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Longterm disadvantages to overclocking?

Has anyone noticed any long term disadvantages to overclocking the Wizard? Does the battery life permanently decrease? What speeds are you running yours at, and how long have you been doing it? Have you noticed anything at all which indicates it's not good for the hardware?
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i believe that it's safe to overclock the mda...just set it at an acceptable rate (264mhz for me) and make sure not to run the battery all the way down...if you overclock the settings too high the device will freeze and reset (this is a fail safe procedure it goes through), so there is no need to worry...also don't overclock the settings too low as the phone becomes disfunctional when too low (about less than 132mhz for me)...the screen flickers because it's not being refreshed quick enough (my guess)...hope this helps...

I would set it to 240. I have done before, i'm just wondering if it's a bad idea leaving it permanently set to that level?
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yea you should be fine at that speed, but if you want you can overclock it higher if it will let you...just make sure that the phone is stable when using it...like i said in my earlier post my device is oc at 264mhz

Cool, thanks for your replies. How long have you had yours overclocked for? Do you use Smartskey?
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My self i ownly use it when need the extra speed, only with some games and wmv video files. I think it definitely lowers battery life and i would have worries about overclocking all the time and the long term effect it has on the processor (not so important if you only keep your wizard for a year and then change with a new contract - what i do new device once a year!) I found good speed gains with the registry wizard - http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=39725
have not found overclocking produces that much extra speed.

My self i only use it when need the extra speed, only with some games and wmv video files. I think it definitely lowers battery life and i would have worries about overclocking all the time and the long term effect it has on the processor (not so important if you only keep your wizard for a year and then change with a new contract - what i do new device once a year!) I found good speed gains with the registry wizard - http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=39725
have not found overclocking produces that much extra speed.

Mine is also set at 264 24/7. Battery still lasts me all day. Been doing it since the oc program was found which I guess has been a couple of months.

Don't forget, you're wizard is only overclocked when it is active (i.e. not in standby mode). When your wizard goes into standby, it automatically goes back to the default 180mhz. Only when you bring it out of standby does it overclock again (assuming you're running it with smartskey with the option of overclocking on wakeup)

i'm using smartkey to constantly run at 264mhz...i have been doing this for a month now...like i said there is not really any problems with the batt unless you run it down totally...there was a post about this in the overclocking thread...the process is set low so that the phone will have a longer batt life...this was also stated in the overclocking thread...theoretically there is more wear if you overclock it since you are making the processor work harder, so use it at your own risk! if you want to be on the safe side then use smartkey and the overclocking prog in the same directory...then use total commander's note pad (while the ini file is highlighted) and change the value lower when you don't want it to constantly run at 264mhz or whatever speed you want to overclock or underclock at...just use it when needed, but i overclock mine constant 264mhz with great results combined with tweaks2k2, registry wizard, and of course the tmobile custom rom ...internet is a blast...just wish i could get it to run like the IE in a pc
anyways hope this helps out a bit further...

activesync
your activesync will hang allot if you overclock, I have noticed this.

DOnt know why.
For some reason i stumbled onto something, im sure its been mentioned b4 but when running Wisbar advance with a Windows vista skin done by xcillion, i am able to overclock my cingular 8125 to 288mhz at a stable rate with no problems at all, can run warcraft 2 full speed with over 50 units battling it out on screen, almost doubles browsing speed and i can run all the emulators including SNES at full speed with sound. when i dont have wisbar advance running i cant go past 240mhz clocking speed. I wonder has anyone else noticed this or gone higher than 288 without a freeze. Also, my battery life runs steady for a full day of browsing the internet talking on mobile messanger and listening to music at half volume for a full day.

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xSoNiCcRaCkErSx said:
For some reason i stumbled onto something, im sure its been mentioned b4 but when running Wisbar advance with a Windows vista skin done by xcillion, i am able to overclock my cingular 8125 to 288mhz at a stable rate with no problems at all, can run warcraft 2 full speed with over 50 units battling it out on screen, almost doubles browsing speed and i can run all the emulators including SNES at full speed with sound. when i dont have wisbar advance running i cant go past 240mhz clocking speed. I wonder has anyone else noticed this or gone higher than 288 without a freeze. Also, my battery life runs steady for a full day of browsing the internet talking on mobile messanger and listening to music at half volume for a full day.
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hey sonic, where did you get your copy of warcraft 2 for windows mobile ?
I've never heard of warcraft for Windows mobile, how does it run on a 240 MHz overclock?

I got it from the Wargus engine. i can email you the files if need be, i dont want to jeprodize this sites reputation. The game last time i checked was free though...

Actually I'm not sure if it's the overclocking issue or not but ...
For couple of weeks now my Wizard's red led is on all the time, not like it is when your battery is very low but about half of this brightness. I'm not really worried about that, it doesn't change much but it may be connected with overclocking (it was 240 for about a month).
Another thing - once I had sth like 110% speed of every tone played, either a phone call or an incoming message.
It doesn't really matter to me since it's still working fine but it may mean that overclocking isn't that safe as we might think.
TroLoo

Overclock HTC

here is a program i got from the htc webiste to overclock a 8125. i tried it on my t-mobile wing and it works fine. it overclocks up to 300+mhz but 240mhz is most stable.
there is a pretty significant increase in response time after running the program.. simply install on your device>>run the program>>>select speed>>>then hit action>>set clock and presto instant speed

HAs anyone else done this?
Has anyone used this on their P4350 yet? I don't want to wreck my brand new Herald so I wanna know if anyone else has used this to overclock a P4350
Doug M.
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Use the BatteryStatus Plugin can be found in the Prophet forum and was also dicussed here in the Herald forum. It has many more functions plus a much advanced overclocking tool

Hi, I'm rather new to all this. I need a little help. I've installed the soft from idondysh to overclock my herald. It actually works ok. It however doesn't stay overclocked. Any suggestions? Do I need to leave the software active for the herald to remain overclocked?

Exactly, OMAPclock has to run constantly if you want your device to stay overclocked.

has anyone experienced any drawbacks after overclocking>>?

yes... you get addicted to the speed...
it will shorten the lifespan of the processor... but really.. r u planning on using it another 6-10 yrs? didn't think so.

I am very new to this phone... I've been reading around here the last couple days trying to figure this thing out!
Once installing this program, or any other, how can I make sure it's always running?
Thanks!

vazquezp said:
has anyone experienced any drawbacks after overclocking>>?
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Huge drain in batterylife is the biggest side effect you will face.

low overclock speed

How do you all get your Wing's to hit 270 ect? I can't go past 221/228 without having crashing problems. If I go for 240 or higher its White scree/Black screen or squiggles. Do i just have a weak phone or something?

huh. i use 286, its crazy stable enough.
Are you still stock rom? its possible that there are stability problems.
Install touchit 2.0 for wings. Awesomelicious.
Then try again.

It's the same rule that applies to any and all processors, every one of them is different. Some just don't overclock as well. Some overclock to crazy numbers.

Mine will go to 312 with no problem but there seems to be an optimal number for each one. It's a question of trying dif. settings. 260 seems to be about right for mine.

I am running touchit 2.0, and am using battery status for an overclocker. i havent tried over 240 but i know at 240 it just goes haywire. anyone else having mem hog issues with touchit 2.0? i start out with 24-25megs on a fresh boot but within a couple hours 0 apps running i'm down to like 10, before even hitting 24hrs i get down to 2.5megs of free memory and i dont have anything running. anyone else having this problem? or do i have a ghetto ass wing from t-mobile?

i got crash on 280+, but undred that is OK -- (normal herald, no wing)

flyinbird93 said:
I am running touchit 2.0, and am using battery status for an overclocker. i havent tried over 240 but i know at 240 it just goes haywire. anyone else having mem hog issues with touchit 2.0? i start out with 24-25megs on a fresh boot but within a couple hours 0 apps running i'm down to like 10, before even hitting 24hrs i get down to 2.5megs of free memory and i dont have anything running. anyone else having this problem? or do i have a ghetto ass wing from t-mobile?
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I have the same problem. But I guess this is the wrong thread :S

At the risk of sounding really dumb, what does "overclocking" do for my device?
Thanks.

it makes your phone process things faster at the risk of overheating your processor mine is at 286 no problems but if your going to overclock you might as well pagepool it and then it runs pretty good

I use batterystatus on dynamic between 156 and 273.
I've noticed that anything under 156 causes that "buzzing" noise that the wing makes ...

Mine is at a constant 299. 312 Freezes it.

Reduce Processor Load?

With my phone at the Today screen, and no apps launched my WM 6.1 is running at 60-65%....
Is there any way to reduce it other than getting a new ROM? I'm VERY leary about upgrading the ROM, basically because I'm a serious newb with all this flashing and SPL stuff....
Thanks!

*coughs* *shuffles feet*
Bump....

Cheers, all.

The percentages you're talking about are mem usage - not CPU usage
65% isn't that problematic.

Thank for the info!!
it got as high as 84% yesterday, and overnight sucked my battery life with nothing running...is there anything I can do to keep this low?
Thanks!

Are you sure you don't have anything running? When i close all running programs on my NIKI and return to homescreen, i have about 55%, with Win. mobile 6.1.
What have you tried..? Tried a soft or even better, a hard reset of your device?

That's a fair question, because I actually have to soft reset every once in a while after using various apps on my phone. I make sure that there's nothing running in the task manager as well.
Right now it's at about 70%....and that is after a soft reset.
Now, it's not modded (I have a Neon [Bell Canada HTC Touch Dual], so there's no ROM for it yet). Once there's a finished ROM for it, with all of the "muck" out of it, it's probably going to be a little better.

But I question if there's anybody out here who gets the original amount of memory back after closing some apps..?
When I start a lot of apps and close them again, the used mem percentage is always higher than before (I think WM doesn't unload some libraries 'til your memory gets full, because it doesn't hurt to keep them loaded and saves processor cycles)

I've found that as well. If I use enough apps, I have to turn my phone off and back on - eventually It gets over 80% (sometimes It's gone up to 90% with no apps running!)

I have the same problem. The memory kept going up in WM6.1. Any solution to this?

Wing Keyboard SO SLOW!!! HELP????

I am sorry if this has already been addressed. I tried searching the forum but nothing was coming up.
I have a tmobile wing running F1RCK'S 6.1 rom (from The Wingster). It seems like a quick enough rom but I still have the same problem I have always had; the hardware keyboard SUCKS when texting. When I slide it out for a text message, it takes up to 30 seconds to be ready to type. If i just immediately start typing, nothing shows up and then it all starts typing like 30 seconds later. This is a huge inconvenience. I have tried numerous roms, pagepools, overclocking etc. Nothing seems to help. Even when I run a minimal rom and disable all background programs it still seems to lag.
Usually I am running s2u2 and htc home screen and an app called vista hide battery bar. on start up. My idle ram is in the 50 - 60 % usage range. I found that getting rid of the battery bar helps but it's still sort of slow.
Can anyone help with this problem? Thanks in advance.

unknownrebelx said:
I am sorry if this has already been addressed. I tried searching the forum but nothing was coming up.
I have a tmobile wing running F1RCK'S 6.1 rom (from The Wingster). It seems like a quick enough rom but I still have the same problem I have always had; the hardware keyboard SUCKS when texting. When I slide it out for a text message, it takes up to 30 seconds to be ready to type. If i just immediately start typing, nothing shows up and then it all starts typing like 30 seconds later. This is a huge inconvenience. I have tried numerous roms, pagepools, overclocking etc. Nothing seems to help. Even when I run a minimal rom and disable all background programs it still seems to lag.
Usually I am running s2u2 and htc home screen and an app called vista hide battery bar. on start up. My idle ram is in the 50 - 60 % usage range. I found that getting rid of the battery bar helps but it's still sort of slow.
Can anyone help with this problem? Thanks in advance.
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I've never had it go that slow before, but Windows Mobile is just slow at flipping from Portrait to Landscape.
But I've never had it be that extreme of a problem. Did it have that problem off a clean install of a ROM? Next time you flash a ROM, you should try texting before installing your usual programs, and then after. See if one of them is causing a probelm.

This should work
Try using OMAP clock and overclock the processor a little.
My wing is running wm 6.5 and i overlock to 240mhz...
keyboard seems gr8 now.