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Canadian users - which radio?

Hello,
I am in canada on fido wireless.
I wanted to know, who else use the phone in canada and which radio version you use.
I feel my battery really drains fast... and dunno why?
I am using the 1.17 radio version.

It could be a bunch of things causing your battery to drain fast.
It could be your screen, perhaps your phone is waking up in your pocket or case (sometimes volume keys will wake up phone, perhaps power button is jostled), do you lock your phone?
Regarding the radio:
How is your reception with that radio?
You say you're on Fido, what city?
Do find yourself in more dead spots than usual? Do you find you miss calls? I've heard some people say their phone feels warm when making calls.
Also, what Rilphone.dll are you using? Reading the 1.17 thread it seems people get good results with the 1.15 rilphone.
Personally, I tried a ROM with that radio and I had poor result. Could have been the ROM, could have been my rilphone, but I was scared away from 1.17.
I've been using 1.14.25.24, on Fido, in Greater Vancouver. I find that it doesn't connect sometimes and I hit lots of dead spots (I've never had a phone that didn't work in my elevator before this one).
Recently I was in Port Coquitlam and it spent the day trying to connect to the network. First time I had my battery go so quick.
Myself, I'd choose reception over battery life.

I am in toronto.
Reception has been good, and earlier I used 1.14 as well.
but i hadnt noticed to much difference.
I guess i might switch over, coz the battery really drains fast.
yes i make sure, screen does not switch on when in my pocket.
will see if downgrading will improve my battery life.

I'm In Mississuga.
I'm using Energy Rom + Radio 1.17. In my opinion, I feel the the Radio 1.17 is better than 1.14. cheers

[RADIO] no/bad radio signal aaaargh

the problem i have, is that my phone loses signal every once in a while. I get between 4 and 0 signal bars, changing all the time, while I sit still in the living room So often I have no reception for text messages or calls.
it seems that winmo uses so much CPU power for certain background tasks, that the signal quality suffers, or even loses signal. When starting a call, or sending an sms, the signal bars drop like led.
what can I can do? getting desperate here... I even tried holding the phone upside down, thus not touching the antenna. Pharaday effect is known, but phone quality is only marginally better outside. Tried all radios on the forum, and several different flavours ROM, including a stock one
is there a software tool, that displays exact radio signal strength, instead of the bars on top?

dXsL said:
the problem i have, is that my phone loses signal every once in a while. I get between 4 and 0 signal bars, changing all the time, while I sit still in the living room So often I have no reception for text messages or calls.
it seems that winmo uses so much CPU power for certain background tasks, that the signal quality suffers, or even loses signal. When starting a call, or sending an sms, the signal bars drop like led.
what can I can do? getting desperate here... I even tried holding the phone upside down, thus not touching the antenna. Pharaday effect is known, but phone quality is only marginally better outside. Tried all radios on the forum, and several different flavours ROM, including a stock one
is there a software tool, that displays exact radio signal strength, instead of the bars on top?
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i have very bad signal if i sit or stand under or next to METAL roof around my house, but i have a very good signal outside my house. Sometimes i am not able to receive a call when making a call from home phone. Since you have all radios in here, i don't know which radio to suggest. FYI, I am using 2.08.50.08_2 radio and it gives me better signal.

waichai said:
i have very bad signal if i sit or stand under or next to METAL roof around my house, but i have a very good signal outside my house. Sometimes i am not able to receive a call when making a call from home phone. Since you have all radios in here, i don't know which radio to suggest. FYI, I am using 2.08.50.08_2 radio and it gives me better signal.
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that's Pharaday's Cage effect. that is not what I have. HD2 cpu power is having an effect on the radio signal strength (bg processes probably)

If other people with non-HD2 phones have the same problems, the problem may not be your HD2, but consider you have weak signal strength from your provider. This happened in my previous appartment where I had to stay in the kitchen if I wanted to make a phone call.
What radio ROM do you use ? I had some problems too in the past. Now with radio ROM 2.10.50.26 I don't have these problems anymore.
But in the meanwhile I never went back to a stock ROM either so my next question is : what ROM do you use ? I don't have any of these problems with Laurentius26 or CleanEX ROMs since I use the 2.10.50.26 radio ROM.

Trudi said:
What radio ROM do you use ? I had some problems too in the past. Now with radio ROM 2.10.50.26 I don't have these problems anymore.
But in the meanwhile I never went back to a stock ROM either so my next question is : what ROM do you use ? I don't have any of these problems with Laurentius26 or CleanEX ROMs since I use the 2.10.50.26 radio ROM.
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hej, 2.10.50.26 was the last one I used, when i decided to go "back" to the official ROM in Denmark and that one came with radio 2.06.51.07.
I used primarily Miri's ROM, but I switched to Artemis (did of course a task29 after the stock ROM); Artemis tests on radio 2.06 instead of 2.10. My theory was/is that a windows ROM should fit with radio ROM. But so far, not noticeably better.
REQ: still looking for a tool that monitors (and logs?) signal strength, so I do some tests. anyone?

I just found this post by tokolosh in an EnergROM thead
Q: Which is the best Radio to use with EnergyRoms ...... ?
A: There is no "Best" Radio, they seem to be Location and Preference dependant. Some have better Recetion but poor battery life and vicaversa. Try out the "big 4" to see which works best for you (2.(07/08/09/10).50.xx_xx) just make sure it is a 50 and not a 51 version --> example 2.07.50.xx is good but 2.07.51.xx is not
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Anyone smarter than me who can explain WHY the 51 is not good? (googled for answer but no luck...)

TIP: Flash radio 2.12.50.02_2 for amazing battery life

There is currently a topic on radio versus battery life but as the conclusion is so great I want everyone to know as it may have got lost in the other thread and I feel users here are missing out by not knowing about it.
Basically several users have flashed the 2.12 radio and found much better battery life. On the 2.15 radio I used to get less than 10 hours. On radio 2.12 I have got 18 hours at least.
To flash a radio to your phone, turn off your phone completely. While holding down the volume down button, turn the phone back on. Keep volume down button pressed until you see the red, green blue screen. Connect your usb cable to phone and PC and the text on the screen will change from serial to USB. Execute the custom RUU file and follow the steps to flash 2.12 radio.
Link to radio and custom ruu:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=IFCLJFV9
Original discussion thread here to read up on it first:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=924059

2.12 give me better battery but slower 3G data while 2.15 3G is faster but little more battery drain. It depend on what you need more.
I choose 2.15 for faster 3G

Question:
Should already know I guess but...
Can we just flash the radio and keep the rest of the set-up or do we have to re do the windows installation / un-locking / activation thing?

Toggs said:
Should already know I guess but...
Can we just flash the radio and keep the rest of the set-up or do we have to re do the windows installation / un-locking / activation thing?
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Just flash radio through bootloader (hold vol down while reseting) and it'll keep everything as is

The radio won't affect your Windows installation at all. Flash at will Just downgraded from 2.14 to 2.12. Now let's see if I will get some more time from it. With 2.14 it was soemthing like 14-15 hrs.

I Will test it when i go home! Thanks mate!

i also found 2.12 better for battery life. although 2.14 seemed ot have slightly better data/voice quality.
The battery life wins out though

I will test it out. THX Mate.

TheOnly1 said:
The radio won't affect your Windows installation at all. Flash at will Just downgraded from 2.14 to 2.12. Now let's see if I will get some more time from it. With 2.14 it was soemthing like 14-15 hrs.
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Well depends on the phone you have, I had to reinstall my WP7 DFT rom after downgrading to 2.12 due to constant reboot on the DFT screen. I think one should be aware of it too.

Thank U for Ur extremely useful tip,I have quoted to several Chinses forum
Apologize for no aquire beforehand~~~

Yes ... 2.12 Also gives me a better battery life =)
Sent from my HD7 T9292 using Board Express

xda2_haseeb said:
Yes ... 2.12 Also gives me a better battery life =)
Sent from my HD7 T9292 using Board Express
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I can confirm that too. Much better

So, how do you check which radio you have from within windows Phone 7?

confirm...however data connection sucks....hmmmmm

Is it just the 3G connections that slow down or would there be a noticeable reduction in speeds over Edge?

Strange... my data connection is the same as always. no slow down at all.

The quality of the data connection depends mainly on the network. If you have good enough coverage you won't notice a difference at all.

Do you get call problems,ie does the phone crash after calling with this radio ?

no changes in signal strength but the calibration for the battery meter is horribly unstable atm... if I do a hard reset after a few hours the battery meter goes higher lol

Can someone please re upload this somewhere else?

Interesting battery consumption with wireless

I thought I would share my recent findings with all of you as it appears battery consumption is a hot topic. First of all I've never had a probem with battery consumption on my DHD, I've always been happy and I'm still happy. This is just an observation.
In my house I have a good wifi signal everywhere except in my bedroom, when I'm lying in bed it can lose connection every now and then, this has not really been a problem until 2.3. It's as simple as this, if I leave wifi on with a fully charged battery next to my bed the next morning there is 10-15% battery left, if I turn wifi off then the next morning there will be 75-85% battery left.
If I'm at work with wifi on all day even though it's not connected to a wifi connection when I go home there is still at least 60% left. Clearly if you leave wifi on connected to a network and the signal drops out every now and then or if the signal is poor expect your battery to be exhausted in no time. Leaving wifi on is not the problem, well in my case it isn't, it all depends on the signal strength of what you connecting to.

Same here . and if you have a good wifi signal the battery life is much much way better than using 3g connection

MarkieSA said:
I thought I would share my recent findings with all of you as it appears battery consumption is a hot topic. First of all I've never had a probem with battery consumption on my DHD, I've always been happy and I'm still happy. This is just an observation.
In my house I have a good wifi signal everywhere except in my bedroom, when I'm lying in bed it can lose connection every now and then, this has not really been a problem until 2.3. It's as simple as this, if I leave wifi on with a fully charged battery next to my bed the next morning there is 10-15% battery left, if I turn wifi off then the next morning there will be 75-85% battery left.
If I'm at work with wifi on all day even though it's not connected to a wifi connection when I go home there is still at least 60% left. Clearly if you leave wifi on connected to a network and the signal drops out every now and then or if the signal is poor expect your battery to be exhausted in no time. Leaving wifi on is not the problem, well in my case it isn't, it all depends on the signal strength of what you connecting to.
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This is normal behaviour, when wifi is on it will try to reconnect if it loses network, hence in your case it is continually reconnecting to the wifi and draining the battery, if this is a new issue with 2.3 it may be curable by flashing one of the older radios as it may be an issue with the new radio?

same probllem
i have the same problem with my DHD, i have stock rooted rom 2.3.3, and my bettery is draining at an alarming rate, cause it always trying to reconnect to wifi network. but the main prb is that wifi signal is strong, as my laptop has excellent signal, but my phone is strange, sometimes it has full signal, sometimes it drops and completely disconnects from wifi. as i move it arround a bit it reconnects. if i flash an older radio will it resolve this prb? and how do i flash an older radio?

spd00 said:
i have the same problem with my DHD, i have stock rooted rom 2.3.3, and my bettery is draining at an alarming rate, cause it always trying to reconnect to wifi network. but the main prb is that wifi signal is strong, as my laptop has excellent signal, but my phone is strange, sometimes it has full signal, sometimes it drops and completely disconnects from wifi. as i move it arround a bit it reconnects. if i flash an older radio will it resolve this prb? and how do i flash an older radio?
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You need to be Radio S-OFF to flash the radio, but if you didn't have the problem previously just try downgrading with one of the RUU's listed here
which will re-flash the older radio which should put you back to before the upgrade, a work round for now is to turn wi-fi off when not actually using it at least for now. BTW this problem doesn't appear to be present in the GB custom rom's so must be some tweak by HTC that has gone awry.

i've searched trough the forum and found some answers. htc made gb drop wifi connection when the signal drops bellow -88dcbl. cusom roms have a drop limit of 101dcbl. i was on stock (only rooted) GB 2.3.3 . I've downloaded kingdoms custom rom v1.7 intalled it but i get blank screen, only wallpaper, and can't get any further. like unlocking screen and getting in to the menu. would you recommend a custom rom that's most stable for DHD? btw my phone is rooted and all OFF. i flashed like... 4 radios all the same problem, so... stock roms are no good.

spd00 said:
i've searched trough the forum and found some answers. htc made gb drop wifi connection when the signal drops bellow -88dcbl. cusom roms have a drop limit of 101dcbl. i was on stock (only rooted) GB 2.3.3 . I've downloaded kingdoms custom rom v1.7 intalled it but i get blank screen, only wallpaper, and can't get any further. like unlocking screen and getting in to the menu. would you recommend a custom rom that's most stable for DHD? btw my phone is rooted and all OFF. i flashed like... 4 radios all the same problem, so... stock roms are no good.
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Do not need to change a custom ROM, and there is a wifi connection fix (decrease the drop threshold) flashable patch zip.
Sorry I have forgotten where is it, but I think you can search and find it among the forum.

spd00 said:
i've searched trough the forum and found some answers. htc made gb drop wifi connection when the signal drops bellow -88dcbl. cusom roms have a drop limit of 101dcbl. i was on stock (only rooted) GB 2.3.3 . I've downloaded kingdoms custom rom v1.7 intalled it but i get blank screen, only wallpaper, and can't get any further. like unlocking screen and getting in to the menu. would you recommend a custom rom that's most stable for DHD? btw my phone is rooted and all OFF. i flashed like... 4 radios all the same problem, so... stock roms are no good.
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CM 7 all the way for me, and if you must have sense ARHD is supposedly very good

Use wifi timeout app so phone can sleep properly, without significant drain.
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using XDA App

ghostofcain said:
CM 7 all the way for me, and if you must have sense ARHD is supposedly very good
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i use coredroid v7.0 now... and it's the best rom till now, i've tested 80% or custom roms on this forum. it's the most stable and complete rom. i'm sticking to it.

[Q] Signal Strength Problems

I am using a tmobile hd2 running nand, i followed all the directions to install the radio, which is Radio Leo 2.15.50.14, HARDSPL 2.08, and MAGLDR 1.13. I have tried multiple roms and everything works like it should, except i will lose a signal completely. Sometimes it comes back right away, or after a couple minutes or at the extreme i have to restart my phone.
What i dont understand is that this is my second hd2 since my first one got stolen, and i am running into the same problem. I have tmobile and i have pretty good service, so when my phone doesnt act up the signal strength is full bars, but it will still fade out like that.

This is what you need to do
task 29, reinstall clk/magldr ( i prefer clk, makes it more native android since it boots straight into android.) and than instead of radio 2.15, use 2.12 radio. and then flash rom. i havent experienced data drops, and its fast, and the battery life is super amazing. you wont look back
good luck!

Well i have mostly good reception but when im at my house i lose connection all the time, but when i switch to only 2g i dont have the problem at all. Try it.

well here is my update, i have tried multiple radios, task 29's and stuff, and i have yet to find a radio that gives me a stable connection. i have tried the 2.15, 2.14, and 2.12 and none of them have worked. my network type is set to 3g preferred. i live in central minnesota in the usa with tmobile and should have good signal, so i dont know what is wrong.

I've been having the same issue ever since I started using my HD2 a few days ago with AmeriCan build, 2.15.50.14, HARDSPL 2.08, and MAGLDR 1.13

not sure if this will work for everyone and so far it has been a couple of days and i have not have any drops and the signal stays at full bars, but here is what i did:
settings-network settings-network operators and then i selected t-mobile and a popup appeared saying "registered on network"
After i did that my signal became stable. i just kind of stumbled across this when i was looking through the settings >.<

I remember reading about a hardware fault that caused horrible connections , i had it bookmarked but i effed up my HD partitions and lost everything . Its a siimple fix , it has to do with the pins connecting the antenna .

Hi,
i am facing the same issues... Signal drops from time to time and signal strength is generally worse even in big cities.
Sometime after a phone call the signal drops completely for a few seconds...
@elesbb: Could you please lookup that hardware fault.. mabye an issue, that is easily fixable....
Thanx,
Nils

floater77 said:
Hi,
i am facing the same issues... Signal drops from time to time and signal strength is generally worse even in big cities.
Sometime after a phone call the signal drops completely for a few seconds...
@elesbb: Could you please lookup that hardware fault.. mabye an issue, that is easily fixable....
Thanx,
Nils
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here is the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1190180