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Nextel and Hermes

Does Any Knows If A Nextel Sim Works In a Hermes ??
Or Any Know How To Make It Work??
In Advance Thx

Uh, can we say totally different radio technology?

its the Titan that u need, not the hermes

Sprint Mogul is what you are lookin for. You might wanna do a little research on phone technologies and the various radio technologies that all the companies use. cdma/gsm/iden

But the Mogul is CDMA No Gsm and the Nextel Sim Works With the GPRS Etc Etc

gprs is something else and nextel is IDEN

Are Sprint data plans compatible with 8525 ?
I'm a newbie when it comes to wireless technologies, so I apologize if this is a silly question -
Since this thread is about Hermes/8525 and Nextel, which is related to Sprint, I thought this question might belong in this thread:
is there any chance that an unlocked 8525 could work with Sprint PCS Vision data plan? I'm asking because Sprint's data plans are really inexpensive compared to AT&T's (I'd rather not go with AT&T anyway).
If Sprint + 8525 combination does not work, what other options are for providers of data plans besides AT&T?
Thanks a lot for any ideas.

rajamoppie said:
I'm a newbie when it comes to wireless technologies, so I apologize if this is a silly question -
Since this thread is about Hermes/8525 and Nextel, which is related to Sprint, I thought this question might belong in this thread:
is there any chance that an unlocked 8525 could work with Sprint PCS Vision data plan? I'm asking because Sprint's data plans are really inexpensive compared to AT&T's (I'd rather not go with AT&T anyway).
If Sprint + 8525 combination does not work, what other options are for providers of data plans besides AT&T?
Thanks a lot for any ideas.
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Actually, Sprint's technology is NOT related to Nextel. They are 2 COMPLETELY different Radio types. The confusion comes into play because Sprint bought out Nextel 2 years ago (which, by the way, is when Nextel went to hell... but that's another story). Nextel uses Motorola's IDEN radio technology which was the original (and still the best) Push-to-talk type. Sprint uses CDMA radio technology (Same as Verizon) these have identifiers LOCKED to the individual phones themselves and are NOT compatible with ATT/TMobile/Other GSM networks.
Nextel and ATT/TMobile/Other GSM carriers may both use SIM cards but rely on independent technologies.
Recap:
Nextel/Boost/AMP = IDEN
Sprint/Verizon = CDMA
ATT/T-Mobile = GSM
There are NO radio types that are intercompatible.
Assuming that you are in the States, then the only other real option is T-Mobile.

Thanks for the detailed explanation. So I think I'll go with AT&T after all and get a refurbished Samsung Sync with 3G SIM and Media Max for $20 online, then put the SIM into the 8525 once I have it unlocked (hopefully this weekend). Let me know if you see any issues with that.
Thanks a lot again.

First u have to spit all over the part of the SIM with the gold colored stuff, then lick the battery terminals and touch them against ur nextel sim. the last step is to insert it into the phone. if that fails then place the phone on the ground with the slide open and urinate on it while u hum the national anthem(USAOnly).
if that fails then call ur carrier and tell them the steps you took so they can mail u a warranty exchange device.
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many users have reported that carriers like ATT will give you with up to a month of free services if u tell them the promotion code below and that u can use ATT media net instead of the pda plan to get unlimited tethering. tell them that you let at least 10 other friends(with their phone #s) in on the deal and they will give u 3 months of free medianet!
the coupon code for that is
"i$crwDUaTt07"

spiritofseth said:
First u have to spit all over the part of the SIM with the gold colored stuff, then lick the battery terminals and touch them against ur nextel sim. the last step is to insert it into the phone. if that fails then place the phone on the ground with the slide open and urinate on it while u hum the national anthem(USAOnly).
if that fails then call ur carrier and tell them the steps you took so they can mail u a warranty exchange device.
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many users have reported that carriers like ATT will give you with up to a month of free services if u tell them the promotion code below and that u can use ATT media net instead of the pda plan to get unlimited tethering. tell them that you let at least 10 other friends(with their phone #s) in on the deal and they will give u 3 months of free medianet!
the coupon code for that is
"i$crwDUaTt07"
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Man, were really don't need this crap here....

Sprint hero on VZW

Hi I am wondering if I can activate a sprint hero on a vzw network and if so would they force me to get a dataplan. I really would like and android phone but don't want a dataplan. I am near wifi most of the time. I thought about cloning esns with the new eris but since it would be to avoid fees I think it would land me in some trouble.
What do you guys think? I thought about the vx6900 but no wifi and the bluetooth doesn't work in their build.
Thanks,
Isaac.S

why not just get the eris ....its the same thing as the hero but with out sprints crapware on it???

I don't think they would allow the handset to be activated. Plus, you'd have to start a sprint contract, cancel it, get charged for the device in order to get the thing in the first place.
As 702 said, just get an Eris, it's the same device and meant for VZW. Personally, I don't see why you would want to pay the much higher plan costs for VZW anyway.

Well I wouldn't mind switching but friends are all on verizon and it has the best coverage where I am. I would be purchasing a full price device from sprint to activate on verizon and selling my upgrade device ie droid or eris. What I am trying to avoid is shelling out an additional 30 a month for data.

Having a phone that relies so much on the internet might be kind of pointless without a data plan.
Also, with Sprint's "any mobile" it won't cost you a cent (or minutes) to call them Sprint to VZW. Nor will it cost you if they call you.
The device cost thing isn't a hurdle if you can afford it, which you seem to be able to.
The big hurdle is getting VZW to add the MEID to their database and allowing the handset onto the network. I don't think they will from prior attempts of my own.

thanks for the meid info ekinnee. I thought I had heard that verizon is pretty good about adding devices but maybe I was wrong about that.
Thanks,
Isaac.S

isaacws said:
thanks for the meid info ekinnee. I thought I had heard that verizon is pretty good about adding devices but maybe I was wrong about that.
Thanks,
Isaac.S
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Some are, some aren't...you're kindof at the mercy of whatever store reps you get (Verizon has a big thing a while back about being willing to put any device on their network). Best bet is to ask the VZ Rep.
EDIT: I do believe they will still force you into a dataplan. The store I went to used to do datablocks and they claimed they couldn't (either through technology or policy) do that on newer smartphones. Just about every provider requires a data plan for smartphones these days.

In my opinion, as like many of the others that posted here, I would just get it on Sprint. With Sprint, you now get unlimited free calling to ANY cell phone, even if it is on Sprint, Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile, US Cellular, you name it. Also, I have a feeling eventually someone is going to come out with a way to enable "Roaming Only" in the Hero... which basically means if you enable it, you will ALWAYS be using Verizon's service instead of Sprint. Also, Sprint is cheaper, so I'd just go with Sprint if I were you.

Taking the Sprint Hero to Verizon

I know that Sprint and Verizon both use CDMA for their phones, but does anyone know if I could take my Sprint Hero to Verizon's network and have working coverage?
My sister just bought a Verizon phone and she has full coverage, with 3G, but my Hero frequently says it is roaming.

you can try... probably not gunna be easy to get them to enter that MEID into their system.

sprint doesnt charge extra for roaming UNLESS like, 60% of your calls are roaming, or something like that. In that case, they will actually call you and say "You're roaming too much, you should go to another cell phone provider" (unless the reps in my store are lying to people, lol... I just started working for sprint a couple weeks ago. Lots of people ask about roaming here)

No, Sprint doesn't charge for roaming, but if 60% of your minutes are roaming for 3+ months, they WILL call to discuss terminating your contract. As for Verizon taking on your hero, no, they 99% most likely will not. It's a VERY rare occasion they let a non verizon device on their network.

would be plenty easy to just sell your hero for a decent price and go to Verizon and get the Droid..

boredmug said:
would be plenty easy to just sell your hero for a decent price and go to Verizon and get the Droid..
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eww the droid?! id rather have an Eris. at least its HTC and u can still hang on XDA
HTC 4-life!!!

lol.. i'm not a big motorola fan, but i do like the high resolution screen..

I thought VZW used slightly different bands for EvDO than Sprint? Or maybe I'm just imagining that since AT&T uses different bands... hm.
Seriously, if you have that much of a coverage problem, I'd talk to Sprint about cancelling without an ETF. May have to talk to their retentions department... someone who works for Sprint could shed more light.
(Personally I'd switch to T-Mobile over VZW. Cheaper, and you have an international-standard GSM device ;P)

Highly unlikely Verizon will activate it since it is not in their ESN database even though they use the same bands. Sprint won't activate Verizon phones either.

Moe2005 said:
Highly unlikely Verizon will activate it since it is not in their ESN database even though they use the same bands. Sprint won't activate Verizon phones either.
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yup, if the phone doesnt say sprint either on the phone or in the firmware they will not activate it on their network.

Is_907 said:
I thought VZW used slightly different bands for EvDO than Sprint? Or maybe I'm just imagining that since AT&T uses different bands... hm.
Seriously, if you have that much of a coverage problem, I'd talk to Sprint about cancelling without an ETF. May have to talk to their retentions department... someone who works for Sprint could shed more light.
(Personally I'd switch to T-Mobile over VZW. Cheaper, and you have an international-standard GSM device ;P)
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cheaper but they are way behind on there 3g network they're the reason i switched to VZW

brinox said:
yup, if the phone doesnt say sprint either on the phone or in the firmware they will not activate it on their network.
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I used to activate non-vzw phones all the time. However, smartphones may not be handled the same.

pretty sure they'll take it...they started their "any app, any device" initiative in 2008

they won't take it. they specifically said they will only activate a phone if it's either unbranded or verizon branded. sprint branding is a no go.

jamezelle said:
cheaper but they are way behind on there 3g network they're the reason i switched to VZW
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Around here they're pretty much the same. Also, I imagine where I am is on the short list for HSPA+ from TMo.
Anyway, this is a tangent heh.

I don't think you can swap phones between the CDMA sprint network and the Verizon CDMA network. Don't they use different parts of the spectrum?

giovannizero said:
I don't think you can swap phones between the CDMA sprint network and the Verizon CDMA network. Don't they use different parts of the spectrum?
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Not sure about the different parts of the spectrum, but you can definitely move a phone between Sprint and Verizon (from a technical point of view). But you'll have a hard time getting Sprint to activate a Verizon phone on their network. Not sure about a Sprint phone on a Verizon network, but they did make a big deal about their "any device" announcement in 2008, which said that they would allow you to use any CDMA phone.

1. while talk of changing esn is strickly verbotten(i believe?) if one were to find a htc hero that had somehow become corrupt and the meid had been changed to all 00000000000000000's it would be possible to fix with qxdm (the htc hero is essentially the sprint branded htc droid eris)
2. in order to activate phones on the vzw network generally one would *228 ota a cellphone, however in the ota process a vzw phones SPC is (almost)always 000000 while the hero from sprint has a SPC which is a randomly(?) generated number
3. a proper vzw PRL must be loaded to a phone in order to make calls on the vzw network
4. MDN/MIN SID must be properly programmed in order to make calls on the vzw network
5. at this point you will likely need the assistance of a nice vzw tech, as the phone will 611 to vzw, but will not make calls (afaik this is due to a-key authentication?)
if you get the right person at vzw, ask the right questions(why doesnt my vzw branded phone call?), and you have performed the other steps correctly you should have TALK and TXT within 5 min
note:
-you will still show you are roaming all the time (now ALL the time actually)
-afaik visual voicemail does not work
-if you want data expect to use WIFI or spend a good amount of time studying another VZW handsets various data settings and a good amount of time on VZW support(have not even tried this)
-neither i nor xda are responsible for what you do to your phones and as always anything you do is at your own risk!

Something wierd happended last night. I was trying to install that JIt Dalvik install by following the direction on the gumbo 1.5c. I also attempted to used the mapdroyd app Any event after a reboot I had and when it loaded no signal showed , a damaged SD card sign showed. When attempting to place a call it asked me to dial *228 nothing would result of it . Any event a reformat and install on the OS again fixed. All.Any one know of any reason why that would of happened. I was truly experimenting out of curiosity

I can, and its been done
I would like everyone to know I just spent the last 3 days figuring ALL of this out.
As my understanding is, you can change esn as long as you are and "authorized user" and your not stealing anything, therefore if I have two phones I paid for, and I have service with Verizon (which makes me and authorized user as per their TOS.)
then its not illegal. Anyways, for the sake of education it is possible.
I've swapped out my esn/meid. Transferred all my info via qxdm service programming. uploaded a verizon prl. rooted. and now im looking for a suitable Verizon based rom for the hero... I'm attempting to put a stock 2.1 eris rom on right now. (btw the phone texted and called just fine, I just want to have a complete verizon based rom for the finishing touches)

Can ATT force me into a data plan?

There has been a lot of talk about ATT bull**** N1 people into data plan.
However, if I buy a normal phone from them, 2 years contract with DATA BLOCK.
Insert the sim onto the New Nexus ATT version
Can they force me into a data plan? (I mean, I am not using their data service at all, not trying to cheat them for a $15 data plan vs $30)
So can they still force me?
I hope they don't, but if they do, I am going straight to ABC News and have a field day with the media.

NexusX said:
There has been a lot of talk about ATT bull**** N1 people into data plan.
However, if I buy a normal phone from them, 2 years contract with DATA BLOCK.
Insert the sim onto the New Nexus ATT version
Can they force me into a data plan? (I mean, I am not using their data service at all, not trying to cheat them for a $15 data plan vs $30)
So can they still force me?
I hope they don't, but if they do, I am going straight to ABC News and have a field day with the media.
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no how would they know you have a Nexus ? if you don't tell them ? just swap you phone and it should work fine

shwan_3 said:
no how would they know you have a Nexus ? if you don't tell them ? just swap you phone and it should work fine
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I beg to differ... the IMEI of every phone is different. It identifies the manufacturer, model and other characteristics of the phone (Smartphone or Dumbphone). Based on this information, AT&T has recently sent notifications to "unlocked Smartphone" users telling them that they are required to get a Data Plan. The AT&T support forum is full of folks complaining that they have received this warning and have subsequently been put on data plans. Below is the URL to a typical thread on this issue.
http://forums.wireless.att.com/cng/board/message?board.id=gsmgprs&thread.id=28657

They can see the IMEI of the device on the network. The first 8 digits (the TAC) give the Make/Model info. So, that said, they always know what device you're using.

Yes they can... I have had an iphone since the second month they were out. I purchased an iphone 3g off of craigslist and then a 3gs and just kept moving the Sim card to each phone. Over the last few months I have texts and emails from them saying I have to upgrade my data plan... My contracted ended over a year ago lol.
Was waiting for the supersonic but I just bought this ATT Nexus. will switch the Sim and see how they react. LOL

My plan expired 3 years ago and I move my sim all the time. It so great not to be on a plan. I used a G1 for over a year and an N1 since the first day they came out. I never received any notifications about anything. I do have a PDA plan so maybe that's the difference.

i've got two smart phones(nokia n95 and htc polaris) on att's family data plan for $10 each, and have for over 2 years now. will att change it to the $30 data plan once i get my nexus 1?

Good chance. I'm not going to say 'likely' but, good chance.
If ATT carries the phone - they will likely scan for it on the network at some point. It's just a matter of time.
Folks like mlott who already have an expanded dataplan (not the $10 one) should be fine.

Fake IMEI app in 3...2...

Illegal in 2... 1...
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The Commission considers any knowing use of cellular telephone with an altered ESN to be a violation of the Communications Act (Section 301) and alteration of the ESN in a cellular telephone to be assisting in such violation. The Wireless Telephone Protection Act (Public Law 105-172) was signed into law on April 24, 1998, expanding the prior law to criminalize the use, possession, manufacture or sale of cloning hardware or software
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3. The Mobile Telephones (Re-programming) Act creates a number of offences relating to the electronic identifiers of mobile wireless communications devices. In particular it becomes an offence to reprogramme the unique International Mobile Equipment Identity (IMEI) number which identifies a mobile telephone handset. It is also possible to interfere with the operation of the IMEI by the addition of a small electronic chip to the handset and this too is made illegal.
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So, federally

Yeah I am interested in the hiding your IMEI too. I know this was done on Iphone, but anything on android? given how programmable these Android are, is it possible?
I mean faking MAC address was said to be impossible in the beginning, but now you can do it with a flip of a registry on windows.

I don't know if it's possible, but ring up ATT and ask for the "smartphone exclusion" feature on your line. Apparently, the ATT scanner is honoring that and NOT adding plans to those types of lines.
(Please google for more info before you do this.)

i have the N1 (TMobile version) on ATT right now and i have the smartphone exclusion so i never got one of those texts requiring me to get the data plan (others using the N1 on ATT were getting this texts and were forced to add the $30 plan); also, i recently called ATT and added data block on my line; they still think that i have my older phone (blackberry) as that showed up on their system
but i don't know how they will work on this new N1; also, i want to know if i get the AT&T version, will they take off the Data Block feature from my line

They can probably tell very easily what phone you are on. I called T-Mobile (yea yea, not ATT but still) a few days after I got my N1 on launch day to transfer the insurance or whatever, and when I was talking to the rep, he said "so you are calling from your new Nexus One." I didnt say a word about what phone I was on So if T-Mobile can tell what phone is calling them, I can only imagine ATT can too.
They will likely force you into some sort of data plan.

staulkor said:
They can probably tell very easily what phone you are on. I called T-Mobile (yea yea, not ATT but still) a few days after I got my N1 on launch day to transfer the insurance or whatever, and when I was talking to the rep, he said "so you are calling from your new Nexus One." I didnt say a word about what phone I was on So if T-Mobile can tell what phone is calling them, I can only imagine ATT can too.
They will likely force you into some sort of data plan.
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that may be true, but they can't forced me onto a plan because i have the smartphone exclusion grandfathered into my line and i just added the data block
ATT system doesn't have the TMobile N1 imei; hell, i've been with ATT since 2005 with family plan and they still don't have the right phones for 3 of the numbers in their system

mazzarin said:
Illegal in 2... 1...
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So, federally
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Luckily for us in the United States, IMEI is not ESN. I have not been able to find anything showing that changing IMEI #s is illegal here, and nobody else has been able to show me any either. We don't use IMEIs to blacklist phones like they do in other countries, so it's not illegal to change them. We do use ESNs that way so it is illegal to change those.

I think it really all depends on whether or not Google gave AT&T a file with all the IMEIs for the AT&T band N1s.
I do know that AT&T has no idea what phone I'm using currently (see sig), but knows immediately when I put my sim into a branded phone (tried w/iPhone, HTC Pure & Pantech Matrix Pro). Not only have I confirmed this over the phone, but I've confimed it by logging into my account after putting a sim into a branded phone, and seeing the phone pop up. No such thing happens with my unbranded phone and unbranded phones I've used in the past.

mazzarin said:
I don't know if it's possible, but ring up ATT and ask for the "smartphone exclusion" feature on your line. Apparently, the ATT scanner is honoring that and NOT adding plans to those types of lines.
(Please google for more info before you do this.)
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The smartphone exclusion plan is now being phased out internally. They are no longer authorizing reps to add lines into that category as of two months. I think it have something to do with the Nexus One launch?
This I got as 'news' from an AT&T rep direct.

NexusX said:
not trying to cheat them for a $15 data plan vs $30
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How is this "cheating" them ? They offer unlimited data at 2G speeds and you pay them for it.
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So can they still force me?
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If they want to they can. Not all companies are anti-evil. Cingular is long dead now.

Ok here the way it works, well for me. I'm on the AT&T network, I'm been out of contract for 10 years. In those 10 years I've always used a smart phone.
When I used an AT&T branded smart phone, within the last few months they will automatically place me on a smart phone data plan. When I used none AT&T smart phones, they don’t know what’s going on.
While using the AT&T smart phone I would call and update my IMEI to a Motorola RAZR IMEI, within two hour or so of use it would switch back. I did this several times, each time it would switch back automatically when I started using the smart phone.
If I use a none AT&T smart phone, there was no problems, they accepted the RAZR IMEI never changed it at all.
I’m not smart enough to tell you how they are getting this info from their phones, I thought it was when I connected via HSDPA/HSUPA but I disabled that and there were still able to tell with I used the AT&T phone.
On the legality of them changing your plan if you read their terms of use, it clearly states if you have a Smart Phone, Iphone, or Blackberry you must have a smart phone data plan of $30 & up. Under contract or not, if you use their service you must comply with their terms of use. But this is America, and if people make enough noise about this it may cause them to change their ways. But these terms of use is similar to most of the major carrier if not all.
What do you do?
Use an AT&T phone smart phone and get charged for the smart phone data plan. Make lots of noise with AT&T and see what it gets you, gets us.
Use a NONE AT&T smart phone use the cheap unlimited data plan.
The AT&T phones I tested were the Fuze, Pure, & IPhones 3GS, all had the smart phone plan added even when I provide the IMEI or the RAZR.
The phones I’ve tested from T-Mobile are the Touch Pro2, G1, & Dash 3G, plus countless amounts of none branded AT&T phones I’ve used in the past.
I’m currently using the T-Mobile Touch Pro2, $15 data plan, AT&T recognizes my phone on their site under my account as a RAZR V3.

[Q] Google Nexus 4 MetroPCS compatibility?

I recently was looking to upgrade my phone, which currently is a LG motion (For those of you who care) running metro PCS service.
My question is, does anyone know if MetroPCS service allows for a Google Nexus 4 to run? The phone supposedly (according to threads on the internet) can actually run LTE even though it doesn't claim so. Some say that it's signals and services also can run with metro PCS. I wouldn't mind only having Phone and Text with them, so if the cost of data is necessary that could be arranged.
Thank you all!
(If it does work, more than just myself will be happy to hear

Prophet968 said:
I recently was looking to upgrade my phone, which currently is a LG motion (For those of you who care) running metro PCS service.
My question is, does anyone know if MetroPCS service allows for a Google Nexus 4 to run? The phone supposedly (according to threads on the internet) can actually run LTE even though it doesn't claim so. Some say that it's signals and services also can run with metro PCS. I wouldn't mind only having Phone and Text with them, so if the cost of data is necessary that could be arranged.
Thank you all!
(If it does work, more than just myself will be happy to hear
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MetroPCS is CDMA so it won't work with Nexus 4.

kzoodroid said:
MetroPCS is CDMA so it won't work with Nexus 4.
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Wrong. MetroPCS is now with T-Mobile and they plan to merge the networks together.
@OP: More details here,
We knew this day would come and thanks to a trio of screenshots leaked to the boys at PhoneArena, we know an actual date. Beginning June 12th, MetroPCS customers will have the opportunity to use compatible unlocked GSM phones which include iPhones, Android, Windows Phone and certain feature phones. There’s no telling just how many devices out of the Android lineup Metro customers will be able to choose from, but it’s clear T-Mobile and MetroPCS are moving fast to offer the latter customers with more options. As of June 12th, Metro customers will head to www.metropcs.com/keepyourphone to find which unlocked devices will be available.
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http://www.tmonews.com/2013/06/leak...tropcs-bring-your-own-phone-begins-june-12th/
The possibility of it working is there, but it'd be on T-Mobile network and not MetroPCS but they're one entity now... but since they're one entity I'm sure you could use TMo's network as a MetroPCS customer. Just wait for the official word for more details (June 12th... rumored)

zephiK said:
Wrong. MetroPCS is now with T-Mobile and they plan to merge the networks together.
@OP: More details here,
http://www.tmonews.com/2013/06/leak...tropcs-bring-your-own-phone-begins-june-12th/
The possibility of it working is there, but it'd be on T-Mobile network and not MetroPCS but they're one entity now... but since they're one entity I'm sure you could use TMo's network as a MetroPCS customer. Just wait for the official word for more details (June 12th... rumored)
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MetroPCS is still CDMA so how am I wrong? They have a boat load of CDMA phones out there in customers hands that would need to be traded in. What they more than likely will do is eventually force those MetroPCS customers onto T-Mobile as MetroPCS has no infrastructure, just customers. And just because MetroPCS will be offering T-Mobile devices doesn't mean they will also offer prepaid bring your own phone plans for T-Mobile service. Their business model is to sell you a phone at full price and then you get a no contract month to month service plan. It would be cheaper to just go to T-Mobile and get a no contract plan than to have to buy a T-Mobile phone at MetroPCS, sign up for a plan, and then switch sims over to the Nexus 4.

kzoodroid said:
MetroPCS is still CDMA so how am I wrong? They have a boat load of CDMA phones out there in customers hands that would need to be traded in. What they more than likely will do is eventually force those MetroPCS customers onto T-Mobile as MetroPCS has no infrastructure, just customers. And just because MetroPCS will be offering T-Mobile devices doesn't mean they will also offer prepaid bring your own phone plans for T-Mobile service. Their business model is to sell you a phone at full price and then you get a no contract month to month service plan. It would be cheaper to just go to T-Mobile and get a no contract plan than to have to buy a T-Mobile phone at MetroPCS, sign up for a plan, and then switch sims over to the Nexus 4.
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You're right but I think he was trying to say that the two companies have merged and they are working our connecting their networks to one. MetroPCS customers will have to switch to T-Mobile by 2015. q
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Prophet968 said:
I recently was looking to upgrade my phone, which currently is a LG motion (For those of you who care) running metro PCS service.
My question is, does anyone know if MetroPCS service allows for a Google Nexus 4 to run? The phone supposedly (according to threads on the internet) can actually run LTE even though it doesn't claim so. Some say that it's signals and services also can run with metro PCS. I wouldn't mind only having Phone and Text with them, so if the cost of data is necessary that could be arranged.
Thank you all!
(If it does work, more than just myself will be happy to hear
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kzoodroid said:
MetroPCS is CDMA so it won't work with Nexus 4.
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Wrong. MetroPCS is now with T-Mobile and they plan to merge the networks together.
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Come on man you made the guy seem like he gave a bad answer when you typed in Wrong like that. Hey OP MetroPCS is cdma and we all know that and no you can't bring your phone to MetroPCS to get it turned on but hey when they finish the merger with T-Mobile then maybe the Metro stores (new T-Mobile) will be able to handle that for you. But if you are looking for prepay choices look into Walmarts plan, Simple Mobile and T-Mobiles prepaid since they are all along the line of MetroPCS.
Also dont get caught up in the LTE hype for speeds. If you are lucky enough to live in a HSPA+ area there is nothing wrong with 18 - 25 mbps download. Anything over a constant 5mbps is good enough to stream HD in most cases. Also LTE gonna destroy your battery life... Just my opinion guys

http://www.tmonews.com/2013/06/metr...ogram-opening-up-network-to-t-mobile-devices/
Told you so.
The program supports AT&T and T-Mobile iPhones, and the iPhone 5 from Verizon and Sprint. Also supported are GSM-based Android phones and Windows Phone devices, but not BlackBerry smartphones, or any tablets/mobile hotspots. MetroPCS customers will choose from the company’s current offering of $40/$50/$60 rate plans to use with the devices. In the end, the program is basically a way for T-Mobile devices to activate on the Metro network.
There are some limitations to the bring-your-own-device program including: “MetroPCS does not assume any liability for the lack of effectiveness for non-MetroPCS devices,” the carrier wrote on its website.
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Come on man you made the guy seem like he gave a bad answer when you typed in Wrong like that.
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It is a bad answer though. Its simple, don't reply back unless you really know what you're saying. Either that or just say that there is a possibility of uncertainty.

Yes its compatible the use each others towers that's how T-Mobile has some LTE markets (source is the link in the post above)
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Prophet968 said:
I recently was looking to upgrade my phone, which currently is a LG motion (For those of you who care) running meto PCS service.
My question is, does anyone know if MetroPCS service allows for a Google Nexus 4 to run? The phone supposedly (according to threads on the internet) can actually run LTE even though it doesn't claim so. Some say that it's signals and services also can run with metro PCS. I wouldn't mind only having Phone and Text with them, so if the cost of data is necessary that could be arranged.
Thank you all!
(If it does work, more than just myself will be happy to hear
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Yes you can run metro PCs on nexus 4..now that T-Mobile bought metro u can use it on tmobiles network through metro and it is pretty good. I just activated mine today
Thank me lol

psantos1091 said:
Yes you can run metro PCs on nexus 4..now that T-Mobile bought metro u can use it on tmobiles network through metro and it is pretty good. I just activated mine today
Thank me lol
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Isn't that in certain areas? Or is it possible nationwide?
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pretty sure it will work everywhere
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Isn't that in certain areas? Or is it possible nationwide?
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Go to the MAIN metro store in your local area to do it..on the phone all the reps said no but i just went in to the main dealer in my area and they got it to work..the small stores most likely cant do it because they have to program it for some reason..its not just putting in a sim card like tmobile or att..metro pcs is even taking any unlocked phones from att and of course tmobile (getting my sis an iPhone from eBay because of that)..they are now a hspa+ network so it should work everywhere.. I was actually very surprised they were able to activate it but inside the store they had a notice saying they are changing all their phones to T-Mobile's hspa and to upgrade phones soon. And their price was actually cheaper then the 60$ they advertised for unlimited everything
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kzoodroid said:
MetroPCS is still CDMA so how am I wrong? They have a boat load of CDMA phones out there in customers hands that would need to be traded in. What they more than likely will do is eventually force those MetroPCS customers onto T-Mobile as MetroPCS has no infrastructure, just customers. And just because MetroPCS will be offering T-Mobile devices doesn't mean they will also offer prepaid bring your own phone plans for T-Mobile service. Their business model is to sell you a phone at full price and then you get a no contract month to month service plan. It would be cheaper to just go to T-Mobile and get a no contract plan than to have to buy a T-Mobile phone at MetroPCS, sign up for a plan, and then switch sims over to the Nexus 4.
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Metro is now hspa

MetroPCS merge
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In my area, the update has only just rolled out sometime last month. Go too your MetroPCS store and ask if you can, they should be able to give you an estimate. In my case the update was a substantial improvement too speed making the release obvious.

METROPCS is GSM now so any unlocked phone or tmobike GSM phone will work. They no longer sell CDMA phones but will support the network through 2015 before it goes full GSM.
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