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HD2 Breaks my Heart

Hey everyone i know that there has been about 20 of these posts and threads about ppl hating or being upset with the HD2, but i feel that i have to post this.
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For a few months now I have been eagerly waiting for HTC to release a USA version of the HD 2 before conforming to apple or android well the dream came through and T-Mobile gets one will all these goods HSDP+ which gives you super fast 3G which is not in my area as of yet but waiting for it to get here but back to the goodies movies really cool apps and preloaded games I have had HTC phones all my live no other phone. But this phone seems so great lack the WP7S which now dropped the S LOL but I could care less for 7 for mobile. What I’m getting to is this phone is a beast with has a lot of potential but the sad truth is that you have to tune this phone for almost every thing to work but then you’ll get bugs regardless what you do its like buying a Ferrari enzo and having to tweak it that just does not make any sense to me. no matter what hardware you have from HTC its always going to miss one thing team work Micro Soft makes this great software that I know can do great things but because there are so many manufactures making devices for them with so many different hardware specs you’ll have issues left and right no matter what you. Hence why there are the Windows the market place and applications for windows mobile sucks so bad developers like Gameloft, EAGames, Capcom and others like fandango and 100s of others don’t take windows mobile devices so serious. i hate to say this but apples device specs don’t match up to what to what windows devices do but because its one device one hardware once manufacture there will always be great games and applications for apple iphone/ipod/ Ipad whatever. i cant expect XDA to make me happy with fixing and making a dedicated team or get other nationwide Developers to see the hd2 for what it is and can do. XDA has too many damn phones to tweak for the world. the HD2 is a great phone for big windows mobile users. i can say im a big htc/widows user but you cant tell me thay sometimes you wish you didnt have to tweak your phone unleast you reallly Have to. too many many companys are in the cell phone game with the same os on them. We will never see the full potentional because its DOA im tired of the rom flashing game. im not moving to apple because they suck and jobs can you know what as for android there in the same page as windows mobile too many wanna bees aka manufactures. ill keep my hd2 because i support htc and windows till thw day i die but know this phone broke my heart like a beautiful chick with a 10 sec memory bank no matter what she wont get it lol if you dont like my thoughts im sry i wasted your time

post you thoughts and comments here maybe some pointers and hits on what to do and if the tmo stock rom is just complete otter garbage

Uhmmm I have a comment.
My brain now hurts from trying to read your ramblings of confusion. Try using capital letters, breaking up your run on sentences, and for gods sake try proof reading your post before throwing it out there for all to see.
Now having said that. They are two different OSs with two different people in mind as users. The iPhone is a child's toy as far as I'm concerned. It's apps are made for 13 year olds that want a phone filled with mostly useless apps. On the other hand you have Windows Mobile which is for people who want to be productive with their time. Maybe get something accomplished while still out of the office. Now I'm not saying the the iPhone doesn't have it share of useful apps it's like I said though two different user bases.
Having a phone with enough power to get almost anything done is nice but yes as usual with any Window product you will have to tweak it to get it to your liking. I'm thankful I have the ability to do this out of the box without having to jailbreak my phone or pay for it. I have not a problem I couldn't solve so far with the phone by coming here and searching the vast amount of information and knowledge.

If you feel better after rambling then it was worth reading your post.

sry about the really bad post lol i didnt have time to proof read it at all had like 10 mins to type it on my phone battery was dying should have just waited now i look like a fool lol sry man

try listing some of the problems that you have been experiencing. a lot of other hd2 owners that i know in person seem to be having the same complaints; freezing, lagging, screen blackout, etc.
this website has helped tremendously in helping with such issues. simple things like using the task manager and a program called "free ram" help the hd2 run smoothly.
on top of that, i found that i can tweak the way i want the phone to operate by turning off certain widgets to save battery life. i also found some great programs such as s2u2 for custom lockscreens, bsb tweaks and co0kie's home tab to make the hd2 run the way i want it to. i.e., enabling pinch ande zoom to skyfire and IE. enabling rotation to google maps, etc.

Darkcloud25 said:
sry about the really bad post lol i didnt have time to proof read it at all had like 10 mins to type it on my phone battery was dying should have just waited now i look like a fool lol sry man
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Who needs periods,commas, or any punctuation marks anyway

It's that not I don't understand the issues but whats the sense of making a post if it makes no sense. Take a breath slow down and explain your actual issues. Many of them can simple be solved by using a rom that actually works. I have yet to use a stock rom that works right out of the box. Load a custom rom and it's a whole new phone. Yes custom roms are not without problems but most times they're little compared to the bloat that comes with stock roms.

Ok one i get random device.exe fail and other programs fail giving me that Microsoft error ...exe fail. For instances Opera, FPSECE 10, Morph Gear and the Camera gives me the same .exe Microsoft error. Also the music tab takes ages to load my music from the memory card . One more thing even after using Chainfires 3D drivers 1.1 and TX 3d Performance update than preloaded game Ferrari GT evolution lags so bad man. All of these problems repeat their self even after a hard reset. Oh and Chill with the spelling and all this I’m puzzled from reading my post I’m pretty sure I made my self clear onto why it looks that way ether help me or just keep it moving.

Try lossing the stock rom and that will solve a good bit of your issues. Also might want to make sure you have .NetFramework 3.5 installed.

Simple. First, lose the stock rom. Next, move the racing game from the sd card to the phone memory. Tada.
There are much bigger problems than the easily solvable problems you mention (my sig comes to mind). No reason for you to complain!

Again wisdom, the problem lies with the OS and Hardware, i dont think HTC and WM will ever take advantage of the specific hardware in our devices for the sole reason that there too many differences. Why do you think the iphone runs so smooth...well think about it an OS designed for its proprietary hardware/software, the OS is taking full advantage of the hardware's efficiency. But with proprietary software comes a drawback, developers need to redesign there software to run on that specific device, this is where i think WM wins because its OS architecture has been out for so long being its universal capabilities with hardware where else apple likes to stick to there own s**t, well thats dandy and all but it doesn't work all that well with developers that started off with windows for so many years, so now we need new developers to start fresh. look at all the apps not on the marketplace that have been out for years..apple doesn't come close, the marketplace just makes it easyier for our users today to find what they need, "Competition". please correct me if im wrong but this is my view. I always thought about this for example take your PC's hardware running Windows and tell a game developer to design a game to your specific hardware and OS, just imagine the performance difference to a universal platform game, thats why alot of games designed for an apple computer run most of the time 50% to 100% better then the same game on windows pc without having to upgrade your videocard... Im still waiting for the day that the hardware in our HTC WM devices are matched perfectly with the correct/proper drivers! My HD2 which you bought for me is fast as hell, but just imagine how much faster it can be...This is just my 2 cents.

Wil Badger said:
Uhmmm I have a comment.
My brain now hurts from trying to read your ramblings of confusion. Try using capital letters, breaking up your run on sentences, and for gods sake try proof reading your post before throwing it out there for all to see.
Now having said that. They are two different OSs with two different people in mind as users. The iPhone is a child's toy as far as I'm concerned. It's apps are made for 13 year olds that want a phone filled with mostly useless apps. On the other hand you have Windows Mobile which is for people who want to be productive with their time. Maybe get something accomplished while still out of the office. Now I'm not saying the the iPhone doesn't have it share of useful apps it's like I said though two different user bases.
Having a phone with enough power to get almost anything done is nice but yes as usual with any Window product you will have to tweak it to get it to your liking. I'm thankful I have the ability to do this out of the box without having to jailbreak my phone or pay for it. I have not a problem I couldn't solve so far with the phone by coming here and searching the vast amount of information and knowledge.
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Lol. Made my brain hurt too!

Wil Badger said:
Uhmmm I have a comment.
My brain now hurts from trying to read your ramblings of confusion. Try using capital letters, breaking up your run on sentences, and for gods sake try proof reading your post before throwing it out there for all to see.
Now having said that. They are two different OSs with two different people in mind as users. The iPhone is a child's toy as far as I'm concerned. It's apps are made for 13 year olds that want a phone filled with mostly useless apps. On the other hand you have Windows Mobile which is for people who want to be productive with their time. Maybe get something accomplished while still out of the office. Now I'm not saying the the iPhone doesn't have it share of useful apps it's like I said though two different user bases.
Having a phone with enough power to get almost anything done is nice but yes as usual with any Window product you will have to tweak it to get it to your liking. I'm thankful I have the ability to do this out of the box without having to jailbreak my phone or pay for it. I have not a problem I couldn't solve so far with the phone by coming here and searching the vast amount of information and knowledge.
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You still understood what he was saying did you not? We all have are strong and weak points. Your reply would have been fine without "My brain now hurts from trying to read your ramblings of confusion. Try using capital letters, breaking up your run on sentences, and for gods sake try proof reading your post before throwing it out there for all to see". Let's not be rude

Hey it was just one more suggestion to help solve his problem. Nothing like speaking clearly and being able to get the point across. Do you like to talk to somebody who mumbles under their breath all day. Do you like to talk to somebody who incoherently babbles? I doubt you do. No different here, I have no problem helping people, I have no problem trying to figure out what somebody is saying but when it's a complete paragraph of gibberish there is not much I can do. I could understand if he was some where in Europe and English was not his primary language.

Wil Badger said:
Hey it was just one more suggestion to help solve his problem. Nothing like speaking clearly and being able to get the point across. Do you like to talk to somebody who mumbles under their breath all day. Do you like to talk to somebody who incoherently babbles? I doubt you do. No different here, I have no problem helping people, I have no problem trying to figure out what somebody is saying but when it's a complete paragraph of gibberish there is not much I can do. I could understand if he was some where in Europe and English was not his primary language.
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I understand your logic, but you understood him enough to answer him. Why embarrass him? But I'm sure that wasn't your intention. Let's all just help each other out in harmony that's all i am getting at.

Wil Badger said:
Hey it was just one more suggestion to help solve his problem. Nothing like speaking clearly and being able to get the point across. Do you like to talk to somebody who mumbles under their breath all day. Do you like to talk to somebody who incoherently babbles? I doubt you do. No different here, I have no problem helping people, I have no problem trying to figure out what somebody is saying but when it's a complete paragraph of gibberish there is not much I can do. I could understand if he was some where in Europe and English was not his primary language.
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Thanks for you help, but as for the "Do you like to talk to somebody who mumbles under their breath all day.” I didn’t know that you can hear me. Now you sound like you need help when you read you not hearing if you need help there are classes that can help you with that issue your having: D. as for the English languish there has been tests and experiments that if the spelling or how the sentence, paragraph ect. Is written does not mean that you cant understand. Here take a look http://forums.techarena.in/off-topic-chat/1205040.htm: D but hey thanks and ive been editing, tweaking& flashing roms for about 3 yrs now. im just tired of doing it just want a phone that works that’s not apple or android, but again yes thanks for the help.

Wil Badger said:
The iPhone is a child's toy as far as I'm concerned. It's apps are made for 13 year olds that want a phone filled with mostly useless apps. .
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OMAAAGAAAA.... ur serious? Iphone is the greatest phone ever period.. apps for child's? LOL go to the apps store and u would find 200 bucks and up apps and u telling me they are for child's.. Doctors use iphones... why? cause the apps ... medical apps! http://www.softwareadvice.com/artic...ne-apps-for-doctors-and-med-students-1100709/
im a owner of a HTC HD2 too and his totally right.. windows is plain crap craaaaaaaaap.. it destroyed this beautiful phone...
LOL @ iphones are for child's.... LMAO
u obviously a iphone hater....... and yes i went back to my 3GS

Wil Badger said:
Hey it was just one more suggestion to help solve his problem. Nothing like speaking clearly and being able to get the point across. Do you like to talk to somebody who mumbles under their breath all day. Do you like to talk to somebody who incoherently babbles? I doubt you do. No different here, I have no problem helping people, I have no problem trying to figure out what somebody is saying but when it's a complete paragraph of gibberish there is not much I can do. I could understand if he was some where in Europe and English was not his primary language.
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JUST STFU!!!!!!!!

At least this thread is good for one thing, getting a good laugh.
And yes I do hate Apple with a passion. You like it so much go buy an iPhone and STFU yourself. I never said every app was childish or made for children I simply said they are marketed more towards children or should I say the simple minded. Hence it is a child's toy.

HTC HD2 & Android

To all the gurus here at XDA I am getting the HTC EVO 4g tomorrow, but I really don't like the carrier for this amazing unit so I am considering bring it back since I like Tmobile better. My question is, if I purchase the HD2 and root it will i be able to load Android 2.1 in it?
Please advise
Thanks to all of you in advance

Please read the forum posts for this.

at the moment u cant load android on the hd2!
dcordes and the other guys who r working on the "linux on htc hd2" project made a functional kernel but there isnt a working android version yet. it will take a while until they will get android on it. i really dont know how much time it will take but it could take 1 year more or less i think.

It could be a very long time before there's a port thats as functional as a phone made for android. There still isn't a perfect android port for any winmo phone yet, and some of them have had android being developed for years. If you want to use android full time, get an android phone, not a winmo phone. Even if there's a bootable port soon for the hd2, it won't be very functional and wont be able to use some of the phones hardware (bluetooth, wifi, camera, etc). I'm not expecting a fully functional port for a year or 2.... if ever.

Sorry for my ignorance, what will i be able to do by rooting this hd2, i really don't like windows mobile

do some research!!!

Going to start swearing at people soon,
Surely if Android had made it on to the HD2 it would have been all over the NET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You can somehow manage to put your new EVO hardware into a HD2 body and there you go you got the first full funciton running Android HD2.
Not even if you search here you could get answer but you could even google and it will direct you here.

riverajuan said:
Sorry for my ignorance, what will i be able to do by rooting this hd2, i really don't like windows mobile
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You are confusing a lot of things here. You can't root a windows mobile phone the way you mean for Android. What you can do is to install an SPL or Hard SPL that allows you the flixibility to load up customised roms, ie customised windows operating systems, onto your winmobile device, ie HD2.
You have got a lot of reading ahead of you before you can make any sort of decision and start to do things to your phone that could seriously injure its health! The first decision you need to make is whether you want to go down the Android route or Winmobile.
Once you have the answer to this you can start to do your research and learning in the appropriate fora.
Hope this helps.
Moving this to General/Q&A.
WB

shut up!!!!!!
i'm realley getting annoyed of this threads.
can't there be a filter for apple, iphone, and android

SEARCH GOD DAMN IT

riverajuan said:
To all the gurus here at XDA I am getting the HTC EVO 4g tomorrow, but I really don't like the carrier for this amazing unit so I am considering bring it back since I like Tmobile better. My question is, if I purchase the HD2 and root it will i be able to load Android 2.1 in it?
Please advise
Thanks to all of you in advance
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I refuse to answer your question because of this - CLICK ON THIS LINK

eenbox said:
I refuse to answer your question because of this - CLICK ON THIS LINK
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THANKYOU, thats made my day...

Can we help unlock the nand ?!

is it just a case of brute force ?! if so, are there programmes we can run to help crunch the numbers ?!

I don't know for a fact really, but from what I gathered it's just a choice to do it this way.
The system itself stays in this way untouched.

ignore v

mda4man said:
what is the matter with people like you. stop creating pointless threads, you don't no what the hell your talking about so just shut up and let the developers work on it
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Give him a break... Imho, this is way better than the 100th thread like "Why can't we flash to Nand, yet, when is it gonna be done?". He obviously doesn't know how it has to be done technically (neither do I, btw) and therefore, he is asking if he/others can help. I don't see why this is so bad.
I am curious myself about what's the "fuzz" behind the whole nand thing, just because it's interesting and because I want to learn new stuff. But because of reactions like yours, I have been afraid to ask anywhere if someone could explain in a couple of sentences what has to be done in order to get Nand access...

NAND does not consider to be an important development for now. But rather focus on stability such as battery, CPU suspend, bugs etc...

But look at how out of control this forum has got, its suppose to be for development read the title.
in very simple terms the nand is what boots our windows mobile operating system. Right now we are launching our android builds through windows mobile on a linux kernel on our sd card. Once we have access to the nand android will become our operating system effectively. This means that when we turn our phone off then on it will be Android windows mobile will cease to exist. There is absolutely nothing us normal people can do riyght now to aid nand development. Cotulla is working on this and will update us with his progress next month. Until then all you need to no is people want nand porting because the Android os Will run quicker and more stable then when on the SD card

mda4man said:
But look at how out of control this forum has got, its suppose to be for development read the title.
in very simple terms the nand is what boots our windows mobile operating system. Right now we are launching our android builds through windows mobile on a linux kernel on our sd card. Once we have access to the nand android will become our operating system effectively. This means that when we turn our phone off then on it will be Android windows mobile will cease to exist. There is absolutely nothing us normal people can do riyght now to aid nand development. Cotulla is working on this and will update us with his progress next month. Until then all you need to no is people want nand porting because the Android os Will run quicker and more stable then when on the SD card
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I think, this time, the OP was asking specificaly about the NAND's encryption and whether we could help with 'unlocking' that.
I dunno, but I think thats what he meant.
anyway, i dont think this was the usual "when will NAND be ready?" thread.
Maybe his question could even be considered a valid one...if a little vague.

mda4man said:
But look at how out of control this forum has got, its suppose to be for development read the title.
in very simple terms the nand is what boots our windows mobile operating system. Right now we are launching our android builds through windows mobile on a linux kernel on our sd card. Once we have access to the nand android will become our operating system effectively. This means that when we turn our phone off then on it will be Android windows mobile will cease to exist. There is absolutely nothing us normal people can do riyght now to aid nand development. Cotulla is working on this and will update us with his progress next month. Until then all you need to no is people want nand porting because the Android os Will run quicker and more stable then when on the SD card
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I think you've misinterpreted him he was asking of there was any way that he/we could help in the nand area, ok he may of posted in a not so normal manner & may have been better pming deb's but at least he is offering something instead of the constant "I want" "I need" "why can't I" type of thread.

i doubt this'll be of any use but i used to own an ATT Tilt (still do but my lover is in about 4 pieces of mechanical fail). I don't know if the HD2 has locked NAND or if you were looking to just replace Windows with Android (or preferably iOS4 which is clearly superior). I wasn't on Team Edward (or was it Jacob) that made the flashable NAND. I would suggest you ask them.
Here's a great guide on it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=680518
and I'd talk to the devs that got that going because they rock

enatefox said:
i doubt this'll be of any use but i used to own an ATT Tilt (still do but my lover is in about 4 pieces of mechanical fail). I don't know if the HD2 has locked NAND or if you were looking to just replace Windows with Android (or preferably iOS4 which is clearly superior). I wasn't on Team Edward (or was it Jacob) that made the flashable NAND. I would suggest you ask them.
Here's a great guide on it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=680518
and I'd talk to the devs that got that going because they rock
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Oh wow! Now I would love to see and iOS4 ROM for my HD2. That would be pure sweetness!

11calcal said:
I think you've misinterpreted him he was asking of there was any way that he/we could help in the nand area, ok he may of posted in a not so normal manner & may have been better pming deb's but at least he is offering something instead of the constant "I want" "I need" "why can't I" type of thread.
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EXACTLY IMO anyway....
enatefox: what?
and are we even allowed to mention ios4 on xda

enatefox said:
or preferably iOS4 which is clearly superior
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Diasagree
iOS:
-> Extremely closed code
-> Still no real multitasking
-> No embedded Flash
-> Sucking UI for dorks
-> Nearly no UI modding possible

enatefox said:
i doubt this'll be of any use but i used to own an ATT Tilt (still do but my lover is in about 4 pieces of mechanical fail). I don't know if the HD2 has locked NAND or if you were looking to just replace Windows with Android (or preferably iOS4 which is clearly superior). I wasn't on Team Edward (or was it Jacob) that made the flashable NAND. I would suggest you ask them.
Here's a great guide on it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=680518
and I'd talk to the devs that got that going because they rock
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iOS4 on HD2? is that even theoretically possible?

personally i dont give a donkeys 3rd leg if its possible or even probable. If a i0s4 rom was even thought up for the hd2, i would proceed to run my hd2 over with the heaviest item i could find, and then go buy a nexus, for which no one would even think of making an apple rom

I will point out I was kidding about iOS4 but unfortunately not about my broken Tilt =/
So anyhoo Tilt/Kaiser/Vogue devs got flashable Android on their Windows phones and I posted the link to the guide. I'd track them down (clearly with gps-based superdrones) and ask them for memory addresses, etc. you'd need to pull it off.
Also, I watched kingofyo1 boot an iPhone4 with both hands. I told him "hombre, you don't need both hands" and he made some crass remark about how it felt more natural. Or maybe I just made that up.. could've been g1bricked

enatefox said:
I will point out I was kidding about iOS4 but unfortunately not about my broken Tilt =/
So anyhoo Tilt/Kaiser/Vogue devs got flashable Android on their Windows phones and I posted the link to the guide. I'd track them down (clearly with gps-based superdrones) and ask them for memory addresses, etc. you'd need to pull it off.
Also, I watched kingofyo1 boot an iPhone4 with both hands. I told him "hombre, you don't need both hands" and he made some crass remark about how it felt more natural. Or maybe I just made that up.. could've been g1bricked
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yeah, probably g1bricked... only time ive held an iphone 4 was when one of my teachers was showin it off... i played with it for a sec, then told him it was total **** and he needed to sell it and get an android device... he promptly aced me for informing him about android

mda4man said:
But look at how out of control this forum has got, its suppose to be for development read the title.
in very simple terms the nand is what boots our windows mobile operating system. Right now we are launching our android builds through windows mobile on a linux kernel on our sd card. Once we have access to the nand android will become our operating system effectively. This means that when we turn our phone off then on it will be Android windows mobile will cease to exist. There is absolutely nothing us normal people can do riyght now to aid nand development. Cotulla is working on this and will update us with his progress next month. Until then all you need to no is people want nand porting because the Android os Will run quicker and more stable then when on the SD card
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I totally agree with you that in total, the forum could be much less filled with threads/posts that are not necessary if people actually read some FAQ or such.
But I think you really misunderstood what the OP (and maybe even I) was saying. Thanks for your explanation, but I was hoping for a little bit more of a technical explanation as to why there is no easy Nand access, yet. I am well aware of what it is and what it does (and what the benefits are of running Android from Nand), I was just curious about the underlying process of the "unlocking" (or whatever the correct technical term is). Is there an encryption to be broken, a "file system" to be imitated? Like I said before, I just ask these question because I think it's interesting to know, not in order to push anyone. I bought the HD2 as it is and I'm more than happy with anything that's being done with it
I think the OP was thinking about something like putting together computing resources, since he was talking about BruteForce.

considering i am a iphone owner and apart of there jailbreak community ,
i will honestly say that if this was the iphone forum where people didnt respect the rules , the jailbreak or unlock would never get released ..thats what they wait for , just how we wait for this android on nand , ..and when they do release it takes them months to prepair and maybe longer to create but its ,eaiser for them because there are always beta ios's coming out for them to see what they nedd to do , so ...either which a way ....leave it to the dev's

thatruth132 said:
considering i am a iphone owner and apart of there jailbreak community ,
i will honestly say that if this was the iphone forum where people didnt respect the rules , the jailbreak or unlock would never get released ..thats what they wait for , just how we wait for this android on nand , ..and when they do release it takes them months to prepair and maybe longer to create but its ,eaiser for them because there are always beta ios's coming out for them to see what they nedd to do , so ...either which a way ....leave it to the dev's
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Ummm....
I'm sorely confused by the shoddy punctuation of your post (?). Something about an Android living on an island called Nand, easier development for iOS (??), and disrespectful Apple forum trolls (???).
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Stripping Windows Mobile off the HD2 would be cool, but if you don't wan't Windows Mobile, why would you buy the highest end phone offered that has it? It would have been more logical to buy one of the dozens of Android phones on the market.
~Jasecloud4

jasecloud4 said:
Ummm....
I'm sorely confused by the shoddy punctuation of your post (?). Something about an Android living on an island called Nand, easier development for iOS (??), and disrespectful Apple forum trolls (???).
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Stripping Windows Mobile off the HD2 would be cool, but if you don't wan't Windows Mobile, why would you buy the highest end phone offered that has it? It would have been more logical to buy one of the dozens of Android phones on the market.
~Jasecloud4
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well i got my hd2 for free so thats why i have one and using it for android
i do have bad punctuation , but basically what i was say was a reply to some one else post..i am backing off this thread ...bout to go make some runs need a new motherboard for my pc

Interested In Android?

I have been running Froyo for three days now as my primary phone Operating System. Although NAND is not available and may never be for the HD2, 99.9% of everyday functionality is.
At this moment, the only thing I can think of that doesn't work is WiFi tethering, which is not a big deal for me.
I thought about writing a tutorial along the same lines as my others; a simple, step-by-step method for locating, downloading, installing and running Android on our T-Mobile US HD2, but I am not sure that there is enough interest here.
Before anyone points out that there are such tuts over on the Leo forum, I would like to mention that they are poorly written and confusing for a complete newbie. I believe that I can do a much better job myself.
If I get 10 positive responses to this thread, whether by poll or by reply, I will write the tut. Negative responses will not count, but are welcome.

I think a simple step by step walk through is a great idea!
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newbie in need
I will jump on this band wagon...I would love to see a step by step guide to Android for my HD2 t-mobile us. I just got a 32g sandisc and thought about using my original 16g for Android. Can you advise me?
Thanks for the thread

I have already installed android myself. Was alot of reading before I felt comfortable to try. You are right, the documentation in the Leo HD2 forum can be overwhelming. Give it a go, I am sure it will be appreciated!
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I voted yes.. I was curious: what is the difference between running android on a normal hd2 vs the tmobile hd2? I just flashed a bios and radio on my us tmobile and I was about to attempt to run FroyoStone_Sense.

Android????
I thought about doing the android on hd2, but like you said, it seems to confusing, and dangerous, i don't want to brick my phone, and would i have to use another sd card just to run android on my phone. I am just safe running spb mobile shell along with htc sense that came with my hd2, i don't know, help me.

yes
yes - i would be interested in a tut for the tmo hd2

I think it's a great idea... Reading is important, but a lot of people here aren't that technical and I think that they do get lost in some of the verbiage used in the posts...

Please
I personally would greatly appreciate it. I fried my first HD2 playing with Android a few weeks ago. HTC was kind enough to send me a replacement unit. Long story short I would prefer not to make the same mistakes.

Good Idea
I think its a good idea i learned years ago how to flash phones and create different partitions on your sd card for different roms, but i did jack up my fair share of sd cards during the process, luckily never a phone lol. I think it would be good for other people to not have the same amount of issues. Been running android for months on my HD2 tried every flavor, but with recent releases it is finally good enough for everyday use.

Thanks!
Thanks to everyone who responded! The results were overwhelmingly positive, all the replies were "yes" and all but 1 of the 18 polled agreed as well.
As promised, I will start the tut immediately (flashing my phone now and will re-install Android in a bit to ensure I have the steps right) and it should be up this evening or tomorrow morning.
Moderators: Please feel free to lock this thread out and let it die, it has served its purpose

can't wait to try it out. Anyway to backup the current phone before flashing to android?

dotNet07 said:
can't wait to try it out. Anyway to backup the current phone before flashing to android?
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We aren't "flashing" per se. Your Phone's ROM is untouched, you just install and run Android from the SD card. When Android starts, most of Windows Mobile is shut down (I'm not 100% sure of the whole process, sorry) and Linux is loaded, which runs Android. If it helps, you could think of it as full-screen Emulator, but Android takes over fully.
I sync to Google via Exchange (see my sig for the link on how to do it yourself) and when I switched to Android, my contacts were also added along with the FB stuff that I added back in Sense on WinMo.
By the way, this thread is officially dead. I did indeed write the tutorial and it's in my sig as a link as well.
Hope this helps!

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(can?)Android in Samsung omnia 7 i8700

Is possible change my O.S WP7.5 ..??? .. i like android.. please helpme !!

Bro, do you want a ferrari with lamborghini motor? Why? Maybe you should sell Omnia and buy a Galaxy S, but i can believe you bought a WP desiring putting android os, its a shame this...

sepultombed said:
Is possible change my O.S WP7.5 ..??? .. i like android.. please helpme !!
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Go jump off a cliff. Please!
Or use your remaining single brain cell to realise maybe you should sell your Omnia7 and get an Android for whatever reason.

mmm
pLUSpISTOL said:
Go jump off a cliff. Please!
Or use your remaining single brain cell to realise maybe you should sell your Omnia7 and get an Android for whatever reason.
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... your brain need jump off a cliff... android is a linux distro.. and .. i believe.. can accommodate any cell-phones.. with work...

sepultombed said:
... your brain need jump off a cliff... android is a linux distro.. and .. i believe.. can accommodate any cell-phones.. with work...
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Sorry dude but it's not even possible to boot Linux on WP7 handsets yet, let alone boot into a usable version of Android. It might happen in the future but it will take a very long time, drivers need to be developed and it does indeed take a lot of work - probably too much for the Omnia7.
If you really want to use Android, move to an Android handset good luck to ye.

pLUSpISTOL said:
Sorry dude but it's not even possible to boot Linux on WP7 handsets yet, let alone boot into a usable version of Android. It might happen in the future but it will take a very long time, drivers need to be developed and it does indeed take a lot of work - probably too much for the Omnia7.
If you really want to use Android, move to an Android handset good luck to ye.
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ok.. thanks man.. i believe.. osama bin laden can helpme in this.

Lighten up....
Jeez..... I just came from a similar thread in the Development section asking the question about Android on the Omnia7.
This forum used to feel like a place to come to ask innocent questions and we used to get reasonable answers, whether the idea was possible or not.
Now we seem to have the school bullies, all grown up and becoming XDA Senior Members.
I too was caught up in the WP7 24 month contract fiasco with a Wndows7 phone (Omnia7) that's seen no movement from Microsoft for ages. I'd love to buy an Android top of the line phone (SS2), but £500 for an Android phone with a year to go on the WP7 contract? So it makes sense to ask about Android on the Omnia7, right?
I bought an Orange San Francisco 2, headed over to Modaco, an hour later I had an unlocked, unbranded, clean Android phone to use with my year left SIM on the WP7 provider. Not everyone can afford to do this. That's why they come to you.
I read a thread over at Modaco written by an ex-XDA developer who spoke of the vibe this site has now. I'm still a little shocked to find he/she was right.
If any of you feel self important enough, then flame away. For those of you that want answers to your questions without the brow beating, there are lots of other forums out there.
Peace

xpc21 said:
Bro, do you want a ferrari with lamborghini motor? Why? Maybe you should sell Omnia and buy a Galaxy S, but i can believe you bought a WP desiring putting android os, its a shame this...
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Why to shame...... See HD2.... It has an ICS update (unofficial)!
Its not necessary to have android update to every phone... But omnia has a goof hardware!!!

OutaDaDark said:
I too was caught up in the WP7 24 month contract fiasco with a Wndows7 phone (Omnia7) that's seen no movement from Microsoft for ages. I'd love to buy an Android top of the line phone (SS2), but £500 for an Android phone with a year to go on the WP7 contract? So it makes sense to ask about Android on the Omnia7, right?
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No, it doesn't make sense. You bought in to a closed platform, and granted you have a brain, you knew your contract would last for 24 months.

OutaDaDark said:
This forum used to feel like a place to come to ask innocent questions and we used to get reasonable answers, whether the idea was possible or not.
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The OP DID get a reasonable answer. Why in gods name would he buy Omnia if he wanted android, with Galaxy S available? It a pretty stupid thing to do, and pointing out the stupidity of that act is justified.
OutaDaDark said:
I too was caught up in the WP7 24 month contract fiasco with a Windows7 phone (Omnia7) that's seen no movement from Microsoft for ages. I'd love to buy an Android top of the line phone (SS2), but £500 for an Android phone with a year to go on the WP7 contract? So it makes sense to ask about Android on the Omnia7, right?
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This whole paragraph makes no sense whatsoever. What are you trying to say? You can't upgrade a phone's hardware! And hw is not microsofts responsibility.
OutaDaDark said:
If any of you feel self important enough, then flame away. For those of you that want answers to your questions without the brow beating, there are lots of other forums out there.
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The thing is, WP was NEVER number one i HW. Android was much further along all the time. People who buy WP do so because of the OS. Wanting than to change that OS is ridiculous. If you invest hundreds or thousands of dollars (counting subscriptions) in something, SOME beforehand information should be necessary, no?

Read the message, not between the lines......
irlju said:
No, it doesn't make sense. You bought in to a closed platform, and granted you have a brain, you knew your contract would last for 24 months.
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Of course I knew it was a 24 month contract!! But I didn't know it would go virtually unsupported by MS/Samsung!! I bought a Win7 phone mainly for work, when Android support for the ever evolving MSOffice format was shaky.
I had a Win6.1 HTC Touch Diamond2 a while ago, which, through THIS site, I was able to dual-boot with Android. With your attitude, would this be possible now??
'....and granted you have a brain', ..... yet another sarcastic throwaway bully irrelevance...
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d.a.v.o.r said:
The OP DID get a reasonable answer. Why in gods name would he buy Omnia if he wanted android, with Galaxy S available? It a pretty stupid thing to do, and pointing out the stupidity of that act is justified.
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... it's obvious from the OP's question, he didn't want Android when he bought the WP7 phone. Me personally, after moving from a relatively open Win6.1/6.5 system, I was shocked by the Apple style Win7 lockdown ....
This whole paragraph makes no sense whatsoever. What are you trying to say? You can't upgrade a phone's hardware! And hw is not microsofts responsibility.
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Where do you get this from?? READ THE MESSAGE!! This is nothing to do with phone hardware. I just knew there'd be someone to come to show me the way.
The thing is, WP was NEVER number one i HW. Android was much further along all the time. People who buy WP do so because of the OS. Wanting than to change that OS is ridiculous. If you invest hundreds or thousands of dollars (counting subscriptions) in something, SOME beforehand information should be necessary, no?
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THIS whole paragraph makes no sense whatsoever. As I said in a previous reply:
'I had a Win6.1 HTC Touch Diamond2 a while ago, which, through THIS site, I was able to dual-boot with Android. With your attitude, would this be possible now??'.....
Look, if you're as old as me, you'll remember the Cosworth engine. When the engine was first unveiled, every man & his dog, at least thought, about dropping a Cosworth engine into anything from a Mini to a MiniBus. Whether immediately evident or not, the possibility was explored, sometimes very successfully. Lots of nay sayers were proved wrong, then as now.....
I liken Android to that Cosworth engine. If the AMENABLE geniuses over at XDA Car Development held my hand, damn, I'd sure as hell give it a go, squeezing a Cosworth engine into my Skoda
So put down the gun, son. This ain't no fight, just someone asking a question or two...
Peace

WP is way more secure than Android or iOS is hence one of the reason it is so hard to put another OS on it on top of the need of individual drivers....you can't compare Windows Mobile(essential the Android of back in the day) and Windows Phone it was basically a total rewrite of the system and WP8 will do it again.

Underdog vs Overdog....
Understood chicagolive.
I think the OP thought, as do I, that most 'smartphones' nowadays are much like PCs. A base system built with the necessary hardware to drive it's peripherals (screen, keyboard, sound chips etc), that can be accessed by the OS installed in device RAM. In the case of a PC, though most machines seem to come with the mighty Microsoft OS, alternative OSs such as Linux, IBM OS2/Warp, Unix or even MacOS, in some form, can be readily installed.
This was the reason I became so intrigued by the XDA Community when I learned what these amazing hobbyists could do, often putting the original manufacturers efforts to shame, and all just because the possibility existed.
So to answer the OPs question:
"Is possible change my O.S WP7.5 ..??? .. i like android.. please helpme !! "
"Anything is possible. Whether a machine is popular enough to warrant the attention needed by our community of backroom geniuses is the issue."
To be given an answer:
"Go jump off a cliff. Please! Or use your remaining single brain cell to realise maybe you should sell your Omnia7 and get an Android for whatever reason."
.. on a site I've come to respect over the years, is downright rude, an answer obviously not given by any of the community that actually does the work required to realise the enormous possibilities of our devices.
... then again maybe it's just because I hate bullies.....
Keep up the great work XDA!!
Peace

ok
The reason I use the omnia 7 is because I gave it away .. I just wanted to see the possibility of changing the system to android, but apparently it is not possible .. okay .. as a human being has the ability to adapt .. I did a jailbreak and the system .. so all ok .. thanks anyway ..

i think is impossble