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Verizon Wireless opens network to "Any Apps, Any Device" in 2008

http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/...opens-network-to-any-apps-any-device-in-2008/
By the end of 2008, Verizon Wireless will open their network to any device which meets a "minimum technical standard." What that standard is, exactly, VZW isn't saying yet -- that will come in "early 2008." So any device (including applications) tested and certified in VZW's new $20 Million test lab is fair game for use on their wireless network. In other words, Verizon becomes the data pipe, and nothing more for these new "bring-your-own" customers. It's too early to say if this is a watershed moment or not. Verizon certainly thinks so with Lowell McAdam, Verizon Wireless president and chief executive officer, calling it, "a transformation point in the 20-year history of mass market wireless devices." As usual, the devil (certification fees, turnaround times for testing, those magical minimum technical standards, etc.) might be in the details.
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http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/prnewswire/NYTU03927112007-1.htm
My. God. The improbable will happen.

i gues they are already starting this...
this is straight from the verizon web site
​Can I use an existing phone with Verizon Wireless service?
We can activate your existing phone provided it is compatible with our CDMA (Code Division Multiple Access) digital network.
Although a wireless phone may be compatible with our network, we cannot guarantee the equipment's performance nor can we honor the manufacturer's warranty on wireless phones not purchased through Verizon Wireless or its authorized agents.
If you are not sure if your handset is compatible, please call our Verizon Wireless Sales Department at 1.800.2.JOIN.IN (1.800.256.4646), or visit one of our Verizon Wireless stores.
If your handset is not compatible with our network, discounts are available on new equipment at the point of sale with a new activation.

So basically all they are saying is if you have Sprint or Alltel, you can come join VZW? I'll pass, they charge too much for data, and Sprint's is faster somehow, but VZW has better call quality.

PIFFMASTER said:
VZW has better call quality.
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everyone told me that when i switched from vzw to sprint, but i havent notice a difference

Do they still require 2 years contracts? Will they offer a plan that match Sprint Sero?

thecalip said:
Will they offer a plan that match Sprint Sero?
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That is the funniest thing I've heard in a long time.
The short answer is probably not. VZW has a history of disabling inherent functions of devices just to require an additional fee to use them (ie., GPS, internet sharing, etc.)

does anyone know the sprint hero price without contract?

I'm looking to upgrade from my dream to the hero.
The phone from Sprint is 180 w/ contract.
I want to get the phone and unlock it.
Does anyone know how much the phone Withought the contract is?
Thanks in advance

Sprint is a CDMA network. It doesn't use SIM card, and the user data is stored on the phone. You cannot use it on other networks.
So getting it without contract is just... without contract. You need to be on Sprint's network for it to work.

well looks like im switching to sprint lol
sorry for my ignorance

tsekh501 said:
Sprint is a CDMA network. It doesn't use SIM card, and the user data is stored on the phone. You cannot use it on other networks.
So getting it without contract is just... without contract. You need to be on Sprint's network for it to work.
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Ummmm.... JUst cause it's a CDMA network, doesn't limit it to Sprint. It can be unlocked & flased to Metro PCS, US Cellular, Page Plus, Virgin, Verizion and numerous other local or regional CDMA networks. Just need to have the know-how.

$599
Bestbuy`s going to charge $599 to buy it out right. http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9509784&type=product&id=1218120547637

JBachman said:
Ummmm.... JUst cause it's a CDMA network, doesn't limit it to Sprint. It can be unlocked & flased to Metro PCS, US Cellular, Page Plus, Virgin, Verizion and numerous other local or regional CDMA networks. Just need to have the know-how.
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Theoretically you can swap the radio chip inside and add a sim card slot too add GSM support too. I don't want to waste time arguing with you on that, but if you do know how to unlock a Sprint CDMA phone to use on Verizon yourself, congrats, you can make big bucks with that knowledge.
BTW, to those who are considering getting onto Sprint for the Hero, note that Sprint's network cannot do voice and data simultaneously, so if you are downloading stuff, you won't be able to receive. It's like the GPRS problem on GSM network, it's just that current Sprint network faces that problem even on 3G.

tsekh501 said:
Theoretically you can swap the radio chip inside and add a sim card slot too add GSM support too. I don't want to waste time arguing with you on that, but if you do know how to unlock a Sprint CDMA phone to use on Verizon yourself, congrats, you can make big bucks with that knowledge.
BTW, to those who are considering getting onto Sprint for the Hero, note that Sprint's network cannot do voice and data simultaneously, so if you are downloading stuff, you won't be able to receive. It's like the GPRS problem on GSM network, it's just that current Sprint network faces that problem even on 3G.
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that's not true, if you are downloading something and someone calls the download stops and the call is recieved. atleast that is how it has worked with my touch pro, vogue, and titan.

pknyo said:
Bestbuy`s going to charge $599 to buy it out right. http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9509784&type=product&id=1218120547637
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Yah I'm just going to add a line, cancel my current line with the Palm Pre and good enough. Gotta love Google Voice.
Figure I can maybe sell my Pre for the cost of the ETF. Although there isn't much demand for them for obvious reasons.

JBachman said:
Ummmm.... JUst cause it's a CDMA network, doesn't limit it to Sprint. It can be unlocked & flased to Metro PCS, US Cellular, Page Plus, Virgin, Verizion and numerous other local or regional CDMA networks. Just need to have the know-how.
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As I understand, CDMA networks need to register the ESN of your device to their network, but most CDMA networks (at least Sprint and Verizon) no longer allow the registration of ESNs that were originally registered to other networks. Apparently Verizon used to allow 3rd party ESNs, but no longer do this, but I cannot find any "official" confirmation of this.
i.e. if you have a Sprint phone, it will have a Sprint ESN and Verizon would refuse to add this to their database.
I believe there are methods to clone another ESN onto a new phone, but I've no idea how "legal" this is.
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
As I understand, CDMA networks need to register the ESN of your device to their network, but most CDMA networks (at least Sprint and Verizon) no longer allow the registration of ESNs that were originally registered to other networks. Apparently Verizon used to allow 3rd party ESNs, but no longer do this, but I cannot find any "official" confirmation of this.
i.e. if you have a Sprint phone, it will have a Sprint ESN and Verizon would refuse to add this to their database.
I believe there are methods to clone another ESN onto a new phone, but I've no idea how "legal" this is.
Regards,
Dave
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I never made mention of the legalities of the process.... I was just stating that it can be done. I do it for Metro phones all the time. I also "heard" it is possible to unlock unlimited data for smartphones on Metro as well.....

tsekh501 said:
BTW, to those who are considering getting onto Sprint for the Hero, note that Sprint's network cannot do voice and data simultaneously, so if you are downloading stuff, you won't be able to receive. It's like the GPRS problem on GSM network, it's just that current Sprint network faces that problem even on 3G.
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A lot of people don't care about that, so stop trying to pee on Sprint and claim it's raining. Geez... If i'm Youtube(ing) and a call comes in, fine, i take the call, finish the call and then continue what i was doing.

pknyo said:
Bestbuy`s going to charge $599 to buy it out right. http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9509784&type=product&id=1218120547637
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This is BestBuy's modus operandi..which is charging more (lots more) than even Sprint's MSRP. So if one is considering buying at full price without contact, go to Sprint directly. The flip side is that they usually have better new/upgrade-contract prices than Sprint since BestBuy doesn't do mail-in-rebates, they make it instant.
Some folks on spintusers.com are claiming $429.99 Sprint full price.

LordLugard said:
This is BestBuy's modus operandi..which is charging more (lots more) than even Sprint's MSRP. So if one is considering buying at full price without contact, go to Sprint directly. The flip side is that they usually have better new/upgrade-contract prices than Sprint since BestBuy doesn't do mail-in-rebates, they make it instant.
Some folks on spintusers.com are claiming $429.99 Sprint full price.
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Yes, Sprint is charging $429.99 full retail. At least according to their own website.
http://www.sprint.com/hero (read the fine print)
And why the F is Best Buy charging so damn much??!! That is just rediculous! Doesn't best buy do price matching?? Couldn't I go into a store and say hey, sprint is only charging 429.99, hook me up?

.........$429.99.........

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Would EVO 4G work on the Boost Mobile Network

Yes no maybe?
it'll be sweet if we could buy an unlocked EVO 4G and run it on the boost network! Don't care for 4G at this point in time anyway

no evo will not work on boost mobile
and boost is owned by sprint they wouldnt activate a evo for boost

I think a better question would be WHY would you want to activate it on the Boost network? That's like buying a Ferrari and putting four spares on it.

Xenithflare said:
I think a better question would be WHY would you want to activate it on the Boost network? That's like buying a Ferrari and putting four spares on it.
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lol.. More like buying a Ferrari and taking a v12 out and putting a v6 in it.

funny replies, but i dont think you guys understand what the op means, i personally have the touch pro 2 with 3g working perfectly fine with boost mobile, its more like a hack that a techie did for me, basically works on the sprint network and everything BUT the monthly payments go out to boost, pretty neat.
now im anxious to know if it would be possible with the evo as well, im positive that it may be done, ill try and ask the tech that helped me out with the touch pro.
and off topic the ferrari replies reminded me of this sports car : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaQB_tgS7f0

Yes you can the evo is a cdma phone the only thing you need to do is to go online to boostmobile.com and change the esn # but the only thing is that you much cdma account with boost

walex365 said:
Yes you can the evo is a cdma phone the only thing you need to do is to go online to boostmobile.com and change the esn # but the only thing is that you much cdma account with boost
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can you give more information on this please

yes you can and in florida there are many people who can get your current esn added to boost meaning you wouldn't have to change it and even have 3g working with full features.

Yet another thread on getting your evos on boost. Here's the deal for those of you who don't know. The process to get an evo working on boost mobile invloves cloning esn's. And it doesn't matter if it's your own esn or not - the FCC sees this as a federal offense, and nobody on XDA should assist with this in any way. This isn't the same as breaking your contract with sprint - this is a government entity you're going up against. Will they catch you? Who knows, but you've just gone on record as wanting to commit a federal offence in a public forum - and one of the posters above just admited to doing it twice already. Good luck with that.
This is what the FCC has to say about it;
Fraud
Cellular fraud is defined as the unauthorized use, tampering, or manipulation of a cellular phone or service. Cellular industry estimates indicate that carriers lose millions per year to cellular fraud, with the principal cause being subscription fraud. Subscriber fraud occurs when a subscriber signs up for service with fraudulently obtained customer information or false identification.
In the past, cloning of cellular phones was a major concern. A cloned cellular telephone is one that has been reprogrammed to transmit the electronic serial number (ESN) and telephone number (MIN) belonging to another (legitimate) cellular telephone. Unscrupulous persons obtain valid ESN/MIN combinations by illegally monitoring the transmissions from the cellular telephones of legitimate subscribers. Each cellular telephone is supposed to have a unique factory-set ESN. After cloning, however, because both cellular telephones have the same ESN/MIN combination, cellular systems cannot distinguish the cloned cellular telephone from the legitimate one.
The Commission considers any knowing use of cellular telephone with an altered ESN to be a violation of the Communications Act (Section 301) and alteration of the ESN in a cellular telephone to be assisting in such violation. The Wireless Telephone Protection Act (Public Law 105-172) was signed into law on April 24, 1998, expanding the prior law to criminalize the use, possession, manufacture or sale of cloning hardware or software. The cellular equipment manufacturing industry has deployed authentication systems that have proven to be a very effective countermeasure to cloning. Authentication supplements the use of the ESN and MIN with a changing encrypted code that can not be obtained by off-the-air monitoring.

fachadick said:
Yet another thread on getting your evos on boost. Here's the deal for those of you who don't know. The process to get an evo working on boost mobile invloves cloning esn's. And it doesn't matter if it's your own esn or not - the FCC sees this as a federal offense, and nobody on XDA should assist with this in any way. This isn't the same as breaking your contract with sprint - this is a government entity you're going up against. Will they catch you? Who knows, but you've just gone on record as wanting to commit a federal offence in a public forum - and one of the posters above just admited to doing it twice already. Good luck with that.
This is what the FCC has to say about it;
Fraud
Cellular fraud is defined as the unauthorized use, tampering, or manipulation of a cellular phone or service. Cellular industry estimates indicate that carriers lose millions per year to cellular fraud, with the principal cause being subscription fraud. Subscriber fraud occurs when a subscriber signs up for service with fraudulently obtained customer information or false identification.
In the past, cloning of cellular phones was a major concern. A cloned cellular telephone is one that has been reprogrammed to transmit the electronic serial number (ESN) and telephone number (MIN) belonging to another (legitimate) cellular telephone. Unscrupulous persons obtain valid ESN/MIN combinations by illegally monitoring the transmissions from the cellular telephones of legitimate subscribers. Each cellular telephone is supposed to have a unique factory-set ESN. After cloning, however, because both cellular telephones have the same ESN/MIN combination, cellular systems cannot distinguish the cloned cellular telephone from the legitimate one.
The Commission considers any knowing use of cellular telephone with an altered ESN to be a violation of the Communications Act (Section 301) and alteration of the ESN in a cellular telephone to be assisting in such violation. The Wireless Telephone Protection Act (Public Law 105-172) was signed into law on April 24, 1998, expanding the prior law to criminalize the use, possession, manufacture or sale of cloning hardware or software. The cellular equipment manufacturing industry has deployed authentication systems that have proven to be a very effective countermeasure to cloning. Authentication supplements the use of the ESN and MIN with a changing encrypted code that can not be obtained by off-the-air monitoring.
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Not true, you do not need to clone the ESN. All you have to do is call up Boost Mobile, tell them you have a phone u need activated, and hope your ESN is accepted by the network. Sometimes the Boost Rep will notice right away that it is not a Boost phone and deny you. Other times, the reps do not seem to care and try it. There is nothing illegal, why is there so much internet police on this site!?! I currently have the EVO on Sprint, though I have had the TP, TP2 on Boost, without cloning or without taking it to anyone. I simply called like I stated before.
Some phones work, others do not. Once unactivated from Boost, I was able to put the TP2, with a clean ESN, back on the Sprint network.
**I HAVE SEEN THE EVO ON THE BOOST NETWORK, WITHOUT ANY CLONING, "FLASHING", OR TECHWORK DONE TO IT.**
It is not a crime of any sort. You do not break any contracts with Sprint. Simply go buy an EVO outright from Sprint, or Ebay. Then the phone is yours, you can do whatever you want with it. Cloning is illegal, though you do not need to clone it.

BIGDINOG said:
Not true, you do not need to clone the ESN. All you have to do is call up Boost Mobile, tell them you have a phone u need activated, and hope your ESN is accepted by the network. Sometimes the Boost Rep will notice right away that it is not a Boost phone and deny you. Other times, the reps do not seem to care and try it. There is nothing illegal, why is there so much internet police on this site!?! I currently have the EVO on Sprint, though I have had the TP, TP2 on Boost, without cloning or without taking it to anyone. I simply called like I stated before.
Some phones work, others do not. Once unactivated from Boost, I was able to put the TP2, with a clean ESN, back on the Sprint network.
**I HAVE SEEN THE EVO ON THE BOOST NETWORK, WITHOUT ANY CLONING, "FLASHING", OR TECHWORK DONE TO IT.**
It is not a crime of any sort. You do not break any contracts with Sprint. Simply go buy an EVO outright from Sprint, or Ebay. Then the phone is yours, you can do whatever you want with it. Cloning is illegal, though you do not need to clone it.
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If this is true, forgive me, I was mistaken. I was led to believe that the only way to get your evo on boost was to clone the esn - so that Boost thinks you have one of their phones, and your phone comes up in their system as one of their phones, but the esn is that of the evo. I didn't realize that you could just call them up and tell them that you have an evo, and here's the esn, and you would like it activated, and they would do it. Not trying to be police, just trying to preserve the integrity of XDA, and possibly keep some folks from commiting a crime they weren't aware of. And breaking your contract with Sprint isn't illegal at all - I was referring to what the FCC considers cellular fraud - defined by them as "the unauthorized use, tampering, or manipulation of a cellular phone or service" If boost thinks you have one of their samsung seeks (for example), but the esn they have on record for you is that of your evo, it's pretty clear cut.
Edit - if it's just a matter of calling boost though, why do all of the instrustions involve "hacks" either to the phone or Boost's systems?

I was on the Boost network for over 3 years. I only switched to Sprint to get the EVO and because I am on a Employee discount plan.
You can not call up Boost and say, I have an EVO here is my ESN. I guess that might be unethical, but thats debateable. You simple do not tell them what kind of phone it is. Once you have established service with Boost, with one of their own phones. A person might call up, tell the Boost CR that their old phone broke, and that they acquired a replacement phone. Simply tell then the ESN number, they will type it in, some CRs will notice its a Sprint phone and send you on your way without adding it, others will not and they will add it. Some phones will work, others will not, I do not know why.
As to why the hacking and such, I think there are people out there looking to make a buck. Some people will pay anywhere between 50-100 to get this done. I did it myself by simply calling. My phone was never cloned, nor did the ESN go bad. Like I said, I was able to put my TP2 back to Sprint when I switched back. I originally bought the TP2 off ebay with a clean ESN.
* About the hack or Boost systems, well I would guess, there might be a few rogue Boost CRs who do this on the side for a fee. Therefore, implying there are hacks that need to be done in order to charge.

BIGDINOG said:
I was on the Boost network for over 3 years. I only switched to Sprint to get the EVO and because I am on a Employee discount plan.
You can not call up Boost and say, I have an EVO here is my ESN. I guess that might be unethical, but thats debateable. You simple do not tell them what kind of phone it is. Once you have established service with Boost, with one of their own phones. A person might call up, tell the Boost CR that their old phone broke, and that they acquired a replacement phone. Simply tell then the ESN number, they will type it in, some CRs will notice its a Sprint phone and send you on your way without adding it, others will not and they will add it. Some phones will work, others will not, I do not know why.
As to why the hacking and such, I think there are people out there looking to make a buck. Some people will pay anywhere between 50-100 to get this done. I did it myself by simply calling. My phone was never cloned, nor did the ESN go bad. Like I said, I was able to put my TP2 back to Sprint when I switched back. I originally bought the TP2 off ebay with a clean ESN.
* About the hack or Boost systems, well I would guess, there might be a few rogue Boost CRs who do this on the side for a fee. Therefore, implying there are hacks that need to be done in order to charge.
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Thanks for clarifying - if you just called up and gave them your esn and they activated it, that's different then what most people are doing when they try and get their evos on boost. With all of the hacking and tweaking that goes on around here, most people aren't aware that there's a point where hacking and tweaking (and gaming the system) actually breaks laws, and in this case it's a federal crime.

guys i would like to know one thing
if i js called them up and got my esn in their database somehow and what if later they figure out that its not boost phone..?
whats the worst they can do to me ?....can they take legal action against me ?

techspark said:
guys i would like to know one thing
if i js called them up and got my esn in their database somehow and what if later they figure out that its not boost phone..?
whats the worst they can do to me ?....can they take legal action against me ?
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I highly doubt it, and I also doubt they would call the feds. I recall reading a post on Howardforums speculating they would just boot the esn off and close the account, but I don't believe it's happened yet. There's a lot of info over there on HF that will answer many Q's relating to sprint phones on boost.
As stated above, don't tell them what type of phone it is, play dumb and say it's the one w/ a keyboard. Just be polite and take no for an answer. Then try again. The calls are recorded, they can't knowingly activate non-boost phones, but a lot of the sprint past phones' esns are accepted. I'm suprised an Evo's esn was even accepted into the boost system. I believe that sprint silently allows esns from their past phones onto the boost plans to keep ppl from going to one of the many other $40-60 plans out there, I've had two sprint BB's on by calling CS.

Alot of what you guys said is quite true. I am not sure where most of you are located but in my area with certain phones you can just go to your local boost mobile shop and someone there will flash it for you. Especially if its a flea market or something. Now I had a blackberry that I tried to put on Boost and they knew right away since BB ESN for Sprint started differently for BB's for Boost.
Also in reality from what I have read the service difference is only a matter of permissions. You can tweak your cellphones permission to let the tower think you have a higher permission than per say a Boost line. Basically they share towers and a Sprint customer will be in line to use that tower before a Boost customer. I know people with EVo's TP's and BB's on Boost and MetroPCS so hey to each his own.

you can't activate an evo on boost because the ESN's are not allowed, just like they are not allowed on sprint SERO.
you can clone the esn, and that is the only way. sprint seperates their esn's from boost like they do SERO accounts. if you are able to activate an evo over the phone, then the esn is more than likely cloned before you bought the phone to another boost phone.
i have an evo on boost. and no, 4g won't work.

why is this guy even active in this forum for???

jason.scorned said:
I highly doubt it, and I also doubt they would call the feds. I recall reading a post on Howardforums speculating they would just boot the esn off and close the account, but I don't believe it's happened yet. There's a lot of info over there on HF that will answer many Q's relating to sprint phones on boost.
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Thanx...hope whatever u said is 100% correct..and ya checked some threads over HF but couldnt find something very specific to what i was looking for
i take it as its legally fine for now..(anybody with a different viewpoint?)....i would prefer spending 20 bucks more a month rather than tweaking stuff that is not legally accepted

Check your local craigslist, you will probably find one or two EVO on Boost sales... No need to do the dirty work if it's already been done by someone else... Just kidding!!! You do have to clone the EVO and no, boost won't activate an EVO. Also, remember that the law can be interpreted in many ways. You can be the owner of both devices, you bought both devices, but you can't tamper with the serial numbers. So yeah, you need an insider and somehow get the serial number off the EVO on the Boost whitelist, good luck with that...

Flash Evo to Verizon?

I apologize if this has been covered, I didn't find anything in a quick search. A buddy was asking about flashing his Evo to Verizon. I saw a few youtube videos showing results but haven't found a process.
Sent from my SCH-I500 using XDA Premium App

Sim unlock? You could call Verizon customer care or a store and ask if nobody on here knows, I assume it would work but have never heard of anyone doing it.

I dont think so.
You can have your evo run off of verizon's towers with a prl hack
swyped from my cyanogenized and gingerbreaded EVO

There's no legal way to do it.
You would have to fake your esn number and such.

phatmanxxl said:
Sim unlock? You could call Verizon customer care or a store and ask if nobody on here knows, I assume it would work but have never heard of anyone doing it.
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Both vzw and sprint use CDMA... no simcards involved.
To OP: No, verizon requires the ESN to be already present on their database (same way as sprint) before activating the device.

The process is likely the same as it is to get the evo to work on boost, cricket, or other cdma providers.
I haven't done this personally, nor do I know anyone who has, but in theory, it seems like it should.

gpz1100 said:
The process is likely the same as it is to get the evo to work on boost, cricket, or other cdma providers.
I haven't done this personally, nor do I know anyone who has, but in theory, it seems like it should.
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Boost is owned by Sprint so it makes some sense that you could cross those phones.
Not sure about cricket but it's my guess that they don't lock down their esns.
The only way I've ever heard of using a Sprint/Verizon phone on either network is with esn spoofing and it's not legal, at all.

Until carriers allow other phones ont heir networks it's a no-go. Except as said above by changing ESN (illegal) or having one hell of an inside connection. The ESN would have to be added to their database of accepted devices. Like I said...a hell of an inside connection would be needed.

You said it bro! Spoof was the word I was looking for. Will require a donor phone though on the network you want to use it on.

KB112 said:
Until carriers allow other phones ont heir networks it's a no-go. Except as said above by changing ESN (illegal) or having one hell of an inside connection. The ESN would have to be added to their database of accepted devices. Like I said...a hell of an inside connection would be needed.
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It's not illegal to change your ESN as long as you are paying for the fees. The legality comes in when you try to clone ESN in order to avoid fees.
But even if OP were to clone the ESN, the frequency's don't really match and would have problems working

And if this was remotely feasible, I'd have a Verizon iPhone 4 on Sprint right now.

Hrshycro said:
And if this was remotely feasible, I'd have a Verizon iPhone 4 on Sprint right now.
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Your a Joke

iitreatedii said:
Your a Joke
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You're the one with an iPad 2 and always talking about it!

And we have once again proven that we can, AND WILL, turn any thread into an argument/personal attack within the first page of the thread. Good job, guys! :thmsup:

tejasrichard said:
And we have once again proven that we can, AND WILL, turn any thread into an argument/personal attack within the first page of the thread. Good job, guys! :thmsup:
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Its kinda the culture of XDA.
And to be completely honest its encouraged by the rules, or lack there of.

Illegal to Clone or Swap ESN on any Mobile Device!

The only 2 mobile companies our computer store will not flash a mobile device to is Boost or Virgin Mobile. Many other companies have argued this decision and the reasons are now posted for all to see. I've been trying to get clear answers but correct me if I'm wrong please.
The law stated since April 24th 1998 it is ILEGAL to alter any FACTORY SET ESN for any reason whatsoever clearly stated under Communications Act (Section 301). Therefore, unless that ruling changes, we do not support flashing any mobile device to Boost Mobile or Virgin Mobile by Swaping ESNs as that violates that ruling. Please consider supporting companies that welcome consumers to make their own choices in mobile devices such as Simple Mobile and Page Plus. While Simple Mobile offers unlimited service as low as 40 per month on T-Mobiles Towers, Page Plus is more spendy but no-contract as well and has the power of Verizon's Network. Just get a good programmer in your area.
Please download attachments. The links below are more resources:
http://androidforums.com/lg-optimus-v/409186-flash-boost-mobile.html
http://forum.iphone-developers.com/general-iphone/1171-iphone-4-cdma-boost-mobile.html
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433566
http://info.sen.ca.gov/pub/97-98/bill/asm/ab_1101-1150/ab_1127_bill_19970703_amended_sen.html
http://law.onecle.com/uscode/18/1029.html
http://www.tiaonline.org/standards/numbering-resources/electronic-serial-numbers-esn-and-meid

OK?
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http://www.fcc.gov/guides/cell-phone-fraud
As long as you do not have 2 devices on the same ESN.
It is not against the law.
However, it might be pretty soon.
It was just big national headlines within the last few months that they are tossing around legislation, its in the same stuff as the stolen device list info.