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How often do you need to soft reboot?

I have used a HTC TouchPro-1 with pleasant satisfaction for its OS stability. I would only need to reboot perhaps once a week or after two weeks.
Then I had a HTC TouchPro-2 with much dissatisfaction for its OS stability. I would need to reboot perhaps once a day or after two days.
For the past couple of months I have been using the HTC HD2; I am very delighted with its stability. It seems I DON'T EVER NEED TO REBOOT. (OK, so I reboot about once a fortnight but mainly out of good intention rather than necessity.)
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Are other users of the HD2 finding excellent stability?
1) How often do you need to soft reboot?
2) What are the causes leading to the need for the reboot?

i generally reboot every 2-3 weeks unless something forces me to reboot like uninstalling a program.
the cause i usually battery drain, battery just for some reason stats dieing really quickly. so i reboot and she's good to go again.
and so you have an idea of usage.
i drive for a living and use my hd2 as my gps (up to 10hrs a day)
i usually play atleast an hour of games, while waiting.
make around 20-50 phone calls a day
send around 100-150 text daily (i'm addicted)
use the wifi early in the morn and night for about 1 hour
it is my alarm clock and calender.
read comic books on it every now and then
check the news & weather daily

I reboot automatically every week after SPB backup, softreset after install of a new app and thats it.
Once in a while my HD 2 hangs under special circumstances: in my office, when HSPA reception is blocked in a certain room and mail, calendar sync and weather panel call for an update simultaneously it won't wake up anymore and battery is drained quickly. Batt out and in solves the problem then.
Otherwise it is superstable now ( at low ambient temperatures). in hot summer sometimes freezes because of high batt temp more than 45 degrees centigrade.
Right now I have to reboot more often because of this time sync problem .... grrrrrrrrrrrrr

Apart from upgrading Radio ROMs (now on 2.12), the ROM (to 1.66WWE from T-Mobile UK 1.48), Installing software (which require rebooting) and the occasional flat battery (my fault), then I have only had a couple of resets since I got my phone in February.

i soft reset daily but thats mainly because Im constantly tweaking the hell out of this thing.
Id imagine it could easily go at least a week though if I could leave it alone.
Not like thats gonna happen though.

Strange issues by removing DRM services - running DK28

I am currently running ViperROM(DK28) version 3.0.3. I followed all of the instructions for fixing GPS on 2.2 and then flashed to this ROM.
Whenever I remove the DRM services I notice 2 strange things that happen:
1. Quadrant is not able to complete, it gets stuck on the first test at the Video Decoding.
2. I'm unable to select a new ringtone notification in handcent, when I press OK for my selection it hangs and I have to FC it.
The reason I want to remove the DRM services is that it appears to negatively affect battery life. I notice an improvement when they are removed. If I restore the DRM services everything starts working good again.
Any ideas?

I wont flame you,but this has been discussed plenty,search please...Anyway,you cant remove any of the 3 without losing some funcionaliy.So the only thing you can do is disable the one that runs at boot,not uninstall.I have tried this tip that orked for a day,once you have a fresh rom installed,play some music,watch a ripped movie,change a ringtone and notification,then remove all 3 services with sdx app removal or any other method you like.But like I said this will not work for more then 2 days at most
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You're not the only one running into this issue.
I ended up rooting my Epic to get rid of all the sprint bloatware and what-not. Everything seemed to be going smooth from the stock standpoint. I removed Samsung Media hub first. Rebooted the phone and noticed nothing bad. Played around with the setup like that for a few days with no problems.
I next got rid of both the DRM service .apk's that were still running even after I got rid of the media hub... and then the problems started. For the first couple days I noticed DRAMATICALLY IMPROVED battery life and EXTRAORDINARY performance so I imagined what I did was a good thing: WRONG! A few days later, I noticed that if I assigned a sound to a notification or a ringtone *from the SD card*, that it would not work. I couldn't play sounds anymore and instead whenever I went to adjust the volume with said notes/tones selected, the Sound_service would crash.
However, I'm the only person I knew before now who has reported this issue so I'm sure there's not a lot of hubob to fix it. Every Epic is built different. Same parts or not. It's a mass-manufactured phone and each one will have its own quirks. There's my 2 cents.

I just froze the apps when I rooted with Titanium Backup but I thought I did something wrong and figured out that sound from apps seems to trigger the software crashes. No point if fixing it now. Flash DI18 and get the EC05 update and/or get EB13.

dyehya said:
I just froze the apps when I rooted with Titanium Backup but I thought I did something wrong and figured out that sound from apps seems to trigger the software crashes. No point if fixing it now. Flash DI18 and get the EC05 update and/or get EB13.
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So can anyone confirm that the EC05 fixes the DRM issue? Otherwise there's no point in upgrading. I saw the release thread on here. Hecka people already having problems with the EC05. To upgrade for the Sprint ID packs? Won't see me do it...

Just let it do its thing. The amount of functonality you lose removing it is not worth the minute amount of battery life you'll save.

stir fry a lot said:
Just let it do its thing. The amount of functonality you lose removing it is not worth the minute amount of battery life you'll save.
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I have to disagree about the amount of battery life I'm saving being minute. When I had this damned DRM service running, I maybe got 10-12 hours with moderate usage. Without it running and now with SRF1.0.2 running (gets rid of IQ), plus SetCPU to (clocking 200-400 when screen off, undervolting 1.0-1.2 during usage) I'm getting a good 20 hours with heavy usage or I can go 2 days without charging if I only use texting.

I do actually remember getting a good bit more battery from deleting the DRM but at the end of the day I'd rather have my music files and apps work properly. I'm used to keeping a charger on me, its just the nature of owning a smart phone.

Yeah I'm with you on that one. Hopefully this will be one challenge [ACS] will be up to digging into.

I just tried stopping it in the running services menu and tested it on a few things with no issues. Doesn't take more than 15 seconds. I'll probably start incorporating it in to my TWS/Airplane mode routine (which just happens to need around 15 seconds supposedly) whenever I reboot.

That's what alot of other people have been saying too. I guess that's what I have to do.
Some threads on SDX about this say you can use some killers to stop it at bootup (personally I've always hated killers since Android 2.0, you don't need them anymore). As long as the .apk and .odex's are there. It's only when you uninstall or freeze it that you start to run into problems 1-3 days down the line.

I use Startup Auditor and it only kills it briefly. I've read all the arguments against Task Killer but I'm still a fan of it. Its especially useful to see what programs start up on their own and I do notice better performance after killing the ones that have no business being open. For everything else I just set it to ignore them.

Help..battery dead in 22 hours on standby?

So I had my a500 fully charged Saturday afternoon. I go to turn it on and its dead. Something is wrong here for sure because I use to go a week on standby. I posted some pictures of what my battery life looks like. Its a straight linear decline and I can't figure it out. I'm rooted, and thinking maybe I'm trying to receive the 3.2 update and I can't due to be rooted. I checked system update and it says I'm up to date. Please, any help?

tu3218 said:
So I had my a500 fully charged Saturday afternoon. I go to turn it on and its dead. Something is wrong here for sure because I use to go a week on standby. I posted some pictures of what my battery life looks like. Its a straight linear decline and I can't figure it out. I'm rooted, and thinking maybe I'm trying to receive the 3.2 update and I can't due to be rooted. I checked system update and it says I'm up to date. Please, any help?
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Check to make sure your Bluetooth is turned off, and your wireless is set to disconnect when screen turns off.

tu3218 said:
So I had my a500 fully charged Saturday afternoon. I go to turn it on and its dead. Something is wrong here for sure because I use to go a week on standby. I posted some pictures of what my battery life looks like. Its a straight linear decline and I can't figure it out. I'm rooted, and thinking maybe I'm trying to receive the 3.2 update and I can't due to be rooted. I checked system update and it says I'm up to date. Please, any help?
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From the pictures you've posted it does look like something is up. Awake time is supposed to coordinate more or less with Screen On time. That's a general rule of thumb. Background things will wake the tablet and work very briefly sometimes but it doesn't look like that and generally takes seconds, adding up to mere minutes in total over days of that behavior. In essence awake time is supposed to follow screen on time closely with mere pips in difference. Yours is pretty much solid.
You could be right about the update, though I don't see how or why it would cause that anomaly, since it doesn't try to check for the update if the wifi is off, and even if the wifi is on it doesn't download it unless you tell it to. Plus, you can always turn off the automatic/scheduled check entirely.
Other issues I can come up with are net' related (stuck weather update, account sync, browser sync, picture sync, etc.) but are all invalidated since your wifi use is not that bad. I'm thinking any of these would trigger your wifi to stay on.
What's left, perhaps a rogue task manager? Something that's killing a necessary task which is then quickly restarted and so the loop goes on till your battery dies. If I can think of anything else I'll post it.
My only recommendation for now is to stop any task manager you have running, as well as locale or tasker if you have those. Restarting and then seeing how things fare after a day of standby.

i have similar situation.......
battery drain on my HoneyVillain 1.2 with Richard's Kernel is unbelievable.
It is not keeping even a half day. With Honeycomb 3.1 or 3.0 it was much much better.
What i see right now:
- on the battery usage graph i see that "Screen" is eating 80% of the battery - is it correct???
- when i'm at work, where my tablet is connected only to internal WLAN Network (no internet access) - the battery is going down much slower
What i have installed (and running in background)
- exchange mails (3 accounts - push method) with exchange widget
- simple calendar widget
- asus weather widget
- extented controls
- hacker's keyboard

looks like i got the same issue

proxonic said:
i have similar situation.......
battery drain on my HoneyVillain 1.2 with Richard's Kernel is unbelievable.
It is not keeping even a half day. With Honeycomb 3.1 or 3.0 it was much much better.
What i see right now:
- on the battery usage graph i see that "Screen" is eating 80% of the battery - is it correct???
- when i'm at work, where my tablet is connected only to internal WLAN Network (no internet access) - the battery is going down much slower
What i have installed (and running in background)
- exchange mails (3 accounts - push method) with exchange widget
- simple calendar widget
- asus weather widget
- extented controls
- hacker's keyboard
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80% is harsh but I suppose that could be correct, especially if you use the tablet a lot. Following my own tablet as an example, at any point in time my screen takes more juice than anything else on the tablet. I have my screen set to 40%. Auto brightness isn't as sensitive as I like it so it always falls to maybe 60% when I'm fine with it at 40% or so so I manually adjust that while at home.
My screen follows my awake time almost to a T.
Wifi also does seem to be eating a bit more than it did in 3.1 - maybe Acer increased the transmit/receive power in the chips so people stop having wifi connect/disconnect issues? Who knows. I've always had my wifi on 24/7 and overall it never took more than 10% of the battery from full to dying. Now it's considerably higher, 15% or more depending on how much I use the tablet.
But that 80% is still more normal than the awake time posted by the OP.
Have you tried turning down the brightness or adjusting the timeout? Indoors 30-40% is fine for me though I can go even lower, especially when I'm in bed or in the living room and the lights are off in the area. Outdoors I set it to auto or to 50/60% depending on whether I'm using it in my car or during shopping. Also, setting the perfect timeout can matter too. I set mine to 1m, but a really good practice is to set it to 30s and just set your browser or media player to keep it awake while in use. I'm too lazy to do those things

Neoprimal, thanks for the response! I just got home from work, and come greeted with what I suppose is the 3.2 update(~357mb). Now I don't know if that is my issue or not but it could have been. I'm rooted but stock everything. Am I okay to download this 3.2 update?

tu3218 said:
Neoprimal, thanks for the response! I just got home from work, and come greeted with what I suppose is the 3.2 update(~357mb). Now I don't know if that is my issue or not but it could have been. I'm rooted but stock everything. Am I okay to download this 3.2 update?
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The 3.2 update has no root, do you have setcpu installed?
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Quick suggestion.
Try changing ROM maybe it will solve your problem.

Neoprimal, thanks for your answer.
I reflashed my iconia back to 3.1 - honeyvillain 1.05a and i have no more battery drain issue.
Screen battery usage is as well at level about 80% so as you said it seems to be normal.
I tried as well other 3.2 cooked roms like taboonay or revolver port - everywhere i got unbelievable high battery drain.
So for me it looks like 3.2 issue.
You can be right with higher wifi power consumption in terms of better signal with honeycomb 3.2.
With3.2i had all the times all stripes blue - with 3.1 signall seems to bea little weaker but anyways strong enough for the internet.
proxonic

proxonic said:
Neoprimal, thanks for your answer.
I reflashed my iconia back to 3.1 - honeyvillain 1.05a and i have no more battery drain issue.
Screen battery usage is as well at level about 80% so as you said it seems to be normal.
I tried as well other 3.2 cooked roms like taboonay or revolver port - everywhere i got unbelievable high battery drain.
So for me it looks like 3.2 issue.
You can be right with higher wifi power consumption in terms of better signal with honeycomb 3.2.
With3.2i had all the times all stripes blue - with 3.1 signall seems to bea little weaker but anyways strong enough for the internet.
proxonic
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Hey Proxonic, as you can see it can't be a '3.2 issue' because I'm on 3.2 and I don't have the issue.
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I barely used my tablet this week because my wife asked me to 'break in' her Touchpad. The brand new one she got had a massive screen problem and we didn't discover it until days later because she never used it much during the week. Pray this never happens to your A500!
Anyway, this is showing that I have my wifi off when the screen is off - the screen on times are generally when I use the tablet to start music, usually before heading to bed.
Most of the awake time is the music playing, but some is probably IM programs and apps looking for internet. I use either google music, pandora/tunein radio/iheartradio or 2player Network Music Player; the radios and 2player NMP use wifi while I've cached a couple playlist or 2 worth of google music to the tablet. I also ran a test for another thread where person(s) reported their Acer Media app turning music off when the screen goes off, I suspect that'd be that long block of awake time without wifi.
Point is though, that I don't think 3.2 has a battery drain issue. Not in regards to while the tablet is sleeping/hibernating anyway. It sounds like maybe you just have some app gobbling up either cpu cycles or something else causing it.
Glad you at least got it fixed with the ROM though.
P.S The touchpad screen, btw looks like this...keep in mind, this is on a good day. When it got bad it was just a huge black block or tons of moving lines. Did a factory reset using Webdoctor and that didn't fix it. The replacement we got seems to be fine so far. The picture's really bad, sorry - took it in the car at a shopping center.
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I have the same issue I am 100% stock on mine and ever since the 3.2 update i will have it fully charged at 8am and at 8 pm I am down to 20% and i never touched it the thing just sat in my bag while I was at work. and i have a 100% uptime. I don't use task mangers and have no idea what is draining it.

downer06 said:
I have the same issue I am 100% stock on mine and ever since the 3.2 update i will have it fully charged at 8am and at 8 pm I am down to 20% and i never touched it the thing just sat in my bag while I was at work. and i have a 100% uptime. I don't use task mangers and have no idea what is draining it.
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That definitely sounds like a rogue application.
Any app in your accounts and sync section has the ability to cause that sort of uptime, so take a look through them. Force a sync and go through each of them to see if anything gets 'stuck' syncing. Twitter and Facebook are always suspect, especially if you're 'busy' on them (meaning you have lots of tweets/facebook posts to sync).
Furthermore, the system is SUPPOSED to close away/sleep some apps after they move from foreground to background however, some of these apps can become locked for some reason and not close (thus the definition of a rogue app). Running processes, etc. may do this. So in addition to programs found under account and sync; any app that plays media (video or music) or connects to download data (news, social apps, shopping/deal apps) can cause this sort of uptime.
I know it can be frustrating but the fix may be as simple as removing the offending app.
Good Luck.

I figured my problem out last night. On all 3 of my gmail accounts it was trying to sync picasa and google photos constantly.

Battery Life Tips and Tricks Thread

I've noticed this phone has hit or miss battery life depending on what you have installed, greenified and frozen. I thought it would be a good idea to create a thread where everyone could share their battery life tips and tricks on this phone.
Below I posted what I have done to maximize battery life. I have not rooted my phone yet, so none of the below tips require root.
I disabled all bloatware apps that came with the phone. I did not disable any of the Asus applications.
I utilize the Asus autostart manger and denied auto start to all my applications except music applications, messenger applications, and google photo sync.

battery sucks. drain to much.

Just use until you have 5% free battery, this should make at least your day
With Android OS taking so much thanks to lollipop, there is not a lot to hope.

We wont see a good battery improvement until we get 5.1
Luckily, that is in the future for this device acc. to Asus.

Since the issue seems to primarily be Android os draining the battery I don't think most battery saving measures will make a difference. We will just have to wait for an update

When I was looking at the phone reviews people were claiming 8 hours screen on time, I can barely get 2 hours screen on time.
The problem I'm having is that the phone never goes to sleep and is constantly awake. Has anyone else seen this issue?

facelessloser said:
When I was looking at the phone reviews people were claiming 8 hours screen on time, I can barely get 2 hours screen on time.
The problem I'm having is that the phone never goes to sleep and is constantly awake. Has anyone else seen this issue?
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I had the same problem after the latest update, no deepsleep in BetterBatteryStats (I'm rooted), I wiped everything and now it goes to deepsleep.

marcof93 said:
I had the same problem after the latest update, no deepsleep in BetterBatteryStats (I'm rooted), I wiped everything and now it goes to deepsleep.
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Which firmware version are you on. I've wiped the phone once already, did you clear any caches? It's driving me mad

facelessloser said:
Which firmware version are you on. I've wiped the phone once already, did you clear any caches? It's driving me mad
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I'm on 2.18.40.12 (ZE551ML of course), I restored the phone from backup & restore in settings (It may take 30 minutes or more). Before restoring I had 45+% of Android OS during the night, now 20% more or less, but, as said, also in BBS I can see deepsleep in frequencies.

Someone posted on Zentalk to turn off remote lock and scan for security threats in google settings. Not sure if it helps or not.

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I'm on 2.18.40.12 (ZE551ML of course), I restored the phone from backup & restore in settings (It may take 30 minutes or more). Before restoring I had 45+% of Android OS during the night, now 20% more or less, but, as said, also in BBS I can see deepsleep in frequencies.
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I wiped my phone yesterday and restored back up like you suggested and it seams to have sorted out my wake lock issue. I wonder why that is?

facelessloser said:
I wiped my phone yesterday and restored back up like you suggested and it seams to have sorted out my wake lock issue. I wonder why that is?
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Glad you solved, but don't know why, maybe they are working hard on the firmware and there are lot of changes that can cause problem, maybe we have to wipe after every update, Intel processor and Lollipop are so unstable right now!

toebus said:
Someone posted on Zentalk to turn off remote lock and scan for security threats in google settings. Not sure if it helps or not.
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It helps..i turned andriod device manager too

Ok so this is my battery with a normal day of use... Tomorrow ill show the results with your sugestions. My normal days have gsm calls(normal phone calls) whasapp (chat) youtube, twich, game like plant vs zombies 2, look at gmail, surfing internet, taking pics like 25 today.
I notice that battery drains a lot more while photo app open.
I use doble sim as you can see

If you want to test app battery drain, try GSAM Battery Monitor, or for some extra functionality the Pro version. Also very useful to determine what is causing wakelocks when you run into them.

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If you want to test app battery drain, try GSAM Battery Monitor, or for some extra functionality the Pro version. Also very useful to determine what is causing wakelocks when you run into them.
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Really interesting app ill download tomorrow im tring to lock some functionalities from google like sending data for app security and after that will download this and tell you what i got
Thank u sir thats a good one

Everyone is always wondering about Android using the most battery. Without doing some in depth debugging and tracing I would guess Houdini falls under Android. Because the ZenFone 2 uses the Intel processor a binary conversion for ARM instructions takes place with Houdini. More than likely you have a lot of apps native for ARM.

Force closing asus support app and zenui services app from apps setting gives me good amount of battery boost. Apart I have also disabled google books, movies, plus etc. I don't know if its placebo effect but someone can try and confirm. These app tend to restart at times so if you feel the battery decreasing at high rates again, make sure you force close them again.
Roughly speaking, I tend to get 3-5 min per percentage of screen on time with this which totals to 5 to 6 hrs on SOT on continous usage. Without the apps being force closed, I barely get 2min/%. The usage scenarios are normal web browsing, chats etc. This is using mobile data. It gets even better with wifi.
Try and let me know if this helps.

Maybe I don't use my phone as much as other people. I posted this last night on another forum. My phone was unplugged at 07:00, It's now 21:00. I have 80% battery left and the battery monitor shows 3 days left
I have received email, 3 phone calls and text messages. I checked Twitter a couple of times with the browser. I have read Google News a couple of times and played GSN Casino for about 20 minutes.
In Auto Start Manager I turned off Docs, Sheets, Skype, Slides, Translate, Amazon Kindle, Data Transfer and Web Storage. Everything else is Allow, but I have no social networking applications installed.

Its looks like battery life is a right mixed bag. At the start of the week I was suffering wake lock issue, my phone wouldn't go into deep sleep and was constantly awake. I wiped and restored from backup which seams to fix the issue.
Got up this morning and it looks like the wake lock issue is back. I don't know what to do to fix it.
Feel like giving up on the phone and sending it back if I can

Need Help Finding Root Cause of UI slowdown

Hey all,
So I've had my S8 since launch and I've enjoyed it but I have an issue that I've been trying to pinpoint the cause of for a few weeks now. At a high level, if I reboot the phone in the morning, I can use it all day as I wish and it works perfectly, no slowdown anywhere and good battery life. I plug the phone in at night when I go to sleep and when I wake up I start using it again. Either right after I wake up or over the course of a few hours the phone begins to slow down with things like notification shade/app switcher crawling until I either a) reboot or b) change display resolution. Doing either of these "fixes" it until the next night and then again when I wake up I have the same issues.
I've been trying to figure out what's causing this. I've tried disabling features, uninstalling apps, etc.
One thing I have found is that when I'm having this problem if I force close 'System UI' in App Manager (this is just restarting that process since you can't kill it really) the smoothness comes back but it doesn't last as long as when I either reboot or change resolution.
My theory is that something is conflicting with the Android UI and over time it's causing it to slow down. Rebooting or changing display resolution restarts the Android UI so essentially same thing.
My first question is has anyone seen this behavior where the notification shade/app switcher (native UI not apps) slow down? I know there's at least some people on Reddit with same issue. If you have this issue does FC'ing System UI 'fix' it for you temporarily?
I'm trying to figure out what is running on my phone while I'm sleeping at night which is obviously causing this. Any ideas would be helpful. Oh also when I wake up and I go into app switcher it only shows like 3 cards where before I go to bed it would be like 10+ so something is killing apps at night too. I turned off Google backup for today and will reboot before tonight to see if maybe that's it.
Appreciate your help.
Thanks.

I've had my S8+ since the launch weekend on ATT, always connected to my Gear S3, and connected to my Misfit Ray. I've not noticed any slowdown of the UI. My AOD clock is slow to show the hands if the screen is off when I use the numerical clock AOD, but nothing else observed.
I would guess you've installed (or haven't uninstalled/disabled) some apps that are using a lot of background processes. I removed/disabled the few ATT apps on the device except Call Protect, and I don't use Gmail (resource hog). I actually use very few Google apps, they're just not very well coded, it seems (maybe a "goof off" day every week isn't such a great policy?)
In settings, go to Device maintenance, click on battery, and see if anything strange is going on there under App power monitor.
I've NEVER liked Samsung phones, and I've NEVER been interested in owning one, but I saw the Galaxy Gear S3 and fell in love, and truthfully, I bought the phone as an accessory to the watch, so I'm not an apologist for any shortcomings.

Instead of restarting, go to settings/device maintenance, what's the percentage here? go to optimize, does it help? which apps use the battery most? How much RAM is available. If nothing shows up, you probably would need something like wakelock detector (it needs root) to trace apps usage, especially at night. Also you could try to force stop other apps and see which one is interfering? For example phone is slow, force stop first 10 apps, if not fixed force stop next 10, if fixed, next time force stop one at the time from that batch of tens.

Mines just started doing this the other day. I think I have an idea if the problem, I'm just trying to find proof at this point. I recently downloaded this all to let me see the upload/download speeds if my network in the notification bar. It lets you set the refresh rate, to which I set it to 2 seconds, which I knew regardless would tax my system, I just didn't expect my ui to slow to a crawl.

Delete any Bixby remapping app as well, known to cause many issues including unpredictable lag.