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Dell Streak confirmed to ship with Android 1.6 in the US

Its ok guys at least you are getting it
http://www.streaksmart.com/2010/07/...utm_campaign=Feed:+StreakSmart+(Streak+Smart)

that's a shame

It really is a shame. I hope they surprise us and lower the price. $125 for the hardware and another $100 when they ship it with FROYO. Captivate is strong competition. Marketing mistake.

They won't lower the price Dell know they will sell thousands as there is nothing much like this out there, give it 6 months or so and there will be a lot of other Tablets out there, then they might lower the price.
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If it only has 2.1 on it in six months (IPad w/GSM will be there too) they will not be able to give it away.

I am not sure I can wait on the 3G for TMOUS, besides the following is due next week at eXpansys.
http://www.huaweidevice.com/worldwide/productFeatures.do?pinfoId=2586&directoryId=3895&treeId=3290
It does everything the Streak does, just with not such a BIG backer.
Any thoughts.?

I think it will come out of the box with 1.6 but I really wouldn't be surprised to see a day 1 PTA update to 2.2.

terrible. why would they ship one of the best phones available with 1.6. they may have just lost my pre-order.
edit: also the non-standard charger is quite annoying

yup - i must confess - i hope someone at dell is reading this....ive got one, its new, ive had windows phones for the last few years, last one being a HD2 so this is a bit of a leap for me. So, its new so the change in os is keeping me interested, but, i can see why everyone is wanting at least 2.2, if dell dont provide at least that as an upgrade i might stick mine up for sale....other half has a droid on 2.1 and as i say i can hang out for the moment as its new hardware and new software (to me) but i wont be long before i need the latest and greatest...
They should at least post something saying where theyre currently at instead of going silent. then we at least know where we stand.

with all the reviews that are starting to come in I'm really thinking of waiting for the next batch of smart phones. I really would like the Streak but I smell a Nexus One type of marketing ....

wondercoolguy said:
with all the reviews that are starting to come in I'm really thinking of waiting for the next batch of smart phones. I really would like the Streak but I smell a Nexus One type of marketing ....
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Right On! It's one thing to keep the competition from discovering all the breakthrough features of your new product, quite another to be concealing (apparently) that it is a "legacy" device that is twice as expensive as need be. Who even knows if it is upgradeable at all?

Apparently from the horses mouth "some Dell bloke on twitter" it is "Gingerbread" ready....which does fit with the hardware requirements of said, gingerbread...

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Apparently from the horses mouth "some Dell bloke on twitter" it is "Gingerbread" ready....which does fit with the hardware requirements of said, gingerbread...
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Internally yes the Streak is Gingerbread ready but with their custom UI they have made for the device that holds it back. If Ginger bread comes out in Dec like the rumors say then; with upgrading and testing it would be around June before Streak got Ginger bread. With all the rumored changes in Ginger bread whos to say that Dell says no. It seems the purpose of Ginger bread is to stop manufacturers to stop putting skins on top of Android.
There is a great article below about skinning problem.
http://www.droiddog.com/android-blog/2010/07/hey-manufacturers-leave-android-alone/

tbh I wouldn't sweat that it doesn't come with 2.2 out of the box.
1.6 has some minor issues, but they are minor.. and dell have tweaked some of the os to give 2.2 alike features.

we all know that if this phone becomes popular then the Devs will get their hands on the device and we won't have to worry about anything.

Possible next upgrade to streak

Hi folks,
I have a month left on my contract and looking at the streak or the DHD and it would be great if you guys who have the streak can leave your thoughts on why you chose it and what you like about it. The 'issue' I have at the moment is the way of charging it, not by USB. Ok its a small issue but I tend to have a charger connection at work and home just in case so would need to purchase another one (more expense lol)
The other thing is development as there only seems to be the one custom rom for it (please tell me if I am wrong).
So, benefits, nice massive screen is always good (coming from a Hero) and from what I have read its quite nippy too (has it the newer snapdragon or the older one?)
It either this or the DHD

Do a search mate there are lots of threads on people asking the same question and as far as development only Steve is doing it right now and he does a dam good job, one of the problems with development is Dell have not released the Source code until they do Steve can only do so much but he has done a lot better than dell.

lufc said:
Do a search mate there are lots of threads on people asking the same question and as far as development only Steve is doing it right now and he does a dam good job, one of the problems with development is Dell have not released the Source code until they do Steve can only do so much but he has done a lot better than dell.
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Yeh I did a search but nowt. So, Dell are not releasing the source code? I thought this was against Googles rules?

I like HTC because theyre pretty good with updates and support and what not. What I don't like about their products is that theyre all nearly identical. As soon as they release a "ground breaking" product, they release another one that slightly tops it a month later.
I like the streak because theres no hardware (the screen) out there like it. Pair that with front cam, snapdragon, nice battery, and you have specs that rival the top of the game. Although the 1.6 os (for AT&T) is a joke, and theres only streakdroid as a custom rom, I find the streak community very supportive.

Streak is the best! Its only gonna get better as development increases. Get one, you should be able to return it within a month if you don't like it. Once you get used to the size, you can't go back. I never use my netbook anymore...
How many times in a day do you streak owners hear "Wow! Is that your phone!? Can i see it?"
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Lemme summerize what ppl have been sayiing and how I feel about the streak. Amazing phone, obivously biggest advantage is the big screen, and trust me when I tell u this, when you go soooo big u won't be able to go back to 3.7 inches.
The biggest problem with the phone, the camera. If you are a camera person, do not get this phone. this is not to say the camera is crap, but its pretty bad for 5mp.
People have been telling me that they drop their phone and it wasn't a high drop and the screen broke, I drop my phone really hard on the bare ground from 4 feet high and nothing happened (alittle scartch on the back, nothing on the screen) regardless of what happens I have also heard dell will replace it without a big hassel.
I used an iPhone before this phone, and I like this phone better. I have many requests to trade phones from random strangers on the street when they see me using the phone, iPhone 4 users too. So if for some reason you don't like the phone I am sure it wont be hard to trade it up.
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Get one man. I went from the iPhone 3g,S,4, HD2, Desire, EVO, and now this. I'm loving this bad boy. It puts the web and everything else in motion man. This screen is the biz. Couldn't wait so using BestBuy/ att locked version until my Dell unlocked comes in. My 30 days will be up on Feb 6 but phone supposed to be here by the 3rd! If not, will be returning this armed then buying it again to start a new 30 days. So wrong, but am I gonna do? Use my wifes Craptivate or the 3.5 iPhone sitting in my drawer? Nope. Can't wait for some Froyo goodness. I digressed some.
Sent from my freakn Dell Streakn! 3.5 retina? Get outta heh!

Thanks for the replies folks, I am hearing good things from both sides (my other option is the DHD) so if my provider will offer a test run then I will give both of them a whirl and judge that way. I am loving the screen size though. Its ideal. Just worried about development for it. Seems only one guy on the case?

Yeah but he's amazing we already have better that stock version of 2.2 running no problems. When I had stock my quadrant score was 800s now its 1500s and no overclocking.
So even its only one guy he is doing better work than 20 guys.
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yasir_jan87 said:
Yeah but he's amazing we already have better that stock version of 2.2 running no problems. When I had stock my quadrant score was 800s now its 1500s and no overclocking.
So even its only one guy he is doing better work than 20 guys.
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Well yes that seems to be the case but how long into the future will development go for the Dell. I dont want to have a phone that is going to be redundant in 6 months time. Ok thats probably selfish on my point seeing as someone else is doing all the hardwork but we do get spolit you know lol

He already said he is skipping 2.3 if u were wondeing.about but he did also say he will working on 3.0 when it comes out.
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Check out the Samsung Infuse 4G, for AT&T. It may be a viable alternative for you Haizum74.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/05/...ounced-for-atandt-4-5-inch-super-amoled-plus/

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Check out the Samsung Infuse 4G, for AT&T. It may be a viable alternative for you Haizum74.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/05/...ounced-for-atandt-4-5-inch-super-amoled-plus/
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Cheers dude, I'm in England though

As other have said on here the Streak IMHO is probably the best device out there.
DJ_Steve may be the only person cooking a ROM for this thing but if he quit tomorrow i know that the 1.6.1 ROM that i'm running will be better than anything Dell ever puts out for this phone.
That being said if i had to choose another device i would probably got for the HTC Infuse on AT&T, which is the Desire HD for you. Same device, just different name.
Although, i'm biased, go with a Streak. You won't be sorry!

+1 for crappy camm...other than that, I luv my streak...only wish I could get dlna to work..would luv to stream my video library while on the crapper
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I love the Streak. It is insane how great it is and how much I love showing it off.
The only thing in the pipeline now that I would consider instead of the Streak would be the new Motorola ATRIX. A seriously high-end dual-core processor phone would be a step up, I think. But other than that, there isn't much out there to get excited about.

Everyone tell dell how you feel about their lack of support

facebook.com/dell/posts/10150206303962056
We want openness now we want support we want updates fixes etc etc dont abandon us
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I'm letting Dell know by not buying their product. What kind of company makes the phone for Tmo, cancels that, then makes it for ATT, begins selling unlocked versions yet still limits Tmo to edge. All the while making functioning ones for Cin. Bell. F Dell.
Samsung Hercules is worth the wait at this point.
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Your totally right.... Just makes me mad that these companies release hardware and only support the users for a brief period of time. Google needs to lay down some mega rules on the use of android and force the OEM's to support the product for a period of 4 years or more..

Yeah right, also bankers should accept responsibility for screwing us over and politicians should all be honest!
Dell (and every other company, anywhere, ever) are not in business to create good products and waste resources supporting them. They are in business to take joe publics' money to make profit for their shareholders - end of story.
You get the same sob stories from owners of Dell, Samsung, Sony, HTC, Nokia - oh they made me buy this phone that does everything they said it would but now they won't give me any upgrades for free, so now if I want a faster bigger/smaller phone that can make the toast in the morning I have to buy a new one - moan moan.

Ok, Dell takes a phone from Android 1.6 to 2.2 (for AT&T users that would be baseband 353), they clearly publish the specifications (call T-mobile like I did before purchasing and ask them does this work on your 3g network, guess what? They will tell you no it doesn’t will only work on edge) and as long as you have an actual warranty repair they fix it. So how did they screw us?
Also did they get $576 per phone from you? They did from me, bought two of them, one me and one for the wife. We have zero complaints, she uses stock and I use DJ-Steve's custom ROMs. Quit your pissing and moaning and be happy that when you took it out of the box it worked, much better than a lot other things I have bought over my life time.

we have been promised so much by dells CTO and by the head of the linux team to help out with development for the device, lots of pretty talk about community taking over support for future builds etc etc.
all to nothing.
they have even removed the source code for the alpha build for gingerbread from opensource.dell.com
EEJITS

@Fards, ok you got me there, thought the wall was starting to come down, but I guess not. Actually gives them black eye as you, Steve and host of others saved the Streak. You would have figured for all the goodness you have done, they would have wanted to keep you guys happy. Well there is always the Samsung Galaxy S II, know Steve doesn’t like Samsung, but at least it is better than anything apple makes (lesser of two evils).

I guess you are partially right, but don't forget about stock rom full of uninstalable bloatware and extra-slow Dell Stage UI.
We are not asking for another update of stock rom, we are just asking for drivers. But from what I heard, they already released some drivers for Streak: http://opensource.dell.com/releases/streak/
But drivers for audio is missing and Dell is saying they can't release it because they are not owners of the drivers (but then who is?).
Edit: and I want to point out another thing - I guess it will be ok if we can buy updates for our device. For example, if HC 3.2 will have support for tablets with smaller screens (and it should have), I perfectly ok with paying for this update. I understand, that implementing of new update is not easy and for me, it will be still cheaper than buying new device (not to mention there is not another device like Dell Streak).

I doubt there will be any updates since Streak 5 and 7 are getting build anymore and there are no planed successors for Streak 5 and 7 at the moment. Streak Pro will be launched in the US only sometime later this year.
source: someone from inside dell

Once again let's not forget all the issues related to the screen.Gorilla screen sounds pretty damn good,but what about what is underneath?.

I wish they'd at least release drivers so our amazing devs can continue to improve upon this great piece of hardware.. With that said, I really doubt we will see anymore support from Dell, they've seemed to pretty much moved on from the Streak 5

SiNUS82 said:
I doubt there will be any updates since Streak 5 and 7 are getting build anymore and there are no planed successors for Streak 5 and 7 at the moment. Streak Pro will be launched in the US only sometime later this year.
source: someone from inside dell
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btw.. it won't be called "Streak" or be part of the Streak family.

I don't understand what you guys are expecting...
HTC and Motorola just make mobile devices and accessories. They must be more open and provide bleeding edge just to stay in business.
Dell, HP, Sony, etc.... Have hundreds of other products that they make as part of their business model. They don't need mobility to survive.
releasing a device with 1.6... 2.0...2.1...2.2...2.2.2.. seems like alot of updates to me.especially since it wasn't shipped crippled in anyway like samsung.

Dell does just fine and if you want 3g on tmobile look for an aws one I own 3 they are not that hard to find haha
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Krad said:
I don't understand what you guys are expecting...
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It's been said that the best complaint letters are ones that clearly spell out what the writer wants the company to do for them to fix the problem. The OP hasn't provided a very good complaint letter, just a brief rant. But this is to be expected when people have unrealistic expectations.
The OP's comments can be broken down into the following three things:
1. Openness
2. Firmware support
3. A request to not abandon Streak users.
I haven't posted to this thread until now, despite wanting to reply to the OP earlier. However I think the expectations of the OP are unrealistic. The harsh reality is that the Streak's time in the sun has passed and it's rapidly heading towards sunset. If I were in Dell's shoes, none of this would deserve more than a cursory response, mostly because of the points you have already made, especially in regards to firmware support. The other two things? Well the first is so nebulous as to be unanswerable, and the second would be given a boilerplate response regarding where to find information on the Streak.
While I would love to see Honeycomb, or even better, Ice Cream Sandwich on a Streak 5, if I don't get it I'm not going to complain. I'm perfectly happy using 2.2.2.

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Yeah right, also bankers should accept responsibility for screwing us over and politicians should all be honest!
Dell (and every other company, anywhere, ever) are not in business to create good products and waste resources supporting them. They are in business to take joe publics' money to make profit for their shareholders - end of story.
You get the same sob stories from owners of Dell, Samsung, Sony, HTC, Nokia - oh they made me buy this phone that does everything they said it would but now they won't give me any upgrades for free, so now if I want a faster bigger/smaller phone that can make the toast in the morning I have to buy a new one - moan moan.
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Sooo we should all buy iPhones because they are not like the bankers and every other company. Your right they are one of the only companies to support their legacy products. This is why I dont have a problem supporting them and there prices. I know im buying a product i can own for years and sell it later knowing updates and value will be there. The way companies operate now need to take note on how apple supports its devices. I love my streak, I also love my Apple iPhone 4.

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btw.. it won't be called "Streak" or be part of the Streak family.
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Yes it will! Streak Pro.
We will also see a Latitude tablet sometime later this year.

megapimp said:
Sooo we should all buy iPhones because they are not like the bankers and every other company. Your right they are one of the only companies to support their legacy products. This is why I dont have a problem supporting them and there prices. I know im buying a product i can own for years and sell it later knowing updates and value will be there. The way companies operate now need to take note on how apple supports its devices. I love my streak, I also love my Apple iPhone 4.
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I never mentioned the iWord, Apple are no better at looking after their customers than anyone else.

Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
It's been said that the best complaint letters are ones that clearly spell out what the writer wants the company to do for them to fix the problem. The OP hasn't provided a very good complaint letter, just a brief rant. But this is to be expected when people have unrealistic expectations.
The OP's comments can be broken down into the following three things:
1. Openness
2. Firmware support
3. A request to not abandon Streak users.
I haven't posted to this thread until now, despite wanting to reply to the OP earlier. However I think the expectations of the OP are unrealistic. The harsh reality is that the Streak's time in the sun has passed and it's rapidly heading towards sunset. If I were in Dell's shoes, none of this would deserve more than a cursory response, mostly because of the points you have already made, especially in regards to firmware support. The other two things? Well the first is so nebulous as to be unanswerable, and the second would be given a boilerplate response regarding where to find information on the Streak.
While I would love to see Honeycomb, or even better, Ice Cream Sandwich on a Streak 5, if I don't get it I'm not going to complain. I'm perfectly happy using 2.2.2.
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I totally agree the streak works amazingly well as it is, what exactly does gingerbread, honeycomb bring to the streak that you can't already do in froyo? I would prefer dell concentrate on new devices that I can buy when I've had my streak for a year, and I ready for a new 5 inch device.

Dell Venue Pro - Awesome phone!

just come from iphone and HTC sensation
both excellent but I wanted to go back to windows phone (had a HTC HD7 before) but with a keyboard
I must say this is the best phone I have ever had
The construction is beautiful, the keyboard is the best I have ever used (=BB), its lighteningly quick, the IE browser is better then webkit (I can enter some forms in ebay and on forums that I could never do on iphone), the AMOLED screen is super sharp and marketplace is full enough for me (flight control & angry birds ).
The latest version of WP7 is also super smooth.
I really hope that Dell brings out a non-keyboard version (as this is more popular) and markets these hard to service providers come mango.
Dell showed it could make great handheld hardware with the old Axim range, and now the venue pro.
I really hope Dell make a success of their smartphone business, they really deserve to!
I strongly recommend this phone to people that want a beautiful phone with keyboard.
Especially as Dell is occasionally doing various forms of discounts on these now.

I saw DELL myself too and it's really manufactured much much better than HTC HD7 whitch I own :-(
Btw, no new DELL leakage in WP Bench app, but others are leaking hard. I'm looking forward for new Nokia and Samsung phones.

yes, something like the Nokia N8 hardware with a faster cpu and WP7 software would be awesome
I hope the Nokia/WP7 link up takes off
Nokia has always had the best cameras and phone call quality!

Doesn't this phone pack a ridiculous amount of ram? I really was in love with the idea of getting one after i sold my desire, but this made me actually change my mind...this and the fact that it's not even available in my country lol...

vnvman said:
Doesn't this phone pack a ridiculous amount of ram? I really was in love with the idea of getting one after i sold my desire, but this made me actually change my mind...this and the fact that it's not even available in my country lol...
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that was the fault of poorly written drivers. With the latest dell update its back to the 512 it always should have been.

Glad to hear you like your phone. Wow I'm surprised Dell has been able to create a high quality phone.

inktri said:
Glad to hear you like your phone. Wow I'm surprised Dell has been able to create a high quality phone.
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with the recent firmware update it blows any other phone I've used out of the water.

Where do you get the firmware update? Or are you guys talking about Mango

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Where do you get the firmware update? Or are you guys talking about Mango
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On your phone, go to 'settings' -> 'about' -> 'more information'.
Firmware revision number should end in .212. If not, plug your phone into your PC and launch the Zune software.
The latest firmware fixed several problems, especially instability with wifi enabled. If you haven't had any problems with your phone, I would guess you already have the latest firmware

colonel said:
I really hope that Dell brings out a non-keyboard version (as this is more popular) and markets these hard to service providers come mango.
Dell showed it could make great handheld hardware with the old Axim range, and now the venue pro.
I really hope Dell make a success of their smartphone business, they really deserve to!
I strongly recommend these phones to people that want a beautiful phone with keyboard. Especially as Dell is occasionally doing various forms of discounts on these now.
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They actually did sell a version without a keyboard. It was called the 'Dell Venue' and was running Android, not WP7. Don't think it sold very well and the forum isn't very active.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1011
I agree - for a phone with a keyboard, I can't think of anything better at the moment.
Not sure what Dell is doing about their smartphone business. According to leaked roadmaps, there was supposed to be a new version of the Venue Pro codenamed "Wrigley". Not sure if it is abandoned or still being developed.
Dell seems to have had a lot of problems with the firmware on the phone, which apparently was outsourced. Caused a lot of problems with stability / wifi in the past and according to the threads on this forum, the firmware is not elegantly written. (The stability problems were solved by the most recent firmware update.)

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I saw DELL myself too and it's really manufactured much much better than HTC HD7 whitch I own :-(
Btw, no new DELL leakage in WP Bench app, but others are leaking hard. I'm looking forward for new Nokia and Samsung phones.
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Unsure if dell is releasing mango for the coming year. They may not...
I was supposed to write an article on it but eh, crap happens...
btw I love wpbench fantastic program!

domineus said:
Unsure if dell is releasing mango for the coming year. They may not...
I was supposed to write an article on it but eh, crap happens...
btw I love wpbench fantastic program!
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I CAN tell you though that Mango does work on DVP. I've updated a device one of my friends had to it. It's smooth... but VERY unfortunate that it was one of the DVPs that got the Invalid Sim error after doing an initial update from Dell.. blah

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They actually did sell a version without a keyboard. It was called the 'Dell Venue' and was running Android, not WP7. Don't think it sold very well and the forum isn't very active.
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I was talking about a WP7 phone.
I predict big growth in 2012 and 2013 for WP7, driven by mango and Nokia, and Dell has a chance to be part of that.
I like Android, but after usage of Android, BB, iphone and WP7, I prefer WP7.
althought I think iOS 5 (when it is released) will be a close second to Mango

Given Dell's track record launching both the Streak and the DVP, I'm not so sure we will be seeing any new phones from them in the future. Both of those launches were unmitigated disasters and made Dell look like clueless fools. The sad part is that they both turned out to be really nice phones that never sold a lick. I have to think they are taking a long hard look at whether they even want to be in the handset hardware business anymore.

MikeDupp said:
Given Dell's track record launching both the Streak and the DVP, I'm not so sure we will be seeing any new phones from them in the future. Both of those launches were unmitigated disasters and made Dell look like clueless fools. The sad part is that they both turned out to be really nice phones that never sold a lick. I have to think they are taking a long hard look at whether they even want to be in the handset hardware business anymore.
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the key thing with a handset is to get it to providers.
Dell have done so with tmobile in the us but not in Europe
Its a simple thing to rectify
As I said before, whilst there are people who buy keyboard mobiles, the majority of people don't want a keyboard, which is why Dell need more non-keyboard wp7 models, of which they have none.
The HTC desire z and hd7 pro also did miserably but HTC has decided to keep going with keyboard phones.
Lastly I wouldn't compare to the streak. 5" is too big for a phone and too small for a tablet.

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I CAN tell you though that Mango does work on DVP. I've updated a device one of my friends had to it. It's smooth... but VERY unfortunate that it was one of the DVPs that got the Invalid Sim error after doing an initial update from Dell.. blah
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not what I mean
I mean a mango specific device
trust me, if a mango specific device was coming, I would sorta know about it.

Michael Dell: Android Has Not “Developed to Expectations”

This title pretty much says it all...
http://www.androidguys.com/2011/10/13/michael-dell-android-developed-expectations/
Don't be waiting for The Opus One.
To tell you the truth I wasn't.
Im waiting for the:
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zsolti256 said:
This title pretty much says it all...
http://www.androidguys.com/2011/10/13/michael-dell-android-developed-expectations/
Don't be waiting for The Opus One.
To tell you the truth I wasn't.
Im waiting for the:
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Me too!
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In the case of our unit, don't you actually have to market the damn thing if you want Android to meet your expectations?

Dell has yet to market ANY of it's mobile devices,
strangely though the venue pro is doing a lot better then the venue, even though the venue pro had a really hard start in life.
It might be the largest userbase behind the s5, though granted the wp7 market has a lot less devices overall so it's not as diffucult to not be flooded by millions of devices unlike on android

I gave up waiting for 2.2, I gave up completely for 2.3, I gave up on the update to the streak, I'm GIVING UP on Dell. Samsung note will be my next device when it hits the states.

I think Dell was trying to sell its mobile phones using the same sales model they used when selling PCs. They didn't take into account the many, many more variables that affect mobile phone purchases (carrier first, then platform, then leading edge hardware). They, I think, wrongly assumed, "People are buying alot of Android phones, and since we're Dell, if we make them, people will buy them". Let Dell go back to Microsoft.... I mean they've been in bed together for decades..... Mr. Dell just is reluctant to admit fault.... "We're Dell..... no one is buying our phones so it MUST be Android's fault" LOL
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Who cares BTW if it's Android 1.6 or 2.2. What's the difference?
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It would help if they actually followed the development cycle and released the updates, where is 2.3.3, 2.3.4 and so on?
A device stuck with a older version of the OS is always going to be less popular.

SHildebrandt said:
I think Dell was trying to sell its mobile phones using the same sales model they used when selling PCs. They didn't take into account the many, many more variables that affect mobile phone purchases (carrier first, then platform, then leading edge hardware). They, I think, wrongly assumed, "People are buying alot of Android phones, and since we're Dell, if we make them, people will buy them". Let Dell go back to Microsoft.... I mean they've been in bed together for decades..... Mr. Dell just is reluctant to admit fault.... "We're Dell..... no one is buying our phones so it MUST be Android's fault" LOL
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Yeah, thats exactly it
There is this saying don't hate the player, hate the game. I think. But in this case , its the other way around Yeah, people that cant admit there made a mistake, not updating the software, or at least doing some market hype.
It seems like Dell isn't very appealing because of the style, and its openness to software. Plus , back then Android wasn't that popular that you can could sell a heavy 5" phone, But now days with the right specs, you just watch ...
In short, they are too lazy, There going for the surely win route, I think. Thats why they are going for the Win8 tablet.

Dell must have new PR manager

if dell stepped up the hardware, maybe some IPS, super AMOLED+, 8+MP cam anyone? make Streak 7 a bit thinner.. release with stock Android and get updates out on time, and maybe unlock bootloaders, etc. oh yeah and advertise!! They could be moving units.. Streak 7 likely last piece of anything Dell I own for a good long time..

One thing I will say, however, is my cousin has the Dell WindowsPhone "Venue Pro".... and that phone is truly a THING OF BEAUTY (no kiddin). I've read on more than one reputable site that it may in fact be "the best WindowsPhone available" (believe it or not). Not only is it extremely well-made, but it feels like you could drive nails with it and not hurt it. Such a shame it's running that G-damned lame-as-**** Windows OS.
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SHildebrandt said:
One thing I will say, however, is my cousin has the Dell WindowsPhone "Venue Pro".... and that phone is truly a THING OF BEAUTY (no kiddin). I've read on more than one reputable site that it may in fact be "the best WindowsPhone available" (believe it or not). Not only is it extremely well-made, but it feels like you could drive nails with it and not hurt it. Such a shame it's running that G-damned lame-as-**** Windows OS.
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Personally I will never buy another windows phone. Was very glad of the android transition to revert, even if windows "finally" did something about their quirky, sticky, freezing between processing and my alltime fav "random non-response touchscreen moments".
But Dell F'd up once with bad promo and had monkies doing their PR. Dell f'd a secomd time making the announcement about. "Dell has pulled the streak from its current inventory ...stay tuned for a special announcement.." Leaving us to believe our trusty ole Streaks were called in for some "innerds overhaul" only to hear that its been pulled from the U.S. market.
Dell f'd a third time releasing a DELL STREAK PRO, much smaller screen and device, looks like a cookie-cut replicate of most other phones, lost all its streak5 features.
I am looking for info on how to get my hands on the ViewSonic tab/phone.
Time to put ole Dell out to third-world pastures

Personally my opinion is not one to count on Dell's conscious but here it goes, first of all they didn't even make the product they just slapped their name on it and try to get as many sales as they could two once their product crashed on 2.2 faster than an angry bird into a wall they knew if they didn't pull it they would get a bad name and three dell doesn't care about their customer cause if they did they would admit to making a bad product and see how they can go ahead and fix their problem extend warranties on bad units, fix 2.2 issues an apology for stealing your money oh wait it's not stealing it's business. Okay well from now on Samsung has my business and I will steal from Dell by letting one know everytime they see my Streak "what the hack is that thing" saying the worst investment you can ever make"

@Chamo4u2: Dell's conscience and the fact they only put their name on the Streak aside, I'd like to find out where you get this impression they pulled the Streak because of crashes. Now I've owned a Streak since April. It came with 2.2.2 347 preinstalled. In that time frame I've upgraded the ROM to 351 and 360, after having to reinstall 347 twice due to mistakes I made in tweaking the ROM for my tastes. At no time have I encountered force close issues, thus I don't believe their ROMs are the problem. Since my experience flatly contradicts yours, what is different about your Streak compared to mine?
The Streak was discontinued in the original countries where it was released. Dell has released the Streak in Asian countries this year, meaning for those countries the Streak is new. If the Streak were pulled because of software problems, Dell would not have released it in Asia. Thus your statement that the Streak was pulled due to crashes is demonstrably false.
The Streak is actually a decent device that was saddled with poor marketing decisions made by Dell. Of course this assumes that the Streak was actually marketed, when we know it wasn't. Had Dell put any effort into promoting the Streak in television commercials, had put Streaks in AT&T stores, and had actually sold the device with 2.1 from the start instead of 1.6 we likely would not be having this discussion.
Despite the lack of marketing and despite Michael Dell's comments, apparently Dell does still care about the consumers. As most people reading this forum know, Dell released the sources to a Gingerbread kernel. According to DJ Steve those sources have been in his possession for over a week now. With Dell releasing the kernel, can official Gingerbread ROMs be far behind?
P.S. You've got to work a bit on the punctuation buddy. I almost ignored your post because I had so much difficulty reading it.

can official Gingerbread ROMs be far behind?
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i hope so ive got my streak till march (wifes 18 month contract) & i would like my phone to end its days with gingerbread

I'm with Strephon...... I've had my factory-installed Froyo Streak since last April and it's been one of the most stable Android phones I've ever owned (seriously).... And I've owned EVERY T-Mobile Android phone available (MyTouch Slide, MyTouch 4G, Nexus, G2, LG G2x). I blame the US Streak's downfall on non-existent marketing and offering it carrier-subsidized only on aTnT. Up until they lost iCrap exclusivity, they would actually try and talk new customers out of buying anything Android (I witnessed this myself).....
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I experienced that firsthand, and got so pissed I left the store. If there is one thing I cannot stand it's being lied to, and the AT&T "salesperson" did exactly that in trying to dissuade me from going with Android.

Pledging support for Microsoft and Windows 8,
That's the key phrase there, it means they've done a deal with M$ and knocking Android is a way of passing the buck for their past failure on to Google.

lolwut
slaydog said:
Who cares BTW if it's Android 1.6 or 2.2. What's the difference?
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How are you a senior member? Did you seriously just ask what the difference between 1.6 and 2.2 is?