Is possible change my O.S WP7.5 ..??? .. i like android.. please helpme !!
Bro, do you want a ferrari with lamborghini motor? Why? Maybe you should sell Omnia and buy a Galaxy S, but i can believe you bought a WP desiring putting android os, its a shame this...
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Is possible change my O.S WP7.5 ..??? .. i like android.. please helpme !!
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Go jump off a cliff. Please!
Or use your remaining single brain cell to realise maybe you should sell your Omnia7 and get an Android for whatever reason.
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pLUSpISTOL said:
Go jump off a cliff. Please!
Or use your remaining single brain cell to realise maybe you should sell your Omnia7 and get an Android for whatever reason.
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... your brain need jump off a cliff... android is a linux distro.. and .. i believe.. can accommodate any cell-phones.. with work...
sepultombed said:
... your brain need jump off a cliff... android is a linux distro.. and .. i believe.. can accommodate any cell-phones.. with work...
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Sorry dude but it's not even possible to boot Linux on WP7 handsets yet, let alone boot into a usable version of Android. It might happen in the future but it will take a very long time, drivers need to be developed and it does indeed take a lot of work - probably too much for the Omnia7.
If you really want to use Android, move to an Android handset good luck to ye.
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Sorry dude but it's not even possible to boot Linux on WP7 handsets yet, let alone boot into a usable version of Android. It might happen in the future but it will take a very long time, drivers need to be developed and it does indeed take a lot of work - probably too much for the Omnia7.
If you really want to use Android, move to an Android handset good luck to ye.
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ok.. thanks man.. i believe.. osama bin laden can helpme in this.
Lighten up....
Jeez..... I just came from a similar thread in the Development section asking the question about Android on the Omnia7.
This forum used to feel like a place to come to ask innocent questions and we used to get reasonable answers, whether the idea was possible or not.
Now we seem to have the school bullies, all grown up and becoming XDA Senior Members.
I too was caught up in the WP7 24 month contract fiasco with a Wndows7 phone (Omnia7) that's seen no movement from Microsoft for ages. I'd love to buy an Android top of the line phone (SS2), but £500 for an Android phone with a year to go on the WP7 contract? So it makes sense to ask about Android on the Omnia7, right?
I bought an Orange San Francisco 2, headed over to Modaco, an hour later I had an unlocked, unbranded, clean Android phone to use with my year left SIM on the WP7 provider. Not everyone can afford to do this. That's why they come to you.
I read a thread over at Modaco written by an ex-XDA developer who spoke of the vibe this site has now. I'm still a little shocked to find he/she was right.
If any of you feel self important enough, then flame away. For those of you that want answers to your questions without the brow beating, there are lots of other forums out there.
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Bro, do you want a ferrari with lamborghini motor? Why? Maybe you should sell Omnia and buy a Galaxy S, but i can believe you bought a WP desiring putting android os, its a shame this...
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Why to shame...... See HD2.... It has an ICS update (unofficial)!
Its not necessary to have android update to every phone... But omnia has a goof hardware!!!
OutaDaDark said:
I too was caught up in the WP7 24 month contract fiasco with a Wndows7 phone (Omnia7) that's seen no movement from Microsoft for ages. I'd love to buy an Android top of the line phone (SS2), but £500 for an Android phone with a year to go on the WP7 contract? So it makes sense to ask about Android on the Omnia7, right?
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No, it doesn't make sense. You bought in to a closed platform, and granted you have a brain, you knew your contract would last for 24 months.
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The OP DID get a reasonable answer. Why in gods name would he buy Omnia if he wanted android, with Galaxy S available? It a pretty stupid thing to do, and pointing out the stupidity of that act is justified.
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I too was caught up in the WP7 24 month contract fiasco with a Windows7 phone (Omnia7) that's seen no movement from Microsoft for ages. I'd love to buy an Android top of the line phone (SS2), but £500 for an Android phone with a year to go on the WP7 contract? So it makes sense to ask about Android on the Omnia7, right?
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This whole paragraph makes no sense whatsoever. What are you trying to say? You can't upgrade a phone's hardware! And hw is not microsofts responsibility.
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If any of you feel self important enough, then flame away. For those of you that want answers to your questions without the brow beating, there are lots of other forums out there.
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The thing is, WP was NEVER number one i HW. Android was much further along all the time. People who buy WP do so because of the OS. Wanting than to change that OS is ridiculous. If you invest hundreds or thousands of dollars (counting subscriptions) in something, SOME beforehand information should be necessary, no?
Read the message, not between the lines......
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No, it doesn't make sense. You bought in to a closed platform, and granted you have a brain, you knew your contract would last for 24 months.
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Of course I knew it was a 24 month contract!! But I didn't know it would go virtually unsupported by MS/Samsung!! I bought a Win7 phone mainly for work, when Android support for the ever evolving MSOffice format was shaky.
I had a Win6.1 HTC Touch Diamond2 a while ago, which, through THIS site, I was able to dual-boot with Android. With your attitude, would this be possible now??
'....and granted you have a brain', ..... yet another sarcastic throwaway bully irrelevance...
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The OP DID get a reasonable answer. Why in gods name would he buy Omnia if he wanted android, with Galaxy S available? It a pretty stupid thing to do, and pointing out the stupidity of that act is justified.
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... it's obvious from the OP's question, he didn't want Android when he bought the WP7 phone. Me personally, after moving from a relatively open Win6.1/6.5 system, I was shocked by the Apple style Win7 lockdown ....
This whole paragraph makes no sense whatsoever. What are you trying to say? You can't upgrade a phone's hardware! And hw is not microsofts responsibility.
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Where do you get this from?? READ THE MESSAGE!! This is nothing to do with phone hardware. I just knew there'd be someone to come to show me the way.
The thing is, WP was NEVER number one i HW. Android was much further along all the time. People who buy WP do so because of the OS. Wanting than to change that OS is ridiculous. If you invest hundreds or thousands of dollars (counting subscriptions) in something, SOME beforehand information should be necessary, no?
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THIS whole paragraph makes no sense whatsoever. As I said in a previous reply:
'I had a Win6.1 HTC Touch Diamond2 a while ago, which, through THIS site, I was able to dual-boot with Android. With your attitude, would this be possible now??'.....
Look, if you're as old as me, you'll remember the Cosworth engine. When the engine was first unveiled, every man & his dog, at least thought, about dropping a Cosworth engine into anything from a Mini to a MiniBus. Whether immediately evident or not, the possibility was explored, sometimes very successfully. Lots of nay sayers were proved wrong, then as now.....
I liken Android to that Cosworth engine. If the AMENABLE geniuses over at XDA Car Development held my hand, damn, I'd sure as hell give it a go, squeezing a Cosworth engine into my Skoda
So put down the gun, son. This ain't no fight, just someone asking a question or two...
Peace
WP is way more secure than Android or iOS is hence one of the reason it is so hard to put another OS on it on top of the need of individual drivers....you can't compare Windows Mobile(essential the Android of back in the day) and Windows Phone it was basically a total rewrite of the system and WP8 will do it again.
Underdog vs Overdog....
Understood chicagolive.
I think the OP thought, as do I, that most 'smartphones' nowadays are much like PCs. A base system built with the necessary hardware to drive it's peripherals (screen, keyboard, sound chips etc), that can be accessed by the OS installed in device RAM. In the case of a PC, though most machines seem to come with the mighty Microsoft OS, alternative OSs such as Linux, IBM OS2/Warp, Unix or even MacOS, in some form, can be readily installed.
This was the reason I became so intrigued by the XDA Community when I learned what these amazing hobbyists could do, often putting the original manufacturers efforts to shame, and all just because the possibility existed.
So to answer the OPs question:
"Is possible change my O.S WP7.5 ..??? .. i like android.. please helpme !! "
"Anything is possible. Whether a machine is popular enough to warrant the attention needed by our community of backroom geniuses is the issue."
To be given an answer:
"Go jump off a cliff. Please! Or use your remaining single brain cell to realise maybe you should sell your Omnia7 and get an Android for whatever reason."
.. on a site I've come to respect over the years, is downright rude, an answer obviously not given by any of the community that actually does the work required to realise the enormous possibilities of our devices.
... then again maybe it's just because I hate bullies.....
Keep up the great work XDA!!
Peace
ok
The reason I use the omnia 7 is because I gave it away .. I just wanted to see the possibility of changing the system to android, but apparently it is not possible .. okay .. as a human being has the ability to adapt .. I did a jailbreak and the system .. so all ok .. thanks anyway ..
i think is impossble
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Hey everyone i know that there has been about 20 of these posts and threads about ppl hating or being upset with the HD2, but i feel that i have to post this.
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For a few months now I have been eagerly waiting for HTC to release a USA version of the HD 2 before conforming to apple or android well the dream came through and T-Mobile gets one will all these goods HSDP+ which gives you super fast 3G which is not in my area as of yet but waiting for it to get here but back to the goodies movies really cool apps and preloaded games I have had HTC phones all my live no other phone. But this phone seems so great lack the WP7S which now dropped the S LOL but I could care less for 7 for mobile. What I’m getting to is this phone is a beast with has a lot of potential but the sad truth is that you have to tune this phone for almost every thing to work but then you’ll get bugs regardless what you do its like buying a Ferrari enzo and having to tweak it that just does not make any sense to me. no matter what hardware you have from HTC its always going to miss one thing team work Micro Soft makes this great software that I know can do great things but because there are so many manufactures making devices for them with so many different hardware specs you’ll have issues left and right no matter what you. Hence why there are the Windows the market place and applications for windows mobile sucks so bad developers like Gameloft, EAGames, Capcom and others like fandango and 100s of others don’t take windows mobile devices so serious. i hate to say this but apples device specs don’t match up to what to what windows devices do but because its one device one hardware once manufacture there will always be great games and applications for apple iphone/ipod/ Ipad whatever. i cant expect XDA to make me happy with fixing and making a dedicated team or get other nationwide Developers to see the hd2 for what it is and can do. XDA has too many damn phones to tweak for the world. the HD2 is a great phone for big windows mobile users. i can say im a big htc/widows user but you cant tell me thay sometimes you wish you didnt have to tweak your phone unleast you reallly Have to. too many many companys are in the cell phone game with the same os on them. We will never see the full potentional because its DOA im tired of the rom flashing game. im not moving to apple because they suck and jobs can you know what as for android there in the same page as windows mobile too many wanna bees aka manufactures. ill keep my hd2 because i support htc and windows till thw day i die but know this phone broke my heart like a beautiful chick with a 10 sec memory bank no matter what she wont get it lol if you dont like my thoughts im sry i wasted your time
post you thoughts and comments here maybe some pointers and hits on what to do and if the tmo stock rom is just complete otter garbage
Uhmmm I have a comment.
My brain now hurts from trying to read your ramblings of confusion. Try using capital letters, breaking up your run on sentences, and for gods sake try proof reading your post before throwing it out there for all to see.
Now having said that. They are two different OSs with two different people in mind as users. The iPhone is a child's toy as far as I'm concerned. It's apps are made for 13 year olds that want a phone filled with mostly useless apps. On the other hand you have Windows Mobile which is for people who want to be productive with their time. Maybe get something accomplished while still out of the office. Now I'm not saying the the iPhone doesn't have it share of useful apps it's like I said though two different user bases.
Having a phone with enough power to get almost anything done is nice but yes as usual with any Window product you will have to tweak it to get it to your liking. I'm thankful I have the ability to do this out of the box without having to jailbreak my phone or pay for it. I have not a problem I couldn't solve so far with the phone by coming here and searching the vast amount of information and knowledge.
If you feel better after rambling then it was worth reading your post.
sry about the really bad post lol i didnt have time to proof read it at all had like 10 mins to type it on my phone battery was dying should have just waited now i look like a fool lol sry man
try listing some of the problems that you have been experiencing. a lot of other hd2 owners that i know in person seem to be having the same complaints; freezing, lagging, screen blackout, etc.
this website has helped tremendously in helping with such issues. simple things like using the task manager and a program called "free ram" help the hd2 run smoothly.
on top of that, i found that i can tweak the way i want the phone to operate by turning off certain widgets to save battery life. i also found some great programs such as s2u2 for custom lockscreens, bsb tweaks and co0kie's home tab to make the hd2 run the way i want it to. i.e., enabling pinch ande zoom to skyfire and IE. enabling rotation to google maps, etc.
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sry about the really bad post lol i didnt have time to proof read it at all had like 10 mins to type it on my phone battery was dying should have just waited now i look like a fool lol sry man
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Who needs periods,commas, or any punctuation marks anyway
It's that not I don't understand the issues but whats the sense of making a post if it makes no sense. Take a breath slow down and explain your actual issues. Many of them can simple be solved by using a rom that actually works. I have yet to use a stock rom that works right out of the box. Load a custom rom and it's a whole new phone. Yes custom roms are not without problems but most times they're little compared to the bloat that comes with stock roms.
Ok one i get random device.exe fail and other programs fail giving me that Microsoft error ...exe fail. For instances Opera, FPSECE 10, Morph Gear and the Camera gives me the same .exe Microsoft error. Also the music tab takes ages to load my music from the memory card . One more thing even after using Chainfires 3D drivers 1.1 and TX 3d Performance update than preloaded game Ferrari GT evolution lags so bad man. All of these problems repeat their self even after a hard reset. Oh and Chill with the spelling and all this I’m puzzled from reading my post I’m pretty sure I made my self clear onto why it looks that way ether help me or just keep it moving.
Try lossing the stock rom and that will solve a good bit of your issues. Also might want to make sure you have .NetFramework 3.5 installed.
Simple. First, lose the stock rom. Next, move the racing game from the sd card to the phone memory. Tada.
There are much bigger problems than the easily solvable problems you mention (my sig comes to mind). No reason for you to complain!
Again wisdom, the problem lies with the OS and Hardware, i dont think HTC and WM will ever take advantage of the specific hardware in our devices for the sole reason that there too many differences. Why do you think the iphone runs so smooth...well think about it an OS designed for its proprietary hardware/software, the OS is taking full advantage of the hardware's efficiency. But with proprietary software comes a drawback, developers need to redesign there software to run on that specific device, this is where i think WM wins because its OS architecture has been out for so long being its universal capabilities with hardware where else apple likes to stick to there own s**t, well thats dandy and all but it doesn't work all that well with developers that started off with windows for so many years, so now we need new developers to start fresh. look at all the apps not on the marketplace that have been out for years..apple doesn't come close, the marketplace just makes it easyier for our users today to find what they need, "Competition". please correct me if im wrong but this is my view. I always thought about this for example take your PC's hardware running Windows and tell a game developer to design a game to your specific hardware and OS, just imagine the performance difference to a universal platform game, thats why alot of games designed for an apple computer run most of the time 50% to 100% better then the same game on windows pc without having to upgrade your videocard... Im still waiting for the day that the hardware in our HTC WM devices are matched perfectly with the correct/proper drivers! My HD2 which you bought for me is fast as hell, but just imagine how much faster it can be...This is just my 2 cents.
Wil Badger said:
Uhmmm I have a comment.
My brain now hurts from trying to read your ramblings of confusion. Try using capital letters, breaking up your run on sentences, and for gods sake try proof reading your post before throwing it out there for all to see.
Now having said that. They are two different OSs with two different people in mind as users. The iPhone is a child's toy as far as I'm concerned. It's apps are made for 13 year olds that want a phone filled with mostly useless apps. On the other hand you have Windows Mobile which is for people who want to be productive with their time. Maybe get something accomplished while still out of the office. Now I'm not saying the the iPhone doesn't have it share of useful apps it's like I said though two different user bases.
Having a phone with enough power to get almost anything done is nice but yes as usual with any Window product you will have to tweak it to get it to your liking. I'm thankful I have the ability to do this out of the box without having to jailbreak my phone or pay for it. I have not a problem I couldn't solve so far with the phone by coming here and searching the vast amount of information and knowledge.
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Lol. Made my brain hurt too!
Wil Badger said:
Uhmmm I have a comment.
My brain now hurts from trying to read your ramblings of confusion. Try using capital letters, breaking up your run on sentences, and for gods sake try proof reading your post before throwing it out there for all to see.
Now having said that. They are two different OSs with two different people in mind as users. The iPhone is a child's toy as far as I'm concerned. It's apps are made for 13 year olds that want a phone filled with mostly useless apps. On the other hand you have Windows Mobile which is for people who want to be productive with their time. Maybe get something accomplished while still out of the office. Now I'm not saying the the iPhone doesn't have it share of useful apps it's like I said though two different user bases.
Having a phone with enough power to get almost anything done is nice but yes as usual with any Window product you will have to tweak it to get it to your liking. I'm thankful I have the ability to do this out of the box without having to jailbreak my phone or pay for it. I have not a problem I couldn't solve so far with the phone by coming here and searching the vast amount of information and knowledge.
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You still understood what he was saying did you not? We all have are strong and weak points. Your reply would have been fine without "My brain now hurts from trying to read your ramblings of confusion. Try using capital letters, breaking up your run on sentences, and for gods sake try proof reading your post before throwing it out there for all to see". Let's not be rude
Hey it was just one more suggestion to help solve his problem. Nothing like speaking clearly and being able to get the point across. Do you like to talk to somebody who mumbles under their breath all day. Do you like to talk to somebody who incoherently babbles? I doubt you do. No different here, I have no problem helping people, I have no problem trying to figure out what somebody is saying but when it's a complete paragraph of gibberish there is not much I can do. I could understand if he was some where in Europe and English was not his primary language.
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Hey it was just one more suggestion to help solve his problem. Nothing like speaking clearly and being able to get the point across. Do you like to talk to somebody who mumbles under their breath all day. Do you like to talk to somebody who incoherently babbles? I doubt you do. No different here, I have no problem helping people, I have no problem trying to figure out what somebody is saying but when it's a complete paragraph of gibberish there is not much I can do. I could understand if he was some where in Europe and English was not his primary language.
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I understand your logic, but you understood him enough to answer him. Why embarrass him? But I'm sure that wasn't your intention. Let's all just help each other out in harmony that's all i am getting at.
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Hey it was just one more suggestion to help solve his problem. Nothing like speaking clearly and being able to get the point across. Do you like to talk to somebody who mumbles under their breath all day. Do you like to talk to somebody who incoherently babbles? I doubt you do. No different here, I have no problem helping people, I have no problem trying to figure out what somebody is saying but when it's a complete paragraph of gibberish there is not much I can do. I could understand if he was some where in Europe and English was not his primary language.
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Thanks for you help, but as for the "Do you like to talk to somebody who mumbles under their breath all day.” I didn’t know that you can hear me. Now you sound like you need help when you read you not hearing if you need help there are classes that can help you with that issue your having: D. as for the English languish there has been tests and experiments that if the spelling or how the sentence, paragraph ect. Is written does not mean that you cant understand. Here take a look http://forums.techarena.in/off-topic-chat/1205040.htm: D but hey thanks and ive been editing, tweaking& flashing roms for about 3 yrs now. im just tired of doing it just want a phone that works that’s not apple or android, but again yes thanks for the help.
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The iPhone is a child's toy as far as I'm concerned. It's apps are made for 13 year olds that want a phone filled with mostly useless apps. .
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OMAAAGAAAA.... ur serious? Iphone is the greatest phone ever period.. apps for child's? LOL go to the apps store and u would find 200 bucks and up apps and u telling me they are for child's.. Doctors use iphones... why? cause the apps ... medical apps! http://www.softwareadvice.com/artic...ne-apps-for-doctors-and-med-students-1100709/
im a owner of a HTC HD2 too and his totally right.. windows is plain crap craaaaaaaaap.. it destroyed this beautiful phone...
LOL @ iphones are for child's.... LMAO
u obviously a iphone hater....... and yes i went back to my 3GS
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Hey it was just one more suggestion to help solve his problem. Nothing like speaking clearly and being able to get the point across. Do you like to talk to somebody who mumbles under their breath all day. Do you like to talk to somebody who incoherently babbles? I doubt you do. No different here, I have no problem helping people, I have no problem trying to figure out what somebody is saying but when it's a complete paragraph of gibberish there is not much I can do. I could understand if he was some where in Europe and English was not his primary language.
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JUST STFU!!!!!!!!
At least this thread is good for one thing, getting a good laugh.
And yes I do hate Apple with a passion. You like it so much go buy an iPhone and STFU yourself. I never said every app was childish or made for children I simply said they are marketed more towards children or should I say the simple minded. Hence it is a child's toy.
Does anyone know how to convert a android Sprint evo ( HD2 ) to windows 6.5?
Has it been done?
All my software is windows based and I want to upgrade to HD2.
If someone can give me some direction and it has been done that would be nice. I have changed roms on my phone before but never PLATFORMS....
Can it be done?
Or do i need to buy a HD2 windows from Tmobile and unlock it?
Thanks for all the help
Chris
i dont think that will work, like, at all.
wimo wont have the drivers needed to properly utilize the hardware. buy a winmo phone, save yourself the headache.
We just answered this in the inproperly-posted topic on the dev board. There is also a topic about it on the Q&A board.
And you can't unlock an HD2 to work on sprint, just in case you were thinking of doing that.
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And you can't unlock an HD2 to work on sprint, just in case you were thinking of doing that.
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Looks Like I am Stuck on Sprint with my tp2
Coming from a wm65 background, I'm just going to say... Why?
100million said:
Does anyone know how to convert a android Sprint evo ( HD2 ) to windows 6.5?
Has it been done?
All my software is windows based and I want to upgrade to HD2.
If someone can give me some direction and it has been done that would be nice. I have changed roms on my phone before but never PLATFORMS....
Can it be done?
Or do i need to buy a HD2 windows from Tmobile and unlock it?
Thanks for all the help
Chris
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It's practically impossible. It's a task that would take a team of dedicated engineers weeks to achieve--for us at XDA, it'd be so impractical it might as well be impossible.
If you want/need Windows Mobile, buy a WinMo phone. Shoe-horning Android onto WinMo phones is different because it's all open source. WinMo is closed-source, so it's an entirely different animal.
Can we get a sticky on this topic? Seems some hapless person comes and asks this question at least once a week.
The answer is no. Nobody is going to put time and effort into porting an outdated piece of junk operating system that was created before George Burns crawled out of the ocean to your modern smartphone. If you want a crap operating system you're going to need to go buy a crap phone (possibly from your local thrift store or perhaps a museum).
When you're ready to join us all in the 21st century then get to know Android a little bit. If there is something you're missing from the Windows Mobile era it would be easier for you to get that functionality created for Android than to get Windows Mobile working on your phone and continue to be stuck in the dark ages.
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It's practically impossible. It's a task that would take a team of dedicated engineers weeks to achieve--for us at XDA, it'd be so impractical it might as well be impossible.
If you want/need Windows Mobile, buy a WinMo phone. Shoe-horning Android onto WinMo phones is different because it's all open source. WinMo is closed-source, so it's an entirely different animal.
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GUYS Thanks for all the help and work I gues i am stuck with TP2 until sprint gets off there butt and does something about it....or switch carriers
I could be wrong but I dont think winmo is coming out with anymore phones after the HD2 until that windows phone stuff. And they probably royally screwed themselves with that move by giving a ton of people the chance to try android who wont be going back.
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GUYS Thanks for all the help and work I gues i am stuck with TP2 until sprint gets off there butt and does something about it....or switch carriers
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Have fun with your new carrier. No one is going to release an new 6.5 phone. First WM 6.5 sucks, a lot, compared to other modern operating systems. Second, it's a dead operating system for the most part. With WM7 coming out this fall everyone is developing for that. 6.5 will stay around for a while in dedicated phones for the corporate state but it is dead for the consumer space.
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I could be wrong but I dont think winmo is coming out with anymore phones after the HD2 until that windows phone stuff. And they probably royally screwed themselves with that move by giving a ton of people the chance to try android who wont be going back.
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Microsoft KIN
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Microsoft KIN
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LOL.
If you want a winmo EVO, switch to T-Mobile and get an HD2. Otherwise, Get the EVO. Winmo is dead. IMO winmo7 won't change that, but it has a better chance than winmo6 ever did.
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Microsoft KIN
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What about it??
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What about it??
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It's a joke.
wm sucks so hard!
winmos sucks lol
There was a time I thought I would never leave WinMo. Then I tried an Android and holy cow, it was like night and day. Not only is Android a super sexy OS, but it also does absolutely everything I wanted in WinMo.
I admin Windows Servers so I had to have a device with a Remote Desktop client. Not only are there plenty available for Android, but they are way better than the WinMo version....go figure!
On top of that, compare the $30-$50 you would spend on WinMo software with the $2-$20 costs of the same stuff in the Android Marketplace.
There really is no comparison at all.
Why o why?
The specs are good, so why can't we all get offically the wm7 upgrade?
I know there will be custom roms but no offence to the developpers, they are all ****ty. Every custom rom I had I need to hard reset my device every two weeks so that won't be a option for me anymore.
MICROSOFT PLEASE DON'T BE STUPID!!!!
Why does windows mobile 7 not on the HD2?
Greetz,
Fabian1985
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Why o why?
The specs are good, so why can't we all get offically the wm7 upgrade?
I know there will be custom roms but no offence to the developpers, they are all ****ty. Every custom rom I had I need to hard reset my device every two weeks so that won't be a option for me anymore.
MICROSOFT PLEASE DON'T BE STUPID!!!!
Why does windows mobile 7 not on the HD2?
Greetz,
Fabian1985
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Specs are good, but hardware requirements are not met by the HD2, now what does that mean, well it means that HTC did not look ahead, and used the wrong button configuration on the phone, so it is outside the spec of what MS says is required for WP7.
So yes we are Officially screwed out of WP7 because of the buttons on our phones .....
I doubt MS is going to change their requirements for the very few existing WinMo phones that have the CPU and RAM to handle WP7.
The hard resetting you have to do every couple weeks may have more to do with WinMo 6.5.x than the fact that it's a custom ROM. I'm sure we'll get near-stock WP7 ROMs that will function much better than what we currently have. Don't lament before we even have anything on that front.
I don't think wp7 will even be a viable option for most of us anyways (at least the initial release). Very locked down, sounds a lot like the first iphone. I'm hoping they update quickly and open it up (at least every 2-3 months), but I wouldn't hold my breath.
That is why I decided to take the plunge with the hd2. Figured it would be a couple of years before I was ready to jump on wp7. (though that 1.5ghz snapdragon htc sounds interesting and apparently is coming to t-mobile...)
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The hard resetting you have to do every couple weeks may have more to do with WinMo 6.5.x than the fact that it's a custom ROM. I'm sure we'll get near-stock WP7 ROMs that will function much better than what we currently have. Don't lament before we even have anything on that front.
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Ow is it? Cuz now I still work with my HTC Raph100 with those custom roms I talked about. I'm hoping to unbox my Leo begin this week.
So are the roms better now for the Leo?
Greetz,
Fabian1985
When I go to the offical windows mobile 7 home page..the first thing I see is the HTC Leo!!!
p.s. Sorry for the image size :$
Greetz,
Fabian1985
im still trying to work out why anyone would WANT wp7 on their hd2. itd be like putting Windows 1.0 on an Alienware pc. im sure there will be custom roms if you wanna have a glorified Instinct, but just cause something is new doesnt mean its better. why would you want to cripple this powerhouse phone with that dumbed-down software? doyou actually WANT to be able to do less with it???
im still trying to work out why anyone would WANT wp7 on their hd2. itd be like putting Windows 1.0 on an Alienware pc. im sure there will be custom roms if you wanna have a glorified Instinct, but just cause something is new doesnt mean its better. why would you want to cripple this powerhouse phone with that dumbed-down software? doyou actually WANT to be able to do less with it???
The reason I want to have It Is this:
I read that Windows Mobile 6.5 is based on all the old previous versions, based on CE blabla (I don't know It exactly anymore) so there Is alot of old junk that is not needed anymore.
The new Winmo 7 is totally new so therefore It should be allot faster then all the previous versions.
Please tell me If I'm wrong..
Greetz,
Fabian1985
For me, tinkering is fun, but that is not the main function of my work device. I want it to work, and work well. If that means giving up a couple features, features which I can live without, then I'll play ball. WP7 has been built from the ground up with a very different goal than Windows Mobile, which had the original goal of bringing the PC to a PDA format. I don't need that, and the functionality that is associated with that goal gets in the way of usability for my purposes. If your use cases do not match up with what WP7 is capable of, so be it, but know that the vast majority of customers aren't tinkerers and tweakers.
Fabian1985 said:
The reason I want to have It Is this:
I read that Windows Mobile 6.5 is based on all the old previous versions, based on CE blabla (I don't know It exactly anymore) so there Is alot of old junk that is not needed anymore.
The new Winmo 7 is totally new so therefore It should be allot faster then all the previous versions.
Please tell me If I'm wrong..
Greetz,
Fabian1985
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"alot of old junk" in WM 6.5? Oh yes - like copy & paste, and proper multitasking? If you think that's junk, you'll love WP7.
iPhone OS v1 was rubbish. v4 finally has most of what you actually need and what WM has had for years. Same with Android - the first versions were severly lacking in many areas. Only now is it coming into it's own at v2.2.
Anyone should be able to see that since it's a completely new OS, WP7 will be equally as rubbish as the iPhone and Android offerings were at initial release.
yes, BUT WM still misses a lot of stuff such as gfx libs for better programs...
like ballmer says... they need to lure Developers Developers Developers somehow...
iPhone is #1 because of apps... WM is last only because of apps... and WM7 is taking sooo long because MS's management SUCKS... they seriously need to hire someone better to get thier mobile dept straightened... look at kin... what it could have been if only those devs were still part of wp7...
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yes, BUT WM still misses a lot of stuff such as gfx libs for better programs...
like ballmer says... they need to lure Developers Developers Developers somehow...
iPhone is #1 because of apps... WM is last only because of apps... and WM7 is taking sooo long because MS's management SUCKS... they seriously need to hire someone better to get thier mobile dept straightened... look at kin... what it could have been if only those devs were still part of wp7...
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They put in Terry Myerson a bit more than a year ago, but thanks anyways for the un-researched comment. He's been spearheading the reset efforts in WP7. Some like him, some don't. I'll reserve and judgment until WP7 is launched and tested in the market.
This is a stupid and pointless thread.
Fabian1985 said:
Why o why?
The specs are good, so why can't we all get offically the wm7 upgrade?
I know there will be custom roms but no offence to the developpers, they are all ****ty. Every custom rom I had I need to hard reset my device every two weeks so that won't be a option for me anymore.
MICROSOFT PLEASE DON'T BE STUPID!!!!
Why does windows mobile 7 not on the HD2?
Greetz,
Fabian1985
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Be patient and wait for WM Phone 7 to come out! Once it's out you / HD2 will get the chance.
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This is a stupid and pointless thread.
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Well, yes it is now, did not start out that way, but a discussion is one thing ...
But when people have convinced themselves of something , and just want to argue the point it is no longer a discussion ...
1.) HD2 Specs are great, but HTC did not adhere to What MS has released as specs for WP7, so HTC screwed us out of an Official WP7.
2.) MS specs for WP7 were released(but not to the public) before the HD2 was , so MS is not inclined or obligated to change their specs to fit the HD2
3.) We actually have 1 too many buttons on the HD2 but None of them are the almighty "Search" button, so again the HD2 is outside the spec so no official WP7.
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Well, yes it is now, did not start out that way, but a discussion is one thing ...
But when people have convinced themselves of something , and just want to argue the point it is no longer a discussion ...
1.) HD2 Specs are great, but HTC did not adhere to What MS has released as specs for WP7, so HTC screwed us out of an Official WP7.
2.) MS specs for WP7 were released(but not to the public) before the HD2 was , so MS is not inclined or obligated to change their specs to fit the HD2
3.) We actually have 1 too many buttons on the HD2 but None of them are the almighty "Search" button, so again the HD2 is outside the spec so no official WP7.
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Actually, the Euro version of the HD2 was released before the announcement of WP7. Still, I'm not sure if HTC was made aware of the requirements by the time they were already far along in the design of the HD2.
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Actually, the Euro version of the HD2 was released before the announcement of WP7. Still, I'm not sure if HTC was made aware of the requirements by the time they were already far along in the design of the HD2.
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I had heard about the 3 button some time early last year, but you are right that may have been after the design and during the production phase of the HD2.
MS did not make an Official release of the specs till I think January of this year, I think that is when it was.
Either way , you can blame HTC, you can blame MS, but, it is true for any piece of technology, CPU's that keep changing sockets, Video Cards that keep changing standards, DVD/Blu-Ray standards the list goes, on ...
I mean providers are not going to change what they decide to to with regards to their specs and requirements just because people scream, I mean why can't I run Iphone OS on my HD2(not that I want to ), because it is not compatible, even though the HD2 out powers most Iphones, and just because Apple says NO.
I suggest, instead of getting all up in arms here, and bashing people for their views you contact MS and HTC and complain to them, not that it will get you anywhere, just as posting here is just gonna start a big discussion, but not fix it anyway.
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They put in Terry Myerson a bit more than a year ago, but thanks anyways for the un-researched comment. He's been spearheading the reset efforts in WP7. Some like him, some don't. I'll reserve and judgment until WP7 is launched and tested in the market.
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Yes, sorry I meant more like management a while ago... 1 year ago is still much after iPhone released... they should have done something like WP7 from the beginning and if management wasn't an issue, I doubt we would see two different teams for mobile in the first place: Kin and WP7... I do agree however, management is seeming much better now...
EDIT: also, for hardware keys, all we're missing is the search button... since wp7 will have windows button go to the tiles screen which is also the home, we can map the home screen to search (Kind of implying home page aka bing/search)? If they wanted MS could have easily added official support, but i am sure HTC influenced them to do that... since that would mean HD3 sales for them... ahh if only i were rich :-/...
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EDIT: also, for hardware keys, all we're missing is the search button... since wp7 will have windows button go to the tiles screen which is also the home, we can map the home screen to search (Kind of implying home page aka bing/search)? If they wanted MS could have easily added official support, but i am sure HTC influenced them to do that... since that would mean HD3 sales for them... ahh if only i were rich :-/...
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True, and I am sure some of the smart guys here will do just that for our custom WP7 ...
is it just a case of brute force ?! if so, are there programmes we can run to help crunch the numbers ?!
I don't know for a fact really, but from what I gathered it's just a choice to do it this way.
The system itself stays in this way untouched.
ignore v
mda4man said:
what is the matter with people like you. stop creating pointless threads, you don't no what the hell your talking about so just shut up and let the developers work on it
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Give him a break... Imho, this is way better than the 100th thread like "Why can't we flash to Nand, yet, when is it gonna be done?". He obviously doesn't know how it has to be done technically (neither do I, btw) and therefore, he is asking if he/others can help. I don't see why this is so bad.
I am curious myself about what's the "fuzz" behind the whole nand thing, just because it's interesting and because I want to learn new stuff. But because of reactions like yours, I have been afraid to ask anywhere if someone could explain in a couple of sentences what has to be done in order to get Nand access...
NAND does not consider to be an important development for now. But rather focus on stability such as battery, CPU suspend, bugs etc...
But look at how out of control this forum has got, its suppose to be for development read the title.
in very simple terms the nand is what boots our windows mobile operating system. Right now we are launching our android builds through windows mobile on a linux kernel on our sd card. Once we have access to the nand android will become our operating system effectively. This means that when we turn our phone off then on it will be Android windows mobile will cease to exist. There is absolutely nothing us normal people can do riyght now to aid nand development. Cotulla is working on this and will update us with his progress next month. Until then all you need to no is people want nand porting because the Android os Will run quicker and more stable then when on the SD card
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But look at how out of control this forum has got, its suppose to be for development read the title.
in very simple terms the nand is what boots our windows mobile operating system. Right now we are launching our android builds through windows mobile on a linux kernel on our sd card. Once we have access to the nand android will become our operating system effectively. This means that when we turn our phone off then on it will be Android windows mobile will cease to exist. There is absolutely nothing us normal people can do riyght now to aid nand development. Cotulla is working on this and will update us with his progress next month. Until then all you need to no is people want nand porting because the Android os Will run quicker and more stable then when on the SD card
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I think, this time, the OP was asking specificaly about the NAND's encryption and whether we could help with 'unlocking' that.
I dunno, but I think thats what he meant.
anyway, i dont think this was the usual "when will NAND be ready?" thread.
Maybe his question could even be considered a valid one...if a little vague.
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But look at how out of control this forum has got, its suppose to be for development read the title.
in very simple terms the nand is what boots our windows mobile operating system. Right now we are launching our android builds through windows mobile on a linux kernel on our sd card. Once we have access to the nand android will become our operating system effectively. This means that when we turn our phone off then on it will be Android windows mobile will cease to exist. There is absolutely nothing us normal people can do riyght now to aid nand development. Cotulla is working on this and will update us with his progress next month. Until then all you need to no is people want nand porting because the Android os Will run quicker and more stable then when on the SD card
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I think you've misinterpreted him he was asking of there was any way that he/we could help in the nand area, ok he may of posted in a not so normal manner & may have been better pming deb's but at least he is offering something instead of the constant "I want" "I need" "why can't I" type of thread.
i doubt this'll be of any use but i used to own an ATT Tilt (still do but my lover is in about 4 pieces of mechanical fail). I don't know if the HD2 has locked NAND or if you were looking to just replace Windows with Android (or preferably iOS4 which is clearly superior). I wasn't on Team Edward (or was it Jacob) that made the flashable NAND. I would suggest you ask them.
Here's a great guide on it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=680518
and I'd talk to the devs that got that going because they rock
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i doubt this'll be of any use but i used to own an ATT Tilt (still do but my lover is in about 4 pieces of mechanical fail). I don't know if the HD2 has locked NAND or if you were looking to just replace Windows with Android (or preferably iOS4 which is clearly superior). I wasn't on Team Edward (or was it Jacob) that made the flashable NAND. I would suggest you ask them.
Here's a great guide on it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=680518
and I'd talk to the devs that got that going because they rock
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Oh wow! Now I would love to see and iOS4 ROM for my HD2. That would be pure sweetness!
11calcal said:
I think you've misinterpreted him he was asking of there was any way that he/we could help in the nand area, ok he may of posted in a not so normal manner & may have been better pming deb's but at least he is offering something instead of the constant "I want" "I need" "why can't I" type of thread.
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EXACTLY IMO anyway....
enatefox: what?
and are we even allowed to mention ios4 on xda
enatefox said:
or preferably iOS4 which is clearly superior
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Diasagree
iOS:
-> Extremely closed code
-> Still no real multitasking
-> No embedded Flash
-> Sucking UI for dorks
-> Nearly no UI modding possible
enatefox said:
i doubt this'll be of any use but i used to own an ATT Tilt (still do but my lover is in about 4 pieces of mechanical fail). I don't know if the HD2 has locked NAND or if you were looking to just replace Windows with Android (or preferably iOS4 which is clearly superior). I wasn't on Team Edward (or was it Jacob) that made the flashable NAND. I would suggest you ask them.
Here's a great guide on it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=680518
and I'd talk to the devs that got that going because they rock
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iOS4 on HD2? is that even theoretically possible?
personally i dont give a donkeys 3rd leg if its possible or even probable. If a i0s4 rom was even thought up for the hd2, i would proceed to run my hd2 over with the heaviest item i could find, and then go buy a nexus, for which no one would even think of making an apple rom
I will point out I was kidding about iOS4 but unfortunately not about my broken Tilt =/
So anyhoo Tilt/Kaiser/Vogue devs got flashable Android on their Windows phones and I posted the link to the guide. I'd track them down (clearly with gps-based superdrones) and ask them for memory addresses, etc. you'd need to pull it off.
Also, I watched kingofyo1 boot an iPhone4 with both hands. I told him "hombre, you don't need both hands" and he made some crass remark about how it felt more natural. Or maybe I just made that up.. could've been g1bricked
enatefox said:
I will point out I was kidding about iOS4 but unfortunately not about my broken Tilt =/
So anyhoo Tilt/Kaiser/Vogue devs got flashable Android on their Windows phones and I posted the link to the guide. I'd track them down (clearly with gps-based superdrones) and ask them for memory addresses, etc. you'd need to pull it off.
Also, I watched kingofyo1 boot an iPhone4 with both hands. I told him "hombre, you don't need both hands" and he made some crass remark about how it felt more natural. Or maybe I just made that up.. could've been g1bricked
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yeah, probably g1bricked... only time ive held an iphone 4 was when one of my teachers was showin it off... i played with it for a sec, then told him it was total **** and he needed to sell it and get an android device... he promptly aced me for informing him about android
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But look at how out of control this forum has got, its suppose to be for development read the title.
in very simple terms the nand is what boots our windows mobile operating system. Right now we are launching our android builds through windows mobile on a linux kernel on our sd card. Once we have access to the nand android will become our operating system effectively. This means that when we turn our phone off then on it will be Android windows mobile will cease to exist. There is absolutely nothing us normal people can do riyght now to aid nand development. Cotulla is working on this and will update us with his progress next month. Until then all you need to no is people want nand porting because the Android os Will run quicker and more stable then when on the SD card
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I totally agree with you that in total, the forum could be much less filled with threads/posts that are not necessary if people actually read some FAQ or such.
But I think you really misunderstood what the OP (and maybe even I) was saying. Thanks for your explanation, but I was hoping for a little bit more of a technical explanation as to why there is no easy Nand access, yet. I am well aware of what it is and what it does (and what the benefits are of running Android from Nand), I was just curious about the underlying process of the "unlocking" (or whatever the correct technical term is). Is there an encryption to be broken, a "file system" to be imitated? Like I said before, I just ask these question because I think it's interesting to know, not in order to push anyone. I bought the HD2 as it is and I'm more than happy with anything that's being done with it
I think the OP was thinking about something like putting together computing resources, since he was talking about BruteForce.
considering i am a iphone owner and apart of there jailbreak community ,
i will honestly say that if this was the iphone forum where people didnt respect the rules , the jailbreak or unlock would never get released ..thats what they wait for , just how we wait for this android on nand , ..and when they do release it takes them months to prepair and maybe longer to create but its ,eaiser for them because there are always beta ios's coming out for them to see what they nedd to do , so ...either which a way ....leave it to the dev's
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considering i am a iphone owner and apart of there jailbreak community ,
i will honestly say that if this was the iphone forum where people didnt respect the rules , the jailbreak or unlock would never get released ..thats what they wait for , just how we wait for this android on nand , ..and when they do release it takes them months to prepair and maybe longer to create but its ,eaiser for them because there are always beta ios's coming out for them to see what they nedd to do , so ...either which a way ....leave it to the dev's
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Ummm....
I'm sorely confused by the shoddy punctuation of your post (?). Something about an Android living on an island called Nand, easier development for iOS (??), and disrespectful Apple forum trolls (???).
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Stripping Windows Mobile off the HD2 would be cool, but if you don't wan't Windows Mobile, why would you buy the highest end phone offered that has it? It would have been more logical to buy one of the dozens of Android phones on the market.
~Jasecloud4
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Ummm....
I'm sorely confused by the shoddy punctuation of your post (?). Something about an Android living on an island called Nand, easier development for iOS (??), and disrespectful Apple forum trolls (???).
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Stripping Windows Mobile off the HD2 would be cool, but if you don't wan't Windows Mobile, why would you buy the highest end phone offered that has it? It would have been more logical to buy one of the dozens of Android phones on the market.
~Jasecloud4
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well i got my hd2 for free so thats why i have one and using it for android
i do have bad punctuation , but basically what i was say was a reply to some one else post..i am backing off this thread ...bout to go make some runs need a new motherboard for my pc
hi, i insist to know is it possible to have window mobile on Dell streak?
Any one?
I insist to know why would you want to?
Never mind, I don't care...
Pretty sure the answer is no, though...
i like the design and wide screen of dell streak, but due to the aplications that i use for my work, the winmo is still very important to me.. Not to look down the android bcause it will grow fastly, but for now the winmo still fulfill my need a lot..
Let me know when Bob Pro (Windows ME) has been ported over to the Streak...
theres a million things keeping windows mobile off the streak. mostly drivers and a way to boot it and the shear need. if there actually is something in the world that runs on windows mobile that doesnt run on the streak, than why buy it in the first place?
Why would anyone want to?
You wouldn't replace your Sony DVD Bluray cinema system, with an Hitachi VHS cassette player would you
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I insist to know why would you want to?
Never mind, I don't care...
Pretty sure the answer is no, though...
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theres a million things keeping windows mobile off the streak. mostly drivers and a way to boot it and the shear need. if there actually is something in the world that runs on windows mobile that doesnt run on the streak, than why buy it in the first place?
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Thanks, at least your answers give me some clues..
You can also go this route
http://www.qigi.cc/showproduce.asp?id=52
and
http://www.waybeta.com/news/9746/le...-era-qigi-12-news-release-_-qi-based-phone/3/
In a remote land this tablet/phone ressembles the streak in a way.
Let us know if you buy one at least me.
Well this turned into a WinMo bashing thread in a hurry. Hey at least he/she didn't ask if you could run iOS on the Streak?
Actually this was not a that-far-out question for me. I bought the Streak for the size not for Android. Yes I'm getting warmed up to Android but I guarantee you that if someone ported WinMo 6.5.X to the Streak I would jump in a heartbeat.
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Well this turned into a WinMo bashing thread in a hurry. Hey at least he/she didn't ask if you could run iOS on the Streak?
Actually this was not a that-far-out question for me. I bought the Streak for the size not for Android. Yes I'm getting warmed up to Android but I guarantee you that if someone ported WinMo 6.5.X to the Streak I would jump in a heartbeat.
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Why? Is that a more feasible prospect?... Can't wait to see that!
Seriously?
Why on EARTH would you even entertain WinMo? Unless there is some seriously proprietary application that is dying on the vine of 6.5, name one thing you can do on WinMo that you cannot on Android? In fact, I can't think of something the Android doesn't do better...
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Well this turned into a WinMo bashing thread in a hurry. Hey at least he/she didn't ask if you could run iOS on the Streak?
Actually this was not a that-far-out question for me. I bought the Streak for the size not for Android. Yes I'm getting warmed up to Android but I guarantee you that if someone ported WinMo 6.5.X to the Streak I would jump in a heartbeat.
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At least i found someone that open minded and share some interest with me..
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Why on EARTH would you even entertain WinMo? Unless there is some seriously proprietary application that is dying on the vine of 6.5, name one thing you can do on WinMo that you cannot on Android? In fact, I can't think of something the Android doesn't do better...
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Not to offend anybody, but android is still new.. For me, who deal alot with some middle east asia language like arabic, the android still unsupported.. But personally, i'm also look forward for the development of android, coz for me what ever good technology we achieve nowadays, we can make use it wisely for our better daily life, not to be fanatic.. Just like i said, not to offend anybody, different people might use different application according to their own interest, while some others might even didn't bother it at all.. So, don't judge other people based on your interest and condition, there might be some reason that other people need while you didn't..
I had windows mobile for 5 years, I'm not bashing it, I'm just questioning the need. Its an outdated os at this point and I'm just wondering what windows mobile could do at this point that android can't.
Once upon a time I couldn't stand WinMo...but once I figured out how to use it, I left the Blackberry world for good. When I got an iPhone, there were lots of things I missed from the WinMo world.
Since I have 5 lines on ATT, the HD2 only offers me EDGE speed, and if it weren't for that, I would have probably carried that device for the past year..so I didn't mean to sound like I was bashing WinMo--it has its place in history for sure.
But why would MS be moving forward with Win7 phones if they didn't agree with some of us in that WinMo is a dying OS, much like Blackberry?
For me, personally, I can pick up any Android device and within an hour or two, be doing anything I used to be able to do on the Tilt or Blackjack or my personal fave, the Q9h...PLUS MUCH MORE...
Granted, if you need specialized languages and things of that nature, right now, at this moment, Android may not be right for you, but in time those things will come, too.
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Granted, if you need specialized languages and things of that nature, right now, at this moment, Android may not be right for you, but in time those things will come, too.
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And if it's that big of a deal (languages), and you work with them so much... you might want to consider helping out on translations on getting official support for the language(s) you need.