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X2 beware it CORRUPUTS memory card content!

People beware!!!
This failure X2 corrupts memory cards!
Completely corrputs the content!
Sooner or later you’ll also encounter this –
confirmed by many other users!
So if you still decide to use this unreliable piece of failure,
be sure to make backups!!!!

doministry said:
People beware!!!
This failure X2 corrupts memory cards!
Completely corrputs the content!
Sooner or later you’ll also encounter this –
confirmed by many other users!
So if you still decide to use this unreliable piece of failure,
be sure to make backups!!!!
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Indeed,
I lost 7Gb aprox of very valuable stuff, like source code, documentation, photos, charts, music, software, video, backups, and so on..
I think i may found the pattern (kind of) because after the first corrupted memory it happend to me seeeeeveral times...
Its like if i start an app (lets say a game) that uses a lot of resources, the game is laggy and somehow it closes OR you use another app on the same time that is installed on the SD, like they crash by sharing some kind of resource... im not quite sure but at least two times after "playing" (i quote it because its mega laggy) i saw my Program Files folder EMPTY...
At least this time it doesnt f*** the whole card..

i wonder why OP hasnt posted a single good thing bout x2
i owe it and im quite satisfied with it it hass some things that need to be fixed but otherwise i like it
the only problem i have with it is that loses the sd card sometimes but as i read its the card problem (default one that came with it) its class2 (cheap $#"$#!%%&Z&#&"%%""% provider)

indycar: You are terrible wrong! The card problem issue is the X2 problem NOT card! I try a lot of cards (differents manufacturer, size, class). The point is, that X2 automatically turn off card when you stand by device and it turn on when you wake up X2 again. I´m thinking, that this should be a "feature" to increase power managing capabilities...

indycar said:
i wonder why OP hasnt posted a single good thing bout x2
i owe it and im quite satisfied with it it hass some things that need to be fixed but otherwise i like it
the only problem i have with it is that loses the sd card sometimes but as i read its the card problem (default one that came with it) its class2 (cheap $#"$#!%%&Z&#&"%%""% provider)
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Well I wrote many good things about it before.
With a decent firmware it'a decent device and the best choice!!!!!!
But current firmware is a massacre confirmed by all users so no reason for good words....
The memory card problem is completely independent from the card, happened to me with both cards!!!

Another victim of memory card corruption. the whole content of the memory card just dissappear like*poof*. and the symtoms looks the same. system became incredably laggy all of the sudden. reboot the device and "watch your past disappear" (adapted from STFirst Contact when Borg Queen says "Watch your future ends")...
Ben

the weird thing about my card is that only SOME things disappeared, i had several folders on my card little by little they disappeared but the files that werent in folders stayed and never got deleted, thought the card itself did not gain/lose any memory.

my card is fine .. nothing happened

You corrupted people should try some file recovery software to recover your card content. There are plenty of free recovery programs on the internet. You'd have to stick your card into your computer and run the software on the disk. Report back if you get it to work because if could help others.

ring-bearer said:
You corrupted people should try some file recovery software to recover your card content. There are plenty of free recovery programs on the internet. You'd have to stick your card into your computer and run the software on the disk. Report back if you get it to work because if could help others.
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Most of my content was backed up so I will not hassle with this.
However I would love to know how to eventually format the card to
to not to slow it down...

This whole X2 case reminds me of N97 when it was introduced. Truly 'spooky' phone

My card is also from today one of those who messes up. My files does not get deleted but when browsing the card from the phone it sometimes contains perhaps two out of the folders, sometimes the files is there (i guess) but folder and file names seams renamed. A look at the card on my computer shows every file/folder/file name intact.

Guys,
You who had the SD-card corrupted, did you install any applications on it that you use frequently?

hertell said:
Guys,
You who had the SD-card corrupted, did you install any applications on it that you use frequently?
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As you might have read, my card only looked corrupted in the phone file explorer but yes, I installed every application on the card. Most used is S2P and Pocket player and of course all my music used by the apps mentioned.
If running S2P listening to music,the app suddenly halts. I then shuts S2P down and starts file explorer to see what happened the card looks partially deleted or all folder and file names corrupted (mounting the card on PC shows no errors at all).
In the beginning I had Outlook save incoming mail on card but as the card disconnects outlook creates a folder, Storage Card in root of phone. That creates a problem when the phone mounts the card again since it gets named Storage Card2 instead. That messes up all short cuts created by me or phone to the applications installed at the card.
I use card pre packed with phone and I see no reason to try another since others here reports no difference when replacing card.

hertell said:
Guys,
You who had the SD-card corrupted, did you install any applications on it that you use frequently?
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The moment my card got corrputed
I quit using X2 completely.
I've seen no sense in further struggling and
I also have no time for that.
Why the question?
MR2 also screws it?!

TLDR: Don't install programs or attachments on your storage card.
I am now 100% certain that power management is behind the disappearing storage card issue, and is a culprit in a number of other bugs. It looks like when you put the device into standby, it switches off power to a number of components.
It's easy to see what happens with the storage card if you use SPB Mobile Shell. There's a handy shortcut under Tools - Browse Files - Storage Card. If you put that shortcut on your home screen and come out of standby, you'll usually see the icon return to the default unassigned shortcut. After anywhere between a fraction of and many seconds, the SD card icon will reappear.
Seems like some genius engineer at Foxconn, not knowing much about WinMo or stuff in general thought he was being very clever by saving what, 10mA? in shutting it off. Think of all those extra minutes of standby time saved.
I too suffered from a corrupted FAT, but thankfully all I really lost was MP3s I already had elsewhere. Since I figured out what's going on, I've had no trouble whatsoever. It does of course mean that I've had to make yet more compromises in the functionality of the device. The key is to make sure not to install programs on the storage card, or if you must, make sure the phone doesn't go into standby while running them. Also, don't choose to store email and MMS attachments on the card, or you'll get the Storage Card2 problem.
Stupid power management also explains these other things that have been bothering me, and many of you:
Notification sounds and lights not working properly.
Sporadic checking of email.
Custom ringtones disappearing (Hint: put them on main memory).
The phone randomly freezing when trying to work with Bluetooth car kits.
Presumably Sony engineers are aware of this, because if they aren't, God help us. I'm guessing that power management is such a low level issue that it's very difficult to fix with firmware if at all. That being the case, I'm not confident this phone will ever work properly and has most likely sounded the death knell for me for both Sony Ericsson and WinMo.

@bedlam_au
You may be right about power management.
That may be the answer.
Before my card corruption when I was entering SlideView
I always saw it REFRESHING media content,
like looking for it again and again....

have you tried it?
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\State\Suspend]
"shc1:"=dword:00000000
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\State\Resuming]
"shc1:"=dword:00000000
We have been testing it with my friend for a while (since 24th of april) and he hasn't got any storage card problems after applying this *.reg. He had them every time before that.

@ultrashot: I think you've done it! Changed those keys and didn't even need to soft reset. I've been checking all day and haven't seen the storage card disappear once. Presumably it's going to stay that way.
Does someone feel like making up a cab for this? It'd make many people's day.

bedlam_au,

Thoughts on DVP crashing issues

I've had the phone for about a week now, and it's been really crash-prone and unstable for the first couple of days. I previously had an HD7 for 4 weeks, so I immediately set up my DVP like I had the HD7 set up.
It was so buggy, I hard reset at least a couple of times in those few days. My most recent hard reset was on Sunday, and lo and behold, I didn't experience any crashes for 4 days!
That started me thinking. The difference between the previous hard reset and the current hard reset was that I hadn't loaded many apps or any mp3s yet - so I loaded the same amount of MP3s as I had before (about 8gb) and immediately any new programs started crashing! In fact, I think just about anything that wrote to the disk exhibited errors, from newly downloaded and installed apps to existing apps which does disk I/O. The marketplace crashed all the time while downloading or installing apps.
My best guess as to the cause of the issue is that the SD card is corrupting data. As long as you are using the internal storage, everything runs fine - but once data is written to the SD card, things are getting corrupted. I'm not sure about this, it's just a guess.
At the OS level, the internal storage is combined with the SD card into a single logical disk - AKA JBOD in RAID terms. I'm not sure about the OS-level algorithm it uses to determine whether or not to save to internal vs SD card, but my guess is that it writes to the internal first, then when that is exceeded, it writes to the SD card. Even after removing some MP3s, I still had crashes, so I'm guessing that it doesn't overwrite the same sectors that previously held data until all the "fresh" sectors have been used (ie it was still writing to the SD card).
If this is the case, then the culprits could be either A) Dell's crappy SD card drivers corrupting the data or B) a crappy quality SD card corrupting the data. Given their recent QC issues i'm inclined to think it's B - but I hope it's A because that would imply a software fix as opposed to having to replace hardware.
Either way, I'll write a program to test my hypothesis: It'll create a test files of a specific size and then read them back and check that the test data is correct.
Thoughts? Has anybody else noticed similar behavior after filling up their storage?

I suspected the SD card as well, which is why I included the remaining storage space in the options in the poll at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=891295
That being said, some others have said that doing a system reset on their phone did not fix the crashing problems. There are 2 major unknown variables here of course - when the phone is using the SD card vs. internal memory, and whether everyone is experiencing the same type of crashing.

pjfan75 said:
I suspected the SD card as well, which is why I included the remaining storage space in the options in the poll at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=891295
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Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if there were multiple causes for the all the crashes people are experiencing - most likely the SD card may be responsible for some of those, while other issues are causing more crashes.
Impossible to tell at the moment, though. But perhaps the reason why people associated wifi with crashing was that they were using the wifi to load more data than they were over 3G?

I've thought about the apps too. AP mobile is one that is involved on my list. Shazam, yelp, where, are others. I an make my hd7 crash with each of them. However, that does not eliminate sd card. Optimal read/write access speed will probably impact crash, lag, and performance.

Based on this thread it sounds like it's probably more of a driver issue.

alodar1 said:
I've thought about the apps too. AP mobile is one that is involved on my list. Shazam, yelp, where, are others. I an make my hd7 crash with each of them. However, that does not eliminate sd card. Optimal read/write access speed will probably impact crash, lag, and performance.
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I've used those apps on the HD7 and I don't think they ever crashed it - not nearly as often as the DVP crashes.

zaijian said:
But perhaps the reason why people associated wifi with crashing was that they were using the wifi to load more data than they were over 3G?
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That and also at a much higher rate than 3G typically.

zaijian said:
Based on this thread it sounds like it's probably more of a driver issue.
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I don't know if I would agree with that. I would hope that drivers would be the same on all devices. To have 1 fail and 20 not fail....is it driver? I would be curious to know what the failure rates would be. Sure we see alot of complaints here on this forum....but there is not a whole lot of traffic about failure of the DVP. All in All, I'm happy with the DVP. I also have a HD7...and I'm happy with that. I have them both sitting here...and when I make a decision to use a phone of my choice...I've chosen the DVP.
With all things being equal, if I get into a fight, the DVP can be used as a weapon.

I've used up quite a bit of storage but the only time I seem to get a crash is when I enable WiFi, otherwise my DVP seems to run stable.

efjay said:
I've used up quite a bit of storage but the only time I seem to get a crash is when I enable WiFi, otherwise my DVP seems to run stable.
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I have the same results, I went crash free for 2 days without WiFi I wanted to test it and turned it back on and it crashed within a few min.
I have a replacement coming from Dell but I doubt they will have it fixed. I'm hoping it would be something that can be fixed by an update.

Mine crashes too!!
I too am experiencing many of the issues that have been posted on this forum (crashing w/wo wifi, while in MP, or when an app needs data from the internet). Twice I have reached in my pocket, hit the power button to bring up the lock screen and nothing happens - just a blank screen. Hence had to pull the battery and reboot.
A couple of other things I have noticed that I am not sure I have seen on the forums. Does anyone else have a DVP where the top left edge and the bottom right edge are not flush with the bottom of the phone? It is slight, but I noticed it on day one. Also, I have a heck of a time with the accelerometer sticking. Sometimes it refuses to go back into portrait mode. No mater how I turn and twist it (360 deg).
Anyone else experience this?

I used to use the power button to get to the unlock screen, but after fumbling with it a few times in the dark, I switched to flipping out the keyboard, which does the same thing. And while it did often take multiple presses of the power button to wake the DVP, I have never had to pull the battery.

I've had the DVP since November 8th, and had it crash on my severely enough for a battery pull maybe 3-4 times tops. This is both on the "engineering" phone and the "retail" phone. The only difference I have with you guys - and this is pretty significant - is that I hacked my SD card pretty much within the first couple of days of getting it. I've upgraded to a SanDisk class 2 16GB.
Now, I haven't particularly filled it up; in fact, I have tons of space free. But, I'd like to set some facts straight:
1) The DVP has no internal storage. Just a few megs (~16MB or so) just so the OS can run if you pull the SD card. Nothing new here; we've seen this during the first days of the SD card hack thread.
2) If you fill up your storage, and applications request for IsolatedStorage, the request will most likely fail if you have (close to) zero storage free. If applications don't check for that, it will probably crash. I don't know if this is necessarily happening, since I don't have a crashing device to observe this behaviour, but that's one hunch. Some of you have said that the HD7 did not crash when you filled up the storage, which might throw my theory out the window.
3) The SD card used in the DVP is also a SanDisk - I tend to trust them with storage reliability. If it is indeed a driver issue, then Microsoft might have some share in the blame as well - MS writes drivers for the OEMs for WP7.
What we need to do is scientifically reproduce the issue. Instead of general data corruption, another thing to check is to see what happens as storage gets filled up.

kltye said:
What we need to do is scientifically reproduce the issue. Instead of general data corruption, another thing to check is to see what happens as storage gets filled up.
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I attempted to do just that - I wrote a storage test app and ran it on my DVP, and it encountered no issues.
The app wrote test data, filling up 95% of available free space (around 13.3GB), then read it back in and verified the data. I'm now fairly confident that it's not the SD card or the storage drivers that are responsible for the crashing.
I did however, encounter issues trying to download the Rise of Glory game. I had turned wifi off, but it's large enough that it requires wifi or sync in order to download and install. Once I turned wifi on and retried the download, the phone crashed on me.
Let's see if we can verify the wifi + marketplace issue:
1) make sure phone wifi is off
2) connect DVP to computer, run Zune
3) via zune sync, verify that you can install a large game or app on your phone. It has to be one which you haven't downloaded before, as I don't think you can force zune to reinstall an app it knows you already downloaded.
4) disconnect the phone
5) verify the game runs correctly
6) uninstall the game on the phone
7) turn phone wifi on
8) go into marketplace on the phone
9) reinstall the same game and see if you have any issues with marketplace while downloading (freezing/hanging/etc)
10) if everything's still ok, verify that the game runs correctly

@Zaijian
I tried reproducing your flow on my DVP and it didn't crash. But, what is strange is mine freezes (only twice so far) @ random right after playing and trying to get to some other app or switching between app. This tends me to side on the memory as being the culprit or some other component being the culprit. Most likely could be memory related and how WP7 manages to kill an app. Is there a memtest kind of thing we could run on this DVP?

I wrote a wifi transfer testing app and ran it overnight - it transferred 4GB over my wifi (from my desktop to the phone) correctly and without incident.
So, i've confirmed that:
A) there's nothing wrong with writing a single large file to the file system
B) there's nothing wrong with transferring data over wifi
My next tests will be:
1) simultaneously writing multiple large files to the file system
2) simultaneoulsy writing files to the file system and transferring data over wifi
3) some sort of memory test to see if memory is getting corrupted

WiFi seems to be the issue
Not much question that mine locks up when WiFi is turned on. I have been experimenting with this issue for the past few days and while having WiFi on causes random lock-ups, not having it on makes it run without any issues.
Fortunately, most of the areas I use my phone have good 3G coverage so WiFi acting up is not a deal breaker but I certainly hope they are able to fix this with the impending update.
One consideration is could there be an app we all have that uses WiFi that is causing trouble? Has anyone had issues with this from a fresh device? I seem to recall having it lock up early on before I put many apps on it.

jetjockgordo said:
Not much question that mine locks up when WiFi is turned on. I have been experimenting with this issue for the past few days and while having WiFi on causes random lock-ups, not having it on makes it run without any issues.
Fortunately, most of the areas I use my phone have good 3G coverage so WiFi acting up is not a deal breaker but I certainly hope they are able to fix this with the impending update.
One consideration is could there be an app we all have that uses WiFi that is causing trouble? Has anyone had issues with this from a fresh device? I seem to recall having it lock up early on before I put many apps on it.
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My problems seem to occur when I'm going through the marketplace and downloading via wifi.
I verified with my test app that wifi can transfer a large amount of data without errors. This leads me to believe that the wifi itself is not the cause of the issues, but that wifi in combination with other factors may be the cause.

zaijian said:
My problems seem to occur when I'm going through the marketplace and downloading via wifi.
I verified with my test app that wifi can transfer a large amount of data without errors. This leads me to believe that the wifi itself is not the cause of the issues, but that wifi in combination with other factors may be the cause.
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I thought so too but I left the WiFi on and rebooting without accessing Marketplace has been causing lockups as well. In fact, I just noticed it was locked up after a reboot 10 minutes ago and, sure enough, I left WiFi on. I didn't so much as unlock the screen after the reboot although I have also had it lock up while accessing Marketplace.

jetjockgordo said:
I thought so too but I left the WiFi on and rebooting without accessing Marketplace has been causing lockups as well. In fact, I just noticed it was locked up after a reboot 10 minutes ago and, sure enough, I left WiFi on. I didn't so much as unlock the screen after the reboot although I have also had it lock up while accessing Marketplace.
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I'll test using wifi simultaneously with local disk I/O and see if that causes errors.

andriod.media.process taking 7mins CPU time after a reboot

So this process is taking up 7mins of CPU time when I reboot my phone, it seems to be scanning my media files and my photos worth 1200 files ( at 366MB only ) seems to be causing this delay every reboot, removing my photo folder only takes the media scanner 1s CPU time on a reboot or 10s if I cleared the database.
Is this a normal andriod behavior for the andriod.media.process, its gonna be pretty hard if we store a lot of photos on the phone and each reboot the phone is constantly doing something with the images.

i had this same problem, i dont have much on my phone but the media scanner just ate up the cpu for the first 5 mins of startup, leaving the phone useless till it had finished... i downloaded from the market 'rescan media' with that you can enable / disable the media scanner at boot. i find this app brilliant as i have lookout mobile security which scans my apps when the phone isnt being used.
now my phone is usable as soon as i press the power button
EDIT : seeing that you have the 16GB model and a 32GB memory card. thats gunna take some serious scanning lol, just disable the media scan, and re apply every week for a scan to make sure everything is tip top

azzledazzle said:
EDIT : seeing that you have the 16GB model and a 32GB memory card. thats gunna take some serious scanning lol, just disable the media scan, and re apply every week for a scan to make sure everything is tip top
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Heres the thing, my 1200 images are only 366MB If i remove them media scanner works pretty fast, I didnt mention that I hade 45GB of other media content that are non images and they dont slow the scanning down.

FCUK ME !!!! do you work for the CIA lol whats the need for so much data haha..
in my opinion the media scanner is **** anyway. i dont feel the need for it, i plug my phone in to the pc every 2 weeks and run a full scan from norton on it. my phone works better without it. you could always consider turning it off to save time on start up.

azzledazzle said:
FCUK ME !!!! do you work for the CIA lol whats the need for so much data haha..
in my opinion the media scanner is **** anyway. i dont feel the need for it, i plug my phone in to the pc every 2 weeks and run a full scan from norton on it. my phone works better without it. you could always consider turning it off to save time on start up.
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Music/Vids/PC files that needs to be mobile.. basically its like my portable harddrive as well.
Turning off the media scanner would not be a perfect solution as my media wont be visible with the andriod gallery and other apps that rely on the media scanner results, its gonna be an invisible file as far as the phone is concerned.

Yeah it's very annoying. Nothing much that you can do about it though.

[Q] Start Up Load Time: 3+ Minutes??

Can anyone else who has an Xperia Play help me out here? I got the phone this past Tuesday. At that time, it loaded up rather quickly. Now when I turn it on, it takes over 3 minutes to load up. I literally turned my Nexus S on at the same time and I could have powered it on and off 3 times in the amount it took for the Play to load. It sat on the Sony Ericsson screen for like 2 minutes and then another 1 minute after the SE circle logo appeared.
A few details:
1. I am currently in the US on vacation using my Japanese SIM card. Thus I am roaming. The data is turned off however the phone network obviously isn't. When the SIM is out of the unit it loads up much faster.
2. The phone is not rooted.
Has this happened to anyone else? Is there any way to check if there is so kind of malicious program or something that was installed?

My xperia start up load time is aproximated to 3 minutes too.

Jep, same here. The OS is verry fast after the 3 min boot...

It takes a while to boot. Samsung I know have been targeting efforts to get the boot faster. Top of my head I remember them talking about trying to get the fastest boot time on the galaxy II.
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I believe some Samsung and HTC phones are not actually "rebooting". They are going into some sort of hibernate.
My buddy has an HTC mytouch, and he was having crummy performance. I looked at his uptime, an it was over 1500 hours. I told him that's his problem, he should probably reboot.
When he did, I noticed it rebooted very fast. Performance was still in the crapper, and curiosity had ne check his uptime even tho it should have been reset after the reboot. It was still at over 1500 hrs. Then I realized it didn't actually reboot, just went into a hibernate explaininng the blistering fast reboot time.
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WOW...so everyone else is having this issue as well? But it must have something to do with the amount of free storage on the phone, because when it was over 100MB it loaded up much quicker I've noticed.
Also on a side note, with respect to phones and hibernation...
My Desire HD has this issue. If you select "Shut Down" then it takes about all of 10 seconds to start back up. Yet if you select "Reboot" it takes almost as long as the Play. Clearly shut down is hibernation, especially since if applications have crashed or stopped working, shut down does absolutely nothing and thus I need to literally reboot to get them running again.
Finally, in my thinking there was something wrong with my Play, I formatted both the memory and the SD card. Can anyone confirm what was pre-installed on the SD card that I have lost? I noticed Crash Bandicoot was stored there but it can be re-downloaded simply by running the application. I know there are some sample pictures and music and possibly video as well, but anything important?

TokyoGuy said:
WOW...so everyone else is having this issue as well? But it must have something to do with the amount of free storage on the phone, because when it was over 100MB it loaded up much quicker I've noticed.
Also on a side note, with respect to phones and hibernation...
My Desire HD has this issue. If you select "Shut Down" then it takes about all of 10 seconds to start back up. Yet if you select "Reboot" it takes almost as long as the Play. Clearly shut down is hibernation, especially since if applications have crashed or stopped working, shut down does absolutely nothing and thus I need to literally reboot to get them running again.
Finally, in my thinking there was something wrong with my Play, I formatted both the memory and the SD card. Can anyone confirm what was pre-installed on the SD card that I have lost? I noticed Crash Bandicoot was stored there but it can be re-downloaded simply by running the application. I know there are some sample pictures and music and possibly video as well, but anything important?
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Samsung and HTC 'cheat' quite a bit when it comes to startup times. If you compare the time the Nexus One take with that of the Desire, the Desire is much faster, despite the hardware being the same. The same holds true with the Galaxy S and Nexus S.
From my experience with the Nexus S, I'd say the Play is VERY close to Stock Android 2.3.2. Sony Ericsson just added a few apps here and there and skinned the UI a little, but it feels, works and behaves a lot like the 2.3.2 on the Nexus S. Sooo... I'd say the long boot time is normal, and probably for the best for the device.

boot times are about 3 min as well.... however I find this to be a non-issue to me.
how often are you rebooting your phone though? Mine might go for weeks without being restarted... pending battery doesn't die on me of course

TokyoGuy said:
WOW...so everyone else is having this issue as well? But it must have something to do with the amount of free storage on the phone, because when it was over 100MB it loaded up much quicker I've noticed.
Also on a side note, with respect to phones and hibernation...
My Desire HD has this issue. If you select "Shut Down" then it takes about all of 10 seconds to start back up. Yet if you select "Reboot" it takes almost as long as the Play. Clearly shut down is hibernation, especially since if applications have crashed or stopped working, shut down does absolutely nothing and thus I need to literally reboot to get them running again.
Finally, in my thinking there was something wrong with my Play, I formatted both the memory and the SD card. Can anyone confirm what was pre-installed on the SD card that I have lost? I noticed Crash Bandicoot was stored there but it can be re-downloaded simply by running the application. I know there are some sample pictures and music and possibly video as well, but anything important?
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Would like to know what was on the memory card originally as well as I formatted money when I got it...
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Just to ease your mind both my Motorola phones the X and OG were a couple min to boot up.
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I noticed the boot times too, expecially since I don't really charge it much, I run it out and swap batteries as I have an excellent spare battery and charger also know as an x10 alway 3 minutes or so though, probably part due to drm checks, and part due to the storage almost full and it having to go through all the apps and initialize them.

To be honoust i have the phone for a few weeks now and only turned it off and then on for a few times. Boot time doesnt actually bother me.

X10 Slow Down.... Fixed

Guys,
Just wanted to share my findings as Ive resolved a really annoying problem.
I have an X10 running stock gingerbread. Ever since the update I have noticed that the phone becomes pretty much unresponsive for many minutes after powering on. I have traced this to the media scanner process which re-indexes the media content on the sd card after a reboot, and also after remounting the sd card.
I have in the region of 10000 songs and 500 images on my SD card and if I wipe the media database and get it to rebuild, the phone is unresponsive for about 15 hours while it is rebuilt. A click on the screen would take up to 5 seconds to respond, usually with a prompt asking me whether I wanted to kill or wait.
Well, after many hours of debugging my mp3 id tags and photos and formatting sd cards, I have traced this problem to AVG Anti Virus. It would appear that when the media scanner does a quick open of a file to check the tags etc, that AVG would virus scan the entire file and consumes 100% CPU, with what would appear to be very high priority.
Deinstalling AVG has resulted in the phone being perfectly responsive during a full media scan.
This started happening as soon as I did the Gingerbread upgrade, but I dont know if this is the cause, or whether a new version of AVG gets installed when running GB.
Just hope this helps others
Cheers
Graham

Informative, but I don't think many would use anti-virus for their phones as it is a known cause for process hogging.
It doesn't really help either.

Yeah, I'm beginning to see that too. It is a worry though, given the number of apps you have on your phone, its nice to know you atleast have some protection. The bad thing is, if one of my apps went rogue and decided to do some keylogging, would avg have even known about it. I doubt it.
Its now firmly uninstalled.
G
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I have noted that without a anti virus and as soon as I copied my songs to the sd card my phone has slowed down hugely, taking a few seconds for icons to appear on the screen. leaving u with a jerky and slow responding phone. It seems to be better now after the scan but thanx for the heads up atleast I know the media scanner is what is slowing down the phone when it is scanning.

I have got stock 2.3.3 rooted with avg antivirus pro installed. I used to get this problem on android 2.1. I have a lot of songs on mine so any file operation would result in a media scan making my phone unresponsive. The solution is to keep folders in your sd card down to a minimum. I have all of my songs in one folder on the sd card instead of artist>album. Every file operation with adao file manager forces a media scan which I barely notice.