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I am not sure why this issue has all of a sudden popped up. I have been using fresh 1.0 since it was released. This issue is there even with the stock rom so it isn't the rom. At first everything was great. A couple of weeks ago I noticed this problem and I don't know what is causing it. Before I could use Meridian, Act 1 or the stock video player and watch a couple of movies without issue and they looked and sounded great. Now after a few seconds the video freezes or the screen goes black but the audio continues to play. The way to fix it is to reboot, use advanced task manager and kill the running processes/apps. Then the movie will play fine. After being on for a couple of hours if I go to watch another movie, same thing happens and I have to perform the same reboot/task manager ritual again. I tried using another sd card in case there was a problem with this one and the same things happens. This issue did not exist a couple of weeks ago. Does anyone know why this might be happening? Keep in mind I have not installed anything nor have the movies been changed.
Try turning off all 3 location service options, just to see if it's related to the location manager chewing up your CPU.
Unfortunately those settings are already off. I guess when I get back town this weekend I am going to have to wipe and start with a new build and root it again and flash to Fresh 1.0 and then see if the issue is gone. I have tried everything I can think of and it is still happening. I am still puzzled why it just started out of the blue.
I think I have found the culprit. I tried a different card with the same result. I formatted the card and ran chkdsk on it and then copied the data back to it and checked to see if it would need a defrag and of course it didn't. I terminated the Weatherbug widget I had on my homescreen and so far I have been able to play movies without issue.
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... and checked to see if it would need a defrag ...
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A sdcard does not need a "defrag" by definition. It takes the same amount of time to access a sector on a sdcard no matter where it is.
Yep. Just covering any possible scenario. I certain at this point it has to do with widgets. I am not sure if it is just that widget or not. I had auto update turned off on that one.
Is anyone else getting random lockups on their phone? it seems like no matter what rom i use it locks up at least once or twice a day. it seems that sense is the only thing that does lock up, as i cant hit the home button and have it go back to it.
anyone?
yeah, it happens to me too...to the point I have to remove the battery
Same here, it usually locks up once every 24 hours or so, and most times it's not even a full lockup, just the homescreen does. cause i can hit the windows button, and end button will lock the phone, just the main Today screen. Sometimes time fixes it, and it'll fix itself. but most times i take battery out
It all has to do with sense.....Horrible i know
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Is anyone else getting random lockups on their phone? it seems like no matter what rom i use it locks up at least once or twice a day. it seems that sense is the only thing that does lock up, as i cant hit the home button and have it go back to it.
anyone?
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I have had the same problem sense I purchased on Mar 24th, after trying to restore the devise 4 times within a 2 week period, I finally took it back and exchanged it for a new one, less than 24 hours, the new one froze up on me too. I searched through many forums such as this, and found that many users are having the same problem, I also read in one that the cause may be in the SD card that comes with the devise (the way it's formatted for use with it), so, 4 days ago, I removed the SD card, and the devise has worked flawless, no freeze ups, and for the last 2 days, I have not turned the devise off, and still no freeze ups. I plan on giving it a week, and if it does not freeze up on me, I'll put the card back in. I reformatted the SD card to get rid of the Double twist program, and the other apps such as the demo games, and put my music, Documents, and Photos back on it, hoping that it will work as a normal SD card when I put it back in.
Give it a try as I did, it just may be that simple fix everyone has been looking for.
Also, just for info, I'm running the stock USTMO ROM, with Cookies Home tab version 1.7 on it, Awesome and Flawless, if you don't want to flash a new ROM, you have got to at least install this add on.
I'll keep you posted on whether or not my test is successful or not
Same here
I've hard reset this thing, seriously, 20 times. Same setup as yours. I will try the sd card removal. Thanks for sharing the info.
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I have had the same problem sense I purchased on Mar 24th, after trying to restore the devise 4 times within a 2 week period, I finally took it back and exchanged it for a new one, less than 24 hours, the new one froze up on me too. I searched through many forums such as this, and found that many users are having the same problem, I also read in one that the cause may be in the SD card that comes with the devise (the way it's formatted for use with it), so, 4 days ago, I removed the SD card, and the devise has worked flawless, no freeze ups, and for the last 2 days, I have not turned the devise off, and still no freeze ups. I plan on giving it a week, and if it does not freeze up on me, I'll put the card back in. I reformatted the SD card to get rid of the Double twist program, and the other apps such as the demo games, and put my music, Documents, and Photos back on it, hoping that it will work as a normal SD card when I put it back in.
Give it a try as I did, it just may be that simple fix everyone has been looking for.
Also, just for info, I'm running the stock USTMO ROM, with Cookies Home tab version 1.7 on it, Awesome and Flawless, if you don't want to flash a new ROM, you have got to at least install this add on.
I'll keep you posted on whether or not my test is successful or not
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depgary,
Thanks for that bit of information. I went ahead and formatted my my sd card today. (Fat32, 32kb allocation unit size.) the phone hasn't locked up yet. i feel that by this amount of time i would have seen one. i'll post another reply if it locks any time soon. thanks guys!
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depgary,
Thanks for that bit of information. I went ahead and formatted my my sd card today. (Fat32, 32kb allocation unit size.) the phone hasn't locked up yet. i feel that by this amount of time i would have seen one. i'll post another reply if it locks any time soon. thanks guys!
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Well, It's been 6 days and no freeze ups with the SD card removed, tomorrow I'll put the reformatted SD card back in and test it further, so far, so good
Here's a question: Do you think T-Mobile put the fastest SD cards on the market in this phone?
I simply changed the provided card for one that I purchased a week or so before I got the phone on launch day. No problems.
The ones Tmobile put in there are cheap class 2 cards. Reformatting the card has seemed to help. You would probably have better luck with a class 6 card. I'm going to wait till the price of the 32gig cards come down then get one.
EDIT: OK so I reformatted my card and its only showing 14gigs of storage, I know its not going to be exactly 16gigs of storage but I should have more than that. Anyone else have this issue?
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I have had the same problem sense I purchased on Mar 24th, after trying to restore the devise 4 times within a 2 week period, I finally took it back and exchanged it for a new one, less than 24 hours, the new one froze up on me too. I searched through many forums such as this, and found that many users are having the same problem, I also read in one that the cause may be in the SD card that comes with the devise (the way it's formatted for use with it), so, 4 days ago, I removed the SD card, and the devise has worked flawless, no freeze ups, and for the last 2 days, I have not turned the devise off, and still no freeze ups. I plan on giving it a week, and if it does not freeze up on me, I'll put the card back in. I reformatted the SD card to get rid of the Double twist program, and the other apps such as the demo games, and put my music, Documents, and Photos back on it, hoping that it will work as a normal SD card when I put it back in.
Give it a try as I did, it just may be that simple fix everyone has been looking for.
Also, just for info, I'm running the stock USTMO ROM, with Cookies Home tab version 1.7 on it, Awesome and Flawless, if you don't want to flash a new ROM, you have got to at least install this add on.
I'll keep you posted on whether or not my test is successful or not
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I would like to try this myself. does anybody know what class card comes with the new motorola droids? I'm thinking of switching out my card with girlfriend's.
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I would like to try this myself. does anybody know what class card comes with the new motorola droids? I'm thinking of switching out my card with girlfriend's.
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droids come with a 8gb.
Still without issue, no lockups.
I also noticed that it was only 14.x gb free. i think its normal though.
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droids come with a 8gb.
Still without issue, no lockups.
I also noticed that it was only 14.x gb free. i think its normal though.
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I think you are wrong as she just got the phone and it definitely has a 16gb card.
defective phone
i think the ramdom lock-ups are associated with the phone and not the custom ROMs. i've flashed about 6 different TMO-US rom from here and they all lock up my phone. so they all can't be bad, right? well, the other thing i noticed was that when it did lock up, i could feel the bottom-half of the phone was hot, right below the battery cover. i think my phone is defective because if i multi-task, it gets hot then locks up. i'm going to return it for a new one. anyone else have this problem?
nick714
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Well, It's been 6 days and no freeze ups with the SD card removed, tomorrow I'll put the reformatted SD card back in and test it further, so far, so good
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Well folks, I put the reformatted SD card back in, while I was scrolling through my pictures testing out the card, guess what, the devise froze up, had to reset it, about 4 hours later, while going through the pictures again, it froze up again, reset it. Then, as before, after a long charge, the phone would not wake up, had to reset again, that's 3 times sense I put the SD card back in. To test the card out thoroughly, I watched Transformer part 1 to the end, and no freeze up, so I cannot say if the SD card is bad, I'm getting ready to try a new card now.
The problem may be with the Devise's SD driver. Another thing I noticed is that with the card out, the battery lasted a good 50% longer
This is just my test, but, it seems to me the devise runs better without the SD card installed.
I'll return with an update after the new SD card test run
****Update: Tried the new SD card, the devise froze up while scrolling through the pictures. I don't believe it's the SD cards, seems like a glitch in the SD hardware or the SD driver. My devise works just fine without the SD card installed, who would think that it may be the SD drivers causing the freeze ups. I wonder how long it will take for HTC or WinMo to accept and fix the problem.
Is there a developer on this thread that can come up with a fix, or a better SD driver software?
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i think the ramdom lock-ups are associated with the phone and not the custom ROMs. i've flashed about 6 different TMO-US rom from here and they all lock up my phone. so they all can't be bad, right? well, the other thing i noticed was that when it did lock up, i could feel the bottom-half of the phone was hot, right below the battery cover. i think my phone is defective because if i multi-task, it gets hot then locks up. i'm going to return it for a new one. anyone else have this problem?
nick714
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Same here, the back of my phone would be hot as well, try removing the SD card for a few days, as I did, and see if your phone stops freezing up, mine seems to work great without the card installed, and the battery last longer.
will buy a new one and see
i def think its the card, maybe it gets hot when you charge/ run heavy apps like wifi and when it goes to read the card it miss reads and freezes, cause i install all apps on my card as to not clutter the fone just yet, i will def be buying a new sdcard and probably swapping out cards hahaha and returning old stock one. hahah thus having a sweet better class 16g card for free
I get frequent lockups with Sense, but when I switch to the standard Winmo interface, it never locks up. I don't think it's the memory card as much as HTC's sense.
lock up exiting messaging
I have had the phone since the 14th, I am running the stock T-Mobile USA rom (not flashing another rom until I decide if I'm going to keep the phone) The only time that I have had the phone lock up is when exiting the messaging tab on Sense.
It seems to have started after I updated the myphone application in order to back up text messages.
Hey,
My Vibrant CONSTANTLY keep rescanning the media on the SD, and its slowing the phone to a crawl. Ill watch it start, finish, and then start again 30 seconds later (or so). Anyone else have this, and if so, did you find a solution?
Thanks!
Sounds buggy...mine usually just does it if I reboot the phone
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Actually my ONLY complaint about this phone not constantly but every time I reboot and it takes a good while scanning, if I try to press on any button while scanning the phone freezes, there has to be a tweak to disable this feature when vibrant roms become available..
Thats my issue too....it freezes, the screen goes off, the button backlight stays on, and I cant do anything but hard-reset it by holding the power or pulling the battery. ive deleted almost everything of the internal SD, so I have no idea why its freezing
I remove the external card and still experiencing the same thing, I just don't understand how my old HD2 with buggy winOS never did this, come on Developers Android is an awesome OS and extremely configurable, PLEASE fix this issue for us.
Mine does it on reboot and after I unplug it from my pc. It is a little annoying but it doesn't last too long.
It's scanning 16gb of memory for media changes. Why would you expect that to be faster than 20-30 seconds. Are you guys serious?
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If it's doing it constantly and not just on reboot than that is definitely a defect.
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The media scanner runs for me, at least, every time the userspace filesystem is modified, so on unplug from PC, file copy/deletes in the file manager, bluetooth unpair...etc. If you have an app that is frequently writing to /sdcard then that's probably triggering it for you.
Did you replace your SD card with one from another phone? I don't get any major scanning issues
Just exchanged the phone for a new one. Will report back.
No, I am using the stock SD card (Not ready to lose Avatar yet)
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Just exchanged the phone for a new one. Will report back.
No, I am using the stock SD card (Not ready to lose Avatar yet)
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I know you can copy avatar to the internal memory and it will still work... but the link on the app won't find it, you'll have to go to files, ect. I'm pretty sure you can copy it to another SD card without any trouble. As far as the media scanner, it is pretty annoying...scanned alot when I first got the phone ..of course moving around avatar, it took a long time to rescan and it scanned several times. Now it seems to scan evertime I move or delete a file ...sometimes it scanns more than once but its usually pretty fast. It would be cool to change the settings to rescan only when you specify or something.
i have just over 7 gig of music on my sd card, scan after reboot lasts less than a min.
<edit> it is a class 6 card, so that might help with the speed etc...
I was messing around in /system and looked at one of the .conf files. There's a line in there for media with a value of "on". I'm sure if you edit it to "off" it'll stop scanning but who know what the negative effects would be.
Ya, I never had this media scanning on my G1, on any build. Wonder if it has something to do with the Internal SD and some sort of database it maintains of it. No idea why it wouldn't be simple flash memory though, exactly like an SD card
It's because of the Music player and such.
I'd still say try a reset. I just did and things (besides the GPS which is not going to be fixed by this) like the market and such aren't giving me such long loading screens. I was installing 3-5 apps at a time. Even the Friends feed widget doesn't have the looooooong loading screen anymore.
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Hey,
My Vibrant CONSTANTLY keep rescanning the media on the SD, and its slowing the phone to a crawl. Ill watch it start, finish, and then start again 30 seconds later (or so). Anyone else have this, and if so, did you find a solution?
Thanks!
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I have this same problem. Typically it will kick into the media scanning mode when opening Google Maps. The phone becomes unusable for several minutes. The screen will shut off and then comes back on close to a minute after hitting the power button. Sometimes it will display "Safe Mode" in the lower left corner.
yeah, I have an 8 gig card which is basically full and the media scanning I only notice on boot ups. And this takes very little time (20 seconds maybe).
I'm curious if you have a corrupt file or app that is causing the issue man?
Have you moved avatar to your computer, stuck the SD card in your PC and formatted it? I wonder if you put it back in your phone and rebooted if you would still have this issue?
Worse case you just move the folder with avatar back to the card, nothing lost.
Do you mind trying a format?
Someone should try the "Autostarts" app. I would try it, but it requires a rooted phone, and mines not rooted yet. This app may be able to prevent the media scanning...
http://www.androidcentral.com/android-quick-app-autostarts
Thanks for the tips. I have wiped, exchanged phones, wiping the internal and external SD, and attempted to prevent the scan using autostarts (although I didnt find anything specific), all w/o luck. Ive removed ALL my music from my internal SD, only pictures are left.
It seems to scan every few minutes or so, and it almost always causes a restart of the Touchwiz process (w/ a reload of all the widgets) and lags the phone a lot (so much that it doesnt respond to button touches for a minute or so)
Im about ready to dig in and disable this scan unless we can find a legitimate fix or purpose for it.
I posted this in the Nexus one forum since this is the phone i use but have not gotten any responses in over a week. This might be the more appropriate section of the forum.
My gallery pictures have been disappearing by chunks at a time. A few months back i lost maybe 100 pictures. Starting at around 700, noticed some missing and was at 600ish. Today im down to 120's. I do not believe this is my SD card crapping out because i often use it for large files and they are fine, its an 8bg San Disk C6. Also the card is maybe 1 year old.
Has anyone else had any pictures disappearing? My most recent photo in my gallery is now dated at 7/8/2010. There were photos on here from 2008 when i got my old Fuze.
I had a buddy that went through like 5 Moto Droids and 6 SD cards because they were losing pictures of his newborn daughter. He wasn't too tech savvy so he just insisted android sucked and is now using a Rumor or something
So I've heard of stuff like this happening before, but I never found out what the solution was. Sorry.
Really, interesting, thanks for the reply i appreciate it. I was about to buy a new 8gb SD card just in case. I have not lost any pictures in the last maybe 2 weeks, its very random it seems. The only thing i do that is hard on my SD card is occasionally, a few times a week load like 4+ GB of files on and off a few times. Taking my work home with me and back to work. But i didnt think this should have any impact.
No one else?
I lost 100+ pictures and 10 videos on my EVO. It happened out if no where because it wasn't long before that I was looking at them. After a reboot, I remember that I tried to access the photos but none of the pictures or videos where there. I basically lost a lot of photos with very little warning, so I keep backing them up now. I still remember the gallery app going from 197 to 14 in the camera shots. This is the same 16 gig microsd card that I had on my Touch Pro 2, and I never had that problem.
I thought the sd card wasn't mounting, but I used Astro File manager and could explore everything without any issues.
I still have no idea what the cause was... Switching kernels, ROMs, radios, and factory resetting hasn't made the issue come back again, so who knows what the cause was.
Is this an issue related to rooting your phone?
I just noticed I lost about 12+ pictures and about 5 videos from my G2 after I just recently rooted my phone.
I double-checked with some file managers, connecting the phone via USB Mass Storage and the photos and videos just disappeared!!!
Can ANYONE help diagnose what's going on here?
I should have never taken the Kitkat update. Yeah, I read all the things about third party apps not being able to save to SD card but I didn't think that would effect the stock apps and the way things normally occur. So.. Here's my biggest problem which has me extremely pissed after attending EDC NYC last night..
I use the stock camera app to record a lot of video. Unfortunately... Like NONE of it saved. I have the SD card set as storage. The pictures saved. None of the video I recorded last night saved. Sometimes it looked like it did, then it wouldn't play. Or I'd get the corrupted icon. I look this morning, nothing there. Thankfully I also brought a REAL digital camera and used it sometimes, but.. All the good video I used my crappy Note 3(showing my rage). What is wrong and how do I fix this? Why wouldn't the stock camera video app keeps my videos?
Another weird problem I have and I can't seem to figure out why it's happening. Many times when I go into settings, my ringer volume and everything drops and goes into complete silence. Like I had manually reduced the ringer sound fromt he side button which I didn't. Then I have to jack it back up.
Also, some apps now have a tendency to save to the SD card right from the Google Play. Only thing is, they save to SD card and are not able to be run. They crash instantly and say they have stopped... You then can't move them from SD card to internal memory either cause they crash then as well.. You uninstall them, they install again on SD card when u try to reinstall and same problem. Only way to get them to install to internal memory and be able to run is to remove the SD card, install them when there is no SD card in phone, then reinstall SD card and they will then run from internal memory cause they weren't installed on SD card. Is there a setting that somehow got switched to install to SD card instead of internal by default? Seriously... Kitkat has made my once joy to use Note 3 complete sadness...
All this badness happened since I got Kitkat. I'm not rooted either. I should have rooted before I guess but.. Ugh.. Is there a root method now if we took the OTA update? TY in advance!
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I should have never taken the Kitkat update. Yeah, I read all the things about third party apps not being able to save to SD card but I didn't think that would effect the stock apps and the way things normally occur. So.. Here's my biggest problem which has me extremely pissed after attending EDC NYC last night..
I use the stock camera app to record a lot of video. Unfortunately... Like NONE of it saved. I have the SD card set as storage. The pictures saved. None of the video I recorded last night saved. Sometimes it looked like it did, then it wouldn't play. Or I'd get the corrupted icon. I look this morning, nothing there. Thankfully I also brought a REAL digital camera and used it sometimes, but.. All the good video I used my crappy Note 3(showing my rage). What is wrong and how do I fix this? Why wouldn't the stock camera video app keeps my videos?
Another weird problem I have and I can't seem to figure out why it's happening. Many times when I go into settings, my ringer volume and everything drops and goes into complete silence. Like I had manually reduced the ringer sound fromt he side button which I didn't. Then I have to jack it back up.
Also, some apps now have a tendency to save to the SD card right from the Google Play. Only thing is, they save to SD card and are not able to be run. They crash instantly and say they have stopped... You then can't move them from SD card to internal memory either cause they crash then as well.. You uninstall them, they install again on SD card when u try to reinstall and same problem. Only way to get them to install to internal memory and be able to run is to remove the SD card, install them when there is no SD card in phone, then reinstall SD card and they will then run from internal memory cause they weren't installed on SD card. Is there a setting that somehow got switched to install to SD card instead of internal by default? Seriously... Kitkat has made my once joy to use Note 3 complete sadness...
All this badness happened since I got Kitkat. I'm not rooted either. I should have rooted before I guess but.. Ugh.. Is there a root method now if we took the OTA update? TY in advance!
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No root yet for kitkat, that's why I kept bypassing update on mine until I got root up. Now on KitKat with SD Card Fix(which you need root for) and all is well. Unfortunately Kitkat has drastically changed what Apps can and can't do with the same permissions they hat on JB. Honestly I agree this is the dumbest thing I've ever seen, but I guess they were sick of the malware and poorly written apps blowing away other apps data or stealing it. It's too bad they had to go the apple route.
Short of returning and demanding a JB phone, Only advice is be patient and hope someone figures out how to root, or find apps that properly work with Kit Kat SD Card settings.
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No root yet for kitkat, that's why I kept bypassing update on mine until I got root up. Now on KitKat with SD Card Fix(which you need root for) and all is well. Unfortunately Kitkat has drastically changed what Apps can and can't do with the same permissions they hat on JB. Honestly I agree this is the dumbest thing I've ever seen, but I guess they were sick of the malware and poorly written apps blowing away other apps data or stealing it. It's too bad they had to go the apple route.
Short of returning and demanding a JB phone, Only advice is be patient and hope someone figures out how to root, or find apps that properly work with Kit Kat SD Card settings.
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The main problem right now is the video recordings. I can't record anything beyond like 15 seconds with Instagram. If I use the camera's video recorder I see it recording, but when I stop it, he recording becomes corrupted and is unplayable. An idea what is causing this? Would reformatting the SD card work? The thing is this is the stock camera app. It shouldnt have any prob recording stuff to SD. The picture record. It's just the videos that are screwing up
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The main problem right now is the video recordings. I can't record anything beyond like 15 seconds with Instagram. If I use the camera's video recorder I see it recording, but when I stop it, he recording becomes corrupted and is unplayable. An idea what is causing this? Would reformatting the SD card work? The thing is this is the stock camera app. It shouldnt have any prob recording stuff to SD. The picture record. It's just the videos that are screwing up
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Change the camera storage to Phone and and see if that works, if so, then it sounds like your card has an issue, or the App has issues accessing it properly. I would start by reformatting the card, if that doesn't work then maybe you need a hard reset.
1+ for EDC NYC haha
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