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R2BA020 review

No matter how much SE can piss me off, I have to say they did a good job with the last update R2BA020 .
I did fully charge my battery, did not use any task killer or such only kept adw launcher. With a normal use the battery last me a little over 48 hours I was at 10% when i devided to recharge it again.
-Around 2 hours of video
-4 hours of reading with Aldiko
-1 hours of internet
-Around 50 txt msg
-20 call 5-15 min each
-3 Pictures
-4 Hour of music while reading
-Email and weather widget run to update every hour
-Fancy widget running
-Bluetooth on all the time
-Gps and wifi was off all the time
Bottom line it’s impressive, now I really can enjoy my device without carrying a charger and searching for an outlet all the time .

I completely agree, the 020 firmware is fantastic. My usage differs slightly but even using Bluetooth to listen to Spotify all day didn't drain my battery. Neither did using my phone as a wireless 3G modem with Wifi tethering.

Well, yes, nice improvements but the WIFI is still using a lot of juice

wifi is confirmed using alot.

the phonebook is now kind of stupid...
when you click a person's name, their contact shows up, and when you tap their phone #...instead of calling that person directly it would bring you to the dialer screen with the # entered in and you need to press "call" to call the person...
i mean..if im in someones contact page and i tap their #..im pretty sure i want or need to call them....i really dont understand the point of bringing the dialer screen up again..pretty stupid on SE's part in my opinion

Well a quicker step would be to long hold their name and call them
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Well, I've rooted my device yesterday, started using it massively around 3 or 4 am to reconfigure everything and now its battery is at 8%:
throughout all the process wifi was used for internet (when needed, of course), 3g/gps/bluetooth turned off.
* Installed a lot of apps, some using barcode scanner, some using appbrain.
* Synced with google
* Restored a backup
* Reconfigured a lot of apps
* around 6 sms
* tweeted 2 or 3 times
* 5 to 10 calls 10m~ each
* listened to music through the day (around 2 hours of music, simple last fm scrobbler was used to cache the data, didn't scrobbled yet)
* read a pdf book around 1 hour
* some random usage through the day, like checking online stuff.
* Since I go to work using the subway, the signal reception is quite poor, so the phone prolly was searching for signal during the day.
Even wifi draining a lot of battery, the phone battery was quite good for everything that I've done today.
Apart from the battery the whole system feels better, all the UI customizations done by SE are faster (timescape, mediascape, dialer and so on).
I can say, like all of you, SE did a good job on this update. I can't wait for the Q3 2.1 release. Seriously, I want 720p video recording so much

Greetings guys,
Whats the difference R2BA020 and B2FA020.
Thanks for your kind reply.
Vatis

has anyone noticed any difference in call quality - in call volume especially
this was the thing i looked forward to getting the most out of this upgrade but no much difference i notice, still can't hear very well in any outside environment
i hope this issue becomes resolved...

I usually use headphones while outdoors, so I can't help here. Indoors it's been quite good, at least for me.

dpk0875 said:
has anyone noticed any difference in call quality - in call volume especially
this was the thing i looked forward to getting the most out of this upgrade but no much difference i notice, still can't hear very well in any outside environment
i hope this issue becomes resolved...
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I was on fw 16 and it was a litter bit low but still fine, didn't notice any difference between 16 and 20 tho.

never heard of B2FA020 - Think it might have been a typo on someone's part?

Screen off while in call.
Not to start a new thread, I'll pin my question to this one. I've updated to R2BA020 (O2 Irl branded) and noticed that whenever in call the screen is not turning off, as it used to before. Did anyone else experienced this problem?
Regards, masterofp.

check your screen time out settings in the settings/ display/ screen timeout section.. it may be that it's reverted to a longer timeout period or to not time out at all.

im_iceman said:
check your screen time out settings in the settings/ display/ screen timeout section.. it may be that it's reverted to a longer timeout period or to not time out at all.
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Nope, still @ 15 seconds...

Though overall battery usage seems to be better with R2BA020 (Rogers), I've run into an odd issue:
When tethering via PdaNet, my battery drains at an alarming rate. It dropped 20% in the past hour. This wasn't the case before I upgraded (was using stock Rogers firmware before) - it would drain, but much more slowly, going from 100% to maybe 55% over the course of the 8 hours I was at work tethered. It's almost as if it's not charging at all via USB (or is charging much more slowly than before).
I checked, and the phone does register as charging while tethered. So I'm not sure what exactly the issue is. Nothing else has changed.
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Turned off PdaNet during a meeting I had today just to make sure my X10 is charging properly via USB, and sure enough it is (gained 12% charge over the hour).

after updating into R2BA020, my sim tool kit and play now were gone. Now, I want them back (especially STK). Does anyone know how to do it? My X10 is not rooted yet.

I'm pretty happy with the new Facebook app. It got rid of the "Camera" icon on the mainscreen and replaced it with "Inbox", which makes so much more sense.
My ringtones got reset, and I noticed that Astro File Manager lost a few file associations. I'm prompted for all sorts of default apps etc now, but it's just a minor annoyance.
I did the update through the Sony Ericsson PC Software. The first boot after update took a very long time on the Rogers splash screen. I was afraid the device was bricked for a couple of minutes. I guess it was just the first boot, and the Xperia was restoring all my user data.

Does anyone have comparison between R2BA020 and R2BA023? appreciate if it includes benchmarking between them.

masterofp said:
Not to start a new thread, I'll pin my question to this one. I've updated to R2BA020 (O2 Irl branded) and noticed that whenever in call the screen is not turning off, as it used to before. Did anyone else experienced this problem?
Regards, masterofp.
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yes, Am also facing the same problem

Calendar rinsing the battery?

Just got my Galaxy S yesterday, but had big problems with the Samsung apps right out of the box.
The main launcher would repeatedly lock up, it was totally unusable. After being frozen for a few minutes I would be able to kill twlauncher process, then it would start up again and run for a few seconds before freezing. I managed to download LauncherPro from the market place to replace it, which is much better.
However, the calendar is causing me grief now. It takes a long time to load, and is not particularly responsive, but the big issue is the battery usage.
1 hour 40 since unplugging and I'm down to 50% battery left (from a full overnight charge) - calendar is responsible for 17% of this(!) with 47 minutes of CPU usage. What is going on?!
Any advice on how to either fix this, or blitz the Samsung calendar app and use the standard google one?

Hi Meza1,
First thing to be aware of is that it takes about 5-7 days before the battery starts to settle down, the first 2 days are a little scary.
Your launcher locking up doesnt sound normal, so I'd keep an eye on that.
As for calendar, I've not noticed it being an issue. The usual battery hogs are when apps are set to high frequency updates. So recently I installed twitter on a 15min update and it took my battery from 2-3days standby down to 6hours!
You could reset your phone to factory and start again and if its still locking up you might want to get it exchanged. We all suffer lag of a few seconds here and there which we hope will be fixed, but not to the level you've just reported.

Root your phone and install "AutoKiller". Great app, it automatically cleans out your ram and uneeded background applications. Phone runs smoothly with no lag. I use "LauncherPro" instead of "TouchWiz".
My GPS also fixes almost instantly, less than 30 secs in most cases. This is in both Google Maps and Co-Pilot.

I really think that it would be unwise to root the phone at this stage, because it would appear to have problems that are not seen on most SGS's and therefore the chances are that the phone needs to be returned.
This would not be possible if "rooted".

Thanks for the responses. I think I'll try one of the lag-fix ROMs that are being mentioned and see how it goes. Is there a way to back up my apps and settings before doing this?

I would agree with Geryatrix and hold off rooting or upgrading your phone just yet, in case you need to return it.

[Q] SGS2 Overheating?

I've been having a few issues with a couple of games freezing and have also had the phone get quite hot, particularly around the camera end. The two games I've had freeze up a lot are Fruit Slice and Pinball Classic, neither are spectacular graphics wise. Basically the games just freeze up and either I'm ejected to the home screen or I have to power off/restart. Occasionally I do get the "Force Close" box, but not very often, this contrary to what I would expect if it were just a normal bug related issue. sometimes it crashes after 5 mins or so, other times straight away. What makes me think it might be overheating is that once it does freeze up, it will do so again almost instantly if I relaunch. The rest of the phone seems okay in operation, I've run a few benchmarks and stress tests, all run okay so far. However (and it is a BIG however), once the phone has got warm, if I go to adjust my screen brightness I am limited to how high I can raise it and receive the following message: "To avoid overheating, maximum brightness has been reduced" (I've attached a screen print below).
Does anybody else get these issues or that message?

Got that "To avoid overheating..." message too while using Navigon Mobile Navigator inside my car (attached to charger).
In some other post I also read about a message like "To avoid overheating, the charging process has been paused", but this depends on the temperature of the battery only (I think).
Regarding the crashing games, that might be a problem of the game. But I had some crashing games, too, but I could not find a relation to the temperature of the phone.
Anyway, it could still be a heat problem.
In my opinion it would had be better for samsung to make the phone some mm thicker to better deal with heat and including a more powerful battery than just claiming to have the thinnest superphone.
Anyway, its still a great device.

Useful to hear it happens on other handsets, in fact I've now found a few threads talking about the issue happening on other models of samsung phone, such as the Infuse.
On the crashing games front, would you mind trying out Fruit Slice for a bit, to see if it hangs on you? If it dosen't crash after 10 mins or so I would think you're okay.

about overheating
i did experience it
when i left the phone in the car it became very hot and i get the same message

TacticalTimbo said:
On the crashing games front, would you mind trying out Fruit Slice for a bit, to see if it hangs on you? If it dosen't crash after 10 mins or so I would think you're okay.
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I'll try that as soon as I have it back (and if I remember to test), its currently at the repair facility because of a faulty camera.

EvilGeniusHST said:
I'll try that as soon as I have it back (and if I remember to test), its currently at the repair facility because of a faulty camera.
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Cheers, really appreiated. Just to update, I played it again just now, managed 3 games before it froze and kicked me out to the home screen; again no crash dialoge asking force close/wait?! I also checked my temp immediatly after it crashed, using Stability Test V1.5, it reported 31c, which dosen't sound too hot from what I've heard...who knows, cheers agian though!

EvilGeniusHST said:
I'll try that as soon as I have it back (and if I remember to test), its currently at the repair facility because of a faulty camera.
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Cheers, really appreiated. Just to update, I played it again just now, managed 3 games before it froze and kicked me out to the home screen; again no crash dialoge asking force close/wait?! I also checked my temp immediatly after it crashed, using Stability Test V1.5, it reported 31c, which dosen't sound too hot from what I've heard...who knows, cheers agian though!
sorry about the double post

Okay, I've been playing now about 15+ minutes without any problem. The phone doesnt get even hot, just a little bit warm. Using Navigon Navigator it gets a LOT more hotter.
So maybe you should try a factory reset? Or its a faulty phone...
By the way, I had display brightness set to Auto and I'm on german KE7 firmware.

[Q] Freeze and reboot

Hello everbody,
bought 2 weeks ago the Nexus 4 16GB and I'm very happy with it.
But i have the problem, that the device restarts when it is under load, means i play or watch something what needs
the full power of the CPU and GPU.
It happens a lot when i play Iron Man 3 The Official Game or Dead Trigger.
Than the device freezes, can't kill the app or even lock the screen and after 10~ seconds it reboots itself.
Active Wifi, Bluetooth, 3G or not doesn't make any difference.
The only strange thing is, what i discovered after a few crashes, is that the battery gauge stands still before the crash and after the reboot the gauge drops to it assumed level.
Screenshot as attachment.
System: Android 4.3 Stock (with this last mini patch from last week)
Does anyone have a idea how i can fix this?
I tried, to charge the battery while android is off and to turn android at 100% on, but this doesn't help.
Sincerely,
GTrash81

GTrash81 said:
Hello everbody,
bought 2 weeks ago the Nexus 4 16GB and I'm very happy with it.
But i have the problem, that the device restarts when it is under load, means i play or watch something what needs
the full power of the CPU and GPU.
It happens a lot when i play Iron Man 3 The Official Game or Dead Trigger.
Than the device freezes, can't kill the app or even lock the screen and after 10~ seconds it reboots itself.
Active Wifi, Bluetooth, 3G or not doesn't make any difference.
The only strange thing is, what i discovered after a few crashes, is that the battery gauge stands still before the crash and after the reboot the gauge drops to it assumed level.
Screenshot as attachment.
System: Android 4.3 Stock (with this last mini patch from last week)
Does anyone have a idea how i can fix this?
I tried, to charge the battery while android is off and to turn android at 100% on, but this doesn't help.
Sincerely,
GTrash81
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Did you undervolt the CPU?

If this is happening without rooting/etc... then I would definitely get a replacement. It sounds like the processor is overheating and causing a reboot rather than throttling.

Today i checked if the device is getting too hot.
But after 2 minutes playing Iron Man, by 9°C outside (i was on the way to the city, waiting for the train), it rebooted.
So i started the game, deactivated the display and put it on the table. After 4 hours i checked the game and played over 10 minutes without a crash.
So what i think is, that these two don't like Trim (most new feature with 4.3) or the are badly programmed and must reload/refresh objects while playing and Trim must work to clear temporary files.
And they are badly programmed, because i red at the developers page, that a few other people have the same problems.
So excuse me for wasting your time. But hey, to err is human.
Sincerely,
GTrahs81

WIFI LATENCY ISSUE After the B08L update

Has any one noticed the latency of the WiFi radio after the update,
i sent back my first 6P because i figured it was a bad radio.
Negative it was the update
Test for it by doing this:
Launch play store with with the Cell Radio turned off, and watch the load time on the icons for everything, under NORMAL operation they should be bullet fast and when you scroll to unloaded apps it should "almost instantly propagate"
IF it takes more than 2 seconds obviously you are having the problem as well.
Try this in reverse with the Cell on and WIFI off. On cell it will be bullet fast
I dont know why no one has found this bug yet

I think they M build fixes something with wifi but don't hold me to that 100% I remember reading it somewhere if I remember correctly.
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NOPE still sluggish.
bet you 5 bucks you extract the radios from 89d and it works like a mutha fuhhuhhh

Weldzor said:
Has any one noticed the latency of the WiFi radio after the update,
i sent back my first 6P because i figured it was a bad radio.
Negative it was the update
Test for it by doing this:
Launch play store with with the Cell Radio turned off, and watch the load time on the icons for everything, under NORMAL operation they should be bullet fast and when you scroll to unloaded apps it should "almost instantly propagate"
IF it takes more than 2 seconds obviously you are having the problem as well.
Try this in reverse with the Cell on and WIFI off. On cell it will be bullet fast
I dont know why no one has found this bug yet
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I don't notice any latency with the Play Store, it loads in a couple of seconds, and I have a pretty slow internet connection. I experience some pretty bad issues with Chrome though, it won't load pages at all sometimes, I mainly experience this on XDA (in saying that though my Chrome usage is 99% XDA).

Still Latent as all hell, i counted a good 20 seconds before it started to download the speedtest.net app. this is really starting to piss me off

Mine doesn't seem to have any latency but my WiFi DL speeds sit around 170-200mbs with my AC5300 router. I don't have any issues on slower networks either running the M build.

im going to flash the first factory image and see if that does it
ill report back

I had this issue and it was super frustrating. The Play Store wouldn't even load unless I switched it to LTE.
Turns out 6.0.1 fixes it!