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OK.....People on and creators of this forum automatically assume that everyone knows what all of these terms and different words are? Speaking for myself only, I am patent my self as being a pretty smart guy I am in college and I have a pretty decent GPA, but I play football and study marketing. I dont know nor do I have to figure out how to do flash my phone etc. Is there not a cab or a simple way to get android on the HD2. I currently have the Samsung Vibrant and HD2 and are torn between the 2. I want the HD2 hardware but like the vibrant software. Is there not a simple way or can I pay someone in the Dallas TX area to put a WORKING version of Android on my phone. Or is there a simple way step by step broken down lamest terms way to do this. I am overwhelmed with all of the stuff on this website. I know i can probably sit down and read and figure out how to do all of this but I dont have the time nor patience. I JUST WANT THE WORKING ANDROID ON MY DEVICE. CAN SOME ONE PLEASE HELP ME???????????i WILL PAY SOMEONE
At this time, Android on the HD2 is neither worth your time, or patience. The reason I say that is because pretty much every build is nothing like a native device; it will have bugs, freezes, etc.
Either you invest some time, and a little patience, or just spend the money on Android native.
Good luck!
Well you should reconsider the "pretty smart guy" part.
There is a stickied thread ★★★The Definitve Guide To Android On HTC HD2 ★★★ which cant be easier to understand.
If you cant make it following this super easy guide, you should buy native ANDROID device or just use your winmo.
KowboyBebop said:
Well you should reconsider the "pretty smart guy" part.
There is a stickied thread ★★★The Definitve Guide To Android On HTC HD2 ★★★ which cant be easier to understand.
If you cant make it following this super easy guide, you should buy native ANDROID device or just use your winmo.
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The subliminal criticism isnt necessary homie...chill out
lockb05 said:
OK.....People on and creators of this forum automatically assume that everyone knows what all of these terms and different words are? Speaking for myself only, I am patent my self as being a pretty smart guy I am in college and I have a pretty decent GPA, but I play football and study marketing. I dont know nor do I have to figure out how to do flash my phone etc. Is there not a cab or a simple way to get android on the HD2. I currently have the Samsung Vibrant and HD2 and are torn between the 2. I want the HD2 hardware but like the vibrant software. Is there not a simple way or can I pay someone in the Dallas TX area to put a WORKING version of Android on my phone. Or is there a simple way step by step broken down lamest terms way to do this. I am overwhelmed with all of the stuff on this website. I know i can probably sit down and read and figure out how to do all of this but I dont have the time nor patience. I JUST WANT THE WORKING ANDROID ON MY DEVICE. CAN SOME ONE PLEASE HELP ME???????????i WILL PAY SOMEONE
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For being "a pretty smart" guy you've got horrible spelling and grammar.
You say you are patient but contradict yourself in the same post by saying "I dont have the time nor patience."
I didn't know any of terms used here last week, but as someone said earlier the instructions xda provides is more than enough to understand whats going on. Just use your brain and read. Otherwise, just get a real android phone.
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For being "a pretty smart" guy you've got horrible spelling and grammar.
You say you are patient but contradict yourself in the same post by saying "I dont have the time nor patience."
I didn't know any of terms used here last week, but as someone said earlier the instructions xda provides is more than enough to understand whats going on. Just use your brain and read. Otherwise, just get a real android phone.
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I said I "patent"(maybe grammar and spelling isnt your thing either) my self on being a pretty smart guy, meaning I dont know everything......Computers is one of my weak points ..... I just want android homie Im not trying to waste my time bickering with someone online I got waaaaaaay more important things to do like studying and making good grades on this FULL scholarship I have, and whether my grammar and spelling is perfect or not Im about to have a degree and graduate school with 0 loans and when I get drafted Im sure I can get some one to put android on my hd2.
lets say I do all those steps posted in those links....does android work good yet? All those steps and stuff overwhelm me
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I said I "patent"(maybe grammar and spelling isnt your thing either) my self on being a pretty smart guy, meaning I dont know everything......Computers is one of my weak points ..... I just want android homie Im not trying to waste my time bickering with someone online I got waaaaaaay more important things to do like studying and making good grades on this FULL scholarship I have, and whether my grammar and spelling is perfect or not Im about to have a degree and graduate school with 0 loans and when I get drafted Im sure I can get some one to put android on my hd2.
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Actually, grammar and spelling is my thing. I'm a court reporter, and when I see your post it drives me bananas. You should seriously focus more on your schooling.
So, let me get this straight...
You want android on your phone, but you don't want to do anything? Think about that for a second.
Nobody here can help you because you are basically asking someone to physically do it for you. The guides provided on this website are more than enough.
As I stated before, I didn't even know what a ROM was last week. If you are so impatient, then just move on. This is not for the computer illiterate.
First thing I'm doing to say: Don't rush into it. I've put down some simple steps, but learn a bit about each stage before you do it. I'm not going to accept responsibility if you do something wrong.
Step 1: HSPL your device. Follow this guide with this HSPL.
Step 2: Flash a radio. I'm using 2.12.50.02_2.
Step 3: Download an Android build. I use Darkstone Froyo v1 with Cotulla's latest zImage (as of 03/08 [DD/MM])..
Step 4: Stick the build on your SD card, and replace the old zImage with the new one.
Step 5: Via WM, run clrcad (nothing will show up, it's normal) and then haret.
how do we install apps like keyboard apks in hd2 android builds?
i cant find the answer on the forum..
Put the apk on your SD card and use the app "File Manager" to locate and run the file.
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Put the apk on your SD card and use the app "File Manager" to locate and run the file.
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yup, finally figured it out.. i was actually wondering where in the sd card to put the file..
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OK.....People on and creators of this forum automatically assume that everyone knows what all of these terms and different words are? Speaking for myself only, I am patent my self as being a pretty smart guy I am in college and I have a pretty decent GPA, but I play football and study marketing. I dont know nor do I have to figure out how to do flash my phone etc. Is there not a cab or a simple way to get android on the HD2. I currently have the Samsung Vibrant and HD2 and are torn between the 2. I want the HD2 hardware but like the vibrant software. Is there not a simple way or can I pay someone in the Dallas TX area to put a WORKING version of Android on my phone. Or is there a simple way step by step broken down lamest terms way to do this. I am overwhelmed with all of the stuff on this website. I know i can probably sit down and read and figure out how to do all of this but I dont have the time nor patience. I JUST WANT THE WORKING ANDROID ON MY DEVICE. CAN SOME ONE PLEASE HELP ME???????????i WILL PAY SOMEONE
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there are so much info to get you going instead of trying to tell everyone you are pretty smart but yet try getting someone to fully baby sit you, this is really strange? very strange indeed!
lockb05 said:
OK.....People on and creators of this forum automatically assume that everyone knows what all of these terms and different words are? Speaking for myself only, I am patent my self as being a pretty smart guy I am in college and I have a pretty decent GPA, but I play football and study marketing. I dont know nor do I have to figure out how to do flash my phone etc. Is there not a cab or a simple way to get android on the HD2. I currently have the Samsung Vibrant and HD2 and are torn between the 2. I want the HD2 hardware but like the vibrant software. Is there not a simple way or can I pay someone in the Dallas TX area to put a WORKING version of Android on my phone. Or is there a simple way step by step broken down lamest terms way to do this. I am overwhelmed with all of the stuff on this website. I know i can probably sit down and read and figure out how to do all of this but I dont have the time nor patience. I JUST WANT THE WORKING ANDROID ON MY DEVICE. CAN SOME ONE PLEASE HELP ME???????????i WILL PAY SOMEONE
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alright bro, check it out... HD2 Forum is not the only place to learn about android. There are plenty of forums on XDA that will provide an ample amount of information about what you are looking for. As far as a cab, there is no such thing as a simple cab to just install android as an app.
Easiest thing to do is to read and search. If you dont know a term, google is your friend. here is a start thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=728813
FWIW (for what its worth) I will post my setup -
Base ROM - NRG Barebones WinMo
Radio - 2.10.50.26
Android Build - shubi-CyanogenRC2
SDcard - Class 10 4GB
DualBoot app - depends which one i am testing
Please read the information on flashing a radio and a ROM before you ask how to do it or come back and say that your phone wont power on. All information is here on XDA, if you dont bother to read, I wont bother to help (sounds rude, but I can only do so much via a PC).
Best of luck, and if you are still completely lost, hit me up via gtalk - [email protected]
this thread is pure win, lol
it underlines the fact that reading makes smarter
also, that asking uncle google always help
but without knowledge of fact one, fact two is senseless.
If your willing to pay ... Why dont you buy a HTC Desire it has Andriod 2.1 fully working .. No bugs .. You even get support ... And it has simular hardware as HD2
Or wait till Motorolla launches its "almost same as IgayPad thing" wich runs Andriod 3.0
Really changing your HD2 wont work without spending some hours reading into stuff. Because when you **** it up .. And believe me it will happen at least once .. You do need to know how to handle and get you phone back to working.
And stop flaming. Trivial questions are asked all the time and we (if i may speak onbehave others) are getting a lil sick of it. It fills up good dev threats till its hardly readable.
Btw sorry for my bad englisch its not my native language
lockb05 said:
OK.....People on and creators of this forum automatically assume that everyone knows what all of these terms and different words are? Speaking for myself only, I am patent my self as being a pretty smart guy I am in college and I have a pretty decent GPA, but I play football and study marketing. I dont know nor do I have to figure out how to do flash my phone etc. Is there not a cab or a simple way to get android on the HD2. I currently have the Samsung Vibrant and HD2 and are torn between the 2. I want the HD2 hardware but like the vibrant software. Is there not a simple way or can I pay someone in the Dallas TX area to put a WORKING version of Android on my phone. Or is there a simple way step by step broken down lamest terms way to do this. I am overwhelmed with all of the stuff on this website. I know i can probably sit down and read and figure out how to do all of this but I dont have the time nor patience. I JUST WANT THE WORKING ANDROID ON MY DEVICE. CAN SOME ONE PLEASE HELP ME???????????i WILL PAY SOMEONE
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Uhh, you might want to just stick to the Samsung Vibrant buddy. IMO the hardware in the Vibrant is superior overall. Sure the HD2 has an extra 64MB of RAM, and an extra .3" of screen space, but the Galaxy S series of phones (what the Vibrant is part of) have that nice SAMOLED screen, 802.11 b/g/n, bluetooth 3.0 support, 720p video recording (which WM cannot do, regardless if the camera CAN support it), and a large storage capacity...16GB I think. Then there is Samsung's Hummingbird processor vs Qualcomm's Snapdragon processor, and more importantly, The PowerVR SGX540 GPU (in the Vibrant, and all other Galaxy S devices) vs the Adreno 200 GPU (formerly AMD z430 and the GPU for the current Snapdragon CPU's, which the HD2 uses). You should research it yourself, but I'll go ahead and tell you Samsung's Hummingbird wins.
OK...to shut you up and do the reading for you... it doesnt take long to work out.
1) Download HSPL
2) Download Radio
3) Download ROM
4) Format SD Card
5) Download Android or Froyo Build to SD Card
Android - Straight on SD card
Froyo - Put in Android folder on root
Take the leap/risk, its totally worth it.
I asked process questions 2 days ago, but I did the homework and reading behind it rather than moaning. Nobody cares if you play American handball.
READ the forums and advice people are giving you! It takes NO MORE than 10minutes for complete the whole process.
PS. Extra advice. Create a folder on your desktop with sub folders for each section (HSPL, Radio, ROM, Build). Makes things a little bit easier to follow.
@wilwilwel
He wilwilwel,
I have to disagree with you. If you read the forums and understand the process of it (read my previous reply on this forum) it doesnt take any time at all. There is no risk at all, Android works absolutly fine on the HD2, granted its still early days and development still needs to take place on the software.
Take the risk, the worst that could happen to your HD2 is you have an awesome ROM on it which is much much better than the original HD2 software.
I empathize completely with the OP. There is a lot of technobabble that is thrown around on the forums. It is something that can be intimidating to a newcomer. It doesn't help that everything on here comes with warnings about potential destroying your very expensive device.
I don't know about others, but reading all the documentation in the world won't help me learn a process unless I see an example of it being done. Luckily, there are tons of videos on YouTube showing you in real time how to flash a new custom ROM and Android on your HD2.
The methods of getting Android on your phone really are made for dummies, you just have to cut through the jargon.
Hey guys,
As an Ex-iphone user, i loved too playing around with photo applics that add effects to pictures, i.e. vintage look, polaroid etc... Can you recommend on any applications for HD2 of the same nature?
I have found VintagePic in the marketplace, but i can't purchase it since my credit card does not match any of the countries in the list. Any other suggestions?
Thanks, Guy
Vignette, or camera 360 are excellent for that. (android)
thanks for the suggestion, however I'm still running stock rom, which means i'm limited to apps in WM...
Any other suggestions in that department?
any clues?
Like you said, you are limited if you sick with wm ;-)
I have 3 apps who makes that and much more on my hd2
Hi,
I must admit, as a new user of HD2, I'm very concerned about messing around and ending up bricking my phone. i finally got to the stage where i have everything working fine on my WM, so I'm less eager to go about and mess things up.
However, maybe i can start reading and learning from other people's experience on the different 'adventures' that i may run into if i try to install Android on my system. as far i i understand there is still no 100% working version, but it's getting close.
Can you reference me to the main discussion thread on the forum for the android on HD2? (how to install..etc...)
BTW - do i need to take something into consideration if my Phone is a t-mobile?
Thanks,
Guy
Hi Guysu,
I do believe there are effects within your camera options that allows a few effects, under advance, on the 3rd page, you will find effects, limited to GrayScale, Seipia (for ur old look) and Negative (for whatever only God knows!)
But I do hear you, because I too am looking for some fun Cam Apps for my beloved phone. It's always a little harder to find fun stuff for a serious phone.
Benedict
guysu said:
Hi,
I must admit, as a new user of HD2, I'm very concerned about messing around and ending up bricking my phone. i finally got to the stage where i have everything working fine on my WM, so I'm less eager to go about and mess things up.
However, maybe i can start reading and learning from other people's experience on the different 'adventures' that i may run into if i try to install Android on my system. as far i i understand there is still no 100% working version, but it's getting close.
Can you reference me to the main discussion thread on the forum for the android on HD2? (how to install..etc...)
BTW - do i need to take something into consideration if my Phone is a t-mobile?
Thanks,
Guy
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we should open a support group for these kind of issues. meet once in a while exchange painful stories. long live hd2!
on a more serious note, can someone direct me to the right thread on the options to migrate from WM to Android?
guysu said:
Hi,
I must admit, as a new user of HD2, I'm very concerned about messing around and ending up bricking my phone. i finally got to the stage where i have everything working fine on my WM, so I'm less eager to go about and mess things up.
However, maybe i can start reading and learning from other people's experience on the different 'adventures' that i may run into if i try to install Android on my system. as far i i understand there is still no 100% working version, but it's getting close.
Can you reference me to the main discussion thread on the forum for the android on HD2? (how to install..etc...)
BTW - do i need to take something into consideration if my Phone is a t-mobile?
Thanks,
Guy
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As someone who is only just a few months into his 24 month contract (a contract that has no built in data connection), I know the fear of mucking up your hardware. However I've found the whole experience to be quite safe.
The first step would be to get HSPL onto your phone from this thread - forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611433
Then reading this thread - forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=713977 should give you everything else you need to know to find and install a new ROM, Radio and Android build.
I went from stock ROM on my HD2 to cooked ROM, new Radio and Android all in a day with those threads.
The only issues I've noticed so far as not being able to change the alarm times on the built in clock (just download a new one from Android market) and sometimes the screen stops responding to touch for 10 seconds or so.
thanks for your help in getting started...
I tried to catch on my reading right away, but i noticed this warning in big red scary font:
1024LEOs (from T-Mobile with 1024ROM) ARE NOT SUPPORTED
so, as a T-mobile HD2 user, that means bye bye sweet android adventure for me i guess?
Looks like your android adventures don't have to be over quite yet forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653614
I'll swop my HD2 with yours
But my experience with Android on my HD2, it's weird, sluggish and not fun. However that jumping cow game is fun in it. .
To be honest, the last I tried, I was on stock roms and radios, now with my new artemis rom and upgraded radio, maybe i should try again.. but i recalled I couldn't make phone calls lol..
guysu said:
thanks for your help in getting started...
I tried to catch on my reading right away, but i noticed this warning in big red scary font:
1024LEOs (from T-Mobile with 1024ROM) ARE NOT SUPPORTED
so, as a T-mobile HD2 user, that means bye bye sweet android adventure for me i guess?
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Here's an app I found via Google.
EDIT: Nvm, it looks like it's not even good.
Hi people,
I am a noob as far as Android goes, but I am pretty good at PC stuff. I run a 3D CAD department and I've been the "unofficial" tech guy at every job I've had in the last 10 years.
That being said, I just got the HTC Hero from Sprint last weekend, Android 2.1, update 1. I have always wanted to play with Linux but have never really had the time. So, this is my first encounter with Android or Linux.
So ..... , as much as I'd love to root the phone, I'm afraid to brick it. Is there any way to get rid of all the bloatware without rooting my phone? Also, what are the chances of bricking the phone? I've read a couple "how to root" articles on the net and it doesn't seem like it would be that hard, but I LOVE this phone so far (other than battery life) and I honestly can't afford to go buy a new one at full price if I end up killing my phone.
Another question; I've seen a few people in other posts who have the HTC Hero and say they're running 2.2. How is this done? Is this something else that I would need to root the phone to accomplish?
Also, I just ordered an 8GB microSD card. My laptop has a card slot, so I'm figuring I can put the new card in the slot, connect my phone via USB, and copy everything on the phone to the new 8GB card, then just swapping the cards.
Am I correct thinking this should be as simple as it sounds, or is there more involved?
I appreciate you taking the time to read my post, and I look forward to reading/posting here on a regular basis.
Thanks,
Eric Mortenson
Hey, welcome to XDA!
It is VERY HARD to brick this phone, so don't worry....about the only way we've seen that is by flashing a GSM radio to it, so just don't do that and you'll be fine trying anything else.
There are a couple rooting methods here, and there won't be any problems at all as long as you follow the instructions. It's not as daunting as it may first seem. You do have to root to get rid of bloatware, it can't be done without rooting. I recommend this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=694572 although there are 'one-click' and 'universal' methods out there too.
The ones running Android 2.2 are doing it through a custom ROM called Cyanogenmod. Check out the Development section to find it. It doesn't have the HTC Sense UI though, so it will look and feel different than your stock 2.1. But lots of people here are using it and loving it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=755795
And yes, you should just be able to swap out the SD cards with no problems.
chromiumleaf
Thanks for the quick and helpful reply. It is greatly appreciated.
I think I am going to try to root my phone. Pre-installed "bloatware" on PCs is one of my biggest pet peeves. So, the biggest reason I have right now for rooting my phone is to get rid of the stuff I don't want/need/use.
I will probably leave the 2.1 on the phone because I love the phone so far and if as you say, it will look and feel different. Maybe I'll keep digging through the site and change my mind later. Thanks for the "heads up".
Please do me one favor, and I hate to sound ignorant (I did say earlier I was new at this), but what does "flashing a GSM radio to it" mean, and is it something I could do my mistake?
Sorry, tried doing a search so I wouldn't have to bother you but I'm just not sure.
Thanks again.
Eric
Eric_1966_FXE said:
...what does "flashing a GSM radio to it" mean, and is it something I could do my mistake?
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To "flash" some code means to burn it into your phone's read-only memory. A number of things can be flashed to your phone's memory, including the radio operating code, high-level operating system code, and "kernel" (system "core") code.
What the poster meant by "flashing a GSM radio" is "downloading the code that operates the phone's radio". Our Sprint Hero phones have what is called CDMA radio hardware, while European Hero phones have GSM radio hardware. The two different radios are not compatible with each other's operating code. So if you ever download ("flash") the wrong radio code (GSM code) into your CDMA phone, that will render your radio inoperative, which will effectively brick your phone.
With that in mind, just read carefully any information relating to any system code you're considering flashing to your phone, and make SURE it's for a CDMA phone, and you'll be fine.
I loved sense and was all against even trying an aosp rom( vanilla/ stock android), but once I flashed CM6 and found beautiful widgets and launcher pro plus and dialer one I haven't looked back. The speed of my phone and the overall appearance is far better than Sense UI. Rooting the 2.1 is far easier than it was when I got mine. You had to download and type in a whole bunch of crap, now its as easy as installing an app and running it.
Thanks
Thank you to all three of you for your quick (and more importantly useful) answers.
You guys are awesome.
Go for it
I have 4 Hero's here at my home on a family plan,and mine is the only one running CM6-RC1 and they are all jealous. Every one that has a Hero at work or a different Android running 2.1 that has seen mine including a few Evo users loves the way mine looks and how fast it is. I thought in the beginning I wouldn't want to loose Sense and feared I would brick my phone as well,but these guys here are great and are a very supportive Hero community and walked me through the process. It is a lot easier now with the universal 1 click method than before,so that was what I did. The nice thing is if you do everything correctly,you can revert right back to you stock phone if you ever have to take it in for service.
Taking your time and researching all of this pretty good before deciding what to do is a good thing,but I can honestly say, there is so much more you can do once you unlock your phone than just downloading apps and bloat ware...you can actually make it work and do what you want it to do.
The chiefs here at XDA are working hard to bring us stable working Roms for everyday use,and I tip my hat to all of them and I certainly am loving how my Hero is now compared to what it was when it was stock.The RC-1 build I am running is awesome and (knock wood) haven't crashed 1x with it where I needed to do anything nor have I had any shutdowns or unexpected forced closed programs that were installed correctly.
So I say... Don't be afraid and just go for it.. you can still have it similar to what it is now,or you can see what aosp is all about like many here have and try it.That's the beauty of Rooting...YOU have the choice of what is on your phone..not someone else.
Good Luck
Mac
Thanks Mac
And Thank you to all who responded.
Like I said in my intro, I am a tech geek when it comes to PCs but this is my first venture into this kind of forum.
You have all been extremely helpful and have made me feel welcome.
I only hope that I can return the favor at some point to others on XDA.
I hope you all have a wonderful holiday weekend.
Thanks again,
Eric
I have to say, I really don't see what all the hoopla is about.
What does NAND give us that we don't get already?
With SD-based roms, we can change, update, switch, multiboot, and mess around with everything we want without danger to our device. If anything goes wrong, just reboot and be done with it.
With NAND, we run the risk of completely destroying our device (I have been assured that's not the case), not to mention the hassle of updating and changing roms which in itself is a process that can brick the device - (again, I was assured this can not happen).
And with RAM builds, speed and boot isn't an issue anymore.
So what exactly is the big deal?
Please feel free to prove me wrong and provide some 'pros'/'yays' for NAND Android on HD2. The more we know.....
edit: In the meantime, I couldn't resist the temptation and tried out NAND. I take back everything I say, except the 'hassle' part. It's still a lot easier to change around and configure builds with SD based builds.
I don't have my HD2 yet, so it's kinda stupid to comment, but from what I heard RAM builds are not great for gaming.
I too am curious about this. I was about to flash the NAND Desire HD rom, but then thought about how rarely I need to reset my device (and thus wait for the boot-up, which isn't very long to begin with). The rom I'm using is JDMS 1.6.2, and, while I'd really like a RAM version, the thing runs really fast. And yeah, why not keep WM around, just in case it has something worthwhile to boot up with (doubtful... but one never knows). It is nice to just throw on another build and test it out, remove it if I don't like it.
Maybe someone has a good reason to flash the NAND roms... I guess, if JDMS came as one, I'd really like that.
I do, however, appreciate all the work the developers have put into this!
try it man! you will be amazed! Nand version blow every other build! stable fast !
can't give an unbiased view since ive no intention of trying a nand build/ rom.
main reasons:
i still like the option of having 2 OS's (if that's a word?), tho i haven't used winmo for some time i still want the option.
like being able to switch SD builds quickly
like being able to choose what size data img and not have to think about running out of space.
got to say tho... think it's a hugely impressive achievement what DFT have done.
interesting post, i was also thinking whats all the fuss about, but i know for some winmo is dead & buried.
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try it man! you will be amazed! Nand version blow every other build! stable fast !
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You'll see the difference.
NAND is amazing, i used to get serious lag when apps are installing/uninstalling.....it took care of that and market download speeds are flying
of course boot time is only seconds. i have tried sd and i have tried NAND.
NAND is better
I flashed nand because I wanted to get rid of WM. Booting Android form the sd card made everything feel unoffical and I hated it. It's strange I know. But Why not flash Android?
Windows mobile is Lame, boring and laggy at most no matter what, specially with the weather in the background, not to mention the lame/limited UN-icandy cheezy app store. Android is pure Icandy with tons and tons of apps/tools with stability and profromance.
What can Windows Mobile do that Android can't?
I would choose WP7 over WM 6.5 and Android over all.
Android Dominates.
Battery Life is also awesome, and download speeds are actually very fast. It's like having an actual Android phone.
also i must say i am disappointed to see a thread like this, on such a day in hd2 history. after dft and the devs have put in 3 plus month of work! this is not the type of threads that should be started....SMH
dapoharoun said:
also i must say i am disappointed to see a thread like this, on such a day in hd2 history. after dft and the devs have put in 3 plus month of work! this is not the type of threads that should be started....SMH
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Well, I agree that it's an amazing feat, but I don't think it's wrong to have the question posed anyway. Wasn't it DFT that got android working on the HD2 in the first place? So we're not really downplaying all their hard work, just wondering what's better about it.
There's just something cool about being able to tell someone, "Well, I can boot into WM, android, and linux... can your phone do that?" Our phones would seemingly be less unique. Well, whatever, I only use android anyway, so I should just take the plunge.
EDIT: Sorry, I realize that there are a lot of other developers that have gone into making android work. I just can't think of specifics
Pro:
- It's fast and stable. Little perks like slow market download speeds and slow wake-up time right after locking have been solved (although some SD builds had these fixed recently too)
- SD cards are now swappable and mountable (without corruption). I like this since I had a 2GB card laying around which I'd use just to store CoPilot maps on. With Android on SD, that wasn't possible.
- Uniformity across all devices (well, almost). No more different setups for everyone, which didn't exactly easen the process of debugging and smoothing things up. Also no more problems due to SD cards.
- Battery life? Haven't really checked this myself yet.
Cons:
- Not having WinMo. Nothing I care about, I tried WinMO for about 2 days, didn't like it (as I expected) and immediately switched to Android.
- A bit harder to switch builds, but still nothing too hard or time staking. Future easier solutions may appear too.
Overall, I'm very happy with this development. It doesn't bring any shocking innovations in se, but lays the (necessary) path for an even more complete HD2 android experience.
I have installed it and believe me I am really glad I got rid of WM! It's flying and not a single glitch or error so far, I will never go back to WM! And I never had SD android b4 so I can say installation was a breeze. Cheers and grats DFT!
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Yup I'm happy to hear DFT have released Nand but I still stick to RAM build as I can still switch to WinMo & Ubuntu build. It's amazing how things really work with our mighty HD2.
Nothing wrong about Nand build at least HD2 users can choose to use Nand or SD/RAM build.
can you get 2mah from running android on sd card? i dont think so..
Personally I think I'll be keeping android on my SD card for now, because I have peace of mind knowing that I can run WM6.5 (god forbid) if my android build messes up (which I have to say is getting rare, so I might consider NAND in the not-too-distant future)
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The pros for me are that NAND is faster for me in all three builds for their categories, and battery consumption is low.
The cons however, if you're like me and install a good amount of apps say 20 or so, 100mb or so isn't really going to cut it. And for some reason i can't get superuser working, i keep trying to update it but it says it's up to date already, which it clearly is not, and it keeps force closing itself with every app it is required for.
i like the nand personally and i think it very innovative and if u read carefully and take ur time to understand u cant go wrong with the installation i am trying it right now it great and if i need to take my phone back just flash the orginal wm rom got to luv it for those who want to keep dual boot i respect that but u should give nand a shot
I saw it before but am apperantly oblivious to it now; can someone link me to NAND installation instructions? Would be grateful.
I currently have absolutely no liking of WM, so IMO dropping it has been needed for awhile now. The only benefit I've seen is netflix (lol?) and even that should be up for grabs off the android market soon enough. I want speed and battery, and from the sound of it, NAND is taking care of business.
@Truaim - regarding link to NAND install intructions
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893948
Aaaah I hear you say, another one, it's about time, welcome to the dark side, etc etc... Yeah yeah I know, it's about time I went from WM6.5 to Android.
Reasons why I stayed with Windows ? I liked the sync between MsOutlook and my device using USB and NOT "the cloud". Sadly the new versions of Windows (7 and 8) don't allow this anymore so I reluctantly joined "the cloud" (Google Apps for Education, it's free).
Now, I am ready to switch to Android, but, ... which version ? which ROM ? how does it install ? straightfoward ?
Can anyone recommend a good ROM that :
- contains HTC Sense
- is fast
- is easy to install (go easy guys, I work, live and breathe Msoft, it's my job, yeah I know, but it pays the bills)
- is in English
- is up-to-date
- is free
Thanks very much.
PS : I'd rather keep my history (SMS mostly) as they contain a lot of info, so far I've used PPCPimBackup, does that work cross-platform ?
Boags.
if you still want to keep WM you can boot Android within it, there are many tutorials around here, also be careful if your using a tmobile verions a wrong radio culd brick your phone.
here's one that you could try
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1986437
or check out the links below if you want to even multi boot your phone
mengfei said:
if you still want to keep WM you can boot Android within it, there are many tutorials around here, also be careful if your using a tmobile verions a wrong radio culd brick your phone.
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Thanks, I'm happy just formatting WM6, no dual boot.
It's not a Tmobile it was bought without a plan or anything so I'm pretty free in that regard.
Any suggestion for a "clean install" ROM ?
I'm pretty sure nobody's thinking 'it's about time, welcome to the dark side' but more along the lines of 'oh FFS, another thread asking about the best ROM and how to install it'. If you'd have searched, you'd have found a few hundred threads exactly like this, and multiple guides on installing Android.
Anyway, try the guide in my sig for an easy installation process (also read the new user guide too). Nobody can tell you the best ROM (that's entirely subjective) or a 'fast' Sense based ROM (well at least not in my opinion).
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- contains HTC Sense
- is fast
PS : I'd rather keep my history (SMS mostly) as they contain a lot of info, so far I've used PPCPimBackup, does that work cross-platform ?
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AFAIK Sense is a bit slow in Android on the HD2, and other options are better, try them and judge for yourself.
As for SMS, this is what I used when I made the switch long time ago, and it worked smoothly.
http://android.riteshsahu.com/tips/importexportmove-sms-messages-from-windows-mobile-to-android
Good luck
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I'm pretty sure nobody's thinking 'it's about time, welcome to the dark side' but more along the lines of 'oh FFS, another thread asking about the best ROM and how to install it'. If you'd have searched, you'd have found a few hundred threads exactly like this, and multiple guides on installing Android.
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Right, no need to be rude, I'm sure you've never asked a previously answered question in your life...
Nigeldg said:
Anyway, try the guide in my sig for an easy installation process (also read the new user guide too). Nobody can tell you the best ROM (that's entirely subjective) or a 'fast' Sense based ROM (well at least not in my opinion).
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Thanks, I'll read all that material.
AthenaLod said:
AFAIK Sense is a bit slow in Android on the HD2, and other options are better, try them and judge for yourself.
As for SMS, this is what I used when I made the switch long time ago, and it worked smoothly.
http://android.riteshsahu.com/tips/importexportmove-sms-messages-from-windows-mobile-to-android
Good luck
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Aah, thanks for that constructive input, I thought Sense was HTC's best stuff, I'll try your ROM and let you know.:good:
Boags.
If you want a rom you can customize visually, try MIUI. It has a tons of themes so you won't get bored easily, it even has an HTC sense theme. If not try one of the CM builds. Gingerbread roms are more stable but if you want the newer android features like Google Now and some new apps do require ICS+ go for one of the ICS or Jellybean builds. If i were you i'd just try a few roms before completely settling on one and installing all your data etc.
OKay thank you both for your help. I managed to install "Nexus JellyBean" on my HD2... It wasn't as straightforward as I'd hope (there are a lot of prerequisites to Android, it's not just next-next-next you're done but anyways).
So yeah it runs, everything works, but there's a bit "but". It's slow as hell. And I mean sluggishly slow. I've only connected to Gmail, Hotmail and Facebook. Nothing else. No GPS, no WiFi, nothing.
A test : on the main screen, open Gmail. Wait for four seconds for the emails to be displayed. Close Gmail (there is no "close" application in fact, once it's opened, it stays as an open process and runs in the background). Open "Internet" and wait for ten seconds for google.com to be opened (either on Wifi or on 3G). Go back to the main screen takes forever again, then open Gmail again, wait for another five seconds, etc etc etc.
Seriously, it's bloody awful.
So, maybe it's because the HD2 wasn't meant to run on Android and I'd be better off with WM65, or maybe this build of Android isn't the fastest I can find, but then, can anyone tell me what build I should be running ? There seems to be so freaking many available it's no wonder "noobs" like me ask silly questions "which is best"..
I just booted the HD2, went to Settings/Apps/RAM : 235used and 174free... And I haven't even started using any apps...
So far then, not convinced...
I won't get into the details bec theres already tons of threads about it but
Have you flashed a new radio that unlocks the HD2 ram to 512mb?
As I said, Gingerbread roms are the most stable and fastest so I suggest you go for one of them. ICS & Jelly roms aren't 100% there yet.
I'd suggest installing on nand with data on EXT partition if your SD card isn't that fast.
Txs, i don't know, I thought I had it flashed under WM65 :
NexusHD2
Android 4.1.2
Baseband 15.42.50.11U_2.15.50.14
Kernel 2.6.32.tytung_jellybean_r1
CPU ARMv7
Mem 410mb
Cyanogen 10.0.0-leo
Build date 07/12/2012
Build nr JZ054K (NexusHD2-JellyBean v1.3a) [DataOnExt]
None of these mean much to me, I'm still learning
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I won't get into the details bec theres already tons of threads about it but
Have you flashed a new radio that unlocks the HD2 ram to 512mb?
As I said, Gingerbread roms are the most stable and fastest so I suggest you go for one of them. ICS & Jelly roms aren't 100% there yet.
I'd suggest installing on nand with data on EXT partition if your SD card isn't that fast.
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1. He must have a .50 radio if he's successfully running NAND Android.
2. It unlocks 576MB of RAM, not 512.
@OP, Either go for GB or basically learn to live with it if you want the latest and greatest Android version. GB will be faster and more stable for daily use BUT won't have HWA so you won't have anywhere near as smooth an experience in web browsing and gaming. For your own sake don't go for a Sense ROM, they're just as 'slow' as JB or ICS. MIUI and CM7 are both great, I personally prefer CM but it's really down to your preference. Try them both then make a decision. CM has less eye candy and is far less iOS like but both are fast.
Okay thanks, slowly learning the "language"
Currently dowloading "Gingerbread" (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905060) and wiping "JellyBean"... (the guy who finds these names should get a job at the place where they name tropical cyclones:laugh
Keep you posted.
If you need any help with 'learning the language' check the guide in my sig which says 'A guide to all of the terms for the HD2'. It makes things pretty simple, and definitely helped me quite a lot the first time round.
So I "downgraded" from Jellybean to Gingerbread and though it's not superfast it's a lot better.
How can I tell my radio is the version that "unleashes" the max RAM ? I recall it was the latest available on WM65...
Any "tweaks" to make it faster ? A few apps often hang for a couple of seconds before they're available...
Still, it's a pretty cool platform I must agree, a shame Msoft never could be as good. Haven't seen the new WM though...
Thanks for all your help, and have a great 2013 !:good:
Don't worry, you definitely have a compatible radio version. The guy who posted about the RAM thing earlier was basically just spamming for 10 posts.
Not to confuse you, but if you want speed, stability and functionality and don't use many apps then Windows Phone may actually be the way to go. There are obviously some apps which simply aren't available on Windows Phone yet including huge ones like Instagram and (I think) Temple Run but the OS is really wonderful to use and beats Android in terms of fluidity.
Anyway, congrats on flashing and sorry about the rudeness of my first post in this thread
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Don't worry, you definitely have a compatible radio version. The guy who posted about the RAM thing earlier was basically just spamming for 10 posts.
Not to confuse you, but if you want speed, stability and functionality and don't use many apps then Windows Phone may actually be the way to go. There are obviously some apps which simply aren't available on Windows Phone yet including huge ones like Instagram and (I think) Temple Run but the OS is really wonderful to use and beats Android in terms of fluidity.
Anyway, congrats on flashing and sorry about the rudeness of my first post in this thread
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Sweet, so this is as best as it will ever get I suppose. Not a LOT slower than WM65 in reality, just a tad. Loads more potential tho, with the widgets and apps and stuff out there. I'll keep it simple anyways.
Still, you're probably the only person who, though a true Linux-Android fan, has publicly admitted Microsoft does it better, well in some occasions anyways : speed and stability is what most "professional" crowd need (a smartphone that does push-email, sync their contacts database and calendar with whatever server they're using, with the occasional websurfing, facebooking, tweeting or linkedin-ing).
Having worked with Msoft for over 15 years now, I had to try Android to at least understand what the fuss was all about, well I've seen it. I'll keep it for now, but I'm not convinced I won't switch back to WM one day.
I tried NeXTstep and BeOS once, loved them both as they were way ahead of their times, but sadly they could never been used as a professional tool. I think I can say the same for Android...
PS @Nigeldg, don't sweat it bro. No offence taken.
Yeah I think people often make the mistake of assuming that all fans of one thing simply hate the alternative, which often isn't true. Different things suit different people, I'd definitely recommend an iOS or Windows Phone to my Mum for example over an Android phone because they're more simple. I can only really respect someone's opinion when they know that there are always arguments for and against a certain point, if they don't then there's really very little valid input they can make in any discussion.
Also, I don't think you should really judge Android by your experience with the HD2, that would be like making a decision between a PS3 and an Xbox based on having played Viva Pinata on the Xbox and Killzone on the PS3. Android is a very nice OS and you really need the hardware to appreciate it. Having used Android on a GNex and a Nexus 4 (which I'm still waiting to order ) I can safely say it's now as smooth as iOS and Windows Phone if you get a decent phone.
Hi,
why don't you use WM6.x and Android on the same phone (via dualboot/tripleboot/...)? You can use the advantages of both OS and only need to wait 1 min. to boot the other one... see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33988958
I use different Android-Versions, because no version can all I need... and I use WM, because I have some great payed apps... it's great...
Cheers Klaus
Sent from my HTC HD2 using xda app-developers app
I don't want dual boot because I'm not looking for one solution, this exercise was just to test if a) I was able to do it, b) Android has what I need.
The answer is yes for the first questions (with help), but the second question has mixed results. Yes it runs, and yes I can do what I was doing on WM, but nothing more. Which leads me to my next question when I do decide to replace the HD2 by a new phone (because I need 4G and because I like new things, don't we all) : will I buy an Android or a Windows-based phone ?
My next challenge would be to test an iPhone