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I've contacted DELL several times about this POS and they always either act stupid or stonewall. They've been jerking our d*cks about this thing for over 6 months now. I'm ready to buy an HD2 just to f'ing spite them.
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I've contacted DELL several times about this POS and they always either act stupid or stonewall. They've been jerking our d*cks about this thing for over 6 months now. I'm ready to buy an HD2 just to f'ing spite them.
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Are you dumb? It's been released already in the UK, they have basically given release dates for the US and US versions are starting to pop up on ebay.
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Are you dumb? It's been released already in the UK, they have basically given release dates for the US and US versions are starting to pop up on ebay.
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Like I said - SPITE! I hate a company like that jerking me around. The last time I asked a rep about it (last week), they acted like they didn't know what a Streak was and asked me for a webpage on it. I gave the guy the webpage on Dell's site and he said "oh...we don't have a release date". F'ing assholes.
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I hate a company like that jerking me around.
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Haha indeed Dell support acts like they do not know what you are talking about. Then state they have no information. Dell also does not even have an information page for the product other than the press release and 1 blog post (which they never respond to comments).
I too am completely furious about their approach to getting the Streak in the hands of their customers (other than the UK). I personally believe they are tied down with partners (like AT&T and O2) restricting them to just do whatever they wanted and release it. They have confirmed at the D8 that it will release in the US in July. Almost there...
Also, this is all new territory for Dell. Overall the Streak is a beauty and for that, I could care less who made it. I just want one!
jezz ease up. If engadget hadn't managed to find the mini 5 prototype in Asia you wouldn't have known about it for so long. Whats wrong with developing your first piece of hardware in the mobile marketplace so its good and can get help get market share. I mean would you want them to launch a device that is buggy and has issues, I think not.
They have been pretty clear for the last little while on dates and launch details, more clear than some of HTC or Moto launches as of late. Go get your HD2 and enjoy some year old WinMo if thats what you really want.
I'm tired of waiting around to find out whether or not this thing will work on T-mobile. Yeah, I know about the FCC filings for the t-mobile band version but who knows if that even was manufactured.
meatrocket said:
I've contacted DELL several times about this POS and they always either act stupid or stonewall. They've been jerking our d*cks about this thing for over 6 months now. I'm ready to buy an HD2 just to f'ing spite them.
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The thing is you wont be spiteing them,they wont care if you buy one or not because loads will.you will be the one suffering if you don't get one it would be a crying shame i know it sucks having to wait but hopefully it wont be to much longer trust me the wait will be worth it mate
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The thing is you wont be spiteing them,they wont care if you buy one or not because loads will.you will be the one suffering if you don't get one it would be a crying shame i know it sucks having to wait but hopefully it wont be to much longer trust me the wait will be worth it mate
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I hope you're right dude. I had a Touch Pro that had a digitizer failure so now I'm forced back to my 8125 Talk about TORTURE! I was going to just buy another Touch Pro or similar but hate to spend the $$ when the Streak "may" be coming out here in July. I've been drroling over the Streak for a long time, but I REALLY hate Dell's PR and handling of the release of it. That's where Apple has a real edge over other MFR's, they keep the lid on it so people don't get pissed waiting on their products. Michael Dell was smiling like a fool several times over the last 6 months with a Streak as if to say "ha, ha MF's! I have one and you don't!" Makes me want to say "suck it, asshole! I'll take my $$ elsewhere."
Hi guys,
It's worth the wait.
I have had loads of HTC's, last one being my HD2 in February.
I got the Dell Streak yesterday and I thinks its better than any of the HTC's I have had before inc the HD2.
This is mainly due to the Android OS and the marketplace download facility which is way better support than any windows based apps download, or in fact is there any?
I have installed loads of aditional apps, all free and am having lots of fun just as an iphone user would, with ease of use , but all my apps have been free, think I said that but it should be repeated.
I am very gratefull to the XDA team in supporting this device via this forum but the next major step up will be 2.2 hopefully in September.
My brief summary is its not too big but definately bigger that the HD2. The screen of the Dell is actually the size of the outer dimensions of the HD2.
The OS is much better and seems to be a more intuative device all round.
Ther is even an XDA app which saves having to go via the browser and is also very good but for some reason will not accept my login. Very easy to use.
So just wait and don't dive into a HD2 pit even though I love that as well.
John
Johny1fin said:
Hi guys,
It's worth the wait.
I have had loads of HTC's, last one being my HD2 in February.
I got the Dell Streak yesterday and I thinks its better than any of the HTC's I have had before inc the HD2.
This is mainly due to the Android OS and the marketplace download facility which is way better support than any windows based apps download, or in fact is there any?
I have installed loads of aditional apps, all free and am having lots of fun just as an iphone user would, with ease of use , but all my apps have been free, think I said that but it should be repeated.
I am very gratefull to the XDA team in supporting this device via this forum but the next major step up will be 2.2 hopefully in September.
My brief summary is its not too big but definately bigger that the HD2. The screen of the Dell is actually the size of the outer dimensions of the HD2.
The OS is much better and seems to be a more intuative device all round.
Ther is even an XDA app which saves having to go via the browser and is also very good but for some reason will not accept my login. Very easy to use.
So just wait and don't dive into a HD2 pit even though I love that as well.
John
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Hey John,
What you say is true. This device's software is great, and has a lot of apps backing it up. However, that's solely because of the Android OS. Tell me, is it worth having a 5inch screen for a phone? Wasn't the HD2's 4.3 inch big enough?
HTC also has excellent Android phones that are backed by the same software as the Deal Streak, same goes for Sony Ericsson and Samsung.
On a personal note, I don't see this phone getting as much support as the N1, Desire, or even the X10. Whether from the manufacturer or us, the community . So It all comes down to that, doesn't it---as well as the aesthetics and dimensions of the Streak as well.
I don't see the Streak going far in it's life time.
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Hey John,
What you say is true. This device's software is great, and has a lot of apps backing it up. However, that's solely because of the Android OS. Tell me, is it worth having a 5inch screen for a phone? Wasn't the HD2's 4.3 inch big enough?
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Two things on this:
1.6 Really? After having 2.2 on my Sexy Nexy, not sure I want to go back down...
And I played with an EVO and an HD2 last night. 4.3 is pretty big. I'm really re-thinking the 5 inch screen...but damn, it's 5 inches! This is the biggest love/hate I have ever had. Ugh.
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On a personal note, I don't see this phone getting as much support as the N1, Desire, or even the X10. Whether from the manufacturer or us, the community . So It all comes down to that, doesn't it---as well as the aesthetics and dimensions of the Streak as well.
I don't see the Streak going far in it's life time.
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Hate to say it, but I agree. I'm not sure Dell will roll out releases in a timely manner (I mean come on, this thing is shipping with 1.6???). And I don't see it being a huge success at 5", so I don't think there will be as large of a community offering support.
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Two things on this:
1.6 Really? After having 2.2 on my Sexy Nexy, not sure I want to go back down...
And I played with an EVO and an HD2 last night. 4.3 is pretty big. I'm really re-thinking the 5 inch screen...but damn, it's 5 inches! This is the biggest love/hate I have ever had. Ugh.
Hate to say it, but I agree. I'm not sure Dell will roll out releases in a timely manner (I mean come on, this thing is shipping with 1.6???). And I don't see it being a huge success at 5", so I don't think there will be as large of a community offering support.
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Hi Guys,
I am not agest but I am 56 and my eysight is therfore going south.
I cannot see any mobile screen without the assistance of reading glasses.
So for me the larger the better. Having said that I think going above 5" may be impractical for a phone. I have not tried it with a bluetooth hedset yet. I have one in the attick somewhere that I have been trying to flog on car boots for 3 yrs.
The streak does go in my jeans pocket as is but I am now looking round for a decent cover that will protect but not add too much to the dimensions. That may be hard.
I have found the streak better than the HD2 in several ways.
First the additional size does help with browsing and able to fit in lots of screen shortcuts for apps/widgets etc.
It does seems faster all round.
Apps install in the native 2gb memory leaving the sd card all for myself. On the HD2 I was installing as many apps onto the SD as would work.
Some of the above is due to android yes
I am patient enough to wait for the 1.6 to 2.2 upgrade and I think Dell will come through as they have a vested interest in getting the 5" working and selling itself before bringing out 7" and 10" versions.
I am new to android but maybe Dell wanted a tried and tested version as their first tablet before going for say v2.1. I dare say thier development team is fairly new.
Android 3 looks good but may not be available on our phones until xmas 2010.
I think there is definately a market for bigger phones if only for chaps of a certain age who are still techies.
The HD2 may well have a larger market but so has the iphone and there are more reasons I don't want one of them then I can discuss here. Apps are a doddle to install on Android compared witrh any windows phone.
I would like to see manila on the Dell but that will never happen as its HTC property. The Android 3 version seems to be offering a decent GUI though.
WOOT WOOT!!!!
I do not care what anyone says. I want a Dell Streak and I want it bad! I just hope this bad boy has some decent gpu performance.
Thanks [email protected] orange didn't get hold of this! All I can say. Selling my TG01 to buy myself out of my 'we sell you a mobile even though there's little or no coverage in your area by our so called vast Orange network' contract.
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O2 ftw.
Gave up!
Tired of waiting on Dell to pull their heads out. I was giving them until today to release and they let me down after 7 months of hype. I'm going with the Galaxy S on the 18th, F**K DELL!
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Tired of waiting on Dell to pull their heads out. I was giving them until today to release and they let me down after 7 months of hype. I'm going with the Galaxy S on the 18th, F**K DELL!
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Agreed
Glimmer of hope???
Per BGR: We have heard from an AT&T source that the Dell Streak is launching on July 19th on AT&T...
- Can't post a link since I'm a 'new member'... just google news it...
I bounced through Dell sales chats a few days ago and finally was told by someone in the Electronics and Accessories dept. that it will be available on their website on 7/16/2010. Whether or not that is true remains to be seen.
Either way, maybe one of the other phones might be better for me (like the Samsung Captivate/Galaxy S series), since it still has a pretty big screen without all the heft of the Streak. Also, the Captivate may receive wider market acceptance and more software support from Samsung as well as developers (at least AT&T and other carriers are promoting this device, which is more than Dell is doing right now).
Johnny,
I am like you old as dirt, and the bigger the better. plus the browsing experience is better when bigger.
I wanted a Huewai S7 which is 7", but not available till the end of July.
Android OS rocks over the HD2 win crap. this is the last win phone I am going to have, selling my HD2 to my son....
Dell has really done a dirty deed to us all, but it should be worth waiting.
Please dont make the mistake of buying the samsung galaxy s, its a pile of s**t, trust me i had 1, just to many problems and samsungs UI is so slow, that it lags like hell, i now have a dell streak and i couldent be happier
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Hello all,
I am usually not one to make a big deal about things but I am really unhappy with Dell. If they were not ready with a quality device they should have just passed on having a launch event.
I figured it would be good to try and get more info out there since there are so few of us that have been dealing with this issue of the engineering samples and now bad returns. May not help us but you never know. If more sites have news about this maybe Dell will start to take notice since I have tried to get the news to all the Windows Phone sites that I have been reading.
WPcentral.com
Pocketnow.com
WmPoseruser.com
EverythingWM.com
Tmonews.com
I have also sent some info to jkontherun.com
Hopefully if word of what is going on spreads a bit more Dell will say something.. anything..
If Dell isn't ready with the Venue Pro then I'd just let Dell take their time to come up with a polished product. It's clear that they were not ready for the November 8 soft launch. The decision to rush the phones to Microsoft stores led to this PR fiasco.
It's just a phone. It's not the end of the world. Dell isn't forcing anyone to buy their phone.
I don't want them to rush anything.. I want the exact opposite.. If they get bad press from all of this they might think twice about releasing a product this way again.
I really want them to take a good few months to get it right before they try and launch again.
I'd like for them to just quickly tell us if this is a week long fix for them or a few months, I'm betting it's a few months now and I may just end up getting a Focus by Dec 1st
I think they are going to take their time trying to please us, they have a bigger computer market to worry about. They are going to what they do regardless
I believe between this site and references to this site from various techblogs as well as comments in Twitter have gotten Dell's attention.
Although I got my wife the Focus, I have decided to give Dell an opportunity to correct itself with a fixed product to release. Having said that, I may reach a point where I just might wait until first of next year to see what other devices Samsung and others have up their sleeve. Frankly, the hardward/spec on all the current WP7 phones are near end of lifecycle products (except the screen) on teh DVP and Foucs) so I'm kind of at a point where I may just skip the Venue Pro all together and wait for the next gen devices.
Hell, I've waited 1.8 years for WP7, what's another 2-3 months... All this goes out the window if Dell has it available in December. If later, I'll just wait.
If you do currently own a DVP and have issues, call Dell mobility and have them issue you a service number. They are escalating all issues to management. That would at least show that you as a consumer are concerned and will hopefully get them in contact with you once they have some news. The number is 18003083355
gshocker said:
Hello all,
I am usually not one to make a big deal about things but I am really unhappy with Dell. If they were not ready with a quality device they should have just passed on having a launch event.
I figured it would be good to try and get more info out there since there are so few of us that have been dealing with this issue of the engineering samples and now bad returns. May not help us but you never know. If more sites have news about this maybe Dell will start to take notice since I have tried to get the news to all the Windows Phone sites that I have been reading.
WPcentral.com
Pocketnow.com
WmPoseruser.com
EverythingWM.com
Tmonews.com
I have also sent some info to jkontherun.com
Hopefully if word of what is going on spreads a bit more Dell will say something.. anything..
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Nice move... now they canceled all pre-ordered deviced on their site..
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Nice move... now they canceled all pre-ordered deviced on their site..
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Yep. A representative called me yesterday afternoon to tell me my order had been canceled. And the wait continues...
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Nice move... now they canceled all pre-ordered deviced on their site..
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Pretty sure that post didn't cause them to make such a large decision as to cancel all pre-orders...lol
I would certainly hope that a post would not sway corporate decisions like that. My hope is that Dell or Microsoft says something about the status of the product. At the moment the MS stores are still showing them but not saying anything about availability.
kimck99 said:
I believe between this site and references to this site from various techblogs as well as comments in Twitter have gotten Dell's attention.
Although I got my wife the Focus, I have decided to give Dell an opportunity to correct itself with a fixed product to release. Having said that, I may reach a point where I just might wait until first of next year to see what other devices Samsung and others have up their sleeve. Frankly, the hardward/spec on all the current WP7 phones are near end of lifecycle products (except the screen) on teh DVP and Foucs) so I'm kind of at a point where I may just skip the Venue Pro all together and wait for the next gen devices.
Hell, I've waited 1.8 years for WP7, what's another 2-3 months... All this goes out the window if Dell has it available in December. If later, I'll just wait.
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I am with you on this, I made a point about the poor specs and build quality on the HD7 and got criticized buy a few.
It seems that most think the current specs are fine.
Personally I would like better all round specs not 2 year old tech like the HD2 has. After all it is nearly 2011.
It has been frustrating trying to get a WP7 phone with the specifications I like.
I just got off the phone with Dell for the 5th time today. I went through online support, and direct on the phone support to include several reps, and 2 supervisors (if they are really who they say they are).
According to them, the Beta streaks were 30 day devices only. They were supposed to work for 30 days and then stop working. To a degree, most did, since AT&T blocked the IMEI numbers on their networks. Some, like me, took them over to Tmobile and they still work with any GSM card. In any case, Dell's intention was to make the beta units "throw away" phones. Their beta program was designed to give the flavor so that beta owners would then purchase new models through whatever channels, be it AT&T or direct through Dell.
As such, and as with mine, they tell me, there is no support whatsoever for the beta units and that's why our Svce Tags do not appear anywhere but on our devices. They will not support them, and thus, the updates that were going out would never have reached our devices. This seems strange to me since a few months ago I did get an OTA that left the device on 1.6, but beyond that, <insert overly exaggerated shrug here> This information tells me that the only way we'll get the updates is by manually installing them ourselves. Considering the trash that Dell has put us with (the 2.1 farce in the UK, and now the 2.2 slap in the face recently) this is no surprise to me. I'm grateful that I didn't have to pay for this device, as I would be trying to organize a class action suit right about now... so I guess the soul searching begins. I like the phone... but now I hate Dell... I'll probably sell my laptop too. Do I stick it out with this streak, or do I go get something else with Froyo on it?
stick it out, bud, this is a nice peice of equipment, forget Dell, thats what XDA is here for. Not too long I'm sure we will se some dual core devices, until then I say go with the streak, or sell it for a decent price
Mine Streak is also a Beta unit but when I checked for an update it was there .. I downloaded it and installed it .. I am surprised it didn't work that way for you. Now I am only 99.99999% sure it is a beta unit .. whatever it is, I use Tmobile with it.
Yeah, I hate the way Dell has handled just about every aspect of handling the Streak.
But didn't they say that Beta Streaks (on 1.6) would get this 2.2 update first? Is there anyone still on 1.6 that actually GOT the update?
I'm using a Beta unit, and it's still working just fine. I wouldn't say that they considered them to be "throw away" devices, because from everything I've read (I've been following the Streak for more than a year now), they're basically just early full production units. Sure, there might have been a line of code in there to make it not work with ATT, but mine's on TMO and I couldn't be happier. (Well, except it'd be nice to have 3G bands lol!)
ShEEsh.... get a text editor from the market and go into your system>build.prop file using a Root Explorer... there's a line that I found in mine in that file that says "ro.build.CONFIG_HW_AUSTIN=1"... I take that Austin line to mean that this is the Beta hardware (because I KNOW mine is a Beta lol).... if yours says that, it's a beta. If it has =0, I'll bet it's an ATT unit....
I did get the update first and it installed fine.
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Considering the trash that Dell has put us with (the 2.1 farce in the UK, and now the 2.2 slap in the face recently) this is no surprise to me. I'm grateful that I didn't have to pay for this device, as I would be trying to organize a class action suit right about now... so I guess the soul searching begins. I like the phone... but now I hate Dell... I'll probably sell my laptop too. Do I stick it out with this streak, or do I go get something else with Froyo on it?
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So let me get this right... You've got a FREE Dell Streak which is a BETA unit that you didn't pay for, that still works fine even though Dell had intended that it would have a short life span - and you're *****ing because they won't offer support on it?
I've got just two words for you m8
Grow up!
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So let me get this right... You've got a FREE Dell Streak which is a BETA unit that you didn't pay for, that still works fine even though Dell had intended that it would have a short life span - and you're *****ing because they won't offer support on it?
I've got just two words for you m8
Grow up!
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Lol i have to agree..free unit,
I think you should leave the streak alone and jump into another device and that should be an iPhone 4. first the dell you got free is crap because can't be use with ATT.
second, it might never work with ATT , and that sucks cause you wanna use your free beta device there. third this thing has no warranty? so if you break your FREE device then they have to repair it for free too? damn that sounds like a hell of a deal. So if you have signed the paper on that marathon/race and read carefullly you will see that it clearly stated that the device is for 30 day testing, now you want to sue them because you want to use the device on ATT after the 30 day trial and aren't getting any support? I don't understand why the crying? don't want to be an a**hole but I don't get the point. this is like reading a review in newegg saying oh the package was very bad wrapped and when it got here it had 2 dins on each side of the package, and it has written "i'm kinky" all over the place so go ahead and mark 1 star just because of that, and has nothing to do with the actual device.
I currently own a BETA device I did pay for it and I won't be getting any warranty, am I crying about it? no, am I happy? can't be more happy to pay for this. So far my internal SD has given up had to buy one, no biggie, i have a bad USB cable, I haven't cry yet. still have my dignity and my upgraded streak on a working condition. Can't be anymore happier than what I am at the moment. Almost bought a samsung captivate and I'm glad I didn't.
Don't want to be mean but is just how I think that some of you just want the whole world in your feet without doing anyithing.
And the most important on these devices is not the warranty (that is third for me) it is the COMMUNITY, the community makes the device worth having.
You don't need Dell support .. their support is HORRIBLE .. Nobody knows what the person in the next cube knows... You can call 3 times, same question and get 3 different answers. The ONLY THING the beta user is lacking is warranty. But most people have voided their warranty over and over again ..
I traded my PAID FOR Dell Streak that was locked to ATT to someone with a Beta, that was locked OUT OF ATT .. Got my update before anyone else .. I am happy!! but still .. Dell does suck. I wouldn't buy from them again .. [unless they had a Streak, problems solved, that connects to Tmobile 4G ..
ALSO .. when I got a call from Dell last week saying "UNLOCKED Tmobile available now." I asked "is that with 3G or rather Tmobiles 4G .." There is not ANYONE there that can answer that question .. Shouldn't they know if they are calling YOU to purchase???
Couldn't agree more, sadly, that is the world we live in now.
Everyone wants everything GIVEN to them, and if not, they sue.
I use to kludge, hack stuff back in the DOS days...if it didn't work, oh well...wasn't suppose to anyway, but, when it did, it was a since of accomplishment & pride!
Now, if something doesn't go exactly the way someone wants it to, they get all bent out of shape.
Am I happy the 2.2 update hasn't hit my non contract bought directly from Dell streak? Nope...would I like the 2.2 update...yep, but, considering I came from a windows mobile 6.5 and earlier phone(s), that had to be tweaked out of the box just to get the #*$*! thing to run, I'm happy with 1.6.
We live in an "instant" world....24/7 internet, 24/7 news, 24/7 everything, and I for one think it has made us WORSE, not better....we have no patience anymore.
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Don't want to be mean but is just how I think that some of you just want the whole world in your feet without doing anything.
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I asked "is that with 3G or rather Tmobiles 4G .." There is not ANYONE there that can answer that question .. Shouldn't they know if they are calling YOU to purchase???
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I'd expect TMobile to know if they were caling you since it's their network, but maybe not Dell. Do you know what band TMobile are using for their 4g service? if it doesn't match with what is on the Streak then it has no chance of working.
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So let me get this right... You've got a FREE Dell Streak which is a BETA unit that you didn't pay for, that still works fine even though Dell had intended that it would have a short life span - and you're *****ing because they won't offer support on it?
I've got just two words for you m8
Grow up!
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ok to all the cool people that actually read my post and got the gist of what it was saying, thanks for the advice and good words. To all the jerks like this dude, man, ease up.
For starters, I was information gathering. I called to find out why my svce tag wasn't showing up. my details of the events was called information SHARING... especially to other beta owners... hence the attn beta title...
now with that being said, the last thing was IF I had bought it I might be trying to organize a class action suit. It's a good device, but Dell is on the brink of ruining it with the crappy update and even crappier support to everyone not just me.
So, ok I'll grow up, if you, with obviously nothing better to do, will try to get a life...
I just finished arranging my Xoom in its original packaging and placed it back in its Verizon bag to go back as soon as tomorrow. Unfortunately after some heated internal debating ive decided that the Xoom is not the Tablet for me.
My first experience with Android was with my beloved EVO 4G and ive since become very fond of its in and outs. I hoped i would feel the same way with the Xoom and Android in Tablet form. Unfortunately some glaring ommisions and simply blatant misguided intentions keep me from loving what is an otherwise spectacular piece of hardware.
First off, for a device that claims to be a true Ipad competitor one of the most important areas to address is MEDIA. My mom has an Ipad 3g that i purchased and set up for her and everything runs flawlessly in its limited ecosystem. The Xoom while a much more capable piece of hardware is severely lacking in its implemented media delivery system. How a tablet could even be shipped without a dedicated video player is just beyond absurd to me(im sorry GALLERY is NOT the first place anyone would look to find movies) That wouldnt even be so bad if it weren't for the fact that getting movies on your device is simple enough but watching them is a downright chore. On the Ipad most video formats arent supported, but with one simple app i was able to load any movie i wanted and play it without the hassle of Itunes compatability. Xoom on the other hand has had me spend HOURS converting and researching Video files and codecs and converters just to get a movie to play on my Xoom without the framerate of dialup porn in the 90's. Ive made great progress with this as well, but why should i have to? If i werent me and i were just your average consumer i would be completely lost and frustrated.
So right out the gate weve got a
-4G tablet with NO 4G(pending)
-Expandable Memory(Pending)
-Flash Support(Pending)
-HD Video support(De-Pending on how computer savvy you are)
But ultimately the True Nail in the coffin for me was VERIZON. I chose to go the subsidized route due to the absence of a WiFi only option. I figured i was getting the WiFI version/price plus 3G if i wanted it. But after some hard thinking i realized.... I HATE VERIZON. We have a sordid past involving a cellphone i once had( a MOTOROLA btw, first and only ive ever owned) that wound up leaving me permanently soured on that particular carrier. So the fact that i was so anxious to get a Xoom that i actually got back in bed with these guys took a couple of days to set in. But being that im an avid early adopter i decided i could not be contractually obligated to a first Gen piece of hardware for two years.
I truly believe that the Xoom has potential up the wahzoo. But i cant allow myself to be suckered into playing the waiting game like some lonely side piece waiting for their lover to drop the axe on his marriage. I think there is a place for the Xoom in my life, but only in Wifi form and @ $600 unsubsidized. Once that becomes a reality then i will likely be back for seconds. Until then ill have to swallow my $70 restocking fee but atleast ill be $580 richer and VERIZONless. isnt thats what relly matters in the end?
So... if i read that right.. Your one complaint that you didn't know about before hand was the video player. That's totally understandable.
The rest of it is just plain *****ing, you knew about all of those things BEFORE YOU BOUGHT IT and you're just coming here to ***** for no reason.
Sorry I'm just so tired of these posts, everyone knows what the xoom is/isn't capable of, yet they go and pay $800 then ***** about it non stop.
Some people like to buy things, play with them for a week, and then decide to return them based on things they knew when they bought them. Then they come on forums and complain about a device they no longer own.
What kind of responses do you want, do you want us to feel sorry for you?
And let me get this straight....you payed $799 for the Xoom, and now your going to pay a $70 restocking fee. Yet an $600 WiFi only model 2 months down the road sounds good to you? What?
you are one pissed off dude
Bauxite said:
So... if i read that right.. Your one complaint that you didn't know about before hand was the video player. That's totally understandable.
The rest of it is just plain *****ing, you knew about all of those things BEFORE YOU BOUGHT IT and you're just coming here to ***** for no reason.
Sorry I'm just so tired of these posts, everyone knows what the xoom is/isn't capable of, yet they go and pay $800 then ***** about it non stop.
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Actually no one knows that the Xoom isn't capable of playing back what everyone would consider HD media, because they sell it on this point in every commercial without feeling the need to clarify that its only in their VERY specific and unused form of 720p and 1080p that videos actually play. Everyone who asks me about the Xoom is surprised to hear that its dual core processor and eight core GPU is incapable of playing back HD h.264 in high profile, which is what everyone has. And it IS a Tegra 2 issue. I had an owner of a Notion Ink test on video that a high profile video is incapable of being played on the Notion Ink, so the claim made by multiple people here that its a lack of codecs for the Xoom seems to be false. The video is posted in the general section.
As for the other issues, yea the OP pretty much spent money on something knowing its shortcomings and is complaining about his bad decision. And how do you sign a 2 year contract with a company that you hate???
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Actually no one knows that the Xoom isn't capable of playing back what everyone would consider HD media, because they sell it on this point in every commercial without feeling the need to clarify that its only in their VERY specific and unused form of 720p and 1080p that videos actually play. Everyone who asks me about the Xoom is surprised to hear that its dual core processor and eight core GPU is incapable of playing back HD h.264 in high profile, which is what everyone has. And it IS a Tegra 2 issue. I had an owner of a Notion Ink test on video that a high profile video is incapable of being played on the Notion Ink, so the claim made by multiple people here that its a lack of codecs for the Xoom seems to be false. The video is posted in the general section.
As for the other issues, yea the OP pretty much got spent money on something knowing its shortcomings and is complaining about his bad decision.
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That's what I meant when I said there was one issue he didn't know about.
That's what I love about android it doesn't hold your hand and wipe your ass so to speak. Its and operating system that is full customizable. Hell you couldn't even change the wallpaper on an iPhone for years.....
The lack of video player makes sense but the fact that you can download any player out want makes up for it. Rockplayer lite can play pretty much any video you can throw at it.
SKReeettttt... hold [email protected]!!
I was merely pointing out the main points to why im choosing to return my XOOM but i just figured my post was long enough without tunring this into a miniseries. I dont expect any sympathy. I totally admit that i made a choice and in the end decided that it wasnt the right choice for me, thats all. Im allowed to change my mind arent i?. No i didnt pay 799. I payed 599(subsidized) which meant ill be on contract with Verizon for 2 years until the Ipad 4 comes out (not cool).
I did all of my homework before making this purchase. But even given that info without any solid confirmations from a number of companies until literally the 11th hour alot of it was guesswork. So i became my own guinea pig and if all it costs me is 70 bucks i think i got off easy.
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SKReeettttt... hold [email protected]!!
I was merely pointing out the main points to why im choosing to return my XOOM but i just figured my post was long enough without tunring this into a miniseries. I dont expect any sympathy. I totally admit that i made a choice and in the end decided that it wasnt the right choice for me, thats all. Im allowed to change my mind arent i?. No i didnt pay 799. I payed 599(subsidized) which meant ill be on contract with Verizon for 2 years until the Ipad 4 comes out (not cool).
I did all of my homework before making this purchase. But even given that info without any solid confirmations from a number of companies until literally the 11th hour alot of it was guesswork. So i became my own guinea pig and if all it costs me is 70 bucks i think i got off easy.
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Ipad4??????? I plan to have the xoom 3.
After all these post it seems they have I pad experience and want to go back to the drone life
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I sympathize with your frustration. Despite all the sugar coating and the feel good positive self help encouragement on this board, the reality is, that there really isn't an excuse for a device to have these shortcomings. If its not ready to be released don't release it.
I am amazed at how much crap people will put up with. $800 + tax to spend hours encoding videos -SERIOUSLY!!
Seems like every other post is some form of be patient and their will be unicorns and roses and sunshine just around the corner.
I am willing to bet you guys are all 100% right about all the fixes. Last I checked the turn-around time for new tech these days is about the time it takes to blink.
By the time the fixes are available, they will likely all be distributed in one, complete, non downloadable format called the XOOM 2.
Some of you are very defensive!
The OP knew the device had some shortcomings but wanted to give it a shot anyway. He did, and found more things he had an issue with. He doesn't want a 2year contract with VZW and decided to give us an account of why he is returning it. Get off his back.
does best buy charge a restocking fee for the xoom? if they don't i may be right behind the op in the next few days.
the having to re-encode video is killing it for me. i bought this as a media consumption device, a large part of that being videos, maybe using it with my hdtv too.
if i have to spend hours converting video, thats just a waste of time, id be better served using my samsung epic phone.
thats just sad, my freaking cell phone plays video better than the xoom.
seeing hte xoom and adam comparison video was disheartening. i have read that the tegra 2 was demoed by nvidia playing h264 1080p high profile video at 10mbit and its supposed to be able to do 720p high profile at 20mbit.
both the xoom and adam seem to be incapable of this currently, that being said, it is still POSSIBLE that this can be solved with software/codecs.
the problem is when and what if? if it does happen, when will it be? but what if it doesn't happen?
as i watch the days tick away till my deadline where the xoom is no longer returnable, im getting more and more concerned because i don't want to be stuck with an $800 device that only does half of what it advertised.
/rant
sorry a bout that, just wanted to get it off my chest too. i just don't know what to do. i see the potential in the device, but i also understand the fact that the potential may never be realized.
everyone is pissed off
Yawn.
iPad and likely iPad 2 cannot even do real multitasking and these are the things we find to complain about.
It's ok to have buyers remorse for the price, but anyone in the Android world knows that the beauty of the ecosystem is something and somebody will almost certainly come along and fix whatever problem you have.
It's a simple trade off between flexibility and the Apple dictatorship, if you want to be locked into what a system can do, be sure to buy an iPad, where if you have a problem, you are almost certainly stuck with it forever.
It an easy choice for me, I do not stress out waiting for improvements, I enjoy the continuously improvements over the lifetime of the hardware. I cannot even image being locked into the Apples 'my way or the highway' environment.
And in 5 years when Android is 70% of the market and Apple is relegated to it's sub 30% share, where it is most comfortable, there is a reason.
And last but not least, no device is perfect, and to expect that invites disappointment every time.
Not that he said he was going to iPad, but others in the thread seemed to suggest that is there solution.
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Yawn.
iPad and likely iPad 2 cannot even do real multitasking and these are the things we find to complain about.
It's ok to have buyers remorse for the price, but anyone in the Android world knows that the beauty of the ecosystem is something and somebody will almost certainly come along and fix whatever problem you have.
It's a simple trade off between flexibility and the Apple dictatorship, if you want to be locked into what a system can do, be sure to buy an iPad, where if you have a problem, you are almost certainly stuck with it forever.
It an easy choice for me, I do not stress out waiting for improvements, I enjoy the continuously improvements over the lifetime of the hardware. I cannot even image being locked into the Apples 'my way or the highway' environment.
And in 5 years when Android is 70% of the market and Apple is relegated to it's sub 30% share, where it is most comfortable, there is a reason.
And last but not least, no device is perfect, and to expect that invites disappointment every time.
Not that he said he was going to iPad, but others in the thread seemed to suggest that is there solution.
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Why do you assume that everyone who returns a XOOM wil immediately run out and buy an iPad. Many may just chose to wait and see what Samsung and LG and others will produce.
I have a Galaxy Tab and I chose to wait at this point. I'm not running out and buying an Apple device. This battle isn't all Apples and Oranges - or Androids and Apples......
My Nexus 1 couldn't record 720 video and FM didn't work until enterprising hackers figured out how to enable it. If I was waiting on official channels, it still wouldn't work. Just because Moto can't figure it out doesn't mean it won't eventually be done.
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My Nexus 1 couldn't record 720 video and FM didn't work until enterprising hackers figured out how to enable it. If I was waiting on official channels, it still wouldn't work. Just because Moto can't figure it out doesn't mean it won't eventually be done.
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Agreeded. My wife and I each have a Xoom and we love it. Sure it has some short comings, but so does every device. In the end, the biggest selling point for me for the Xoom was the unlocked bootloader and the Google experience device. The software on this thing is going to be hacked and chopped up to no end. That is what most people are missing. Who cares that it wasn't 100% ready at launch...seriously. I am much happier having one to play with now rather then waiting another month or 2 or 3. Any of you saying otherwise is lying to yourself because of self inflicted buyers remorse.
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Agreeded. My wife and I each have a Xoom and we love it. Sure it has some short comings, but so does every device. In the end, the biggest selling point for me for the Xoom was the unlocked bootloader and the Google experience device. The software on this thing is going to be hacked and chopped up to no end. That is what most people are missing. Who cares that it wasn't 100% ready at launch...seriously. I am much happier having one to play with now rather then waiting another month or 2 or 3. Any of you saying otherwise is lying to yourself because of self inflicted buyers remorse.
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I agree there's nothing greater then having a device that has flaws starting out and having the oportunity to watch them get fixed and watch the device grow I can't wait to see what the xoom will soon be able to do
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I just finished arranging my Xoom in its original packaging and placed it back in its Verizon bag to go back as soon as tomorrow. Unfortunately after some heated internal debating ive decided that the Xoom is not the Tablet for me.
My first experience with Android was with my beloved EVO 4G and ive since become very fond of its in and outs. I hoped i would feel the same way with the Xoom and Android in Tablet form. Unfortunately some glaring ommisions and simply blatant misguided intentions keep me from loving what is an otherwise spectacular piece of hardware.
First off, for a device that claims to be a true Ipad competitor one of the most important areas to address is MEDIA. My mom has an Ipad 3g that i purchased and set up for her and everything runs flawlessly in its limited ecosystem. The Xoom while a much more capable piece of hardware is severely lacking in its implemented media delivery system. How a tablet could even be shipped without a dedicated video player is just beyond absurd to me(im sorry GALLERY is NOT the first place anyone would look to find movies) That wouldnt even be so bad if it weren't for the fact that getting movies on your device is simple enough but watching them is a downright chore. On the Ipad most video formats arent supported, but with one simple app i was able to load any movie i wanted and play it without the hassle of Itunes compatability. Xoom on the other hand has had me spend HOURS converting and researching Video files and codecs and converters just to get a movie to play on my Xoom without the framerate of dialup porn in the 90's. Ive made great progress with this as well, but why should i have to? If i werent me and i were just your average consumer i would be completely lost and frustrated.
So right out the gate weve got a
-4G tablet with NO 4G(pending)
-Expandable Memory(Pending)
-Flash Support(Pending)
-HD Video support(De-Pending on how computer savvy you are)
But ultimately the True Nail in the coffin for me was VERIZON. I chose to go the subsidized route due to the absence of a WiFi only option. I figured i was getting the WiFI version/price plus 3G if i wanted it. But after some hard thinking i realized.... I HATE VERIZON. We have a sordid past involving a cellphone i once had( a MOTOROLA btw, first and only ive ever owned) that wound up leaving me permanently soured on that particular carrier. So the fact that i was so anxious to get a Xoom that i actually got back in bed with these guys took a couple of days to set in. But being that im an avid early adopter i decided i could not be contractually obligated to a first Gen piece of hardware for two years.
I truly believe that the Xoom has potential up the wahzoo. But i cant allow myself to be suckered into playing the waiting game like some lonely side piece waiting for their lover to drop the axe on his marriage. I think there is a place for the Xoom in my life, but only in Wifi form and @ $600 unsubsidized. Once that becomes a reality then i will likely be back for seconds. Until then ill have to swallow my $70 restocking fee but atleast ill be $580 richer and VERIZONless. isnt thats what relly matters in the end?
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I absolutely agree with you. Which is the reason my Xoom is also heading back to Best Buy. Its just not ready for prime time. Now i consider myself an early adopter and i have no problems doing so but this device is just way, way too young. Ill wait for it to mature again and purchase it later. In the mean time ill let my $800+ dollars sit in a high interest account ;-)
No one cares that you don't like it. Good bye have fun, hope you find what you are looking for elsewhere
Well my contract renewal is on the horizon, I feel I cant go back to a screen smaller than 5 inches after using my streak for so long, but with no updates about the opus1 in over 6 months, what other 5 inch devices will be available in the coming months?
If any?
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I think Acer has one that is or is about 5". Its not out yet tho. Google "Acer iconia smart". I think I'm gonna get the HTC holiday if it ever comes out. It's only 4.5" tho.
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I tried Samsung Galaxy S2 the other day:
light and plastic,feel like a toy
made to look like a iphone
running smooth,perf is good
scr is over saturate,unreal
the touch is not as smooth as Streak
5" Addiction
I like TOTALLY feel your pain.... If my Streak ever breaks, I'll be forced into "pocket-tablet rehab" LOL... As you know, other devices look SO small now... even the HTC Sensation, which I had very high hopes for, is significantly more narrow (screen size), than an HD2 or Evo.... To me, it's basically a narrow strip of glass.... Same goes for the Acer Iconia..... it has something like a 21:9 aspect ratio, meaning it's an even longer "strip of glass" than even the Sensation. I did read that Samsung is coming out with a "Q" model, that's supposedly 5.3" (bigger than our Streaks even)..... Unfortunately, it will probably have worse LCD-fracturing problems because it's surrounding frame will constitute the most lightweight/cheap plastic available.... I think I'll need Streak methadone to get mine out of my hands :-o...... Good luck, and tell us what you end up with
Ill wait and see what dell comes out with next. I'm in no rush for a new device. This streak is keeping me very satisfied!
Can't go to a smaller screen. The Q with the folding display looks like an intriguing device.
http://www.intomobile.com/2011/07/19/samsung-q-53-inch-tabletphone-hybrid-may-have-foldable-display/
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I like TOTALLY feel your pain.... If my Streak ever breaks, I'll be forced into "pocket-tablet rehab" LOL... As you know, other devices look SO small now... even the HTC Sensation, which I had very high hopes for, is significantly more narrow (screen size), than an HD2 or Evo.... To me, it's basically a narrow strip of glass.... Same goes for the Acer Iconia..... it has something like a 21:9 aspect ratio, meaning it's an even longer "strip of glass" than even the Sensation. I did read that Samsung is coming out with a "Q" model, that's supposedly 5.3" (bigger than our Streaks even)..... Unfortunately, it will probably have worse LCD-fracturing problems because it's surrounding frame will constitute the most lightweight/cheap plastic available.... I think I'll need Streak methadone to get mine out of my hands :-o...... Good luck, and tell us what you end up with
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They want meee to go to Pocket Tablet REEE-Hab, and I said "noooooo , No -NO!"
ROFL !! Good one, Rico and for days now I've been thinking she died of a drug overdose (ouch) LOL
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ROFL !! Good one, Rico and for days now I've been thinking she died of a drug overdose (ouch) LOL
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I was ROFL x2 after reading your rehab post too, because what you've said regarding moving from the Dell 5" screen to anything smaller would slap me so far into pocket-tablet-rehab, I dont think I would EVER recover..
As torn up as Winehouse was, its still a sad moment when someone dies , even so young.
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Ill wait and see what dell comes out with next. I'm in no rush for a new device. This streak is keeping me very satisfied!
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You would trust Dell again? Seriously? They used to have a crime called "non-support" that you could get arrested for. They should round up all the Dell executives and lock them away.
They'll be playing hockey in Hell before I buy another Dell product.
Okay, I might chance a computer...
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Can't go to a smaller screen. The Q with the folding display looks like an intriguing device.
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My screen has had a crack in it for months now and dirt has started working its way inside. I have serious reservations about what that seam will look like after a while, but I really like the concept.
Too true..... Having been on the receiving end of an intervention many, MANY moons ago, I can still see the humor in comments above..... It's too bad no one could get through to her in time...
Anywho, comments overheard at a recent Streak intervention: "We all love you so much.... can't you see what this Streak is doing to your life"?..... "You have it up..... I mean on your arm from morning to night"..... "You give all your money to Michael Dell..... can't you see what that does to people who love you"?.... "Please for your own good, pick up a Sensation or a Galaxy"
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Too true..... Having been on the receiving end of an intervention many, MANY moons ago, I can still see the humor in comments above..... It's too bad no one could get through to her in time...
Anywho, comments overheard at a recent Streak intervention: "We all love you so much.... can't you see what this Streak is doing to your life"?..... "You have it up..... I mean on your arm from morning to night"..... "You give all your money to Michael Dell..... can't you see what that does to people who love you"?.... "Please for your own good, pick up a Sensation or a Galaxy"
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Yep, she was really one of the uniquely talented singers today who would have made a legendary mark in music like other greats. Sorry to see her go.
Michael Dell OWNS MY SOUL, because, I cannot kick this habit! This monkey on my back called the Dell Streak has is the BEST phone ive ever owned. I know I will have serious withdrawals EVERY time I look at a phone with smaller screens. And totally come unhinged when using a constantly sticky/choppy winmo device. Yup, I dont think theres an intervention that can cure me of my Dell Streak Fix
Ditto, RicoDude ! (as I pass Rico the Streakpipe)
I was considering an alternative to my streak, until I figured out what was causing the FC's & lag. Once I uninstalled launcher pro, and installed go launcher, geez, my streak flies now. I think I'll skip an upgrade this fall, unless something in a 5" range is released and has no hiccups.
Lol, Hilderbrandt, its TRUE
check this pantech vega no. 5, it is better than the streak. The only problem is we don't know when it will be available in the UK/US
Hey I just read a couple of positive (sort of), reviews on the Viewsonic ViewPad 7.... I see the price for one is down to $299 at CompUSA...... Comes with slower processor (but not hideously slow), and has out-of-the-box, unlocked GSM phone capabilities.... Maybe someone here could buy one and tell me how it turns out LOL
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Hey I just read a couple of positive (sort of), reviews on the Viewsonic ViewPad 7.... I see the price for one is down to $299 at CompUSA...... Comes with slower processor (but not hideously slow), and has out-of-the-box, unlocked GSM phone capabilities.... Maybe someone here could buy one and tell me how it turns out LOL
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If viewsonic 7, then why not dell streak 7?
But I don't think anything bigger than 5" will classify as phone too. They would simply be tablets.
p51d007 said:
I was considering an alternative to my streak, until I figured out what was causing the FC's & lag. Once I uninstalled launcher pro, and installed go launcher, geez, my streak flies now. I think I'll skip an upgrade this fall, unless something in a 5" range is released and has no hiccups.
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Roger that. This is the first phone that I am considering keeping until it dies.!
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