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At Christmas I will receive my HTC Touch HD and this is why I have started reading all the Blackstone thread since a month.
That is what I understand so far(correct me if I am wrong):
-Hardware: big screen,a bit less contrast than Diamond, but impressive resolution and really (probably for the first time) user-friendly device
-Battery: better than Diamond's one..up to 2 days of normal use
-Video performance: still a lot of work, but coreplayer works fine with low size movies or videos. At the moment there is no access to the internal GPU and only WMP can play smooth .mp4...big hopes for the future. People disappointed due to high hardware capability not used
-Audio performance: quality comparable to Ipod/Iphone, but TF3d interface has still some bugs to be fixed..however, a lot of 3rd software to choose the software we like most ( S2P for example)
-Camera performance: still a bit confused, it seems to be a "standard" 5mp compared to the level of other devices (nokia or sony-ericsson)...however there is no thread that show exactly the power of this camera with lot of pictures in different environments
-Navigation GPS: few bugs to be fixed, but we can use igo8, Navigon 7 and Tomtom 7 in high resolution
-Customization: like the other wm..you can do really what you want (change today, apply tons of software, etc etc)..there are no limits so far, except the hardware's ones.
-Games: let's say that the TOUCH HD is more a "business device" with media specifics...but still far from Iphone games. Let's hope in the future like for the video performance.
-Development: HSPL not yet released (after we would have a huge choice of ROMs!!!..)...hopefully a christmas gift
worksofart said:
-Battery: better than Diamond's one..up to 2 days of normal use
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That astonishes me. I never get more than about a day with only sending SMS and nothing else. Whoever comes up to two days please tell me (and perhaps others) how to achieve that. I even stopped active sync and used the trick (empty active sync server) to not let it start automatically. Is there anything (perhaps obvious for others) I missed?
I think you just about summed it up.
It is a really nice device with lots more potential.
I'm sure you won't be disappointed this christmas!!
How do you stop the activesync?
well, im looking for a better solution on the high quality video playback capability lol
something wrong
alex3683 said:
That astonishes me. I never get more than about a day with only sending SMS and nothing else. Whoever comes up to two days please tell me (and perhaps others) how to achieve that. I even stopped active sync and used the trick (empty active sync server) to not let it start automatically. Is there anything (perhaps obvious for others) I missed?
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there's probably something wrong with your device cause i always get over a day and a half at least i mean have a look this has been covered several times snd most members appear to agree that the battery has improved especially in comparison to the kaiser and diamond both very loved handsets
I must confirm, marvi0 is right. The battery should last for over a day to two days when the device is sporadicaly used.
What I see as potentional problems could be these:
1) bad radio version (i remember these issues on HTC Hima with old ROMs, they could drain battery twice fast than usual).
2) some creepy app, that takes too much CPU use. Remember that the more the CPU is used, the more batt is spend. The power-off works that way: it not only turns off screen, it also sends windows to some sort of standby mode, when most of the apps are suspended. But - if some app could not get to this state, it runs on full throttle on the background. I remember such issue with playing with WM5 screensaver and MortScripts. Check your taskbar, what is running there.
My battery now lasts up to 5 x days max if I use Tweak HD suggested settings throughout! This is an excellent App. As per the camera I wish this could be fixed / replaced with something like I originally used on my Trinity since the adaptive zoom/focus causes rapid movement to alwas go blurred, whilst static images or landscapes are fine.
Battery Last 1 n half day
After lots of phone calls, average sms and few songs...Battery Last 1 n half day...
Which is fine for me
max i got from the battery was 3 days only doing a couple of calls and some sms, i don't use any massive tf3d personalization only changed the background image, installed s2u2, crystal clock and optimized the phone cache, but usualy it's around 1 and half, 2 days
My battery went from 100% to 48% in the space of about 8 hours on Sunday as I was doing lots of stuff on it, trying to get apps working, trying things out, installing, uninstalling etc.
I then had the phone on standby all night (was 48% before bed) and it has been on standby most of today with 1 phone call and a bit of video and calculator, and still on 48%
Okay, I now got my battery life up to about two days with some telephony and SMS and bluetooth always turned on by switching of the light sensor and using a fixed setting of two bars for the light when using battery. This is enough (at least for me) to see everything well on the device in every lighting condition.
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That astonishes me. I never get more than about a day with only sending SMS and nothing else. Whoever comes up to two days please tell me (and perhaps others) how to achieve that. I even stopped active sync and used the trick (empty active sync server) to not let it start automatically. Is there anything (perhaps obvious for others) I missed?
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I'm surprised with your short battery life. I used it almost non-stop and still had 50% left a day later. I find the battery life of HD amazingly good. However, I did took the pain to charge it properly before starting to use it. Although the manual said we need only 3 hours to charge it, I kept unplugging the power when the charge indicator turned green, then plug it in again. I kept repeating this process for about 2 hours after it first turned green. This might have something to do with the long battery life I'm getting, perhaps.
ScarySquirrel said:
My battery went from 100% to 48% in the space of about 8 hours on Sunday as I was doing lots of stuff on it, trying to get apps working, trying things out, installing, uninstalling etc.
I then had the phone on standby all night (was 48% before bed) and it has been on standby most of today with 1 phone call and a bit of video and calculator, and still on 48%
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This is very much in line with my own experience so far.
HTCzar said:
How do you stop the activesync?
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Have a look at this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3036421&postcount=12
What is your general experience regarding stability with the T-Mobile hd2?
Mine so far has been lack luster. I love the phone, I just wish it was actually stable. My experience thus far has been-
Hangs at lock screen about 2-3 times per day
Texting occasionally lags heavily..
Music app has frozen once
1-2 times per day won't respond after returning lock mode, requires reset.
All the problems I have can be resolved by turning it off and on. So far, I've found myself resetting the phone 4-5 times per day. Anyone having the same experience? Any tips? It's been frustrating. Such an awesome phone, but sometimes it just locks up for no reason and I can't even make a phone call.
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What is your general experience regarding stability with the T-Mobile hd2?
Mine so far has been lack luster. I love the phone, I just wish it was actually stable. My experience thus far has been-
Hangs at lock screen about 2-3 times per day
Texting occasionally lags heavily..
Music app has frozen once
1-2 times per day won't respond after returning lock mode, requires reset.
All the problems I have can be resolved by turning it off and on. So far, I've found myself resetting the phone 4-5 times per day. Anyone having the same experience? Any tips? It's been frustrating. Such an awesome phone, but sometimes it just locks up for no reason and I can't even make a phone call.
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I've found it pretty stable. I have no problems... just as stable, if not more, than any of my previous WM devices. It'll lock up occasionally when I'm experiment with certain apps or settings, but never on normal usage.
Before I flashed to a custom ROM I had all kinds of problems with the phone. It was laggy and was almost unusable. After flashing to a custom ROM all those problems went away. Now I haven't had any problems with the phone and it is very stable now. I would recommend you flashing to a custom ROM if you haven't done so already.
Coming from an HD, I have been using custom ROMs for over a year. However, I haven't yet flashed a custom ROM on my HD2 simply because I have yet to find any problem with the stock ROM (mainly since it's completely up to date and the cooks are using it as their base). So far, I've had only one...maybe two freezes. I'll definitely start flashing custom ROMs once there's an update to manila, but till then, I'll prolly stick with this one (or until i get bored).
(Also, I am a very heavy user, so I'm pleased with just one freeze a week.)
Using stock rom, occasionally using Task Manager to kill something that's sucking CPU, but otherwise very stable. Only hit sleep-of-death twice so far, and rebooted only couple times to fix extreme lag from something unkillable and hidden.
Using my own 8GB SDHC class 6 (instead of crappy 16GB class 2) to cut down battery drain, and using only external GPS. Lots of registry tweaks to turn on power-management, and using BsB Tweaks.
Besides Opera 10 constantly screwing up virtual, runs mostly fine with Garmin Mobile XT, Google Maps, iGo8, Navizon (wow!).
No Problems, What a fine piece of Hardware.
Hello Everyone,
I got my T-Mobile USA HTC HD2 on March 20th,2010 from Walmart 4 days before T-Mobile started sales.
Since I got it, it has been in use 24 hours a day,7 days a week.
Changes I made:
Removed all demo games.
Removed all demo music.
Removed all demo photographs.
Removed all Demo Software.
Removed Google Maps to update.
Got Unlock Code from T-Mobile
Made a few registry changes from this list Here
Installed onto device:
Skype
Google Maps 4.0.0 (#81)
Updated Microsoft My Phone
ICQ
PHM Registry Editor
HTC Wi-Fi Router
Installed on microSDHC Card:
8gb of .wma (lossless) music.
Have the camera store pictures on card.
Bluetooth Stereo Headset:
Sony Ericsson MW600. ( See link in signature )
Rom
I am using the stock shipping T-Mobile USA Rom
2.10.531.1 (82076) WWE
Stability
Not once, I had to do a reset. (hard reset or soft reset)
Not once, I had any lag in messaging application. (sms or mms)
Not once, I had any lag in the music player.
Not once, I had any problems returning to operation from lock status.(Just slide the lock,poof, back to work)
Not once, I had any problems using the Wi-Fi router as a source of connectivity for my notebook.
Not once, I had any problems with weather location and stating where I am.(pretty cool and accurate)
Not once, I had any type of freezing.
Typical Daily Usage, all running at the same time:
Running Skype.
Running ICQ.
Running Yahoo Messenger.
Running Google Maps.
Sending sms / mms. ( about 50-75 a day)
Listening to music.(On MW600 which controls tracks,play/pause,displays track info)
Answering Telephone calls and placing Telephone calls.(usually on MW600)
Surfing and researching topics on the Internet. ( Sometime IE, Sometimes Opera)
Use Microsoft Office ( mostly excel)
Check and update my Facebook Page.
Things I do:
Once finished for the day, I clear message history and clear deleted items.(sms and mms)
Once finished for the day, I clear the call history.
Once finished for the day, I clear Cookies,History,Cache,Temporary Internet Files in IE and Opera.
In Skype,Yahoo,ICQ, I clear conversations once finished.
I keep the Task Manager, Managed !! Once finished with an application, I make sure to shut it down.
Conclusion:
Completely Stable.
A multi-tasking workhorse.
Quick and fast,responsive,no lag or pauses.
A fine piece of electronic harware.
Impressive Sound Quality.
I am 100% impressed and 100% happy with my device.
Thank you,
Monnie
HD2
Hello all,
I have had great stability out of this phone thus far. Only problem I had was a cab that I installed gummed things up for a while, uninstalled it and soft reset and all was good again.
Like any phone, if your going to tweak it or install cabs, do one at a time. Then test the results. See how it effects your phone.
Most of the complaints you hear are unfortunately from people that really don't know what their doing or dont do the research before doing stuff and just dive in installing everything they can get there hands on, and then the end up complaining in the end, giving a phone a bad rap.
Just my 2 "Sense".
fhaines
I have been using cooked roms on my blackstone for a while now. However, my concern from the beginning has been that these are battery drainer.
I bought it second hand and it had call time of around 60 Hours both IN and OUT.
On 6.1, I used internet very little, but I used to call a lot and listen to music as well for about 2-3 hours a day. In that OS, it used to go up to 3 days.
Then I came into the world of xda-developers and things changed . The battery didn't last for more than a day and a half with the usage I mentioned above. That prompted me to buy new battery.
Since then, On cooked ROM's, I leave my email check for every 15 minutes and weather to an hour. With this usage it hardly last for 2 days on the new battery and I hardly make a call!!
If I make calls, use Opera, it would die in literally half a day.
Can people share their experiences about battery life and cooked roms etc???
I really dont want to go back to 6.1 and I want to keep using 6.5 but the battery issues are really annoying now.
I have used pretty much all the ROM's (Energy, PQD, XannyTech, KWBR, blackStonehenge) with same usage and all of them have yielded same results so it's not ROM based...
Cheers.
I'm using the last ROM that Dutty made for us. With 6 email accounts checking every 15 minutes and an Outlook push account, blue tooth enabled and sometimes an hour of phone use. My phone can't go more than 4 hours on a charge.
Thanks for the heads up. In a few hours I´m getting my own Blackstone with a stock OS. I was already set to change the ROM but with this post will have to delay it a bit until a fix can be found.
Oh, it wasn't that bad at first, it could go a full day. It's just as you add programs and then remove them things get progressively worse. I really need to flash it again to clean it up but I hate having to set everything up again. I'm not a habitual flasher
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Thanks for the heads up. In a few hours I´m getting my own Blackstone with a stock OS. I was already set to change the ROM but with this post will have to delay it a bit until a fix can be found.
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Luckily, I have found one.
All you need to do is stop using your mobile on 3G.
I have tested it on Energy ROM. With 3G switched on, it lost around 25% of charge in a day on email check for every 15 min and weather for half hour. without any calls.
With 3G switched off and the rest of settings, the charge had only gone down by 12% and that included a couple of calls.
To be honest, I dont think you really need 3G unless you are using internet a lot. Even then, you may switch it on and switch it back off.
I will be trying the new MaxSense UI as well to see whether that helps the battery or not!!
No matter how much SE can piss me off, I have to say they did a good job with the last update R2BA020 .
I did fully charge my battery, did not use any task killer or such only kept adw launcher. With a normal use the battery last me a little over 48 hours I was at 10% when i devided to recharge it again.
-Around 2 hours of video
-4 hours of reading with Aldiko
-1 hours of internet
-Around 50 txt msg
-20 call 5-15 min each
-3 Pictures
-4 Hour of music while reading
-Email and weather widget run to update every hour
-Fancy widget running
-Bluetooth on all the time
-Gps and wifi was off all the time
Bottom line it’s impressive, now I really can enjoy my device without carrying a charger and searching for an outlet all the time .
I completely agree, the 020 firmware is fantastic. My usage differs slightly but even using Bluetooth to listen to Spotify all day didn't drain my battery. Neither did using my phone as a wireless 3G modem with Wifi tethering.
Well, yes, nice improvements but the WIFI is still using a lot of juice
wifi is confirmed using alot.
the phonebook is now kind of stupid...
when you click a person's name, their contact shows up, and when you tap their phone #...instead of calling that person directly it would bring you to the dialer screen with the # entered in and you need to press "call" to call the person...
i mean..if im in someones contact page and i tap their #..im pretty sure i want or need to call them....i really dont understand the point of bringing the dialer screen up again..pretty stupid on SE's part in my opinion
Well a quicker step would be to long hold their name and call them
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Well, I've rooted my device yesterday, started using it massively around 3 or 4 am to reconfigure everything and now its battery is at 8%:
throughout all the process wifi was used for internet (when needed, of course), 3g/gps/bluetooth turned off.
* Installed a lot of apps, some using barcode scanner, some using appbrain.
* Synced with google
* Restored a backup
* Reconfigured a lot of apps
* around 6 sms
* tweeted 2 or 3 times
* 5 to 10 calls 10m~ each
* listened to music through the day (around 2 hours of music, simple last fm scrobbler was used to cache the data, didn't scrobbled yet)
* read a pdf book around 1 hour
* some random usage through the day, like checking online stuff.
* Since I go to work using the subway, the signal reception is quite poor, so the phone prolly was searching for signal during the day.
Even wifi draining a lot of battery, the phone battery was quite good for everything that I've done today.
Apart from the battery the whole system feels better, all the UI customizations done by SE are faster (timescape, mediascape, dialer and so on).
I can say, like all of you, SE did a good job on this update. I can't wait for the Q3 2.1 release. Seriously, I want 720p video recording so much
Greetings guys,
Whats the difference R2BA020 and B2FA020.
Thanks for your kind reply.
Vatis
has anyone noticed any difference in call quality - in call volume especially
this was the thing i looked forward to getting the most out of this upgrade but no much difference i notice, still can't hear very well in any outside environment
i hope this issue becomes resolved...
I usually use headphones while outdoors, so I can't help here. Indoors it's been quite good, at least for me.
dpk0875 said:
has anyone noticed any difference in call quality - in call volume especially
this was the thing i looked forward to getting the most out of this upgrade but no much difference i notice, still can't hear very well in any outside environment
i hope this issue becomes resolved...
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I was on fw 16 and it was a litter bit low but still fine, didn't notice any difference between 16 and 20 tho.
never heard of B2FA020 - Think it might have been a typo on someone's part?
Screen off while in call.
Not to start a new thread, I'll pin my question to this one. I've updated to R2BA020 (O2 Irl branded) and noticed that whenever in call the screen is not turning off, as it used to before. Did anyone else experienced this problem?
Regards, masterofp.
check your screen time out settings in the settings/ display/ screen timeout section.. it may be that it's reverted to a longer timeout period or to not time out at all.
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check your screen time out settings in the settings/ display/ screen timeout section.. it may be that it's reverted to a longer timeout period or to not time out at all.
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Nope, still @ 15 seconds...
Though overall battery usage seems to be better with R2BA020 (Rogers), I've run into an odd issue:
When tethering via PdaNet, my battery drains at an alarming rate. It dropped 20% in the past hour. This wasn't the case before I upgraded (was using stock Rogers firmware before) - it would drain, but much more slowly, going from 100% to maybe 55% over the course of the 8 hours I was at work tethered. It's almost as if it's not charging at all via USB (or is charging much more slowly than before).
I checked, and the phone does register as charging while tethered. So I'm not sure what exactly the issue is. Nothing else has changed.
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Turned off PdaNet during a meeting I had today just to make sure my X10 is charging properly via USB, and sure enough it is (gained 12% charge over the hour).
after updating into R2BA020, my sim tool kit and play now were gone. Now, I want them back (especially STK). Does anyone know how to do it? My X10 is not rooted yet.
I'm pretty happy with the new Facebook app. It got rid of the "Camera" icon on the mainscreen and replaced it with "Inbox", which makes so much more sense.
My ringtones got reset, and I noticed that Astro File Manager lost a few file associations. I'm prompted for all sorts of default apps etc now, but it's just a minor annoyance.
I did the update through the Sony Ericsson PC Software. The first boot after update took a very long time on the Rogers splash screen. I was afraid the device was bricked for a couple of minutes. I guess it was just the first boot, and the Xperia was restoring all my user data.
Does anyone have comparison between R2BA020 and R2BA023? appreciate if it includes benchmarking between them.
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Not to start a new thread, I'll pin my question to this one. I've updated to R2BA020 (O2 Irl branded) and noticed that whenever in call the screen is not turning off, as it used to before. Did anyone else experienced this problem?
Regards, masterofp.
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yes, Am also facing the same problem
Just got my Galaxy S yesterday, but had big problems with the Samsung apps right out of the box.
The main launcher would repeatedly lock up, it was totally unusable. After being frozen for a few minutes I would be able to kill twlauncher process, then it would start up again and run for a few seconds before freezing. I managed to download LauncherPro from the market place to replace it, which is much better.
However, the calendar is causing me grief now. It takes a long time to load, and is not particularly responsive, but the big issue is the battery usage.
1 hour 40 since unplugging and I'm down to 50% battery left (from a full overnight charge) - calendar is responsible for 17% of this(!) with 47 minutes of CPU usage. What is going on?!
Any advice on how to either fix this, or blitz the Samsung calendar app and use the standard google one?
Hi Meza1,
First thing to be aware of is that it takes about 5-7 days before the battery starts to settle down, the first 2 days are a little scary.
Your launcher locking up doesnt sound normal, so I'd keep an eye on that.
As for calendar, I've not noticed it being an issue. The usual battery hogs are when apps are set to high frequency updates. So recently I installed twitter on a 15min update and it took my battery from 2-3days standby down to 6hours!
You could reset your phone to factory and start again and if its still locking up you might want to get it exchanged. We all suffer lag of a few seconds here and there which we hope will be fixed, but not to the level you've just reported.
Root your phone and install "AutoKiller". Great app, it automatically cleans out your ram and uneeded background applications. Phone runs smoothly with no lag. I use "LauncherPro" instead of "TouchWiz".
My GPS also fixes almost instantly, less than 30 secs in most cases. This is in both Google Maps and Co-Pilot.
I really think that it would be unwise to root the phone at this stage, because it would appear to have problems that are not seen on most SGS's and therefore the chances are that the phone needs to be returned.
This would not be possible if "rooted".
Thanks for the responses. I think I'll try one of the lag-fix ROMs that are being mentioned and see how it goes. Is there a way to back up my apps and settings before doing this?
I would agree with Geryatrix and hold off rooting or upgrading your phone just yet, in case you need to return it.