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Anyone in USA really concerned about losing 3G?

Like many of us I've been salivating at the prospect of the HD's large screen and, having decided that as good as my Touch Pro keyboard is, I don't use it enough to hold out for an HD with a keyboard (if there is even one in the roadmap). But..... I'm still smarting at not having 3G on my Touch Pro (and I know our XDA-Developers team may yet lick that limitation) so I'm seriously questioning whether I should go for the HD knowing it may never have 3G capability in the USA. Anyone else share this concern?

My need for 3G is about 10% of its total use...and my Edge network isn't exactly a snails pace. My Raphael is the best phone I've ever had, and I truly enjoy the ability to customize it. I am jumping ship and getting the HD without second thought. If the Elite team cracks the 3G...that's just the icing on the perfect raphael cake I have.

th1nm1nt said:
My need for 3G is about 10% of its total use...and my Edge network isn't exactly a snails pace. My Raphael is the best phone I've ever had, and I truly enjoy the ability to customize it. I am jumping ship and getting the HD without second thought. If the Elite team cracks the 3G...that's just the icing on the perfect raphael cake I have.
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Looks like we'll be here together too then th1nm1nt! Although I'll keep the Pro for a while once I have the HD just in case......
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I share
yeah, ummm, no 3G coverage here, don't care, lol. your 10%, well I am about 1%, just when I travel and can't hardly tell a difference anyway. Two things: Either the HTC rep that gave us bad news about the arrival of Blackstone in US is not telling the truth or doesn't know the truth to tell it. OR..... HTC really has the wrong idea about consumers in the US. Surely they realize that we want the device because of the many other improvements that it brings. The improvements in performance and the killer screen does it for me. I have owned PDA phone after PDA phone starting with the old Verizon xv6600, which by the way has a large screen compared to kaiser and many others and I know a breakthrough when I see one. If they really don't plan to release this device, then they had better be working on a 3G version with or without a sliding keyboard that runs windows mobile 7. If their really going to skip around generations and stuff, that wm7 device better arrive on time and on par with the iPhone in refinement and usability. They should make a device that people don't really need to cook ROMs to be satisfied with. Do it right the first time, don't take backwards steps, don't take baby steps either. Turn one foot directly in front of the other, in full force and confidence; the smart way. I want it now!

brucewilsonpa said:
Like many of us I've been salivating at the prospect of the HD's large screen and, having decided that as good as my Touch Pro keyboard is, I don't use it enough to hold out for an HD with a keyboard (if there is even one in the roadmap). But..... I'm still smarting at not having 3G on my Touch Pro (and I know our XDA-Developers team may yet lick that limitation) so I'm seriously questioning whether I should go for the HD knowing it may never have 3G capability in the USA. Anyone else share this concern?
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i think maybe its hidden and we can unlock it(if i get it, ill try to unlock the usa 3g) and if not maybe i can get ahold of a prototype with usa 3g. if not then oh well. ill keep it and sell it once they make one with usa 3g. i say if ur really worried then wait.......

I go all over the USA daily while driving my truck, and I've noticed that I get the big [H] in every 3G area I come to, so 3G is very important for me, but I'm still going to retire my Polaris when the HD comes out. I'll just hope and pray daily that someone figures out how to give us 3G...

Doesnt matter to me.
Only time I use it is if I accidentally update my weather application.

JesseW said:
I go all over the USA daily while driving my truck, and I've noticed that I get the big [H] in every 3G area I come to, so 3G is very important for me, but I'm still going to retire my Polaris when the HD comes out. I'll just hope and pray daily that someone figures out how to give us 3G...
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We finally got 3G here when I live in Millsboro Delaware. After installing Solace I to get the Big H now. I was either dumb or confussed. LOL However after the good people on here explained that H is better then 3G I was delighted. Not sure why. Called ATT said it was a little better, well faster and was fine for me to use with my unlimited plan.
Solace 1.5 is so smooth I just can't believe that I'd think of getting or replacing my Tilt. I think I finally found the phone for me.
Beachboyde/Jon

I switched from the Tytn 2 over to the Diamond not too long ago. I gave up 3G for slimmer form factor. I barely notice the difference. Maybe occasionally when I use YouTube or Opera, I wish I had a faster connection, but my day to day use of corporate push email is unaffected.
I would like to see the XDA pros open up 3G on these phones, but I feel the features are worth living with EDGE.
...but then again, I've been tempted to pick up a Slingbox lately too. Not sure I'd trust Slingplayer running on E.

Blob8me said:
Looks like we'll be here together too then th1nm1nt! Although I'll keep the Pro for a while once I have the HD just in case......
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So does that mean I'm no longer the stalker...but now you are?

T-mobile USA has 1700 Mhz and 2100 MHz frequencies for 3G support.
This is what I got from their website
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What frequency does your 3G network support?
Our 3G network supports both the 1700MHz and 2100MHz frequencies.
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So... I'll try 3G there once I get mine....

3G or no 3G
I have a Touch Diamond with no 3G (edge only) and one with 3G. (the big H) .
To me, not a big enough difference to worry about. The Edge connection is actually fast enough for me. May a half sec. difference in connection to web pages. Im getting the Touch HD. Besides most of the time I'm on wifi anyway. No big deal

So what exactly determines if we can get 3G in the US? Is it the radio? I have never quite understood this part.

bartimeus said:
So what exactly determines if we can get 3G in the US? Is it the radio? I have never quite understood this part.
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Not determined yet. The Elite team in the Raphael ROM forum does admit there is different hardware. They have connected to the US 3G, but don't think it is stable. They haven't finalized their research as of yet, but sure some more information will be coming shortly.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=420586

ok so it is hardware inside the phone that differs between US and EU 3G?
So if the bands on the specs page of the phone list US bands then it should be good to go?
Not trying to hyjack the thread I am just curious.

i will be getting an HD and droppign the touch pro... i think

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So what exactly determines if we can get 3G in the US? Is it the radio? I have never quite understood this part.
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As far sas i heard. its the onboard chip that does the differents. HTC said that on some of the old phones, where it got hacked and worked with 3G, hardware was there but not activated. thats why the people here could get it to work. But HTC stated that this is not the case in the HD. THey said that the HD can not be hacked to work with 3G, as it is not possible hardware wise for the HD to recieve 3g signals on the USA network

i believe i said this already once but its more of a matter of just the antennas and if they can recieve the usa 3g bands or not. the actual chipset i know can use the bands its a matter or just enabling them.

I thought the 3g put a 3g icon not the big h? Thats how it shows on my friends tilt. Me i have not had 3g ever since i have used at&t lol cause i had the wizard and now the wing. Does 3g affect call performance or just data, if so i could care less about 3g then. Although i would rather no pay the premium price on the hd buying from europe

AT&T has HSUPA but you have to activate it in the settings.

EVDO Sucks Will there be a GSM Model?

Why is it that all the coolest gadgets get to one of the worst carriers first? I love the specs of the Supersonic (EVO 4G) or whatever you want to call it. The problem is with Sprint. I've tested HTC EVDO products (HTC Titan) back to back with HTC GSM products (HTC TyTN). The CDMA products suck battery life much more quickly than the GSM products. If found this on almost every Sprint and Verizon CDMA smartphone. This is probably why the the Supersonic has a larger battery.
Also, it is true that some CDMA products do not allow simultaneous data and voice transmission. This may not be true of this device because it will be able to do CDMA for phone and WimaX for data. I am very interested in this device but I'd be much more interested if this device were on AT&T or even T-Mobile.
I am loving the HD2 running on AT&T. But I'd love more internal memory, the front facing camera, the kickstand, the better camera, etc.

sprint is the cheapest carrier, but valid point with battery useage. I also don't particularly like having to get an "OK" from sprint to change phones. Wish you could use a SIM card.
question though... how often are you browsing the web or using data while talking on the phone? I can't think of one instance in my past 10 years with a cell phone that I needed data while talking. If you're on the net, your data gets put on hold untill after your phone call is over. Back when I had dialup, my phone service offered a similar feature, and cdma does the exact same thing.
As far as everything else, speeds, coverage, dropped calls, annoying but I hear complaints from customers from all the different carriers, it's a cell phone thing.
OH! and where's my damn sprint iPhone? I'm calling BS on cdma getting all the cool toys... I had to wait a year before sprint finally got an android phone, while t-mobile / att had all types of phones that could be used on their network *rage*
let us have our moment in the spotlight for once.... sheesh

hold on boy
i think sprint is the better than att all the way. at least here in San Francisco.
The plans are better than att.
i have friends with their iphones and their internet sucks compare with my htc pro 2 on sprint.
And htc evo data details.
4g + data= Works
3g + data= No
wifi+data=Works
I can't wait for this phone.

No matter what carrier get the cool things first there is always some spoiled brat shouting out loud.

OH! and where's my damn sprint iPhone? I'm calling BS on cdma getting all the cool toys... I had to wait a year before sprint finally got an android phone, while t-mobile / att had all types of phones that could be used on their network *rage*
let us have our moment in the spotlight for once.... sheesh
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This.
No matter what carrier get the cool things first there is always some spoiled brat shouting out loud.
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And this @ OP.

I really really hope there is a GSM version coming out soon.

lol there is gonna be a GSM version no doubt. there will definitely be a variant of the Supersonic(aka EVO 4G here in the US for Sprint) in Europe/overseas NO DOUBT that you'll only be able to use on EDGE here but there will probably also be a GSM variant here in the states for another carrier that is basically the same phone but a little different and with different radios or whatever. an example would be the supersonic for t-mobile, lets say their first HSPA+ compatible phone or something, they call it whatever they want and HTC basically makes it for them using the core parts of the supersonic and keeps everything like android and whatnot and just changes up the radio and changes CDMA to GSM and puts in tmo's 3g bands in the radio, and whatever other physical changes t-mo may want like the buttons and whatever.

rambo6 said:
Why is it that all the coolest gadgets get to one of the worst carriers first? I love the specs of the Supersonic (EVO 4G) or whatever you want to call it. The problem is with Sprint. I've tested HTC EVDO products (HTC Titan) back to back with HTC GSM products (HTC TyTN). The CDMA products suck battery life much more quickly than the GSM products. If found this on almost every Sprint and Verizon CDMA smartphone. This is probably why the the Supersonic has a larger battery.
Also, it is true that some CDMA products do not allow simultaneous data and voice transmission. This may not be true of this device because it will be able to do CDMA for phone and WimaX for data. I am very interested in this device but I'd be much more interested if this device were on AT&T or even T-Mobile.
I am loving the HD2 running on AT&T. But I'd love more internal memory, the front facing camera, the kickstand, the better camera, etc.
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Last time i checked, Sprint (and by extension CDMA) usually gets last dibs on the cool phones. Name them...Touch Diamond/Pro/Pro 2, HTC Hero, Nexus 1. They never even carried the Touch Diamond 2 till today.

it is true, I wish there were sim cards.. but other than that, in the bay area, sprint kicks ass!
I have never gotten one dropped call since I got my hero, and I talk 2000+ minutes a month. I have 3g almost everywhere.
Also, no matter what people say, sprint has amazing customer service. I mean, at least you don't get put on the line with some indian guy half way around the world who just tells you to turn your phone off then on again...
oh and, at&t just sucks... no matter what hahah I'm glad sprint is stepping up to the plate. they offer amazing deals, great phones (as of now) and I think, are starting to move up in the world

There is a GSM variant, Its called the HD2.

Shadow591 said:
There is a GSM variant, Its called the HD2.
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but sadly you're wrong.

gmelchert said:
it is true, I wish there were sim cards.. but other than that, in the bay area, sprint kicks ass!
I have never gotten one dropped call since I got my hero, and I talk 2000+ minutes a month. I have 3g almost everywhere.
Also, no matter what people say, sprint has amazing customer service. I mean, at least you don't get put on the line with some indian guy half way around the world who just tells you to turn your phone off then on again...
oh and, at&t just sucks... no matter what hahah I'm glad sprint is stepping up to the plate. they offer amazing deals, great phones (as of now) and I think, are starting to move up in the world
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AT&T does suck, but I'm stuck on them. I use Sprint for my data service (aircards FTW) and they have AMAZING customer service. Whereas AT&T just *****es about everything and tells you how wrong you are, then tells you how happy they are you stay them. If they didn't have such fast 3G (which in my rural area isn't crowded, so it is reliable) I would switch to Sprint in a heartbeat. Too bad EvDo pretty much sucks
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There is a GSM variant, Its called the HD2.
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Or the Nexus

I think the battery suck issue is not so bad given the fact that you can get almost unlimited voice, data, and messaging (of all sorts), plus turn by turn GPS+traffic routing, for $70/mo, less with discounts.
Where's AT&T or TMo's 4G network? I don't hear them actually deploying LTE in any other market other than testing. Kudos to Sprint... psyched for EVO.

ok, so the deal with this phone, ive been reading up on the specs, 4g (6mb/s) is 10x faster then 3g(300mb/s) i run off clearwire internet witch happens to run off the same exact wi-max as sprint and let me tell you, it is FAST. the processor in the phone is a massive 1ghz! for a phone, thats a overkill, plus 588mb of ram... i cant wait to try to overload this phone... probaly take 50+ apps running at once... 4.3 inch touch screen, 8 mega pixel camera, android 2.1 (unless they release a update before the phone is released) i say all in all this phone is going to be by far the fastest android phone on the market, and PS: the HTC HD2 IS the same exact phone just running WinMo 6.5, slightly better processor but clocked the same, same ram, same screen size, its the same phone with a slightly different button layout.
you can check out the side by side specs here

Shadow591 said:
There is a GSM variant, Its called the HD2.
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The HD2 doesn't run Android.

Shadow591 said:
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Wrong OS, mate.

he did say "variant"
as in its not exactly the same but close, a knockoff, cousin, whatever. everything is almost identical spec wise just the os is different. thus its a variant. if GSM'ers want the evo in a gsm model. you could help with the port of android to the hd2. just a thought.
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It's not really a variant. The OS makes them completely different. One is full of future; another is just about dead. Unless someone could port a high quality and well tested Android into it, then it would be a different story.

Well I the closes variant to the Evo 4g is the Desire or Nexus One. If you can do away with the 4.3 inch screen, 4g Wimax, 8MP camera and the extra memory. Well the year is young, so who knows.

Sprint is great in Minneapolis.
Come to papa Evo.

Leaving my Nexus behind for VZW

I've been a T-Mobile customer for over 13 years and I've been loving my Nexus One since the day it was released (before the N1, I had been a G1 lover since the day it was released, too), but today I went to VZW and ordered myself the Incredible.
The only reason is because tmo's network in my area is crap. Zero 3G, rarely EDGE, mainly GPRS. And that's when I actually have service at all.
I feel like I am sacrificing as far as the device itself, but it's an overall win sure to actually being able to use the device the way it was intended.
I'd like to hear from people who have swapped from the N1 (any network) to the Incredible and get their thoughts. Am I going to miss my N1? Will I regret my decision?
Thanks in advance for your thoughts!
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good for you, welcome to the incredible family

I love the Incredible I must say. My gripes would the battery life which is kind of expected on a device like this and root. I was spoiled when I first got the Nexus 1 because it was already rooted before it even came out thanks to Modaco. I tend to get all the latest devices when they come out and will continue. I plan to bet the Evo from Sprint and retire my Incredible only because I have become use to bigger screen. All in all the incredible is an excellent device a side from what u want to use it for i.e Rooting etc..

I do not think you are giving up anything at all for the switch. If your area gives you 3G, Good Reception and Good download speeds on the Verizon network then you have made more than a 400% gain over the N1 in terms of actual usability. You will miss some root features, some controls that you had but in a short time you will have those same features again once its rooted.
The optical track ball needs some tweaking for sure. The battery life I feel will come in a software update that hopefully will resolve the issue of incorrect full charge readings. In the mean time follow some of the little tips and tweaks people posted and purchase an inexpensive $14.99 ebay HTC Tilt2 1500mAH battery for a spare and you are set.
If Sprint has good coverage in your area then you might want to look at that as well. The EVO 4G is a very good option as well if you like a bigger phone. It's not for everyone due to the size but if you don't mind it ( go to Tmobile and hold the HD2 ) then it would be a very good alternative as well.
Good luck.

you're not alone. I made the switch to VZW too. I had average 3g with T-Mo everywhere in my city, except at my work where I had absolutely no signal at all, and having no signal at all 9 hours a day, 5 days a week, is just not gonna fly with me. Add to that the fact that we get 15% off service through my work with Verizon and switching was a no brainer. I couldn't be happier either. I've yet to drop out of 3g coverage, my signal strength is always in the -75 to -85 range, and I have a pretty constant speed of 1200-1500kbps which is better than I was getting with T-Mo around here. Of course I miss my N1, and it's gonna be rough when that 2.2 update comes out, but being able to use my Incredible the way it was intended is, well...incredible

I made the switch as well. We've been promised 3G out here for the past two years and still nothing. We even have a fairly large Tmobile Call Center and still nothing. Of course every other carrier has had 3G here for as long as I can remember. I got tired of Tmobile piddling around and I must say having 3G everywhere I got is amazing.

I left Tmo for the same reasons the 3G service sucked and they were working hard on increasing the 3G service to 4G, but not doing much of anything to increase the areas that were on Edge unless is was a large city.
Too bad, their prices were good, I don't think you will regret the change, I have a week verizon signal where I live compared to the Tmo signal I use to have, but I have 3G with Verizon and I did not with Tmo.
I was up in Manchester, Ca. KOA browsing the internet on my Incredible while no one else had cell service, Manchester in in the middle of nowhere, thats Verizon good service.

after being fed up with Tmobile's horrid coverage, I too switched. I was a G1 early adopter, and recently bought a Nexus. With the Nexus 3g issues coupled with the already crap coverage, and add to the mix that my employer is set up to get a 20% discount on monthly fee's and I am playing the same as I was with Tmo, it was a no-brainer!
Now if only Sense could be removed....CityID removed....and make the battery last I would be fully happy. LOL

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after being fed up with Tmobile's horrid coverage, I too switched. I was a G1 early adopter, and recently bought a Nexus. With the Nexus 3g issues coupled with the already crap coverage, and add to the mix that my employer is set up to get a 20% discount on monthly fee's and I am playing the same as I was with Tmo, it was a no-brainer!
Now if only Sense could be removed....CityID removed....and make the battery last I would be fully happy. LOL
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you can kind of get rid of sense if you download another home app.

The N1 is using the G1's multitouch sensor. The incredible is using a far superior multitouch sensor. The buttons on the incredible are better too. You did the right thing. The only cool feature the N1 really had was the noise cancellation, but you can get that from a decent bluetooth headset.

Thanks for the info folks. I ordered my Incredible Friday (5/14) and with all the latest news about the back orders, it looks like I'll be waiting a while before I can make the switch...
My biggest concern is the SenseUI. I just haven't liked it in the past. It seems like functionality and flow both drop for me (having used plain vanilla Android since day 1 on the G1) when using Sense.
I'm hoping for root access on the Incredible so that I can, if nothing else, get rid of Sense... It's not horrible (or I wouldn't have gone with the Incredible), but I just prefer vanilla.
Anyway, thanks for your info on switching from the N1 to the Incredible. I'm looking forward to actually being able to use my glorious Android device the way it was intended, with the help of "the network".

You can always download a home replacement like zeam or helix and then use a task manager to shut off sense

hi, hope i not hijack the forum. lot of t-mob to vzw. any from att to vzw?

I was on Tmo for eight years and also used a G1 since it was released. Tmo coverage is weak in KY and 3G is only in part of main city near where I live. I like the Inc a lot, but still wish it had a physical KB for game emulators and Flash game content. Had a Droid, but the keyboard was weak and did not like the microsd behind the battery.
Anyways, I went from about 5% 3G, 80% 2g, 10% Edge and 5% no signal, to 95% 3G and 5% 1X. I have yet to find a place with no signal, which was not hard at all to find with Tmo.
BTW, Sprint coverage is not much better than Tmo, so if coverage is a factor, same boat. Sprint only uses Verizon towers for calls and 2G level data. No 1X or 3G for non-Verizon customer tower users.

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The N1 is using the G1's multitouch sensor. The incredible is using a far superior multitouch sensor. The buttons on the incredible are better too. You did the right thing. The only cool feature the N1 really had was the noise cancellation, but you can get that from a decent bluetooth headset.
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Incred also has a few other advantages over the N1:
1. Microsd is hot swappable and not stuck behind the battery
2. Over three times the app storage space and no need to mess with apps2sd for a long time. Also, since the Inc uses the 512mb rom only for the OS and stock apps, no worries about losing app space due to rom upgrades.
3. 6.6gb free for media- not counting microsd space. The Inc would have had more built in storage space, but this is why there is 748mb free for third party apps- the Inc was allocated 748mb of flash for apps.
4. FM radio

I'm going from a first-day G1 adopter to Incredible. I've been a GSM user for 9 years (Voicestream to Cingular to T-Mobile), but T-Mobile has been kind of sucky. I live in the NY metro area and even here the 3G service is patchy, and even if I get 3G, it's quite slow. I'm not happy that I won't be able to use my phone internationally, but it's something that I realised was a smaller requirement as compared to the 95% of the time I spend in the US.
I held off on upgrading to the N1 mostly because I was bound by a two-year T-Mobile contract and the full price for N1 was too much to digest. I complained to T-Mobile about this, and they made me eligible for a fully subsidised price at their end, but Google refused to budge. Also, Verizon offers a 1 year contract which nobody else does, so that's a plus.
I still don't have the Incredible in my hands, so I don't know how I'll feel with Sense, but looking at the videos, I think the apps look pretty nice. It's only the home screen that I might need to replace. I really hope that Incredible gets rooted soon.

slide on AT&T?

Here is my issue. I'm stuck on AT&T. I am contemplating buying the slide, rooting it and using it on AT&T (in b4: at&t sucks), and well... I am just stuck between getting the touch pro 2 and the 3g slide. I am a long time user of HTC (kaiser, wizard), and I love the way the phones run, but they just don't seem to get any faster. And android is more conducive to getting good apps. WinMo just doesn't have the development like android does. So my issue is.. Is the slide worth getting? I have also heard that the slide won't run on AT&T's 3G network... Any hotfixes for that? That's kind of an important issue I suppose.. Anyways, any slide users from AT&T have any feedback / anyone compared the touchpro 2 to the slide? I've been scouring google looking for comparisons but nothing insightful has come up. Thank you.

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Here is my issue. I'm stuck on AT&T. I am contemplating buying the slide, rooting it and using it on AT&T (in b4: at&t sucks), and well... I am just stuck between getting the touch pro 2 and the 3g slide. I am a long time user of HTC (kaiser, wizard), and I love the way the phones run, but they just don't seem to get any faster. And android is more conducive to getting good apps. WinMo just doesn't have the development like android does. So my issue is.. Is the slide worth getting? I have also heard that the slide won't run on AT&T's 3G network... Any hotfixes for that? That's kind of an important issue I suppose.. Anyways, any slide users from AT&T have any feedback / anyone compared the touchpro 2 to the slide? I've been scouring google looking for comparisons but nothing insightful has come up. Thank you.
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Can't help you on comparing phones, but the slide will not do 3G on AT&T's network. The radio operates at different frequencies for 3G than what AT&T uses, there is nothing you can do to make it work.

Android phones on at&t
Why don't you just go with the aria.my wife has the mt3g slide and I have the aria. Theres not much of a difference between the two except size and a keyboard. The aria is a beast. Don't let the size fool ya.also they have the new samsung galaxy and I think a dell streak that's supposed to be pretty good too.
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Why don't you just go with the aria.my wife has the mt3g slide and I have the aria. Theres not much of a difference between the two except size and a keyboard. The aria is a beast. Don't let the size fool ya.also they have the new samsung galaxy and I think a dell streak that's supposed to be pretty good too.
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I had the aria, and it's not condusive to texting. I went and sold it for $350 on ebay and was going to buy the slide until I realized it doesn't support AT&T's 3g network.

alphamancer said:
I had the aria, and it's not condusive to texting. I went and sold it for $350 on ebay and was going to buy the slide until I realized it doesn't support AT&T's 3g network.
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Look into the Galaxy. I had the joy of playing around with one, and am seriously debating on if I want to sell my Slide and grab one. Wonderful hardware, amazing battery life for the hardware in it, and I have never seen a display that made things look so nice.
My only gripe is the lack of a physical keyboard, but Swype does a damn fine job of handling most of my texting needs, only hassle is dealing with terminal and typing in commands.

Yea, did you try swype? It makes typing a breeze on the smaller screen. But by all means go check your att store for the galaxy or the dell streak. They are very high end devices. But also no keyboard
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Ok here's the low down u rlly can't compare winmo to android but in most ocassions android if u new mess around with it. Ok so tp2 is resistive screen big no no unless u a stylus freek imo get the mytouch slide 2g ain't so bad but use wifi when downloading apps it helps. Battery life varys on the mts from ok to amazing. And plus alota apps lol hope this hlps . Oh the tp2 has an awsome keyboard I used to have one
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So long incredible

Well guys i sold my incredible i couldnt deal with verizon anymore i went to at&t and a new phone of course I went back to Windows Mobile 6.5 I stuck with HTC it was HTC or bust pretty much so i'm picking up an HTC Tilt 2 well it was nice having an android but i got work to do modding winmo 6.5

Why didn't you at least Win7.1? Also, how is going from Verizon to AT&T improvement, I switched from them, I was tired of never having 3G.

What bugged you about Verizon so much?

I can't wait to switch back to at&t. gsm has never failed me for reception nor data issues. Verizon has overswamped towers in my area. my avg reception is between -85 to -92 db while holding one bar for dear life. switching to 1xrtt does nothing.

Bobby.O said:
Well guys i sold my incredible i couldnt deal with verizon anymore i went to at&t and a new phone of course I went back to Windows Mobile 6.5 I stuck with HTC it was HTC or bust pretty much so i'm picking up an HTC Tilt 2 well it was nice having an android but i got work to do modding winmo 6.5
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Wow. Talk about going BACK in time. Well, whatever works for you! Good luck!

Smokeey said:
Why didn't you at least Win7.1? Also, how is going from Verizon to AT&T improvement, I switched from them, I was tired of never having 3G.
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I didnt see any WP 7 devices with sense i'm a sense addict if there is sense on them someone let me know

SpartanG087 said:
What bugged you about Verizon so much?
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Horrible speeds for 3g and at&t was cheaper for me only thing i miss is unlimited data for smartphones, I'm wondering if i could use at&t's medianet data for their feature phones on my at&t smartphone that'd be sweet i'd save 50%+ a month instead of 25%+

Why dont you buy an htc sensation and put it on ATT?

I had a Touch Pro2 on VzW, which as far as I know, is nearly the same thing as the Tilt 2, but I think most people regard the VzW version as the superior one. I upgraded to an Incredible, and I can't imagine ever going back to it. You must have really hated Verizon!

JoelZ9614 said:
Why dont you buy an htc sensation and put it on ATT?
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Hmm i have considered that but i dont know if the 3g and 4g bands are the same if so thats a nice chunk of change i would be shelling out

axeae said:
I had a Touch Pro2 on VzW, which as far as I know, is nearly the same thing as the Tilt 2, but I think most people regard the VzW version as the superior one. I upgraded to an Incredible, and I can't imagine ever going back to it. You must have really hated Verizon!
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yeah i really hated vzw considering the fact i had to go outside just to get signal and your right the tilt 2 and touch pro are the same thing just the tilt 2 is WCDMA GSM while the touch pro 2 is CDMA

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Hmm i have considered that but i dont know if the 3g and 4g bands are the same if so thats a nice chunk of change i would be shelling out
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Theyre the same Att supports tmobiles fake 4g hspa+ and yea thats a whole chunk of cash but the sensation 4g is an epic phone heres the link for the compatible sensation 4g att bands its a whole chunk of cash http://negrielectronics.com/htc-z710a-sensation-850-1900-3g.html

I left verizon also for the lack of signal etc ( live in the sticks ) flashed my DINC to Metropcs.. got tired of losing signal at my driveway.. so now with att.. so far have a strong signal everywhere. and faster data than i had with sprint or verizon.. so atm im pleased.. i got a htc inspire.. so far love it.. batt life could be better. but no worse than the dinc was.... You just have to fine what works for u.. cause im sure in the big cities its harder to choose.. but in the sticks.. its whoever gets the best signal for me..

spiritcrusher33 said:
I left verizon also for the lack of signal etc ( live in the sticks ) flashed my DINC to Metropcs.. got tired of losing signal at my driveway.. so now with att.. so far have a strong signal everywhere. and faster data than i had with sprint or verizon.. so atm im pleased.. i got a htc inspire.. so far love it.. batt life could be better. but no worse than the dinc was.... You just have to fine what works for u.. cause im sure in the big cities its harder to choose.. but in the sticks.. its whoever gets the best signal for me..
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I think that makes sense. And FWIW a friend of mine got his first Android smartphone - an Inspire - and loves it.

I'm very happy with my inspire.. still have my spare dinc to use for music at work.. etc
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is the sensation a gsm phone only? No cdma?

Bobby.O said:
Well guys i sold my incredible i couldnt deal with verizon anymore i went to at&t and a new phone of course I went back to Windows Mobile 6.5 I stuck with HTC it was HTC or bust pretty much so i'm picking up an HTC Tilt 2 well it was nice having an android but i got work to do modding winmo 6.5
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Wow - that sounds like a nightmare. Leaving Android and Verizon for ATT and Windows 6.5... I hope you wake up from that terrifying dream soon!