Yes no maybe?
it'll be sweet if we could buy an unlocked EVO 4G and run it on the boost network! Don't care for 4G at this point in time anyway
no evo will not work on boost mobile
and boost is owned by sprint they wouldnt activate a evo for boost
I think a better question would be WHY would you want to activate it on the Boost network? That's like buying a Ferrari and putting four spares on it.
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I think a better question would be WHY would you want to activate it on the Boost network? That's like buying a Ferrari and putting four spares on it.
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lol.. More like buying a Ferrari and taking a v12 out and putting a v6 in it.
funny replies, but i dont think you guys understand what the op means, i personally have the touch pro 2 with 3g working perfectly fine with boost mobile, its more like a hack that a techie did for me, basically works on the sprint network and everything BUT the monthly payments go out to boost, pretty neat.
now im anxious to know if it would be possible with the evo as well, im positive that it may be done, ill try and ask the tech that helped me out with the touch pro.
and off topic the ferrari replies reminded me of this sports car : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaQB_tgS7f0
Yes you can the evo is a cdma phone the only thing you need to do is to go online to boostmobile.com and change the esn # but the only thing is that you much cdma account with boost
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Yes you can the evo is a cdma phone the only thing you need to do is to go online to boostmobile.com and change the esn # but the only thing is that you much cdma account with boost
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can you give more information on this please
yes you can and in florida there are many people who can get your current esn added to boost meaning you wouldn't have to change it and even have 3g working with full features.
Yet another thread on getting your evos on boost. Here's the deal for those of you who don't know. The process to get an evo working on boost mobile invloves cloning esn's. And it doesn't matter if it's your own esn or not - the FCC sees this as a federal offense, and nobody on XDA should assist with this in any way. This isn't the same as breaking your contract with sprint - this is a government entity you're going up against. Will they catch you? Who knows, but you've just gone on record as wanting to commit a federal offence in a public forum - and one of the posters above just admited to doing it twice already. Good luck with that.
This is what the FCC has to say about it;
Fraud
Cellular fraud is defined as the unauthorized use, tampering, or manipulation of a cellular phone or service. Cellular industry estimates indicate that carriers lose millions per year to cellular fraud, with the principal cause being subscription fraud. Subscriber fraud occurs when a subscriber signs up for service with fraudulently obtained customer information or false identification.
In the past, cloning of cellular phones was a major concern. A cloned cellular telephone is one that has been reprogrammed to transmit the electronic serial number (ESN) and telephone number (MIN) belonging to another (legitimate) cellular telephone. Unscrupulous persons obtain valid ESN/MIN combinations by illegally monitoring the transmissions from the cellular telephones of legitimate subscribers. Each cellular telephone is supposed to have a unique factory-set ESN. After cloning, however, because both cellular telephones have the same ESN/MIN combination, cellular systems cannot distinguish the cloned cellular telephone from the legitimate one.
The Commission considers any knowing use of cellular telephone with an altered ESN to be a violation of the Communications Act (Section 301) and alteration of the ESN in a cellular telephone to be assisting in such violation. The Wireless Telephone Protection Act (Public Law 105-172) was signed into law on April 24, 1998, expanding the prior law to criminalize the use, possession, manufacture or sale of cloning hardware or software. The cellular equipment manufacturing industry has deployed authentication systems that have proven to be a very effective countermeasure to cloning. Authentication supplements the use of the ESN and MIN with a changing encrypted code that can not be obtained by off-the-air monitoring.
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Yet another thread on getting your evos on boost. Here's the deal for those of you who don't know. The process to get an evo working on boost mobile invloves cloning esn's. And it doesn't matter if it's your own esn or not - the FCC sees this as a federal offense, and nobody on XDA should assist with this in any way. This isn't the same as breaking your contract with sprint - this is a government entity you're going up against. Will they catch you? Who knows, but you've just gone on record as wanting to commit a federal offence in a public forum - and one of the posters above just admited to doing it twice already. Good luck with that.
This is what the FCC has to say about it;
Fraud
Cellular fraud is defined as the unauthorized use, tampering, or manipulation of a cellular phone or service. Cellular industry estimates indicate that carriers lose millions per year to cellular fraud, with the principal cause being subscription fraud. Subscriber fraud occurs when a subscriber signs up for service with fraudulently obtained customer information or false identification.
In the past, cloning of cellular phones was a major concern. A cloned cellular telephone is one that has been reprogrammed to transmit the electronic serial number (ESN) and telephone number (MIN) belonging to another (legitimate) cellular telephone. Unscrupulous persons obtain valid ESN/MIN combinations by illegally monitoring the transmissions from the cellular telephones of legitimate subscribers. Each cellular telephone is supposed to have a unique factory-set ESN. After cloning, however, because both cellular telephones have the same ESN/MIN combination, cellular systems cannot distinguish the cloned cellular telephone from the legitimate one.
The Commission considers any knowing use of cellular telephone with an altered ESN to be a violation of the Communications Act (Section 301) and alteration of the ESN in a cellular telephone to be assisting in such violation. The Wireless Telephone Protection Act (Public Law 105-172) was signed into law on April 24, 1998, expanding the prior law to criminalize the use, possession, manufacture or sale of cloning hardware or software. The cellular equipment manufacturing industry has deployed authentication systems that have proven to be a very effective countermeasure to cloning. Authentication supplements the use of the ESN and MIN with a changing encrypted code that can not be obtained by off-the-air monitoring.
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Not true, you do not need to clone the ESN. All you have to do is call up Boost Mobile, tell them you have a phone u need activated, and hope your ESN is accepted by the network. Sometimes the Boost Rep will notice right away that it is not a Boost phone and deny you. Other times, the reps do not seem to care and try it. There is nothing illegal, why is there so much internet police on this site!?! I currently have the EVO on Sprint, though I have had the TP, TP2 on Boost, without cloning or without taking it to anyone. I simply called like I stated before.
Some phones work, others do not. Once unactivated from Boost, I was able to put the TP2, with a clean ESN, back on the Sprint network.
**I HAVE SEEN THE EVO ON THE BOOST NETWORK, WITHOUT ANY CLONING, "FLASHING", OR TECHWORK DONE TO IT.**
It is not a crime of any sort. You do not break any contracts with Sprint. Simply go buy an EVO outright from Sprint, or Ebay. Then the phone is yours, you can do whatever you want with it. Cloning is illegal, though you do not need to clone it.
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Not true, you do not need to clone the ESN. All you have to do is call up Boost Mobile, tell them you have a phone u need activated, and hope your ESN is accepted by the network. Sometimes the Boost Rep will notice right away that it is not a Boost phone and deny you. Other times, the reps do not seem to care and try it. There is nothing illegal, why is there so much internet police on this site!?! I currently have the EVO on Sprint, though I have had the TP, TP2 on Boost, without cloning or without taking it to anyone. I simply called like I stated before.
Some phones work, others do not. Once unactivated from Boost, I was able to put the TP2, with a clean ESN, back on the Sprint network.
**I HAVE SEEN THE EVO ON THE BOOST NETWORK, WITHOUT ANY CLONING, "FLASHING", OR TECHWORK DONE TO IT.**
It is not a crime of any sort. You do not break any contracts with Sprint. Simply go buy an EVO outright from Sprint, or Ebay. Then the phone is yours, you can do whatever you want with it. Cloning is illegal, though you do not need to clone it.
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If this is true, forgive me, I was mistaken. I was led to believe that the only way to get your evo on boost was to clone the esn - so that Boost thinks you have one of their phones, and your phone comes up in their system as one of their phones, but the esn is that of the evo. I didn't realize that you could just call them up and tell them that you have an evo, and here's the esn, and you would like it activated, and they would do it. Not trying to be police, just trying to preserve the integrity of XDA, and possibly keep some folks from commiting a crime they weren't aware of. And breaking your contract with Sprint isn't illegal at all - I was referring to what the FCC considers cellular fraud - defined by them as "the unauthorized use, tampering, or manipulation of a cellular phone or service" If boost thinks you have one of their samsung seeks (for example), but the esn they have on record for you is that of your evo, it's pretty clear cut.
Edit - if it's just a matter of calling boost though, why do all of the instrustions involve "hacks" either to the phone or Boost's systems?
I was on the Boost network for over 3 years. I only switched to Sprint to get the EVO and because I am on a Employee discount plan.
You can not call up Boost and say, I have an EVO here is my ESN. I guess that might be unethical, but thats debateable. You simple do not tell them what kind of phone it is. Once you have established service with Boost, with one of their own phones. A person might call up, tell the Boost CR that their old phone broke, and that they acquired a replacement phone. Simply tell then the ESN number, they will type it in, some CRs will notice its a Sprint phone and send you on your way without adding it, others will not and they will add it. Some phones will work, others will not, I do not know why.
As to why the hacking and such, I think there are people out there looking to make a buck. Some people will pay anywhere between 50-100 to get this done. I did it myself by simply calling. My phone was never cloned, nor did the ESN go bad. Like I said, I was able to put my TP2 back to Sprint when I switched back. I originally bought the TP2 off ebay with a clean ESN.
* About the hack or Boost systems, well I would guess, there might be a few rogue Boost CRs who do this on the side for a fee. Therefore, implying there are hacks that need to be done in order to charge.
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I was on the Boost network for over 3 years. I only switched to Sprint to get the EVO and because I am on a Employee discount plan.
You can not call up Boost and say, I have an EVO here is my ESN. I guess that might be unethical, but thats debateable. You simple do not tell them what kind of phone it is. Once you have established service with Boost, with one of their own phones. A person might call up, tell the Boost CR that their old phone broke, and that they acquired a replacement phone. Simply tell then the ESN number, they will type it in, some CRs will notice its a Sprint phone and send you on your way without adding it, others will not and they will add it. Some phones will work, others will not, I do not know why.
As to why the hacking and such, I think there are people out there looking to make a buck. Some people will pay anywhere between 50-100 to get this done. I did it myself by simply calling. My phone was never cloned, nor did the ESN go bad. Like I said, I was able to put my TP2 back to Sprint when I switched back. I originally bought the TP2 off ebay with a clean ESN.
* About the hack or Boost systems, well I would guess, there might be a few rogue Boost CRs who do this on the side for a fee. Therefore, implying there are hacks that need to be done in order to charge.
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Thanks for clarifying - if you just called up and gave them your esn and they activated it, that's different then what most people are doing when they try and get their evos on boost. With all of the hacking and tweaking that goes on around here, most people aren't aware that there's a point where hacking and tweaking (and gaming the system) actually breaks laws, and in this case it's a federal crime.
guys i would like to know one thing
if i js called them up and got my esn in their database somehow and what if later they figure out that its not boost phone..?
whats the worst they can do to me ?....can they take legal action against me ?
techspark said:
guys i would like to know one thing
if i js called them up and got my esn in their database somehow and what if later they figure out that its not boost phone..?
whats the worst they can do to me ?....can they take legal action against me ?
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I highly doubt it, and I also doubt they would call the feds. I recall reading a post on Howardforums speculating they would just boot the esn off and close the account, but I don't believe it's happened yet. There's a lot of info over there on HF that will answer many Q's relating to sprint phones on boost.
As stated above, don't tell them what type of phone it is, play dumb and say it's the one w/ a keyboard. Just be polite and take no for an answer. Then try again. The calls are recorded, they can't knowingly activate non-boost phones, but a lot of the sprint past phones' esns are accepted. I'm suprised an Evo's esn was even accepted into the boost system. I believe that sprint silently allows esns from their past phones onto the boost plans to keep ppl from going to one of the many other $40-60 plans out there, I've had two sprint BB's on by calling CS.
Alot of what you guys said is quite true. I am not sure where most of you are located but in my area with certain phones you can just go to your local boost mobile shop and someone there will flash it for you. Especially if its a flea market or something. Now I had a blackberry that I tried to put on Boost and they knew right away since BB ESN for Sprint started differently for BB's for Boost.
Also in reality from what I have read the service difference is only a matter of permissions. You can tweak your cellphones permission to let the tower think you have a higher permission than per say a Boost line. Basically they share towers and a Sprint customer will be in line to use that tower before a Boost customer. I know people with EVo's TP's and BB's on Boost and MetroPCS so hey to each his own.
you can't activate an evo on boost because the ESN's are not allowed, just like they are not allowed on sprint SERO.
you can clone the esn, and that is the only way. sprint seperates their esn's from boost like they do SERO accounts. if you are able to activate an evo over the phone, then the esn is more than likely cloned before you bought the phone to another boost phone.
i have an evo on boost. and no, 4g won't work.
why is this guy even active in this forum for???
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I highly doubt it, and I also doubt they would call the feds. I recall reading a post on Howardforums speculating they would just boot the esn off and close the account, but I don't believe it's happened yet. There's a lot of info over there on HF that will answer many Q's relating to sprint phones on boost.
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Thanx...hope whatever u said is 100% correct..and ya checked some threads over HF but couldnt find something very specific to what i was looking for
i take it as its legally fine for now..(anybody with a different viewpoint?)....i would prefer spending 20 bucks more a month rather than tweaking stuff that is not legally accepted
Check your local craigslist, you will probably find one or two EVO on Boost sales... No need to do the dirty work if it's already been done by someone else... Just kidding!!! You do have to clone the EVO and no, boost won't activate an EVO. Also, remember that the law can be interpreted in many ways. You can be the owner of both devices, you bought both devices, but you can't tamper with the serial numbers. So yeah, you need an insider and somehow get the serial number off the EVO on the Boost whitelist, good luck with that...
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I'm looking to upgrade from my dream to the hero.
The phone from Sprint is 180 w/ contract.
I want to get the phone and unlock it.
Does anyone know how much the phone Withought the contract is?
Thanks in advance
Sprint is a CDMA network. It doesn't use SIM card, and the user data is stored on the phone. You cannot use it on other networks.
So getting it without contract is just... without contract. You need to be on Sprint's network for it to work.
well looks like im switching to sprint lol
sorry for my ignorance
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Sprint is a CDMA network. It doesn't use SIM card, and the user data is stored on the phone. You cannot use it on other networks.
So getting it without contract is just... without contract. You need to be on Sprint's network for it to work.
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Ummmm.... JUst cause it's a CDMA network, doesn't limit it to Sprint. It can be unlocked & flased to Metro PCS, US Cellular, Page Plus, Virgin, Verizion and numerous other local or regional CDMA networks. Just need to have the know-how.
$599
Bestbuy`s going to charge $599 to buy it out right. http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9509784&type=product&id=1218120547637
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Ummmm.... JUst cause it's a CDMA network, doesn't limit it to Sprint. It can be unlocked & flased to Metro PCS, US Cellular, Page Plus, Virgin, Verizion and numerous other local or regional CDMA networks. Just need to have the know-how.
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Theoretically you can swap the radio chip inside and add a sim card slot too add GSM support too. I don't want to waste time arguing with you on that, but if you do know how to unlock a Sprint CDMA phone to use on Verizon yourself, congrats, you can make big bucks with that knowledge.
BTW, to those who are considering getting onto Sprint for the Hero, note that Sprint's network cannot do voice and data simultaneously, so if you are downloading stuff, you won't be able to receive. It's like the GPRS problem on GSM network, it's just that current Sprint network faces that problem even on 3G.
tsekh501 said:
Theoretically you can swap the radio chip inside and add a sim card slot too add GSM support too. I don't want to waste time arguing with you on that, but if you do know how to unlock a Sprint CDMA phone to use on Verizon yourself, congrats, you can make big bucks with that knowledge.
BTW, to those who are considering getting onto Sprint for the Hero, note that Sprint's network cannot do voice and data simultaneously, so if you are downloading stuff, you won't be able to receive. It's like the GPRS problem on GSM network, it's just that current Sprint network faces that problem even on 3G.
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that's not true, if you are downloading something and someone calls the download stops and the call is recieved. atleast that is how it has worked with my touch pro, vogue, and titan.
pknyo said:
Bestbuy`s going to charge $599 to buy it out right. http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9509784&type=product&id=1218120547637
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Yah I'm just going to add a line, cancel my current line with the Palm Pre and good enough. Gotta love Google Voice.
Figure I can maybe sell my Pre for the cost of the ETF. Although there isn't much demand for them for obvious reasons.
JBachman said:
Ummmm.... JUst cause it's a CDMA network, doesn't limit it to Sprint. It can be unlocked & flased to Metro PCS, US Cellular, Page Plus, Virgin, Verizion and numerous other local or regional CDMA networks. Just need to have the know-how.
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As I understand, CDMA networks need to register the ESN of your device to their network, but most CDMA networks (at least Sprint and Verizon) no longer allow the registration of ESNs that were originally registered to other networks. Apparently Verizon used to allow 3rd party ESNs, but no longer do this, but I cannot find any "official" confirmation of this.
i.e. if you have a Sprint phone, it will have a Sprint ESN and Verizon would refuse to add this to their database.
I believe there are methods to clone another ESN onto a new phone, but I've no idea how "legal" this is.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
As I understand, CDMA networks need to register the ESN of your device to their network, but most CDMA networks (at least Sprint and Verizon) no longer allow the registration of ESNs that were originally registered to other networks. Apparently Verizon used to allow 3rd party ESNs, but no longer do this, but I cannot find any "official" confirmation of this.
i.e. if you have a Sprint phone, it will have a Sprint ESN and Verizon would refuse to add this to their database.
I believe there are methods to clone another ESN onto a new phone, but I've no idea how "legal" this is.
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Dave
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I never made mention of the legalities of the process.... I was just stating that it can be done. I do it for Metro phones all the time. I also "heard" it is possible to unlock unlimited data for smartphones on Metro as well.....
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BTW, to those who are considering getting onto Sprint for the Hero, note that Sprint's network cannot do voice and data simultaneously, so if you are downloading stuff, you won't be able to receive. It's like the GPRS problem on GSM network, it's just that current Sprint network faces that problem even on 3G.
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A lot of people don't care about that, so stop trying to pee on Sprint and claim it's raining. Geez... If i'm Youtube(ing) and a call comes in, fine, i take the call, finish the call and then continue what i was doing.
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Bestbuy`s going to charge $599 to buy it out right. http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9509784&type=product&id=1218120547637
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This is BestBuy's modus operandi..which is charging more (lots more) than even Sprint's MSRP. So if one is considering buying at full price without contact, go to Sprint directly. The flip side is that they usually have better new/upgrade-contract prices than Sprint since BestBuy doesn't do mail-in-rebates, they make it instant.
Some folks on spintusers.com are claiming $429.99 Sprint full price.
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This is BestBuy's modus operandi..which is charging more (lots more) than even Sprint's MSRP. So if one is considering buying at full price without contact, go to Sprint directly. The flip side is that they usually have better new/upgrade-contract prices than Sprint since BestBuy doesn't do mail-in-rebates, they make it instant.
Some folks on spintusers.com are claiming $429.99 Sprint full price.
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Yes, Sprint is charging $429.99 full retail. At least according to their own website.
http://www.sprint.com/hero (read the fine print)
And why the F is Best Buy charging so damn much??!! That is just rediculous! Doesn't best buy do price matching?? Couldn't I go into a store and say hey, sprint is only charging 429.99, hook me up?
.........$429.99.........
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Hi I am wondering if I can activate a sprint hero on a vzw network and if so would they force me to get a dataplan. I really would like and android phone but don't want a dataplan. I am near wifi most of the time. I thought about cloning esns with the new eris but since it would be to avoid fees I think it would land me in some trouble.
What do you guys think? I thought about the vx6900 but no wifi and the bluetooth doesn't work in their build.
Thanks,
Isaac.S
why not just get the eris ....its the same thing as the hero but with out sprints crapware on it???
I don't think they would allow the handset to be activated. Plus, you'd have to start a sprint contract, cancel it, get charged for the device in order to get the thing in the first place.
As 702 said, just get an Eris, it's the same device and meant for VZW. Personally, I don't see why you would want to pay the much higher plan costs for VZW anyway.
Well I wouldn't mind switching but friends are all on verizon and it has the best coverage where I am. I would be purchasing a full price device from sprint to activate on verizon and selling my upgrade device ie droid or eris. What I am trying to avoid is shelling out an additional 30 a month for data.
Having a phone that relies so much on the internet might be kind of pointless without a data plan.
Also, with Sprint's "any mobile" it won't cost you a cent (or minutes) to call them Sprint to VZW. Nor will it cost you if they call you.
The device cost thing isn't a hurdle if you can afford it, which you seem to be able to.
The big hurdle is getting VZW to add the MEID to their database and allowing the handset onto the network. I don't think they will from prior attempts of my own.
thanks for the meid info ekinnee. I thought I had heard that verizon is pretty good about adding devices but maybe I was wrong about that.
Thanks,
Isaac.S
isaacws said:
thanks for the meid info ekinnee. I thought I had heard that verizon is pretty good about adding devices but maybe I was wrong about that.
Thanks,
Isaac.S
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Some are, some aren't...you're kindof at the mercy of whatever store reps you get (Verizon has a big thing a while back about being willing to put any device on their network). Best bet is to ask the VZ Rep.
EDIT: I do believe they will still force you into a dataplan. The store I went to used to do datablocks and they claimed they couldn't (either through technology or policy) do that on newer smartphones. Just about every provider requires a data plan for smartphones these days.
In my opinion, as like many of the others that posted here, I would just get it on Sprint. With Sprint, you now get unlimited free calling to ANY cell phone, even if it is on Sprint, Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile, US Cellular, you name it. Also, I have a feeling eventually someone is going to come out with a way to enable "Roaming Only" in the Hero... which basically means if you enable it, you will ALWAYS be using Verizon's service instead of Sprint. Also, Sprint is cheaper, so I'd just go with Sprint if I were you.
So I stopped by a friends house a couple of weeks ago and noticed he had a new phone... a Hero to be exact and since he noticed I had one also he asked if I could fix it to allow him on the market and sync with his google account.
So I checked the phone out and right away I noticed the phone was not stock and asked him where he got it... he replied Nextel. So I was really confused as this was the branded cdma sprint Hero and then checked the software and lo and behold I noticed then that the phone was rooted and had the Fresh rom installed....
long story short he's not a tech guy at all and didn't even understand what rooted or roms were and swore that nextel had hooked the phone up for him and told him they had todo some "specail" stuff to it to get it to work on there service... the gmail account was something like nextel1212121 at gmail and he had no password for it and no dataplan.
Is this legal for them todo? I just told him he needed to get the gmail pw from nextel or have them resetup to phone with his gmail account.
really hes going to want to use his own gmail account. just do a wipe and configure it with his info.
i thought sprint owned nextel?
Sounds like whoever did that was trying to rip him off or something by getting his mail sent to their account.
this is really simple to answer actually. He bought his hero at a Nextel phone retailer that profits from prepaid and low income account setups. Since they are the middle man between the customer and the wireless company the hero has been rooted and provisioned to work on nextel's wireless service. The fact that the gmail was setup with that account is just a way to test the functionality of the phone to make sure it works correctly on Nextel's network. I wouldnt be suprised that that nextel gmail address is used over and over again to test out android phones from sprint and verizon that get provisioned to nextel wireless. This behaviour happens quite often with cricket wireless as they do the same thing with ex sprint and verizon phones that have been ****listed and tied to accounts with an outstanding balance basically rendering thier ESN worthless on the wireless account they are tied to. Cricket/Nextel/MetroPcs/etc.. is the asshole of the phone world, eventually all phones who are owned by people who dont pay thier bills get provisioned to those companies who offer ****ty services that barely work at extremely low prices. Its basically phone hell.
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this is really simple to answer actually. He bought his hero at a Nextel phone retailer that profits from prepaid and low income account setups. Since they are the middle man between the customer and the wireless company the hero has been rooted and provisioned to work on nextel's wireless service. The fact that the gmail was setup with that account is just a way to test the functionality of the phone to make sure it works correctly on Nextel's network. I wouldnt be suprised that that nextel gmail address is used over and over again to test out android phones from sprint and verizon that get provisioned to nextel wireless. This behaviour happens quite often with cricket wireless as they do the same thing with ex sprint and verizon phones that have been ****listed and tied to accounts with an outstanding balance basically rendering thier ESN worthless on the wireless account they are tied to. Cricket/Nextel/MetroPcs/etc.. is the asshole of the phone world, eventually all phones who are owned by people who dont pay thier bills get provisioned to those companies who offer ****ty services that barely work at extremely low prices. Its basically phone hell.
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That makes so much sense.
WHAT!?!?!?!
Powers16 said:
this is really simple to answer actually. He bought his hero at a Nextel phone retailer that profits from prepaid and low income account setups. Since they are the middle man between the customer and the wireless company the hero has been rooted and provisioned to work on nextel's wireless service. The fact that the gmail was setup with that account is just a way to test the functionality of the phone to make sure it works correctly on Nextel's network. I wouldnt be suprised that that nextel gmail address is used over and over again to test out android phones from sprint and verizon that get provisioned to nextel wireless. This behaviour happens quite often with cricket wireless as they do the same thing with ex sprint and verizon phones that have been ****listed and tied to accounts with an outstanding balance basically rendering thier ESN worthless on the wireless account they are tied to. Cricket/Nextel/MetroPcs/etc.. is the asshole of the phone world, eventually all phones who are owned by people who dont pay thier bills get provisioned to those companies who offer ****ty services that barely work at extremely low prices. Its basically phone hell.
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This has got to be the worst post I have ever read. There is no possible way that the Hero is running on Nextel. Sounds to me like a third party dealer sold him a used phone. Probably a salesperson got the EVO and sold his/her Hero. The Sprint Hero is CDMA only and will only function on a CDMA network. The Nextel network is iDen which is SIM based, owned by Sprint and in no way falls into the Cricket/Metro/etc. set of companies you are talking about. There is a slim possibility to get the Hero onto Boost now that they have access to Sprint's CDMA network, but with the hoops that a customer would have to jump through to do it, I can't think of a dealer that would do it for a customer. The payout on Boost is so low, it wouldn't be worth it.
So, in short, from reading your post, you have no idea what you are talking about.
HelgesenJ said:
This has got to be the worst post I have ever read. There is no possible way that the Hero is running on Nextel. Sounds to me like a third party deal sold him a used phone. Probably a salesperson got the EVO and sold his/her Hero. The Sprint Hero is CDMA only and will only function on a CDMA network. Nextel is iDen and SIM based and in no way falls into the Cricket/Metro/etc. set of companies you are talking about. There is a slim possiblity to get the Hero onto Boost now that they have access to Sprint's CDMA network, but the hoops that a customer would have to jump through to do it, I can't think of a dealer that would do it for a customer. The payout on Boost is so low, it wouldn't be worth it.
So, in short, from reading your post, you have no idea what you are talking about.
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This. Tell him to return it and get on a real sprint plan, with a new phone. It sounds like he got ripped off.
HelgesenJ said:
This has got to be the worst post I have ever read. There is no possible way that the Hero is running on Nextel. Sounds to me like a third party dealer sold him a used phone. Probably a salesperson got the EVO and sold his/her Hero. The Sprint Hero is CDMA only and will only function on a CDMA network. The Nextel network is iDen which is SIM based, owned by Sprint and in no way falls into the Cricket/Metro/etc. set of companies you are talking about. There is a slim possibility to get the Hero onto Boost now that they have access to Sprint's CDMA network, but with the hoops that a customer would have to jump through to do it, I can't think of a dealer that would do it for a customer. The payout on Boost is so low, it wouldn't be worth it.
So, in short, from reading your post, you have no idea what you are talking about.
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In short i provided more information to the question than your ****ty response did. you wanna 1 up me, then do it right, dont be an asshole.
@OP:
If your friends has a device that isn't stock HTC or stock carrier, have him/her return it and obtain one that is. If the device was not intended to function on the network in question, it's likely that there will be no warranty coverage.
Thread closed.
I'll pay someone $100 to get my Evo running on Boost Mobile pay as you go plan. I'd need at least calls, web, and GPS fully working. You be able to use a remote desktop connection to access my computer/phone.
Please no more bounty threads. All they do is create chaos and confusion. If you do a little searching, you'll see that someone already posted a solution here yesterday.
First it was the $10 fee, then trying to root 2.2. Now the latest flood of threads deal with "I'll pay someone to do this..."
bludragon742 said:
Please no more bounty threads. All they do is create chaos and confusion. If you do a little searching, you'll see that someone already posted a solution here yesterday.
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As far as I'm aware, no one has posted a solution to using this on Boost Mobile. I've seen for MetroPCS, but not Boost Mobile.
Solution: Go to boost mobile store and ask them yo activate your phone on their network.
Sent from my HTC EVO 4G.
davebu said:
Solution: Go to boost mobile store and ask them yo activate your phone on their network.
Sent from my HTC EVO 4G.
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I wish it was that simple, they won't do it.
There have been three threads posted this week on this very topic. The answer was given in this post.
Emrys_90 said:
As far as I'm aware, no one has posted a solution to using this on Boost Mobile. I've seen for MetroPCS, but not Boost Mobile.
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There have been three threads posted this week on this very topic. The answer was given in this post.
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That's not a valid method, for one it has not been tested for the Evo. The other reason it's not valid is because it tells you to sign up at the Sprint website. You do not handle Boost Mobile accounts through Sprint's website.
Found a guy on Craigslist that can make the hero and touch pro 2 work on boost mobile he charges $25 I don't see why would this be so impossible to do.
Sent from 2.2 Evo 4G
ek9manr said:
Found a guy on Craigslist that can make the hero and touch pro 2 work on boost mobile he charges $25 I don't see why would this be so impossible to do.
Sent from 2.2 Evo 4G
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Can you post a link to the ad, please?
Emrys_90 said:
That's not a valid method, for one it has not been tested for the Evo. The other reason it's not valid is because it tells you to sign up at the Sprint website. You do not handle Boost Mobile accounts through Sprint's website.
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You can't say it's an invalid method just because you don't understand how it works. Sprint owns Boost, and because Boost phones use Sprint's network, Sprint has all Boost phone esn's in it's database.
However, with that being said, I've done some more research and it looks like only phones that work on "legacy plans" can be ported to Boost. That means all new phones that require the "Everything Whatever" plans cannot be switched to a "legacy" plan, as all Boost services are considered "legacy" by the Sprint database. This is hard coded into the system and new esn's will automatically be rejected.
It looks like the only way to get your EVO on Boost is by cloning the esn of a Boost CDMA phone. You probably won't get much help here for that because it's illegal.
CL add link in atlanta
http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/mob/2062427507.html
Here are people that can do it for you i still want a way to do it myself though.
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Here are people that can do it for you i still want a way to do it myself though.
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Way to bring a thread that's been dead for three months back to life, so I'll just leave this here in hopes that we won't see anymore of these "help me get my evo working on boost mobile" threads.
The process to get an evo working on boost mobile invloves cloning esn's. And it doesn't matter if it's your own esn or not - the FCC sees this as a federal offense, and nobody on XDA should assist with this in any way.
This is what the FCC has to say about it;
Fraud
Cellular fraud is defined as the unauthorized use, tampering, or manipulation of a cellular phone or service. Cellular industry estimates indicate that carriers lose millions per year to cellular fraud, with the principal cause being subscription fraud. Subscriber fraud occurs when a subscriber signs up for service with fraudulently obtained customer information or false identification.
In the past, cloning of cellular phones was a major concern. A cloned cellular telephone is one that has been reprogrammed to transmit the electronic serial number (ESN) and telephone number (MIN) belonging to another (legitimate) cellular telephone. Unscrupulous persons obtain valid ESN/MIN combinations by illegally monitoring the transmissions from the cellular telephones of legitimate subscribers. Each cellular telephone is supposed to have a unique factory-set ESN. After cloning, however, because both cellular telephones have the same ESN/MIN combination, cellular systems cannot distinguish the cloned cellular telephone from the legitimate one.
The Commission considers any knowing use of cellular telephone with an altered ESN to be a violation of the Communications Act (Section 301) and alteration of the ESN in a cellular telephone to be assisting in such violation. The Wireless Telephone Protection Act (Public Law 105-172) was signed into law on April 24, 1998, expanding the prior law to criminalize the use, possession, manufacture or sale of cloning hardware or software. The cellular equipment manufacturing industry has deployed authentication systems that have proven to be a very effective countermeasure to cloning. Authentication supplements the use of the ESN and MIN with a changing encrypted code that can not be obtained by off-the-air monitoring.
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Even though you OWN both phones (donor and EVO) you are still breaking the law cloning. I would just take the EVO to Cricket or MetroPCS which allows the device without braking the law...
Will it be possible to put the Epic on boost mobile like many have done the Touch pro 2 and some droid phones.
*Boost mobile is CDMA* non walkie talkie
*Boost Mobile is IDEN* with walkie talkie
I'd imagine that ESN swapping makes anything possible..
never done that before is that easy and how could i do that
It's illegal...
WHY is it illegal? whats the actuall reason why its Illegal?
It's an FCC violation to tamper with serial numbers. You're committing fraud.
Ok understood is there any other way that i could the epic 4g to work on boost
why? you that broke that you cant afford a monthly bill, but can afford the phone?
I CAN afford sprints everything data plan as well as i can afford Sprints simply unlimited plas as well as to purchase the phone out of contract i just dont like to be in contract and i prefer to pay $50 over $100 a month.
Ma$etas said:
I CAN afford sprints everything data plan as well as i can afford Sprints simply unlimited plas as well as to purchase the phone out of contract i just dont like to be in contract and i prefer to pay $50 over $100 a month.
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but for 50 dollars less, its a smaller network with no coverage.
Either way, no, it won't happen.
not true i have had great reception wherever i go the few times i have had no sprint service my phone goes into verizon service all that for $50 less on tp2
entropism said:
It's an FCC violation to tamper with serial numbers. You're committing fraud.
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Tampering with serial numbers is illegal, but not taking the phone to another carrier. Thanks to the FCC you can take any phone to any compatible network. If IPhone was CDMA sprint would have to let you put it on. They may fight you and they don't have to support the phone, but they have to let you use it. This has been talked about tons of time on XDA. Search it. Boost will probably have no problems. Just no support for the phone.
a454nova said:
Tampering with serial numbers is illegal, but not taking the phone to another carrier. Thanks to the FCC you can take any phone to any compatible network. If IPhone was CDMA sprint would have to let you put it on. They may fight you and they don't have to support the phone, but they have to let you use it. This has been talked about tons of time on XDA. Search it. Boost will probably have no problems. Just no support for the phone.
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how would i be able to make boost accept the epic on their system and in regards to support who cares if they dont support it thats why we have xda
Ma$etas said:
how would i be able to make boost accept the epic on their system and in regards to support who cares if they dont support it thats why we have xda
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Well one reason you care if they support it or not is because of issues you can potentially run into that can't be helped. I know someone who works for Criket who talks about people who bring phones from other carrier onto their plan, and how some people might not be able to send or receive, txts or calls or what not and the carrier can't support it at all. I guess if enough people put the epic on boost and it was a phone software thing that could be modified to make boost and the phone play nice then you'd have no issues, and of course it all depends, many phones will be just fine on other carriers, but there is the risk. Luckily since boost mobile is sprint, this hopefully is a nonissue and I'm just being silly.
First off, Sprint WILL NOT activate a non-sprint phone on their network. Simply will not happen, just like Verizon (who used to if you found an easy-going rep) will not. Since Boost IS Sprint, it just won't happen.
Secondly, the reason Sprint won't let you activate the phones on the Boost plan is because those devices are tied to specific plans that Sprint offers. There's a reason NOBODY has gotten an EVO, Instinct, Pre, Pixi, Hero, Moment, Bold, Tour, etc on Boost or Virgin without tampering with the ESNs, and it's the same reason why the Epic won't be on there either. The only Sprint phones you can activate on Boost are the non "everything plan required" phones, and you'll never see a non-Sprint, non-Boost phone on there.
I'm fairly certain you can use it on Cricket or MetroPCS, if that's useful. No promises that it'll work perfectly, but it'll likely work to some degree.
JUST2SUAVE said:
why? you that broke that you cant afford a monthly bill, but can afford the phone?
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Cost of the phone is trivial compared to the plan.
I'm not going to start anything. Just google Evo on boost and it will probably lead to the same with the epic. But... There is always a way.
Ive read all sms mms and 3G works on EVO. No 4G. So I'd bet on the Epic too.
a454nova said:
I'm not going to start anything. Just google Evo on boost and it will probably lead to the same with the epic. But... There is always a way.
Ive read all sms mms and 3G works on EVO. No 4G. So I'd bet on the Epic too.
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im going to do that maybe after or week or two of the phones releas. I know someone is gonna be able to do it. were there is a will theres a way! LoL. im perfectly fine with only 3g besides there isnt any 4g speeds where i live so it wont make any difference to me. i dont want to be stuck in a contract or have a plan with any limitations. oh and $100 a month for everything unlimited yeah right not gonna happen.
can it be done now? Epic on boost anyone care to share how too
i know its possible just want to know how