est to try to return it or to donate to a rom dev...
But how about bypassing the reg when you boot the phone and setting it up for making calls on wifi via skype or google voice? Should still be useful as a tablet computer, if anything.
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I think the right thing to do is to return it to a Verizon store and let them find the owner for you (they can look up the ESN and see the history of it and find the person that way).
But if you plan to keep it, you might wait until folks have successfully unlocked the SIM card and use it on a different network. Chances are Verizon can't blacklist the phone for AT&T or T-Mobile purposes.
You could either return it to verizon, give it to a dev for testing purposes, or sell it as blacklisted for parts on Ebay.
I'd go with option number 2 actually. it might end up helping you out in the long run if you have a D2 yourself.
I work at verizon I can look up the esn if you want
Just bring it to a verizon and say you found it. This is a very expensive phone and is most likely blacklisted. My aunt turned in a lost phone to a verizon store and got a credit from the manager. Your decency may pay off.
tell your friend to be nice and return it to verizon.
Lost my Droidx, never got it back
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I think the right thing to do is to return it to a Verizon store and let them find the owner for you (they can look up the ESN and see the history of it and find the person that way).
But if you plan to keep it, you might wait until folks have successfully unlocked the SIM card and use it on a different network. Chances are Verizon can't blacklist the phone for AT&T or T-Mobile purposes.
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Really???? I have to ask, do you have a Droid 2 for Verizon? Have you seen a sim card?
Just an FYI, Droid 2 uses CDMA and T-Mobile and at&t use gsm. Two totally different frequencies, and the Droid 2 will never work with either of them.
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Really???? I have to ask, do you have a Droid 2 for Verizon? Have you seen a sim card?
Just an FYI, Droid 2 uses CDMA and T-Mobile and at&t use gsm. Two totally different frequencies, and the Droid 2 will never work with either of them.
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cool your jets broski, he just confused it for a droid 2 global which, in fact, DOES have a sim card slot.
Technically the droid 2 has a sim card slot aswell it's just blocked by a piece of plastic glued to the top of the battery contacts and there aren't actual sim/GSM hardware but there is a slot for it.
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cool your jets broski, he just confused it for a droid 2 global which, in fact, DOES have a sim card slot.
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Yup, I did (that's the phone I have). My bad.
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Grrr... do not know what to, came with box and everthing so I did not expect it to have a bad ESN. Is it worth paying someone to flash to Cricket then Re-Craigslist it for Cricket only. I rooted my exsisting Eris but have no way to test if settings I make for DIC to Cricket will work.
Any ideas or opinions? Besides flames for being an idiot.
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Grrr... do not know what to, came with box and everthing so I did not expect it to have a bad ESN. Is it worth paying someone to flash to Cricket then Re-Craigslist it for Cricket only. I rooted my exsisting Eris but have no way to test if settings I make for DIC to Cricket will work.
Any ideas or opinions? Besides flames for being an idiot.
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Can you return it to the idiot that sold it to you
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Trying to, he is on the otherside of town and of course will not email back. I about died when they said I couldn't activate.
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That's why it's always good to meet right at VZW and have them check the ESN right on the spot....the dude probably stole it and sold it. He may also have called you from a payphone...Good luck getting a hold of him.
If it really is lost or stolen, I bet the actual owner would like to have it back. Won't VZW help with this? Any identifying data on the phone?
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Grrr... do not know what to, came with box and everthing so I did not expect it to have a bad ESN. Is it worth paying someone to flash to Cricket then Re-Craigslist it for Cricket only. I rooted my exsisting Eris but have no way to test if settings I make for DIC to Cricket will work.
Any ideas or opinions? Besides flames for being an idiot.
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the police should be able to help you, as it is illegal to sell stolen goods. or wait six months for verizon to take it off the blacklist.
Find out who owns it and give it back, that would be the right thing to do. You can't use it anyway. Try to work something out with the owner.
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If it really is lost or stolen, I bet the actual owner would like to have it back. Won't VZW help with this? Any identifying data on the phone?
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Once a ESN is blacklisted I though even VZW couldnt remove it? So even if they got the phone back it would be useless
My assumption is the phone was reported lost then replaced, found then sold.
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for what it is worth, I was a VZW store manager for years until just a few weeks ago when I left for a new job.
they can track the ESN back to whoever owned it, they will be able to contact that person for you, and tell them that a person has thier phone and they can contact you if they wish, and they will give that person your number. they will not give you the person's number(legal reasons obviously).
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a more likely situation, the guy who sold it to you used what is called a lost, stolen, damaged upgrade. many store managers use it to get a customer a device they want(like the wanted a droidX). this automatically puts thier old device on the LSD list. if it is on there you can really be VERY nice and butter up the store manager and don't be a douche and yell at them...and they can call into CS and have it taken off the list sometimes.
anyways, good luck, sorry you got screwed.
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for what it is worth, I was a VZW store manager for years until just a few weeks ago when I left for a new job.
they can track the ESN back to whoever owned it, they will be able to contact that person for you, and tell them that a person has thier phone and they can contact you if they wish, and they will give that person your number. they will not give you the person's number(legal reasons obviously).
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a more likely situation, the guy who sold it to you used what is called a lost, stolen, damaged upgrade. many store managers use it to get a customer a device they want(like the wanted a droidX). this automatically puts thier old device on the LSD list. if it is on there you can really be VERY nice and butter up the store manager and don't be a douche and yell at them...and they can call into CS and have it taken off the list sometimes.
anyways, good luck, sorry you got screwed.
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Guess I was wrong lol
The thing is that the guy already paid for it, so it just sucks...I would suggest:
-File a police report
-Try to get a hold of the guy and meet with him (or with police, so he tells truth)
-Make him refund the money and then try to give it back to the person or VZW (I am sure the original owner has a different phone now)
It is tough but just sad.
so my friend got a vibrant, and he wanted to file a claim for a lost phone to get one for his brother. as far as I know this is illegal. can you guys give me some examples of things that might happen to him if he goes through with it or some possible consequences? "it's illegal" isn't seeming to convince him.
Insurnce fraud. He would go to jail most likely.
TMobile can track the missing phone using gps and cell towers. They'll see where the phone is and get it for him instead of giving him a new one.
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so my friend got a vibrant, and he wanted to file a claim for a lost phone to get one for his brother. as far as I know this is illegal. can you guys give me some examples of things that might happen to him if he goes through with it or some possible consequences? "it's illegal" isn't seeming to convince him.
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Well your friend is slightly dumb. First of all, the lost phone is blocked for life. Meaning if anyone ever tries to put a sim card in it, and use it, on any network, it won't work. It is permanently blocked from registering onto any network. So basically your friend is going to get 1 refurbished phone in the mail, and his new vibrant will be blacklisted for ever.
Next, if they find out about the fraud, well he can face fraud charges. If he is underage on a family plan, his parents will face fraud charges.
Good luck.
thanks guys!
Its cheaper to buy one from wal-mart than to file a claim (Wal-mart new two year contract is $98.99, asurion charges $130, not to mention you run the risk (more likely than not) you'd get caught.)
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Well your friend is slightly dumb. First of all, the lost phone is blocked for life. Meaning if anyone ever tries to put a sim card in it, and use it, on any network, it won't work. It is permanently blocked from registering onto any network. So basically your friend is going to get 1 refurbished phone in the mail, and his new vibrant will be blacklisted for ever.
Next, if they find out about the fraud, well he can face fraud charges. If he is underage on a family plan, his parents will face fraud charges.
Good luck.
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well i have to say this is a bunch of bs... i havent done this but known people that have and nothing happens to the other phone they work fine and they dont track you down or go on some sort of man hunt lol but if you say you lost your phone it would be best to not use it anymore get another phone and give the one you had to whoever as long as its not on your plan you should be good.
just so you know im not a fan of thieves but i believe in stealing from big companies cause they steal from people everyday so i would say its fair...
You can do whatever you wish. I found my g1 from a club. Used it for 2 years no prob. Its a gsm phone so whatever the case anyone can put a sim card and use it. How you do it as far as claiming to get a new one is your business
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You can do whatever you wish. I found my g1 from a club. Used it for 2 years no prob. Its a gsm phone so whatever the case anyone can put a sim card and use it. How you do it as far as claiming to get a new one is your business
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lucky guy... i need to start going to clubs to look for phones lol
They will not blacklist it and they will not track it down.lol
Insurance don't deal with the phone company. You can claim online without ever speaking to anyone .
Also they do blacklist the sim but a new sim will work, this isn't cdma where ya need to call the phone company to activate a new bought phone, just put in your sim...
Hell who says ya can't lose it, then find it a week later, what you supposed to do send it back?
You pay the 130 you got 2 phones that work. My wife just lost her tp2 and we asked if whoever found it can just put on a new card and its now there phone, dude said yup, we can stop the sim but the phone is gone....
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can you guys give me some examples of things that might happen to him if he goes through with it or some possible consequences? "it's illegal" isn't seeming to convince him.
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Well, tell your friend that when he dies god is going to know he did it and will definitely be really pissed off and condemn him to spend all eternity in Pittsburgh with an incurable case of crabs on his nuts.
Seriously though, tell your friend to stop being shady and just man up and buy another phone if he wants it.
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They will not blacklist it and they will not track it down.lol
Insurance don't deal with the phone company. You can claim online without ever speaking to anyone .
Also they do blacklist the sim but a new sim will work, this isn't cdma where ya need to call the phone company to activate a new bought phone, just put in your sim...
Hell who says ya can't lose it, then find it a week later, what you supposed to do send it back?
You pay the 130 you got 2 phones that work. My wife just lost her tp2 and we asked if whoever found it can just put on a new card and its now there phone, dude said yup, we can stop the sim but the phone is gone....
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actually you can say you still have your sim but not the phone and they will be like ok? and you get to keep your sim still lol
T-Mobile can and most likely will block the IMEI number from being able to register on the network. They've done it multiple times for my sister when she has had the phone stolen or lost. They can insert another SIM card all they want and it won't work. It might work on AT&T, I don't know if the companies share blacklisted IMEI numbers.
Most likely, they would not go through the process of prosecuting a fraud case on something like this because the cost of the lawyers and other legal fees outweigh the cost of just paying the claim but you never know.
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T-Mobile can and most likely will block the IMEI number from being able to register on the network. They've done it multiple times for my sister when she has had the phone stolen or lost. They can insert another SIM card all they want and it won't work. It might work on AT&T, I don't know if the companies share blacklisted IMEI numbers.
Most likely, they would not go through the process of prosecuting a fraud case on something like this because the cost of the lawyers and other legal fees outweigh the cost of just paying the claim but you never know.
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No they don't black list IMEIs.
Well your "friend" meaning you is a complete moron and hopefully you get caught. People like you are the reason insurance deductibles are so expensive.
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well i have to say this is a bunch of bs... i havent done this but known people that have and nothing happens to the other phone they work fine and they dont track you down or go on some sort of man hunt lol but if you say you lost your phone it would be best to not use it anymore get another phone and give the one you had to whoever as long as its not on your plan you should be good.
just so you know im not a fan of thieves but i believe in stealing from big companies cause they steal from people everyday so i would say its fair...
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I never said they were going to track you down on a man hunt.
HOWEVER, they do deactivate your lost phone permanently. You can never use it on any network.
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No they don't black list IMEIs.
Well your "friend" meaning you is a complete moron and hopefully you get caught. People like you are the reason insurance deductibles are so expensive.
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for your information, they do blacklist the phone from working. If you file a claim the phone was lost/stolen, the phone will be blacklisted and no longer work when you try to register on a network.
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My wife just lost her tp2 and we asked if whoever found it can just put on a new card and its now there phone, dude said yup, we can stop the sim but the phone is gone....
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holly cow, you have a wife? with the comments you leave on here, I thought you were a 12 yr old.
they don't blacklist the IMEI because whoever finds it still has to have a service provider... its the same way with the iphone... Phone company is gonna get paid, regardless of whoever has the phone. I do think however that they lock the number associated with the simcard to prevent "fraudulent activities" i think its like 30 days i remember reading that at the tmobile website
google tmobile insurance replacement FAQs it lays it all out.
good luck, best to do it with a prepaid card so you don't lock a good number...
not that i would ever condone such behavior
Soooo not true.
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I've been in the cell industry for the last 6 years and can tell you for a fact, with GSM phones they do not blacklist or lock IMEI's. Its not even possible. The only thing they might do is see if you are stupid enough to use the lost phone on your own plan.
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holly cow, you have a wife? with the comments you leave on here, I thought you were a 12 yr old.
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I think I have a fan. Follow me on twitter douche bag...
And I'm the 12 year old sounding one.lol.
I just bought a used Atrix from a friend and don't want or need data. Plenty of wifi around me.
I have done some research on how to get around AT&T's auto data upgrade and it seems like everybody who gets a new iPhone who doesn't want or need data does the sim card swap. This is where they get a new sim card, put it in their old phone, call att and data block it, then put the new sim into their new iPhone. My question is, is this the only way to get around the auto upgrade? And will this work with any smart phone, not just the iPhone?
Sorry if this is an old topic, but I searched and couldn't find a suitable answer so I figured I'd come to the pro's.
Atrix 4G Q&A
For all of your questions relating to the AT&T Motorola Atrix 4G
Just call them and be like you cannot afford it. If the rep refuses ask for the manager, if he refuses ask them for the corporate number and call them. I did that few times to get early upgrades and always worked.
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The SIM card trick stopped working a while back, its impossible to not get a data plan with a smartphone now on AT&T unless you find a way to spoof your IMEI, which you're not going to find anything on because its illegal in some countries. Sorry.
They really shouldnt be able to force people to get data plans if they dont want them (for non-subsidized phones), but for now there's not much that can be done about it.
I don't think there is a way to avoid this since the minute you turn your phone on, they have your IMEI and all the other info based off of that. They made it very clear that you can't use smartphone without data plan. It will be added automatically
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Just call them and be like you cannot afford it. If the rep refuses ask for the manager, if he refuses ask them for the corporate number and call them. I did that few times to get early upgrades and always worked.
How did u get an early upgrade?
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... its impossible... unless you find a way to spoof your IMEI... its illegal in some countries.
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that's ridiculous. anyone know why?
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They really shouldnt be able to force people to get data plans if they dont want them (for non-subsidized phones)
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ifalldownalot said:
that's ridiculous. anyone know why?
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Smarter thieves often change a phone's IMEI number so that if a device is reported stolen, its harder to track. Also a way to get around having a phone's specific IMEI number banned from a network, again usually because of theft.
I'd like to get the s4 from a best buy location this week but I've got a few questions.
Do they do cross upgrades WITHOUT effecting the other line's sim/phone? I want to use my wife's upgrade but she'll be out of town so we can't have her sim/phone go off?
(I'm asking cuz in the past I had that happen)
If the upgrade date is 5/8,can I do it with best buy on may 1rst like I can at att?
Thanks to any best buy employees or otherwise experts who can help....
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I'd like to get the s4 from a best buy location this week but I've got a few questions.
Do they do cross upgrades WITHOUT effecting the other line's sim/phone? I want to use my wife's upgrade but she'll be out of town so we can't have her sim/phone go off?
(I'm asking cuz in the past I had that happen)
If the upgrade date is 5/8,can I do it with best buy on may 1rst like I can at att?
Thanks to any best buy employees or otherwise experts who can help....
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I can answer the first question but not the second, I don't have a clue about upgrade dates and such....
I used an upgrade from another account I manage yesterday and they told me that worst case scenario, the other phone will be deactivated for a second or two while they process the phone onto the account and then off of it, restoring the IMEI that was originally used.... if she has an LTE phone already, it will make the process a whole lot easier since they don't have to add an LTE provision and then remove it
That being said, I thought it was kind of wild they had to do any of that in the first place when I thought they could just process the upgrade as an in-store deal since it wasn't going on that account - they didn't pull out the phone and do a test call on it, so why would they have to activate it in the system for the other number and then remove it? At one time, the guy processing it who I thought I had confidence he knew what was going on turned to me and said "do you by any chance have that other phone available so I can get the IMEI off of it?" Well no, of course I don't, I told you that! You had it in the system before you deactivated it, put it back! haha, oh BBY.....
same here what happened yesterday, im goin to use my dad's
upgrade, since his phone is the galaxy s1, it turns out they deactivated his number(old sim) and they gave me the lte enabled sim, since i told them that i am the one gonna use both the s4 and s3 not my dad, they provided me a regular sim again for my dad but just to call 611 att customer service to transfer again the lte enbled sim to the regular one, such a hassel though, if only i have a simcard adapter that time.
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Ok so she has an iPhone 5(lte right?) on that line now(the line I will use the upgrade date from.)
So it will go off for a moment and back on? For sure? She'll be so far from a att store that any problems would be a HUGE issue for us.
Please let me know. Thanks for help guys.
From my experience regarding dates, yes. As long as its the first of the eligible month. This was 2 years back when i got the s2 so not exactly sure if policy changed but i doubt it. Radio shack did the same thing.
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Ok so she has an iPhone 5(lte right?) on that line now(the line I will use the upgrade date from.)
So it will go off for a moment and back on? For sure? She'll be so far from a att store that any problems would be a HUGE issue for us.
Please let me know. Thanks for help guys.
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The iPhone 5 is an LTE device, you should be good on that end
I sent a text to the number I was upgrading before to warn the person they may be without service momentarily, and then called on my way out of the store, they did not notice any interruption in service, so yes, it's for sure
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The iPhone 5 is an LTE device, you should be good on that end
I sent a text to the number I was upgrading before to warn the person they may be without service momentarily, and then called on my way out of the store, they did not notice any interruption in service, so yes, it's for sure
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Thanks for sharing the details of your experience!!! Good to hear.
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j510 said:
From my experience regarding dates, yes. As long as its the first of the eligible month. This was 2 years back when i got the s2 so not exactly sure if policy changed but i doubt it. Radio shack did the same thing.
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This is true of outside vendors like BB still? I know Att could do it but not sure about non att stores.
Best buy mobile employee here. Typically if you are cross upgrading it isn't an issue unless it's an iPhone 5 or an old phone that uses a standard sim card. If they call customer service they can typically make it work without deactivating the old phone, otherwise you would need to get a new sim for the other phone.
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Best buy mobile employee here. Typically if you are cross upgrading it isn't an issue unless it's an iPhone 5 or an old phone that uses a standard sim card. If they call customer service they can typically make it work without deactivating the old phone, otherwise you would need to get a new sim for the other phone.
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Thanks for chiming in!
But wait, iPhone 5s do cause the trouble I need to avoid? Even with the lte sim in it already?
And what about dates, can you do a 5/8 upgrade on 5/1?
Thanks.
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Thanks for chiming in!
But wait, iPhone 5s do cause the trouble I need to avoid? Even with the lte sim in it already?
And what about dates, can you do a 5/8 upgrade on 5/1?
Thanks.
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It is only a problem because they use a nano sim which is only compatible with an iPhone 5. As far as the upgrade date goes, Generally it's not an issue, we just might have to process it over the phone
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It is only a problem because they use a nano sim which is only compatible with an iPhone 5. As far as the upgrade date goes, Generally it's not an issue, we just might have to process it over the phone
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I appreciate your help.
My issue is my wife with the iPhone 5 will be a a very important trip where she needs the iPhone to work.
So I and she won't have access to the sim to change it out or anything.
Is what I want to do not going to work then?
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I appreciate your help.
My issue is my wife with the iPhone 5 will be a a very important trip where she needs the iPhone to work.
So I and she won't have access to the sim to change it out or anything.
Is what I want to do not going to work then?
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There is a good chance that it will work, but there is also the possibility that it doesn't. If we call AT&T to activate over the phone sometimes they are able to move the SIM without having to deactivate it. It will most likely not be an issue, but there is always a slight chance that it would be cut off. When you go to the store make sure you stress that her phone cannot be shut off and ask them if there is any way to do it so that doesn't happen.
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I went to a BB mobile store on 5/1.
My *639# said 5/8 for upgrade but she said she could do it no call to Att needed. So she did. All went well. Wife's lte iP5 didn't even turn off(that we noticed).
So cross upgrade went well. Stoked!
Thanks all for help.
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So let me tell you how this went down...
First, I go to a local Best Buy Mobile store to check out the Moto G for my girlfriend. They tell me they can't sell me one in the store until Jan. 9th, but if I purchase one online and choose to pickup in the store, I could get one. So I stand in the store, buy the phone on my GS4, and pick it up at the counter. Weird process, but whatever.
So I bought the phone. The lady at the register assured me that I would be able to use this on her line (which is a contract line). Go to activate it, and find out that it can't be done until the 9th. That's cool, no problem. Once I get home, I find out that the phone will only work on a prepaid line and BestBuy did not inform me of this. I go back up to the store to return it, but they won't take it back because it's opened. Oh, I forgot to mention, the lady at the damn counter was the one who opened it!
So, is there ANY way that I could get this to activate on a contract line without having it activated on a prepaid line for 6 months, or am I screwed? If not, is there a good way to bypass the activation and use it solely as a wifi "tablet" (for my girlfriend's kid)?
If I actually am screwed, anyone want this thing for $80 shipped in the continental US?
That's a lie about it being opened. I have returned prepaid phone there on several occasions. There is something either shady about your story or the person working but something isn't adding up here.
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There is no SIM slot right?
big gulps huh? said:
That's a lie about it being opened. I have returned prepaid phone there on several occasions. There is something either shady about your story or the person working but something isn't adding up here.
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Yeah, I thought something was fishy about that too. I'm going to try and take it back when someone else is working.
szymgio said:
There is no SIM slot right?
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Correct, there is no SIM slot.
rngrdanny22 said:
If not, is there a good way to bypass the activation and use it solely as a wifi "tablet" (for my girlfriend's kid)?
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You can bypass the activation easily, simply hit next 1 time, pull down the notification center, click on the multitasking button and swipe away the activation screen quickly, and boom! You have a $100 iPod touch alternative (which is why I bought it) I recorded a short video to show you, wiped it real quick because I just got it yesterday anyways
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youtu.be/qhphsyRFEy4
rngrdanny22 said:
Yeah, I thought something was fishy about that too. I'm going to try and take it back when someone else is working.
Correct, there is no SIM slot.
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It doesn't make sense to buy device without SIM slot...
szymgio said:
It doesn't make sense to buy device without SIM slot...
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Why? CDMA phones have never used SIM slots. It's only with LTE now that Verizon and Sprint have used SIMs in their phones
wws12 said:
Why? CDMA phones have never used SIM slots. It's only with LTE now that Verizon and Sprint have used SIMs in their phones
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I like to have choice.
uhm it was my impression that with bestbuy you can return prepaid phones opened within 14 days, the part you left out of your story is how long you waited to return the phone!
rngrdanny22 said:
So let me tell you how this went down...
First, I go to a local Best Buy Mobile store to check out the Moto G for my girlfriend. They tell me they can't sell me one in the store until Jan. 9th, but if I purchase one online and choose to pickup in the store, I could get one. So I stand in the store, buy the phone on my GS4, and pick it up at the counter. Weird process, but whatever.
So I bought the phone. The lady at the register assured me that I would be able to use this on her line (which is a contract line). Go to activate it, and find out that it can't be done until the 9th. That's cool, no problem. Once I get home, I find out that the phone will only work on a prepaid line and BestBuy did not inform me of this. I go back up to the store to return it, but they won't take it back because it's opened. Oh, I forgot to mention, the lady at the damn counter was the one who opened it!
So, is there ANY way that I could get this to activate on a contract line without having it activated on a prepaid line for 6 months, or am I screwed? If not, is there a good way to bypass the activation and use it solely as a wifi "tablet" (for my girlfriend's kid)?
If I actually am screwed, anyone want this thing for $80 shipped in the continental US?
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Nice
skyhawk21 said:
uhm it was my impression that with bestbuy you can return prepaid phones opened within 14 days, the part you left out of your story is how long you waited to return the phone!
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The Verizon phone has only been available for 3 days. He's no way near the 14 day limit. Love the attitude.
szymgio said:
I like to have choice.
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Cool story, brah. Nonetheless, I guess you missed the fact that he bought this for his girlfriend who is under contract with Verizon which is a CDMA carrier. You can't buy a GSM phone and use it on a CDMA carrier. The only time one would need a SIM card slot is if you're using it on Sprint or Verizon's LTE network and since this phone doesn't have LTE....
Thanks for the responses guys! I'll try the unlock method later tonight when I have the phone in hand again (girlfriend still has it at the moment).
As for the return policy, I agree with y'all. I probably should be able to take it back, but the lady at the counter seemed like she might have been new or something. I actually tried to take it back about 4 hours later, so way within the 14 day window mentioned earlier.
On a side note, I won't be using the phone either way as I just went ahead and bought a like-new GS3 from a friend that she is going to use (wish I would have known he was selling it PRIOR to all this). If I can use it as a tablet, I'll just let her kid have it, but if not, I'll try and take it back again.
Will keep everyone posted!
keep us posted guy, I might take you up on that offer.
Good luck.
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sicembaylor said:
Cool story, brah. Nonetheless, I guess you missed the fact that he bought this for his girlfriend who is under contract with Verizon which is a CDMA carrier. You can't buy a GSM phone and use it on a CDMA carrier. The only time one would need a SIM card slot is if you're using it on Sprint or Verizon's LTE network and since this phone doesn't have LTE....
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Can you use this phone with other CDMA carrier?
So I can buy one at best buy at 99 usd and use or not? No need anything like an active line or anything else?
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Lay295 said:
You can bypass the activation easily, simply hit next 1 time, pull down the notification center, click on the multitasking button and swipe away the activation screen quickly, and boom! You have a $100 iPod touch alternative (which is why I bought it) I recorded a short video to show you, wiped it real quick because I just got it yesterday anyways
Code:
youtu.be/qhphsyRFEy4
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Alejandrissimo said:
So I can buy one at best buy at 99 usd and use or not? No need anything like an active line or anything else?
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read post above. I my self haven't bought one yet. buy looks like we can
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Alejandrissimo said:
So I can buy one at best buy at 99 usd and use or not? No need anything like an active line or anything else?
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Correct. After being told they didn't have any at my local store I was happy to inform them that they had 8 of them in stock which was very easy to find out online, and a little arguing about whether or not they could sell it yet, as well as a call to their Verizon rep, I finally was able to procure a Moto G without activating it. Hoping to find out this will work immediately with PagePlus.
Good news everyone, I was able to bypass the activation screen and unlock the phone for "tablet" use (using the methods mentioned in this thread). After playing with the phone for a little while, I gotta say, I actually like the thing! While we won't be using this as a phone, I will probably keep it to use as a MP3 player for the house.
I played around with the features a little and the only real disappointment that I saw was the camera. Maybe I'm use to the 13MP on the GS4, but the picture quality just didn't seem very good. Better than my girlfriend's old iPhone 4, but lacking nonetheless.
Willieumm said:
Correct. After being told they didn't have any at my local store I was happy to inform them that they had 8 of them in stock which was very easy to find out online, and a little arguing about whether or not they could sell it yet, as well as a call to their Verizon rep, I finally was able to procure a Moto G without activating it. Hoping to find out this will work immediately with PagePlus.
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Let me know how that works out. I tried and the pageplus rep said that the phone was unable to work, and it needed to be 'unlocked.' I wonder if I just got someone who didn't know what to do.
I returned my Verizon prepaid moto g today to BB. I did not have any issues. They did check to see if it had been activated. They turned the phone on and seeing the activate wizard appear turned it off. They only thing I didn't get back was the $0.70 for a 911 fee.
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