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HTC HD2 Sense - New User S.O.S.

Hello friends, users of xda-developers.com ...
I had bought my HTC HD2 with htc sense a week ago ...
I have red some of the theads here for ROM updates and the other stuff that helps to fix the some problem that might have on the htc ...
well ... i cant install anything on my htc ...
i tryed every way ... allmost every version ...
cant get no positive result ...
please help me if its not a hard job for you ...
i know it may be like " ohh ... another nubie ".
i'll be thankfull if you'll help me to understand the htc \ the windows mobile system ...
my software info is :
Os vertion : 5.2.21869 (21869.5.0.82)
Manila version : 1.0.19211620.0
ROM vertion : 1.48.831.0 (71294) WWE
ROM date : 11.09.09
Radio version : 2.05.51.05_2
need are : Hebew / Russian support that will work for the htc hd2 sense
( how do i know what wm do i have ? )
what soft will be needed on the wm that will be usefull ?
thnx ahead...

xtntx said:
Hello friends, users of xda-developers.com ...
well ... i cant install anything on my htc ...
i tryed every way ... allmost every version ...
cant get no positive result ...
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Hi, you need to give us more information. What have you tried to instal, and how did you try to do it?

xtntx said:
my software info is :
Os vertion : 5.2.21869 (21869.5.0.82)
Manila version : 1.0.19211620.0
ROM vertion : 1.48.831.0 (71294) WWE
ROM date : 11.09.09
Radio version : 2.05.51.05_2
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Are you sure your manila version is 1.0.19211620.0? My HD2 show Manila 2.5.19211619. As far as I know, Every HD2 have Manila version 2.5

_craven_ said:
Are you sure your manila version is 1.0.19211620.0? My HD2 show Manila 2.5.19211619. As far as I know, Every HD2 have Manila version 2.5
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Yes i'm sure.... its in front of me ...
i see the manila 1.0.19211620.0
This all what i get after making an Hard Restart to the Htc...
it reinstalls the factory release ...
samsamuel
i have an htc hd2 with sence sim free.
i have tryed to install ROM updates...
tried to update my Manila to 2.5
radio... but no can do ...
i have windows 7.
when i tried to install the rom ...
it says sync the phone with the computer...
then update rom... but i get an error that the program cant find my device.

_craven_ said:
... As far as I know, Every HD2 have Manila version 2.5
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Yes, every HD2 has Manila 2.5.
I think there is a possibility you don't even have the HD2. Either you have some other phone from HTC or you have some fake stuff from Chinese market... I'm just guessing of course. Can you maybe post a picture of your hd2?

have you installed the necessary software on your computer?

Anzze said:
Yes, every HD2 has Manila 2.5.
I think there is a possibility you don't even have the HD2. Either you have some other phone from HTC or you have some fake stuff from Chinese market... I'm just guessing of course. Can you maybe post a picture of your hd2?
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Well, at least the ROM version is the official Hong Kong ROM for the HD2, including the Radio ROM version.
Picture(s) and/or screenshot indeed would be helpful in order to support better.

Anzze said:
Yes, every HD2 has Manila 2.5.
I think there is a possibility you don't even have the HD2. Either you have some other phone from HTC or you have some fake stuff from Chinese market... I'm just guessing of course. Can you maybe post a picture of your hd2?
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i cant post links ( images )
i need to be verified by a moderator ...
How do you get some thing like that by the way ? =)

i am also new user for WM
i just bought in hong kong.
the manila of my hd2 is also 1.0.192xxx
could anyone please tell me howi update to v2.5?
coz i wanna change the icon
thanks so much!

tictac0566 said:
Well, at least the ROM version is the official Hong Kong ROM for the HD2, including the Radio ROM version.
Picture(s) and/or screenshot indeed would be helpful in order to support better.
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here are the links to the pics ... :
s003.radikal.ru/i202/1002/8a/5728462479fd.jpg
s005.radikal.ru/i209/1002/38/98a0b0b6e962.jpg
s003.radikal.ru/i203/1002/a1/e1871303e6b7.jpg

so what do you say xda developers ?
from where should i begin ?

This forum is not serious ....
if you dont know the answers just say so ....
i'll move on to the next forum ....
maybe there some one will help me ... =(

first off you must read this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=621930
Learn to HSPL your phone.
Then after that you can flash your phone with whatever ROM you want provided by the wonderful XDA devs .
I use this rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=610634
Hope it helps
So you will have new manlia and new rom after flashing.

Thanks alot corleno...
But ... i have a little problem ...
when i try to install the HSPL ... ( if you also did it ), you get the BOOT or what ever you call it screen on the HTC red green white screen...
( the one you see on the video tutorial ).
and the soft ( HSPL ) on the computer write me " waiting for usb connection " ... he cant see my device when it goes to the "boot" screen (on device)...
what can be the problem?
( again ... i use the windows 7 )
( active sinc 4.5 )
( htc hd2 sence )

I don't think you can run activ sync in Win7
I connected my device using WMDC.
And ran Hardspl.
I think it's enough to Hard SPL the device.
You needn't do soft spl.
After you hard spl you get a screen on windows7 saying
"We hacked your phone" if I remember correct.
After that you can load in your new rom.
hope it helps

Are you using a USB port that is in a card reader? Or maybe part of the front case of the PC?
I can't instal HSPL from my front USB ports, but it installs fine on the USB ports round the back, directly on the motherboard....
I can however flash roms fine using the front ports.

samsamuel said:
Are you using a USB port that is in a card reader? Or maybe part of the front case of the PC?
I can't instal HSPL from my front USB ports, but it installs fine on the USB ports round the back, directly on the motherboard....
I can however flash roms fine using the front ports.
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yes ... you did it =)
it was the problem .... i put the usb behind the comp
and it found the usb .... HSPL installed .... thanks ALOT! =)

xtntx said:
yes ... you did it =)
it was the problem .... i put the usb behind the comp
and it found the usb .... HSPL installed .... thanks ALOT! =)
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Heh, no problem. Strange isn't it.

samsamuel said:
Heh, no problem. Strange isn't it.
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yeh ... i hate myself for not thinking of that myself =)
so simple ...
now ... =)
if its not a big deal for you ...
what should i do next ?
what rom's are new, what is usefull ?
what should i install ?

Hah, hunt around, those questions never get a good reception.
You should choose your own. If you want to stick with official roms go for the 1.66, but if you want to try cooked ones, pick one and try it, pick another and try that. Take your time, dont go flash crazy, see what you like and stick with it. Try the one in my sig, very nice.
Best advice i can give is dont flash using sd card. It can lead to awkwardness, lol. With HSPL and usb flashing, your SPL is protected. Flash with sd card and you can possibly mess that up.
Only time you should need to use sd card is if you're flashing back your original stock rom and wanting to remove HSPL. (You can also flash the stock romusing USB, but that will leave HSPL installed.)

Lag on the clock flip & weather animation

i bought A HD2 .
i have a question ;
has your HD2 a very little lag (about ; 1/2 Second or less ) on clock Flip & weather animation ?
i think the cause is ; refreshing the task bar !!! is it right ? Is it normal & epidemic ?
Im so QUEASY
My rom Version is: 1.48 / Manila: 1991

Hi & Welcome to the Forums, yes it does have some what of a slight lag on the clock flip & animation, keep in mind that you're running an older Rom and Manilla version upgrading to the latest version of Rom 1.66 & Manilla 2.5 will definitely improve performance . . . you may also want to read up on flashing "Cooked" Roms. . . . Cheers.

Sean_Dillon said:
Hi & Welcome to the Forums, yes it does have some what of a slight lag on the clock flip & animation, keep in mind that you're running an older Rom and Manilla version upgrading to the latest version of Rom 1.66 & Manilla 2.5 will definitely improve performance . . . you may also want to read up on flashing "Cooked" Roms. . . . Cheers.
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thanx 4 your replay , i can't Install the Cooked roms because it will remove my guaranty , Also when i enter to the HTC Support after that i enter my Serial Number , the site tell me that i can't download the ROM 1.66 !! they said that that roms is not SUITABLE for me ! :-(
how i can update my manila Ver ?

Siamak_ramp said:
thanx 4 your replay , i can't Install the Cooked roms because it will remove my guaranty , Also when i enter to the HTC Support after that i enter my Serial Number , the site tell me that i can't download the ROM 1.66 !! they said that that roms is not SUITABLE for me ! :-(
how i can update my manila Ver ?
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It looks like you have a so called "Branded" Version (T-Mobile, Vodafone etc.).
You can only update them with an "original" ROM that your provider supplies or install a "cooked" ROM which is described here and here
Your warranty might expire if you flash a custom ROM

Dear Friend's
Can i solve this little lag with updating my manila to Ver 2.5 ?
I'm novice in WM . my previous cell phone was SN P1i .
also i find one matter !! at Flight mode the lag is very very little ! about 1/5Sec
and on the phone mode is about 1/2 Sec ! whats the matter ?
All of the Automatic update's is OFF

i have the same problem and i use rom 1.48 grrr. I hope 1.66 will be available soon in Poland. I'm waiting...

Stock style ROM with 576 RAM ???

Hi im just looking for a rom which essentially is the same as the latest stock vodafone uk ROM but with the 576 RAM or something as close to possible as stock ROM but with the extra RAM. Does this exist? I have been hunting around but they all seem to be majorly different. Or can anyone make a rom based on the Vodafone ROM but with the the 576RAM unlocked?
Thanks

fillip said:
Hi im just looking for a rom which essentially is the same as the latest stock vodafone uk ROM but with the 576 RAM or something as close to possible as stock ROM but with the extra RAM. Does this exist? I have been hunting around but they all seem to be majorly different. Or can anyone make a rom based on the Vodafone ROM but with the the 576RAM unlocked?
Thanks
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2.10 base: 576MB RAM, US version
1.66/1.72 base: normal RAM, European version
So you have to decide between more RAM or your UK ROM base.

Ok so what would be the main differences if I have the US based 2.01?
I am currently on 1.66. I plan on using SSPL by bepe to do the ROM upgrade which i beleive means i dont need to worry about radios?
I wouldnt mind the US based 2.01 if it performed and looked like a stock HTC ROM. I guess if I used the US ROM I wouldnt have the operator settings for MMS etc?
Thanks

fillip said:
Ok so what would be the main differences if I have the US based 2.01?
I am currently on 1.66. I plan on using SSPL by bepe to do the ROM upgrade which i beleive means i dont need to worry about radios?
I wouldnt mind the US based 2.01 if it performed and looked like a stock HTC ROM. I guess if I used the US ROM I wouldnt have the operator settings for MMS etc?
Thanks
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Flash CleanEX ROM...it has 576mb of RAM Enabled, and it super fast! flash CleanEX HQ4.01 if you love WM6.5, and HyperROM or DsE ROM if you prefer WM6.5.x

fillip said:
I am currently on 1.66. I plan on using SSPL by bepe to do the ROM upgrade which i beleive means i dont need to worry about radios?
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thats not what it means.
Flashing with sspl means you cant change the radio, because sspl isnt able to flash radios. So, if you choose to flash a rom that opens the 576, you wont get it anyway because you will still have your stock radio.

Why would the stock radio prevent the unlocking of the 576 RAM sorry Im abit of a novice at all this? So is what Im after impossible?
My concern with changing the radio is I wont choose the right one. I was hoping for a simple way of increasing the RAM because as it stands the phone gets bogged down quite easily and it doesnt matter wat tweaks and programs utilities I use the phone runs at 50+% RAM and I have many soft resets during a day. My Touch Pro didnt run anywhere near this high and I use very similar programs now as I did when I had that phone.
cheers

first of all id like to point out the extra ram makes close to no difference
you need a certain rom/radio combination in order for it to be enabled you don't need to know the details.
just download hspl2
go to the rom development thread and pick one you like with the 576mb ram patch enabled
read which radio is compatible with the rom and voila
UPDATE
by the way vodafone have actually released the latest vodafone uk rom 1.72 so you may want to take a look at that before you go through this process

As i said i am new to this but keen to learn, with the reference of it makes no difference using 180mb of 448 = 40% being used compared with 180mb of 576 = 31%, pretty big difference? ----Is the RAM shared with the program memory as I only seem to have 336mb RAM available?
Thanks for the advice on the latest voda update literally only put up the other day I will give it a try I need to hard reset whatever as something is causing a service.exe error when I boot.
I still wouldnt mind having the extra RAM just havent found a ROM out there by anyone else that hasnt been completely changed from the standard HTC style.
Again thanks for help

you only show 336 because the graphics chipset takes 128.(and so when you do unlock the 576 your useful ram will show 448.
you must change the radio because the unlock only works with rom and radio from the tmous range of roms (or cooked roms based on the tmous roms)
if you don't have a tmous phone then you have no worriesabout flashing radios.they will all work on your phone.(only ones with .50. in the version will unlock ram) it won't affect your phones ability to connect to your provider at all.
oh and the extra ram is nice but not at all needed.it's difficult to utilize what there is already.

hmmm well seems like i have the duff radio:
Os version: 5.2.21869 (21869.5.0.82)
Manilla: 2.5.19211619.0
ROM: 1.66.405.2 (76641) WWE
Radio:2.06.51.07
Protocol:15.30.50.07U
If its hard to utilize whats available why does mine run at 50% RAM all the time and open a couple of programs to run in the back ground (e.g. facebook, opera, calculator) it goes to like 70% and then get really slow. My touch pro was never like that
Im not having ago im just frustrated, i thought the HD2 was going to be a massive step up in performance.

adding more ram only speeds things up if you are currently running at 100%
say you have 1gb ram and it runs at 50% used. you add another gig, nothing will change except now it will run at 25% used. it won't run faster.
more ram means doing more, not doing the same thing faster.
why do you say your radio is duff? what doesn't it do that you think it should?
no problem.you SHOULD query everything. its all very well being given the answer, but if you understand it too then so much the better!

ROM, Radio, HSPL ??? what does it all mean ?

Sorry really to be a pain here, but if someone does not mind, can they explain to me ROM, Radio and HSPL? I think i know that ROM is the software running on your phone. but it that version number increased everytime someone make a custom ROM out from an official one?
Radio as far as i know is for wifi, radio, etc. is this correct ? And final we have HSPL, now what do need that for, and for what use it is?
I am ofcourse asking these questions because i started to look at all the nice ROM's out there and not sure if i should stick to what im doing and keep going for the higher numbers. Would be very happy if someone could quickly explain them all properly and then maybe guide me to other links where i can read more...
Thank you in advance...

SPL - Secondary Program Loader - Think of it as the BIOS of your phone. It starts the operating system loading, and when you flash it verifies cid and region locks.
HSPL - Hard Secondary Program Loader - This is the creation of Bepe and Cotulla and Co. and is a hacked version of the official SPL that bypasses the checks when you flash a rom. It requires SPL 1.42.0000 on your phone to use.
This is the only version that works for telstra phones.
HSPL2 - is an upgrade to HSPL that allows witching between most of the available SPL's, and also their HSPL equivalents. (So if you want to install cooked roms, you might choose 2.08.HSPL, whilst if you want to go back to official, you would choose 1.42.0000 in the HSPL2 dropdown)
HSPL1024 - Is HSPL specific to the tmous hd2.
hardware ROM - The Read Only Memory of the phone. Think of it as the hard disk in your device. This is your storage memory.
'the' rom - When we talk about flashing roms, we mean the file that installs the whole operating system on your phone. This file is 'flashed' to the rom storage space, where it installs itself. After it finishes configuring itself, whatever is left is your available storage memory. (usually around 180 meg on a standard hd2)
Official ROMS have version numbers such as 1.66 , 1.72. 2.10.
Version numbers of cooked roms are meaningless. They only apply to that chefs roms. He/She applies versions as they see fit, however you can get a fair bit of info from the ro mthread title.
Example, they will usually tell you the base of the rom, i.e what stock rom was used as a base, 1.66, or 2.10 for example, and also the windows build version, (the 5 digit 21xxx number, i dont know whats what with those, but the higher ones are winmo 6.5.x) and more as you get used to reading them.
radio hardware - The different models have different actual hardware that connects to the mobile network. That is why you cant get 3g on at&t with a T Mo USA hd2. No matter what software radio you flash, the hardware is wrong.
radio rom - The radio software sits between windows mobile and the hardware. It controls the hardware based on what you want to do. There are all kinds of reports of better/worse battery life, connection strength, sound quality results when flashing digfferent radios.
flashing a radio does NOT require a hard reset, so wont affect your install.
Some roms (example the 576 meg enabled roms) require specific radios, read the rom posts for info.
The big danger with radio flashing is only applicable to tmous users, , if they flash a radio with ..51.. in the version number, their phone dies.

A useful read. I hope you got a thank you...

heh, well i got one now, cheers,

Dear Samsamuel !
Tx a lot ! Although I study this forum now since I am a HD2 owner (who never flashed a cooked ROM) I start to understand these cryptic topic now by Your explanations, making me more brave to try it once. Tx
The only thing I still can´t figure out is: WTF are the REAL differences of the stock-ROMS eg. what EXACTLY is changed between ROM 1.43 WWE, 1.48 WWE, 1.66 WWE, 1.72 (no WWE methinks).
I got so far to understand that some ROM-upgrades are just earlier ROMs with all the following patches included, but some are a major switch from WM 6.5 to 6.5.x and Sense 2.5.19xxxx to 2xxxx, giving new features like rotation in all Sense-Screens.
Plz, get me right, I spend all bad-weather-weekends hours and hours reading in the ROM-cooker-section, read XDA on my HD at airports and train stations but the shere mass of info provided - a little bit here, an info there - prevents me to get the WHOLE picture. There is a thread about which ROMs are officially out till now but with NO Info about the differences between them and which is a major UPGRADE (WM 6.5 to 6.5.x, Sense 1xxx to 2xxxx) and which is simply a better working "older" ROM.
I got my HD 2 now by the help of the geniousses here (You, Cookie, netripper, Moonah, netdrg, BsB, TX, metaldetector-lady and, and, and -and SKTools ) to work perfectly, smooth and without any fault but still would like some features like full rotational capab of Sense, which is provided by later ROMS. BUT WHICH ROM IS THIS ?
Maybe someone could add some infos ´bout that as a sticky thread ?? to decide wether to flash or not to flash when a new official ROM is issued by HTC, cause every ROM upgrade causes a hell of a work to make the HD2 work as smooth and flawless as before (I have now about 50 apps installed and configured to my needs).
Tx for Your understanding

[Q] what will happen if frequently changing the rom of hd2

hi htc hd2 users...i love my hd2..first the stock rom was installed in it..i felt some few bugs in stock rom n i tried energy rom after seeing good reviews for it..once i installed energy rom..i found having hanging issues or freezing issues..well i didnt know whats the reason for it...so again i formatted or uninstalled energy rom n installed the ols stock rom itself...now again i found another one rom named as cleanEX RV Ultra 1.01 ..its great n its compatible with my hd2 version...n i am running on it only..today i saw a tmobile updated official rom of 3.14 n i am plannin to install it..but i am scared what ll happen if frequently changing the rom...whether it ll affect my hd2 or cause any damage etc etc
thanks for the reply..
phone-T-mobile htc hd2
Os version-21913
Rom version- cleanEX RV Ultra 1.01
Radio version-2.08.50.08_2

nothing will happen
Just remember to run task29 before you flash your new rom

I have my device now for about 15 mounts, and in the meal wile I have install more than 70 Rom's on it without any problems.
The most important is not how much Rom versions you will install but eater if you would do it correctly.

Why don't you put HSPL3 2.08HSPL and MAGLDR1.13 on it so you can have Android on NAND, Windows Phone 7, hah? . . . now we're talking

Like kurt-willems, my HD2 is like 15 months old, I´m a flashaholic since other devices in the past. I think I flashed roughly 50 custom ROMs (plus some stock ROM flashes before task29 was possible with stand-alone apps).
It is being said that the memory chip technology which stores the OS ROM can be at least re-written 1000 times. I don´t think I will still use the HD2 in 20 years.
Maybe, I´ll keep it as a souvenir as one of the greatest smartphones in the early 2000´s. And at least 1 ROM of each OS on an SD... just for fun, hehe...

I couldn't really remembered how many ROM flashing i've had done since my Dopod 838 Pro, TyTN II, Touch Pro, Touch Pro2, Snap and now HD2, nothings bad happened. So the point is, it's safe as long as You do by the rule Sir. Go a head, You can do more than just that, Cheers

erwinpiero said:
I couldn't really remembered how many ROM flashing i've had done since my Dopod 838 Pro, TyTN II, Touch Pro, Touch Pro2, Snap and now HD2, nothings bad happened. So the point is, it's safe as long as You do by the rule Sir. Go a head, You can do more than just that, Cheers
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Bro, your avatar is the same with the signature of Bro Tictac (above your post )
I have been flashing my HD2 for 13 months and I tried almost all wwe roms available in XDA and HTC Pedia. But I think it still below 1000 times.
And when it reaches 1000 times and something happen with my HD2, I will not regret it because HD2 is the best phone ever made by HTC
Cheers....
PS. Win, sudah berhasil dual boot nya?

what are the requirement for installin Nand Android Rom on tmobile hd2??
hi friends actually i have hd2 for the past 6 months..but still i didnt know how to install android in this t mobile hd2...i am a die hard fan of android...but wanted to make sure what r the requirements for installin the android rom..i mean the radio version required,the windows version,hspl etc etc..
thanks for the reply
phone-T-mobile htc hd2
Os version-21913
Rom version- cleanEX RV Ultra 1.01
Radio version-2.08.50.08_2

vishbad said:
hi friends actually i have hd2 for the past 6 months..but still i didnt know how to install android in this t mobile hd2...i am a die hard fan of android...but wanted to make sure what r the requirements for installin the android rom..i mean the radio version required,the windows version,hspl etc etc..
thanks for the reply
phone-T-mobile htc hd2
Os version-21913
Rom version- cleanEX RV Ultra 1.01
Radio version-2.08.50.08_2
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Since you are running a custom ROM, then you alread have HSPL running. I would go into BootLoader Mode to confirm that the SPL is 2.08.HSPL
Your RADIO is fine (although there are a few updated verions 2.12.50 and the 2.15.50 are the more popular).
Once all that is done then you are able to go into the Android NAND ROM Flashing.

fred_up said:
Since you are running a custom ROM, then you alread have HSPL running. I would go into BootLoader Mode to confirm that the SPL is 2.08.HSPL
Your RADIO is fine (although there are a few updated verions 2.12.50 and the 2.15.50 are the more popular).
Once all that is done then you are able to go into the Android NAND ROM Flashing.
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Since you know what your talking about, I have a question I also have the Radio 2.08.50.08_2 I currently have android on it, but I wanted to try wp7, evrywhere I go it says I have to have 2.14.50 and up or a 576mb ram radio, can install wp7 and if so would any rom work using a youtube tut? but replacing it with the rom i choose?Please reply i've sent so many private messages and asked and asked no one has replied. so please help me. Thanks

Dpat09 said:
Since you know what your talking about, I have a question I also have the Radio 2.08.50.08_2 I currently have android on it, but I wanted to try wp7, evrywhere I go it says I have to have 2.14.50 and up or a 576mb ram radio, can install wp7 and if so would any rom work using a youtube tut? but replacing it with the rom i choose?Please reply i've sent so many private messages and asked and asked no one has replied. so please help me. Thanks
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You have to change RADIO by your own.
See this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611787