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currently running froyd and am happy with it just wondered whether someone has experience of both if so whats the differences between the two and which is best overall? Not interested in overclocking or anything really technical. thanks
I know someone will say it, so I might as well be first. Rather don't ask people, but instead grab a copy yourself and test it out. It's really based on your own opinion. Each ROM works differently for others.
With features such as nandroid backups these days, there really isn't much of an excuse for not trying out alternative ROMs. If you like it, then keep it. If not, then nandroid back. However, with that said, I think both are on par with eachother and both have achieved outstanding results. It really breaks down to the small things, which you'll need to experience yourself.
ok thanks 1 problem though cant see an option to download the fusion rom?
At this stage its kinda like comparing apples with worms in with pears with worms in..
Yes its different fruit but the bugs are the same..
I haven't tried either so feel free to shoot me down but the reason for this is that I feel devs are focusing on getting everything working (which is a good thing). But because of this I feel theres not really one 2.2 rom that particularly stands out..
I'd love to be proven wrong though!! still rocking out on cm6 nightlies....
both are same
i had fusion first and later came fryod so installed fryod expecting abetter but was really disappointed because both rom turned to be exactly same, same problems in both rom just looked like fryod was a copy of fusion just a different name. now i see fusion got update but fryod is still with same problem.
known issues-
camera is only 3mega pixels
no camera preview and force closes.
crashes when u try to view a flash video
no live wallpaper
no touck key to answer a call.
thiese problems are with both fusion and fryod
CyanogenMod 6.0 is the only Froyo ROM there is, and Fusion and Froyd are each tweaks to the CM6 base. Until CM6 is finalized or Feeyo releases his Froyo-from-source ROM, they're all essentially the same. Villain probably has some kernel tweaks, and Fusion too, but all the bugs are all going to be there.
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CyanogenMod 6.0 is the only Froyo ROM there is, and Fusion and Froyd are each tweaks to the CM6 base. Until CM6 is finalized or Feeyo releases his Froyo-from-source ROM, they're all essentially the same. Villain probably has some kernel tweaks, and Fusion too, but all the bugs are all going to be there.
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Untrue.
I will post a wip copy of [email protected] in a few hours.
No CM-crap; vanilla source.
wrong in fusion rom have touch key to answer call
adwinp said:
Untrue.
I will post a wip copy of [email protected] in a few hours.
No CM-crap; vanilla source.
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Good, just like it should be
developing said:
CyanogenMod 6.0 is the only Froyo ROM there is, and Fusion and Froyd are each tweaks to the CM6 base. Until CM6 is finalized or Feeyo releases his Froyo-from-source ROM, they're all essentially the same. Villain probably has some kernel tweaks, and Fusion too, but all the bugs are all going to be there.
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Dito.
adwinp said:
Untrue.
I will post a wip copy of [email protected] in a few hours.
No CM-crap; vanilla source.
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Some more respect to the real developers.
I suspect your ROM will just be another compiled-straight-from-source-and-nothing-else ROM, right?
Hehe, I guess he got a reputation? Please let my previous comment slip then
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Dito.
Some more respect to the real developers.
I suspect your ROM will just be another compiled-straight-from-source-and-nothing-else ROM, right?
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Not necessarily, and 2: you misunderstood.
There are a few talented devs around, and I don't understand why everybody's copying CM's work.
CM is a great dev, but what pisses me off in the Hero section, is that everybody's ripping his work instead of trying to get it work on their own.
Innovation, make your own path, NOT imitation.
@orangeclanz:
I've checked your previous posts, and correct me if I'm wrong, but you're not really the best placed to comment whatsoever.
Secondly, nobody forces you to try anything. Just stop *****in'.
For those interested: I've finally fixed an issue with some keybindings; I will upload after a few final touches.
Well... I cannot stand the never ending begging for money from Villain and nprussel....
Villain is something like a tabloid newspaper for roms......
anyway, back on topic.
for me, difference is:
fusionrom 2.2 update 4 works great. really solid now. aside from borked camera, once you receive a phone call the trackball light notification works, the froyo-style apps2sd works (with the included cyanogenmod6 improvements allowing any app to be pushed to sd that way). it's very fast (4.5 to 4.7 linpack for me stock withotu the software overclock kernel mod). apps and games run amazingly well on it. has an issue where system.process.media (or similar) fcs after a while and after trying the gallery. I think that might be a gallery issue and maybe will be fixed soon, I don't know though. saw the same issue in froyd once but not again later?
froyd 1.0 works... ok, but it's slow. it has very nice features, the ext partition apps2sd support is nice to have (no manual file moving needed). however there are reasons to like manual moving as well, I'm a control freak, good to let me decide where to put it. but this ext parition method is certainly easier, really fast and transparent. nice. however the kernel is slow, 3.5 linpack (slow for froyo). also lots of random slowdowns. experimental kernel flash works really well and is very fast (got 5.1 linpack at 729 mHz on my phone). I did encounter some issues, not sure if it was my clock speed (which was always fine @ 729 on 2.1 roms but could be the issue still with jit froyo pushing it harder maybe). issues were google nav and some 3d games just quitting without warning and without fc messages. just quitting. google nav was serious, I was driving and it was just... gone after a few minutes. game was annoying, was playing monopoly, 20 minutes of playing, then just gone with no record of gameplay :-(. again that could be my cpu speed setting though, haven't tried further.
both ahve borked camera and no video (since video is just a recording of the screen preview... why on earth can't they write a REAL video recorder for android on the hero??? it should be possible... stupid screen capture video...)
Having tried both Froyd and Fusion, I went back to the CM nightly builds. The 20/07 build is pretty much there with everything except the camera and fb sync working. Have sorted this by using camera magic and syncmypix.
for me, this one is fast snappy and definitely the best 2.2 around currently.
@adwinp. U right.I'm not in position to comment here.so do u. Pls show some respect to other dev. As a dump user here.I do appreciate and respect all Dev works. At least I don't called it CRAP.
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adwinp said:
Not necessarily, and 2: you misunderstood.
There are a few talented devs around, and I don't understand why everybody's copying CM's work.
CM is a great dev, but what pisses me off in the Hero section, is that everybody's ripping his work instead of trying to get it work on their own.
Innovation, make your own path, NOT imitation.
@orangeclanz:
I've checked your previous posts, and correct me if I'm wrong, but you're not really the best placed to comment whatsoever.
Secondly, nobody forces you to try anything. Just stop *****in'.
For those interested: I've finally fixed an issue with some keybindings; I will upload after a few final touches.
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Well, then just don't call it CM-crap..
Yes, I agree that there are way too many CM-Mod-mods arround.. And they are all the same +/- some apks.
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Well, then just don't call it CM-crap..
Yes, I agree that there are way too many CM-Mod-mods arround.. And they are all the same +/- some apks.
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Once, more, you're misinterpreting; crap was related to the CM-rips, not CM itself.
I hope I made myself clear.
by the way, this thread really should be about which is better between:
froyd
fusionrom
cm-nightlies
the cm-nightlies are, imho, ahead of the rest. but they're nightly builds so you take a big gamble when you grab one and install it. However if there is going to be a successful camera fix my bet is that it will come from the cm-nightlies for hero team.
Just saying.... but for me I'm running fusion until some major progress happens from... someone
cheers
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Well... I cannot stand the never ending begging for money from Villain and nprussel....
Villain is something like a tabloid newspaper for roms......
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There's no mention of me asking for money, nor have I charged for any release. There's no begging, whatsoever infact. I mention it in my sig - but who doesn't?
I am a bit fed up of all the bad-mouthing I'm getting around here recently. We've not ripped anyone off.
We're in the process of making some pretty major changes/fixes to FroydVillain, and one of our developers is currently re-compiling a Froyo ROM from source - ie, pure vanilla.
As for which ROM is better... they're different. When we release our new kernel, expect over 5 mflops at a stable OC of around 748 Mhz.
Test them both, but before you make a judgement on Froyd, test it with the new (fixed) kernel - which is significantly better than the one Lox released. Ninpo over at the VillainROM forums will be more than happy to explain what makes it significantly faster if anyone's interested!
Anyway... less hate is definitely required around here
Hi guys,
I came across this video posted here that shows CyaongenMod 7 RC-0 working on HTC Desire Z. According to the demonstrator in the video, there are no CyanogenMod settings (of course if it's RC-0, you wont have them), Camera not working and also Wi-Fi and GPS act stupid. I believe that its a raw compilation from CM git. What do you all think?
I think he's gonna call it CM 6.2 as 2.3 isn't really groundbreaking. Last update.zip I made from the source it had graphical glitches and no usb,gps,wifi,bluetooth, etc support
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Seconded. My guess is 6.2. Or maybe 6.3, to match up the version numbers..? Haha.
Cyanogen is going to make it 7.0, said so on his twitter
When you compile the gingerbread CM build from git, it says CM 7.0-RC0
i don't see many new things in gingerbread, even cyanogen doesn't use original launcher . Only some touch in gui..., no revolutionary interface...( i still remember google said, no custom launcher again in gingerbread )
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I think he's gonna call it CM 6.2 as 2.3 isn't really groundbreaking. Last update.zip I made from the source it had graphical glitches and no usb,gps,wifi,bluetooth, etc support
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LOL. Nope. CM7
Wish the whole video wasn't about showing what's broken though
After all the work done today, it's down to the camcorder and a minor GL glitch that causes Quadrant to crash. The camcorder is broken on every platform except for the Nexus S. I think it's fixable, and I have it partially working.
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Wish the whole video wasn't about showing what's broken though
After all the work done today, it's down to the camcorder and a minor GL glitch that causes Quadrant to crash. The camcorder is broken on every platform except for the Nexus S. I think it's fixable, and I have it partially working.
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Oh yay! I haven't attempted to compile source since power went out (along with cell towers) and the power company won't have it fixed until xmas so I'm currently running off of generator =/ I tried doing a repo sync earlier but got impatient and will probably set it to run over night
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What are the difference.
The first rumours about gingerbread talked about "great" changes...
I can't hardly "see" any changes.
I am wondering what the real changes are. Does it work faster? Does it has another feel? What does it do with the battery?
I was looking forward to gingerbread, but i am afraid it is going to be dissappointing.
(PS sorry for my ****ty english.)
BTW love the hard work of the cyanogenmod team.
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The first rumours about gingerbread talked about "great" changes...
I can't hardly "see" any changes.
I am wondering what the real changes are. Does it work faster? Does it has another feel? What does it do with the battery?
I was looking forward to gingerbread, but i am afraid it is going to be dissappointing.
(PS sorry for my ****ty english.)
BTW love the hard work of the cyanogenmod team.
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apparently those have been delayed to 3.0 >:O
if the changes have been delayed to honeycomb, then what was the point of releasing Gingerbread...
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if the changes have been delayed to honeycomb, then what was the point of releasing Gingerbread...
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Security updates, patches, and here and there things.
From what I have seen there are a few kool things but I guess we will no when it comes out. I'm using virtuos 0.8.1 havnt used any other rom I'm thinking if cynogen gets gingerbread then I think I'm jumping ship. The rom I'm using now is nice and pretty but there is a lot of updates and bugs have to update or reset the phone way to often sorry evil and rmk
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if the changes have been delayed to honeycomb, then what was the point of releasing Gingerbread...
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There are some seriously awesome things for developers to use, the biggest are the new native APIs that finally puts Android on par with iPhone for gaming. Other than the dark theme and SIP calling, all the good stuff in G is under the hood.
cheers cyanogen. its cool to see you still on xda after all this time.
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There are some seriously awesome things for developers to use, the biggest are the new native APIs that finally puts Android on par with iPhone for gaming. Other than the dark theme and SIP calling, all the good stuff in G is under the hood.
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Your forgetting about the EQ in the music app... I'm most excited about that =)
Earlier, I was most excited about smoother scrolling, but with virtuous and OCed to 1.4 ghz it's smooth as butter! I LOVE THIS PHONE
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Wish the whole video wasn't about showing what's broken though
After all the work done today, it's down to the camcorder and a minor GL glitch that causes Quadrant to crash. The camcorder is broken on every platform except for the Nexus S. I think it's fixable, and I have it partially working.
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I'm so eager to use the actual gingerbread keyboard! =D with the cool highlighting and shtuff. =)
I am using cm 6.1 stable with a nexus s theme which gives it a little bit of a gingerbread look and I like it. Everything is smooth and clean
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Sometimes interpreting all the [tags] and t3Rmin0logy in the dev forum can be a bit of a headache for us non-dev types who are just looking for the latest and greatest ROMs and kernels to try out without necessarily compiling something from scratch.
So that's why I made this post. I'm really interested in trying out a Gingerbread 2.3 ROM but I'm not sure what the general consensus is on this without reading several hundred posts/replies.
Can anyone with insight summarize?
Basically, you won't have a stable gingerbread release until:
- CM7 is declared stable (for AOSP roms)
- HTC releases a gingerbread ROM themselves (for Sense roms)
Neither of those appear to be about to happen in the immediate future. So for now, I don't think any of them are officially considered stable for daily use.
Ive been using the ROM in this thread as my daily driver for a while now. Enjoy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877653
Been running evervolv since the beginning and I use it as my daily. I absolutely love it. The only problem right now is the gps works great for some and off and on for others but the developer has added the app gps status to the newest build and the gps seems very stable now as a result. Also, as of right now the camcorder doesnt work but it is being worked on. Other than that u just have the other issues like u would with any other aosp rom. Which is no 4g and no hdmi. But if your wanting to try gb I highly recommend this rom. The developer is awesome and it's been updated almost nightly. Like I said, I've been using it everyday since it's been out and haven't regretted it one bit. Hope that helps.
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Basically, you won't have a stable gingerbread release until:
- CM7 is declared stable (for AOSP roms)
- HTC releases a gingerbread ROM themselves (for Sense roms)
Neither of those appear to be about to happen in the immediate future. So for now, I don't think any of them are officially considered stable for daily use.
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I would have to disagree with that. Like I just stated, I've been using evervolv as my daily and haven't thought twice about it. Besides gps being a little shaky and no video recording I would have to say it's been as stable as any other rom I've ran and I've ran almost all of them.
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i'm running the cm7 rc0 right now and it is pretty sweet. i wont be using it as a daily driver because i love sense's widgets especially the task one. but if you like aosp roms then it is your dream.
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Ive been using the ROM in this thread as my daily driver for a while now. Enjoy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877653
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You don't need video recording or GPS? Or is that fixed now? I've been watching the thread (not lately though because of the holiday) and all that still needs work. I'd love to use this ROM as a daily driver but I need video rec. and GPS/Latitude/Sprint Family Locator are a must.
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I would have to disagree with that. Like I just stated, I've been using evervolv as my daily and haven't thought twice about it. Besides gps being a little shaky and no video recording I would have to say it's been as stable as any other rom I've ran and I've ran almost all of them.
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then I wouldn't consider that "stable"..
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then I wouldn't consider that "stable"..
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Well video and gps aren't really that important to me but actually gps is working fine for me on evervolv's latest release. So for what I need it to do it's extremely stable. Just depends on what your needs are.
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Well video and gps aren't really that important to me but actually gps is working fine for me on evervolv's latest release. So for what I need it to do it's extremely stable. Just depends on what your needs are.
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Shaky GPS + no video = GARBAGE. I don't think most people use the Evo just for phone calls. Myn's rom with the gingerbread keyboard has been more then enough to hold me over until he comes out with a 2.3 rom. CM is cool n all but no 4G or HDMI is wack. If you bought the evo to use all its features and not because it looks like an oversized iphone, just stick with Myn and try to be patient.
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I'm so sorry I like aosp more than 4g. 4g only makes tethering faster our browser and stuff will still process at low kilobit rates
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I've been using the GB rom posted by AndroidBall as a daily driver and have been very pleased. Camcorder FC and obviously no 4G (none in my area anyway) and no HDMI (no need), but otherwise rock solid and incredibly fast. The most impressive aspect of GB, or at least this rom, has been the battery life. As good as any rom I've ever tried and way better than any AOSP rom I've used previously. That alone is reason enough to stick with a somewhat incomplete version of GB for now.
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Shaky GPS + no video = GARBAGE. I don't think most people use the Evo just for phone calls. Myn's rom with the gingerbread keyboard has been more then enough to hold me over until he comes out with a 2.3 rom. CM is cool n all but no 4G or HDMI is wack. If you bought the evo to use all its features and not because it looks like an oversized iphone, just stick with Myn and try to be patient.
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mmm....and patience just oozes from your post.
assuming someone is able to read the OP on a given thread, they should be able to identify what is working vs not working. so long as the 'not workings' do not impact that user then it's fine.
some folks don't live in 4G areas and others (like myself) live in a 4G area but haven't missed it that much. although a second radio would be handy so Trillian doesn't loose connection when i get a phone call. Other folks feel that 4G is either a requisite or their god-given-right (the last one usually points out the $10 fee as their landmark).
and i haven't gone out to buy that $30 cable so i can watch 720p movies on my 1080p TV. my home network is setup to handle that task.
some folks just plain don't like using Sense or prefer to support/use ASOP as much as possible. many folks have commented on the speed and fun-features of CM.
that being said, the CM7RC0 is stable for standard usage (ie: it doesn't randomly reboot or try to melt your sdcard or format your home computer and is no long likely to try to kill your kitten. it has not reached RC1, which kinda means it's not done cooking (so...keep an eye on the kitten). I would expect a RC1 in the not too distant future. i've been using this thread .... just make sure to read the OP for things working vs not working.
when CM7 is released it should come wimax and maybe the upgraded hdmi.
what i like about Lithid's thread is that he doesn't try to take responsibly for the ROM. he just gave some good instructions on how to compile from the CM repo so that i can do it myself whenever i like. not that i'm likely to continue once the nightlys are back.
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Shaky GPS + no video = GARBAGE. I don't think most people use the Evo just for phone calls. Myn's rom with the gingerbread keyboard has been more then enough to hold me over until he comes out with a 2.3 rom. CM is cool n all but no 4G or HDMI is wack. If you bought the evo to use all its features and not because it looks like an oversized iphone, just stick with Myn and try to be patient.
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I wouldnt call them garbage but I agree with you in the point you made about not using a rom thats not 100% functional. Pretty much the main reason I stick with the sense roms.
I guess I just like my phones features to actually function. Guess that's a wild idea. $30 for micro hdmi to hdmi? Try $5.80 @ monoprice for 10 ft. and good quality too. Don't wanna watch 720p on your 1080p tv? No neither would I but you might wanna play a game you have on your phone, including all the roms you could have, on your tv. Or you could play 720p video that you shot on your phone on your big hdtv, but your rom might not even record video so so much for that idea. Why would you not want those things to work.
Its like: I got a keyboard to sell you, trouble is only 20 letters still work, but you probably don't use those anyway, still want it?
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Please try and stop being so defensive, Welsh. 4g and HDMI out are really cool features. I don't think anyone is going to argue that point with you. But for a lot of people, they are just not used much, if at all. Do I want to be able to plug my phone into my TV? Heck yes. And I have a cable for it. But why on earth would I ever need to do that? I have 5 computers I can hook up to my tv, plus a 360, ps3, wii, etc.
The only real use of the hdmi out, at least for me, is that I can take it to someone else's house and plug it into their tv, but I've never done that. I doubt I ever will, either, so it's a feature that I personally don't use.
Then there's 4g, which is another really cool feature that doesn't get much use. I have 4g where I'm at, but I also almost always have wifi, too, so again, I almost never use the feature. Also remember that a lot of people don't even get 4g service, so they can't use it.
A better keyboard analogy is this: I've got a keyboard to sell you. It's probably the nicest keyboard you'll ever use, but it has no function keys or a caps lock.
As long as you don't actually use the function keys or the caps lock, then the keyboard is a great choice. Similarly, Cyanogenmod is (in my opinion, of course) the best rom for this phone. Sure, it's missing some features (features that are being worked on, by the way). But I don't use them, so I'm not going to miss them. There's no need to get hostile.
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I guess I just like my phones features to actually function. Guess that's a wild idea. $30 for micro hdmi to hdmi? Try $5.80 @ monoprice for 10 ft. and good quality too. Don't wanna watch 720p on your 1080p tv? No neither would I but you might wanna play a game you have on your phone, including all the roms you could have, on your tv. Or you could play 720p video that you shot on your phone on your big hdtv, but your rom might not even record video so so much for that idea. Why would you not want those things to work.
Its like: I got a keyboard to sell you, trouble is only 20 letters still work, but you probably don't use those anyway, still want it?
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Problem is nothing is being sold or paid and there is no implied 100% functionality from the developers. I'd almost say if you want 100%, Sense and taking it a little further, Stock OEM Rom is your only real bet. Even the cleanest custom Sense Roms have little quirks.
So being overly critical of the "gifts" being given (by way of these Roms) is a little sh*tty but don't get me wrong, to each their own, people can gripe to the high heavens as it's just how people can be.
Everevolv has been very solid for me but I will deal with no 4G and no video recording (are these really that big of a deal to so many people?) and the Maps isn't essential BUT of all the things not working in this ASOP rom is the biggest in my mind... so I just don't get lost.
Anyone that has been in the "flashdance" game for awhile knows what we are getting ourselves into. If you aren't prepared, don't join this crowd. If you have a problem with a rom and would consider dogging it, then the easy thing to do is NOT FLASH IT. I really do think its bad taste to flame on about something you aren't paying and was provided freely and certainly not with malicious intent.
Maybe I'm just getting soft...
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I would have to disagree with that. Like I just stated, I've been using evervolv as my daily and haven't thought twice about it. Besides gps being a little shaky and no video recording I would have to say it's been as stable as any other rom I've ran and I've ran almost all of them.
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I guess what I meant was more about it being "officially" stable. I don't think any of the developers of the GB roms are advertising it as a stable build yet. Evervolv isn't even being called a beta yet -- the dev is quite clear in calling it an alpha. That doesn't mean it can't meet your needs just fine for daily use. But nobody's claiming to have a ROM that's intended to be as solid as a 2.2 ROM yet.
I also think that it's fair to say that until CM, which I think it looked to as the definitive AOSP ROM developer (no offense to those behind MIUI or any of the other devs) says that CM7 is ready for prime time, it's still not quite there. And it's definitely fair to say that until HTC releases a GB update (or at least we see a beta leak), we won't see any Sense GB ROMs, at least nothing beyond an experimental hybrid of the two.
I may have also read too much into the subject of the OP. The body makes it clear (s)he is looking to go cutting edge. But the subject said stable for daily use, and I read that in the more stricter sense of whether something is declared stable.
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I guess what I meant was more about it being "officially" stable. I don't think any of the developers of the GB roms are advertising it as a stable build yet. Evervolv isn't even being called a beta yet -- the dev is quite clear in calling it an alpha. That doesn't mean it can't meet your needs just fine for daily use. But nobody's claiming to have a ROM that's intended to be as solid as a 2.2 ROM yet.
I also think that it's fair to say that until CM, which I think it looked to as the definitive AOSP ROM developer (no offense to MIUI or anyone other devs) says that CM7 is ready for prime time, it's still not quite there. And it's definitely fair to say that until HTC releases a GB update (or at least we see a beta leak), we won't see any Sense GB ROMs, at least nothing beyond an experimental hybrid of the two.
I may have also read too much into the subject of the OP. The body makes it clear (s)he is looking to go cutting edge. But the subject said stable for daily use, and I read that in the more stricter sense of whether something is declared stable.
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True. I suppose "Stable" really is subjective. I have no boot loops or randomness FC's or reboots, that's stable to me. A romrom that is stable yet completely unfunctional is no good but stable and hitting on most of the core functions of the phone works for somw, not for others.
Good post and who knows, the OP may have yet another idea of what stable is to them.
welshwarriorsf said:
I guess I just like my phones features to actually function. Guess that's a wild idea. $30 for micro hdmi to hdmi? Try $5.80 @ monoprice for 10 ft. and good quality too. Don't wanna watch 720p on your 1080p tv? No neither would I but you might wanna play a game you have on your phone, including all the roms you could have, on your tv. Or you could play 720p video that you shot on your phone on your big hdtv, but your rom might not even record video so so much for that idea. Why would you not want those things to work.
Its like: I got a keyboard to sell you, trouble is only 20 letters still work, but you probably don't use those anyway, still want it?
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.. desiring to have all the features work on your device makes total sense to me. but why should i cry over spilled milk when i don't use/drink milk?
.. like cole said, the only time i can see a use for the hdmi is if put a movie on my sdcard and went over to a friends house. yeah, that would be kinda slick. but i'd have to make sure to remember to bring the cable with me. which if you knew me...would make you laugh. prolly should get a larger sdcard as well.
.. i play real games on my big screen not AngryBirds or PenguinToss. i have taken only 3 or 4 video recordings with my evo since i got it opening weekend. all of them were me just testing/playing with settings.
.. if i like the keyboard and i don't use those keys, sure. the reverse would be like saying it's stoopid to buy a sports car (Corvette, Ferrari, Bugatti, etc) because you cannot use the primary feature set. or the avg single person using a SUV for their daily commute should take the train or ride a bike/moped.
do you you see what is trying to be conveyed here?
not everyone uses the device in the same way. this is a fine and wonderful thing. so long as we are aware that others may try to use the device in ways that we don't even think of. it's wise of us to remember this and be open to different utilization needs/desires. for example, one person is unable to migrate to CM6 due to no 4G. for them 4G was a real big deal since they tethered their pc to it everyday. i have yet to tether my device other than to show off. for someone else, they require GPS to be rock solid, i use it rarely. i do like the idea that i can compile my own OS, most folks don't give a ****. i like that i'm running an AOSP ROM, many folks don't know what it means or why some consider it important. do you see where i'm coming from? i don't slam your Sense based ROM's because they are slow and kludgey compared to CM. actually, if you want to know the gods honest truth...what i miss MOST from the Sense based ROMs....all over Copy/Paste and integrated FB picture sync to the contact list. those are features that feel i 'gave up' in order to run CM, not HDMI or 4G.
oh yeah, we are also discussing a RC0 ROM. do you know what RC0 means? it means the Dev's consider the ROM not ready for public consumption. it hasn't even reached official RC1 (aka: Beta). and i'll still run it before i run a Sense based ROM. every time i load a Sense ROM, my device is back onto CM before the following sunset occurs. but that is MY choice. it is MY preference. now gfowygdfsbrtbs.
Firstly, I'd like to make the standard "I love our devs" statement. When I first purchased my Vibrant, I loved the hardware, and absolutely hated the software.
Freezing, glitching music, non functional GPS, you name it; a myriad of issues. Then I flashed my first ROM, and fell in love with it. You guys turn a very mediocre phone, into arguably one of the best phones available, including what's been released after.
This post is more out of curiosity than anything. I currently have Darkies 2.2.1 ROM and it runs like a dream-
How far are we, realistically speaking, to a stable Gingerbread ROM? I follow the current Gingerbread alpha rom threads, and it seems like they aren't making a whole lot of progress. I assume this is because of roadblocks? What is keeping us from moving forward with a Gingerbread rom? Do we need the source released?
Thanks guys.
CM7 beta is now out for the Vibrant. However, that's not what's got me the most excited. The i9000 has recently got a gingerbread ROM leaked from Samsung. This should mean we should see the forums flooded with gingerbread ROMs in the coming days/weeks as soon as somebody can port the kernel over to the vibrant.
i'd say the cm7 is dd-able. no gps is the only real problem i've had, which isn't enough for me to go back to nongingerbread. the external sd doesn't mount, either, but i never used it anyway.... otherwise, sound works, haven't had a problem with data/calls/reboots, camera and video recording work, etc.
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i'd say the cm7 is dd-able. no gps is the only real problem i've had, which isn't enough for me to go back to nongingerbread. the external sd doesn't mount, either, but i never used it anyway.... otherwise, sound works, haven't had a problem with data/calls/reboots, camera and video recording work, etc.
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I would go out on a limb here and say that this is pretty close...
It might be a while before it gets to be a care free DD. The whitehawx and CM iterations both work in theory but they are still pretty raw in terms of total useability.
I say give it a while and we'll see more true GB progress.
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Like I said, the leaked i9000 2.3.2 ROM should have a great effect on the 2.3 GB ROM dev community for the Vibrant.
CM7 is my dd right now, and it actually seems more stable than any other rom I've tried (I had reboots and lockups with bionix when using gps). The tower-based location isn't as accurate as real gps, but is good enough for pulling up directions most of the time. Gps is also supposedly fixed on github, but I think they were saying to hold off on flashing anything from github until they get some issue with the new touchkey driver sorted out.
What are the benefits of GB over Froyo as a daily driver at this point. From what I've read, there's not likely to be any significant performance increase and most of the new features are minor. Other than the cosmetic differences, what's so bad about being stuck on Froyo?
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What are the benefits of GB over Froyo as a daily driver at this point. From what I've read, there's not likely to be any significant performance increase and most of the new features are minor. Other than the cosmetic differences, what's so bad about being stuck on Froyo?
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nothing is bad about being stuck on froyo. i thought people making a big deal about the lock screen animation were being ridiculous, but it really is damn cool. it's just the little things like that, just like it's the little things that make you like a certain rom over another.
that, and 'why not'? they keep making new versions, and we'll keep finding a way to get it on our phones.
i went on i9000 forum and flashed insanity 7.1 gingerbread and it ran fine ...makes me thin we are soooo colse to get it on vibrant hmmmm i say two more weeks ......thats what methink.
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i went on i9000 forum and flashed insanity 7.1 gingerbread and it ran fine ...makes me thin we are soooo colse to get it on vibrant hmmmm i say two more weeks ......thats what methink.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=976318
pretty much there
So i was thinking of changin my rom to Cm7 just for android 2.3, is it laggy? dose it drain the battery more ?? Advice please
Im using CM7 and im loving it my battery seems to be better with cm7 running and its not laggy. However i did mess with the cpu settings and my battery died proper quick but now ive restored its all good again. Try it out and see if you like it
IMHO CM7 provides loads of additional features to the Buzz handset. O.k, as a custom rom it has bugs here and there but that's par for the course and most major ones get sorted. CM7 is the way forward ... there are new roms challenging the top spot but aren't quite there yet. You can always backup current rom and restore it if you don't get on with CM7 so no harm in trying it!
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As said above, I would say to give it a try. Take a Nandroid backup beforehand, and, if CM7 doesn't suit you, you can always get back to your backed up Stock ROM.
Its definitely worth switching though. I am extremely pleased with it.
Only bad thing about CM7 is the font size. It is extremely small that it looks pixelated and takes out the wow out of the UI.
HTC sense looks best IMO, only reason I root is to get app2SD. Thats it.
I always use stock ROMs. Sorting out the bugs itself is a big time eater. I hate it.
Wtf is wrong with the font size on CM7? It's the same for me and was the same on stock/wildpuzzle... and bugs? pfft lol, that's why you stick with the stable release.
Anyway it's your choice, if you're happy with sense/stock, stick with stock or wildpuzzle or the DK sense rom, if you don't like it and wanna try something new and has heaps of themes, get CM7.
Besides, Font Size can be increased as per your will in CM7.
stay with the stock rom, is better, CM7 allways have a lot of bugs
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Wtf is wrong with the font size on CM7? It's the same for me and was the same on stock/wildpuzzle...
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Most of the designs on CM7 are made for high resolution phones, Wildfire having a lower resolution doesn't look great. Post screen shots of your app-drawer, desktop so on.
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and bugs? pfft lol, that's why you stick with the stable release.
wanna try something new and has heaps of themes, get CM7.
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Bugs are not enough reason to ditch an OS ?. One bug scares people away. Just one bug.
I am not a developer, just an average user. If you can't satisfy me, then you won't sell anything big. Unfortunately, its so.
I don't get orgasm about any new version of anything. I want things that work seamlessly. Changing versions without solving bugs won't help.
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Most of the designs on CM7 are made for high resolution phones, Wildfire having a lower resolution doesn't look great. Post screen shots of your app-drawer, desktop so on.
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This was true, not any longer, after nhnt11 made the required changes to make CM7 look like it is supposed to on LDPI Devices.
Anyway, its unfortunate that CM didn't suit you, but that is exactly why I think all posts in this thread ask the OP to try out CM, No ROM is perfect, everyone knows this, but, a particular bug for someone may be no big deal to another person. It's all about preference. As for me, even I am an average user, not a dev, and, yes, I am not saying CM is bug free, but, for me, they are no deal breakers.
Who said anything about changing versions? I just said stick to the stable releases, not change whenever a new nightly is released, and if you want the bugs to be resolved, post it to the issue tracker, or tell the devs about the bugs and don't whine about it.
It will get fixed eventually, all you have to do is wait.
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It will get fixed eventually, all you have to do is wait.
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I spend money/time on something not to wait(spend more time) but to use it. You still don't seem to be able to understand the viewpoint of someone else. And haven't posted any screenshots. What else would be a way to compare ?
Stable release ?. The number of stable releases devs make kinda doesn't go with "stable" actually. There hasn't been a developer version of ROM without bugs.
I go for perfection, bugs just puts me off.
A guy asked which he should use Stock or CM7. And we gave our views from experience with both. As 3xeno said, its all about preferences.
Even this stock ROM has bugs, but chances are big that you will find some more on CM7, altough I've never worked on it. But the nice thing about it that on CM bugs will be fixed eventualy, whilest on stock ROM you're left alone with it..
Perhaps a first step is to go away from sense. I liked sense, but installed Homelauncher pro just to try, and I have found out that I liked it even more than sense. I am now in the stage where I gradualy change all the stock things on my ROM (for so far it is possible). So I know now that I ceryainly will change my ROM once I can.
So you really have to try: you don't realize what can get better unless you have seen other options. And if you are hesitating because of the 'big' step of changinf ROM, perhaps try to change some typic stock things. You will see for yourself if you want to go and see more of what other ROMs have to offer you.
Or that is at least my oppinion: as stated, I've always worked and am still working on the stock ROM.
Erwin