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Battery Status?

Has anyone gotten Battery Status beta or .04 running on the mogul? I am having EXTREME difficulty. It says in settings that it is on the today screen and yet its not. Any help would be super!!

I'm using the beta with no issues...
I've found that you need to go into your today settings and turn it off and then back on maybe?
Make sure that you are using the beta...I have found that it works well with our moguls and WM6 specifically.

werd>?
the ext beta? mine freezes and and i have to soft reset like 3 times and then just let it sit with no battery in. and thats another thing, why is the f***ing battery so huge? my wizard batt is like 1/2 the size. crazy htc.
thanks for the response.

theblackhandx said:
the ext beta? mine freezes and and i have to soft reset like 3 times and then just let it sit with no battery in. and thats another thing, why is the f***ing battery so huge? my wizard batt is like 1/2 the size. crazy htc.
thanks for the response.
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I know, I used to have a wizard too. the battery is huge on the mogul.
I am specifically using the 1.0.4.023 beta4 build 0219. I think that's the extbeta, but not sure offhand.
The reason your setup is freezing is probably because you turned on too many indicators. I haven't quite put my finger on which one causes it, but I suspect it's the wifi rows indicator. I currently only have the cpu utilization and the power drain indicators on, but it did used to freeze if I turned on all of them. Try those two and you should be just fine.
Also, when I used this on the wizard, the new versions of the beta caused a huge memory leak with wm6, but this version has been working really well for me the past month that I have had it on. Since removing the sddaemon and htc_guardian startup links as suggested in one of the other threads on here, I don't notice the memory leak I was having anymore.
We just need a new rom

i turned everything off but cpu and power drain still froze the crap out of itself. so let it sit for ten minutes and try again. uninstalled battery status. and voila soft reset no freeze. but i will try it again with sddaemon and htc_guardian removed.

A weird problem. Is it a memory leak? ROM? New Kernel?

So...I am running Fresh 1.1, and I flashed Madaco's new kernel...then I enabled compcache.
Ever since flashing the new kernel, my Taskiller widget (which now shows how many MB's of memory you have available) will start at about 94mb when I power on my phone. Throughout the day, as I use taskiller to close programs, the memory doesn't go back to 94mb, but slowly goes down. First it'll go to 90mb...than 88...than 82....than 66...and all the way down to 54. It decreases each time I use the taskiller saying that my maximum freed up memory is only at 54mb, when in the morning it started at 94mb.
Can anyone help me with this? or help me figure out why it might be doing this? Sorry if the description of what's happening is kind of confusing, but I don't know how to explain it any clearer.
Thanks for any help given!

You really shouldn't be using TasKiller. Find out why here: http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
Uninstall TasKiller and you should be fine.

I use it cause the apps build up and kill my battery.

I stopped using any task managers for 2 weeks and my phone never really got any faster it actually was much worse when using the keyboard so I tried using them again and it's not as laggy anymore I don't really know how true that is I believe Fresh but it didn't help me

I've read about not using taskiller elsewhere, but I swear it makes a difference. Whenever I am experiencing lag, I run it, and boom...the lag is gone. It's not just my imagination either.
But back to the question: Why the heck would the available memory be going down each time I use taskiller?

I get the same thing and I have always wondered this also I will start out with a good amount of memory and later on in the day I might be able to get half of the memory I started with freed up

TouchFLO 3D home screen freezes

Sometimes I just hate my phone. I have an AT&T HTC Pure. I haven't done any modifications to the ROM or anything, just installing a few apps. Today my phone turned itself off due to low battery, so I put it on the charger for a couple hours. When I needed it again I turned it on and the HTC TouchFLO 3D loaded, showing my background and the big ugly clock along with my appointments. I noticed after a few minutes the time was off by... a few minutes. The screen had completely frozen. I couldn't use the slider at all. There goes my People, Music, Calendar, Weather, and Programs tabs I use all the time. I soft reset and it comes back, looking normal. I go to use the slider and it freezes in mid-motion... never to move again. I press the Start button and my Start menu comes up. I close the Start menu and I can still see it, although it doesn't respond and the X is gone from the upper right-hand corner. I tap the Notifications bar and my notifications show up. I click close and it's still up, just not responding to taps (frozen is my guess). I've reset it a multitude of ways now all with the same result... even taking out the battery.
I don't get this. It was working fine just a short while ago. I've reset the thing before and not had this problem. I haven't installed any apps since the last time I had to turn it off due to low battery, and it came up fine from that. What could be causing this?
The real thing is this has happened before. It's like if it ever has to reload the TouchFLO interface it just bombs 1 out of 20 times. Hell I was playing around with Android for the thing, which resets the phone when you want to go back into Windows, and not had this problem the whole time I was testing it. If my phone shuts down, roll the dice and I might get lucky enough for it to come back without this problem.
I resolved it before by doing a hard reset. Lost all my stuff. That sucks for what seems no good reason at all. It's not like I was modifying system files or screwing with registry settings. It isn't even a custom ROM.
Any insight on what could be causing this, and how to get it back to normal?
I'm regretting not buying an Android phone every day anyway, but thanks to 2yr service agreements and lack of sufficient disposable income to dump AT&T I'm stuck with this thing for a while.
Thanks in advance for any help and understanding!

Your issue is that you are on the stock ROM.
That's why XDA exists, because stock ROMs are full of bloatware, eating up memory, and lacking any performance tweaks.
Cooked ROMs are not a cause of issues but a solution.
I hated my phone out of the box, but now it rocks...
With that, if you are going to stay stock, I suggest you get a backup program and hard reset.

At this point I'm very interested in custom ROMs, yet I know little about them. Looks like its time to get on it and read up what I can.

reptiletim said:
At this point I'm very interested in custom ROMs, yet I know little about them. Looks like its time to get on it and read up what I can.
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Start with the Hard SPL thread. A link is located in the 2nd sticky.
This is the precursor to flashing a custom ROM.
Once successful, you can cruise the ROM forum for the ROM of your liking.

It's things like this that make me so glad I found this site

You can try installing "CleanRAM" and running it after every initial boot to clear excess memory. You can also configure CleanRAM to schedule your memory cleaning. I recommend you to use "Level 2" cleaning though.

cyberdroxxx said:
You can try installing "CleanRAM" and running it after every initial boot to clear excess memory. You can also configure CleanRAM to schedule your memory cleaning. I recommend you to use "Level 2" cleaning though.
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Unfortunately CleanRAM does absolutely nothing. When TouchFLO 3D re-loads it lasts almost literally 2 seconds before freezing at whatever I'm doing. I've even used the customized process cleaner to stop as many processes as I could (or just manila.exe) and it still will freeze when the interface comes up.
I've been able to get it to the standard Windows Default look and it works now, so that will enable me to back up what I'm going to. If I'm going to have to do a hard reset anyway, might as well put something better on there.

Maybe this might help
i experianced the same problem and the cause was i sync my entire e-mail acc. on the pure and it ran ok untill i restarted it and it boom hanged.
So i cleaned up the entire messaging folder under \Windows\
At restarted it and it was fine
So i suggest dont sync up entire e-mail in any form i.e headers only etc.
If this helps do P.M me

I installed a custom rom from dutty, and now it completely dies while in standby, have to remove the battery to boot it up again. Looks like I traded one critical problem for another.

reptiletim said:
I installed a custom rom from dutty, and now it completely dies while in standby, have to remove the battery to boot it up again. Looks like I traded one critical problem for another.
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Did you hard reset after flashing?
Also, which version of Dutty's did you install?

Massive Problems with battery

Hey guys,
at the moment I have a massive problem with my HTC HD2. Several month ago I flashed it with 6.5.3 and installed some little things, mostly for the design. Everything worked fine for 3 month, but now since this week, my HD2 is loosing battery extremly fast. If I charge it full, it is completly off after 20 hours WITHOUT using it. So I know the HD2 needs lots of battery, but if you don't use it very often, I could use it at least for several days and now, thats not possible anymore. I don't know why, I haven't changed anything. Also I think it got slower, so I checked for running applications with the task manager, but there is nothing????
So I'm kind of helpless right now, also I'm scared that I lost my gurantee with the update on 6.5.3.....
Do you guys have any ideas?

I'd try the easiest first and work your way down to the more complex things:
1) Re-calibrate the battery (sounds like you might have done this by completey running it down and then fully charging it.)
2) Remove the microsd card and see if you still get extreme battery drain to see if the problem is being caused by that.
3) Check that the wifi is idling when in standby and not staying connected.
4) Hard reset the phone.
Let me know if any of these shows a result.

I will do that, btw. I forgot one more problem. I have it often that I can't unlook the phone. so when its looked, the screen is black, normaly one push of any button is getting me back to the keylook screen where I can slide the button, but since I have the battery problem, I also have the problem that the screen stays black and only the hard buttons at the bottom are lighted, but the screen stays black. When I wait for some more time, than I can use it again, but for like 20 seconds its not usable.......it seems that something is using all the processor power.....DAMN this problem really freaks me out.

I know you said you checked for running apps with task manager, but if you meant the one that comes on the phone then I'd strongly recommend getting dotfred task manager (google finds it no problem). It's a much better task manager and gives you control over processes, rather than just listing them.
Edit:
Since it's so easy to google for it, I did it for you I'd only got as far as "dotfr" and google suggested it!
http://www.dotfred.net/TaskMgr.htm

Ok I have installed it, if I check the cpu usage the process filesys.exe is using around 95%??? If I kill the process the phone freezes....also how can I identify process which are not working probably?

Ok, its definitiv the filesys.exe process which is killing my phone......everytime the phone is extremly slow, the filesys.exe process is using 95-100% of the cpu. I don't know why and when this process is running, sometimes it does, sometimes not.....how can I stop this process from killing my phone?
I already have removed the microsd card and the wifi is also not odeling.

Bad battery life is typically not because of the hardware

Hi,
I'm posting this in return for all the information I found about the HD2 and poor battery performance. I read every thread I could find and every single post in them. I learned a lot and that allowed me to solve my problem.
I got no more than about 10 hours of use out of my battery with average use. Initially I thought this was the norm, reading a number of threads on this issue. I could however not believe that the performance was so poor, even taking the large screen into account.
I decided to try and determine exactly what it was that caused the battery to drain to quickly. I loaded BattLog and found it invaluable (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444920).
I immediately noticed that my phone was drawing 85 mA even when it was in standby (or what I thought was standby). Based on what I was reading, the current draw should not be more than 5 mA while the phone is in standby.
I noticed in one of the threads that there were complaints about G-Profile causing battery drain. Since I had it on my phone I thought that might be a logical place to look. I uninstalled it a lo and behold... the current draw fell to below 5 mA when the phone was in standby!
In addition I loaded Bandswitch which switches off my 3G connection after it has not been used for 60 seconds.
Now I have about 48+ hours of battery life. When not using the phone a lot it extends to a lot more than 48 hours.
The long and short of it is that if you get poor battery performance, chances are it is because of some software that is installed on your phone.
Here are a couple of usefull things I have found in helping resolve my battery issues:
1) Use Batlog (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444920) to log the current your phone draws. If it draws more than 5 mA during standby you have a problem, most probably related to a piece of software on your phone
2) Your phone should not be drawing much more than about 150 mA when in 'active' mode with the screen at 40% brightness.
3) If you are running G-Profile, uninstall it and recheck your current draw. Chances are that it is the culprit.
4) Having an active data connection does draw power from the battery. In my case this is about an additional 130 mA. Load something like Bandswitch to disable the data connection when it is not needed.
I hope this information helps somebody. I realise that the situation is different for everybody out there because of all the variants such as age of the battery, sofware loaded and use. However, the reality is that the battery issues are most probably not because of a bad battery or the hardware but rather because of software on the phone.
BTW I am running:
OS Version: 5.2.21869
Manilla version: 2.5.19211619.0
ROM version: 1.48.421.2 (71294) WWE
Radio version: 2.05.51.05_2
Regards

gerhardvr said:
Hi,
I'm posting this in return for all the information I found about the HD2 and poor battery performance. I read every thread I could find and every single post in them. I learned a lot and that allowed me to solve my problem.
I got no more than about 10 hours of use out of my battery with average use. Initially I thought this was the norm, reading a number of threads on this issue. I could however not believe that the performance was so poor, even taking the large screen into account.
I decided to try and determine exactly what it was that caused the battery to drain to quickly. I loaded BattLog and found it invaluable.
I immediately noticed that my phone was drawing 85 mA even when it was in standby (or what I thought was standby). Based on what I was reading, the current draw should not be more than 5 mA while the phone is in standby.
I noticed in one of the threads that there were complaints about G-Profile causing battery drain. Since I had it on my phone I thought that might be a logical place to look. I uninstalled it a lo and behold... the current draw fell to below 5 mA when the phone was in standby!
In addition I loaded Bandswitch which switches off my 3G connection after it has not been used for 60 seconds.
Now I have about 48+ hours of battery life. When not using the phone a lot it extends to a lot more than 48 hours.
The long and short of it is that if you get poor battery performance, chances are it is because of some software that is installed on your phone.
Here are a couple of usefull things I have found in helping resolve my battery issues:
1) Use Batlog to log the current your phone draws. If it draws more than 5 mA during standby you have a problem, most probably related to a piece of software on your phone
2) Your phone should not be drawing much more than about 150 mA when in 'active' mode with the screen at 40% brightness.
3) If you are running G-Profile, uninstall it and recheck your current draw. Chances are that it is the culprit.
4) Having an active data connection does draw power from the battery. In my case this is about an additional 130 mA. Load something like Bandswitch to disable the data connection when it is not needed.
I hope this information helps somebody. I realise that the situation is different for everybody out there because of all the variants such as age of the battery, sofware loaded and use. However, the reality is that the battery issues are most probably not because of a bad battery or the hardware but rather because of software on the phone.
BTW I am running:
OS Version: 5.2.21869
Manilla version: 2.5.19211619.0
ROM version: 1.48.421.2 (71294) WWE
Radio version: 2.05.51.05_2
Regards
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and imagine that your rom version is accused of massive batt draining!
an upgrade to 1.66 / 1.72 should make a difference..or a custom rom

batlog?
Hi Gerhardvr,
What is the batlog software you used?
I'm very interested about your post.
Thanks.
J6B.

Very useful findings, gerhardvr. Thanks!

found BattLog
ok, I found BattLog
It's just in showthread.php?t=444920
Have a nice day guys.
cu
J6B.

When I ran the Test, it said that I was using up 242mA in standby! I dont believe I have G-Profile installed, unless it was pre installed on the device. I have the latest versions of the ROM, Radio, Manila, and OS version, so I know the culprit cant be the ROM version... Any ideas? I bought this phone from T-Mobile US.... Sooo yeah

Folks, I've been trying to get to the bottom of this as well. I have a number of cab files which do seem to help a little. One of the bigest culprits I've found is the screen lockers. Disable them and see how you fair!

soopahsteve said:
When I ran the Test, it said that I was using up 242mA in standby! I dont believe I have G-Profile installed, unless it was pre installed on the device. I have the latest versions of the ROM, Radio, Manila, and OS version, so I know the culprit cant be the ROM version... Any ideas? I bought this phone from T-Mobile US.... Sooo yeah
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Soopahsteve,
I suggest you use Battlog to log to file. This is very useful as it will log the time stamp, the current temp of the battery and the current draw at the point in time. In addition it logs arious events on the phone, in particular the startup and shut down of applications, data connectivity, when you make or receive a call, whether you are talking or receiving on the call, etc. This can be opened in Excel and then analysed and if you are very lucky, you will pick up some patterns allowing you to link some programs to the battery drain.
However, the situation is typically slightly more complex to resolve since the culprit software are usually software that is loaded as TSR application at reboot. The result of this is that Battlog will not show the startup of these applications in the log file since they are already running at the time you are starting Battlog.
You should look at programs that manage phone profiles, screen lockers, screen calls or SMS messages, etc. In other words, any program that does work behind the scenes.
The reason you are seeing 242 mA in "standby" is because your phone is not really in standby. Although the screen is blank, something is preventing your phone from going into true standby, the processor is still active. The trick is to find what this is.
Sometimes the only approach is to uninstall the applications you suspect one by one and see if it makes a difference until you either find the culprit or can prove that none of the them are an issue. Then reinstall the ones you think are "safe" one by one and check whether the probelm pops up again. unfortunately you have to do the double sided approach because there could be more than one application that cuases your issue.
Painful I know but worh it when you have two days worth of battery time with some to spare.
Regards

See no reason to upgrade to the latest ROM
chris2busy said:
and imagine that your rom version is accused of massive batt draining!
an upgrade to 1.66 / 1.72 should make a difference..or a custom rom
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You know it. In reality I would love to upgrade to the latest and greatest but I've customised my phone to the Nth degree (did obviously not upgrade the ROM) by installing all the little apps I find useful, Cookies Home tab (best thing since sliced bread), etc. My phone is now just the way I like it.
It would take me quite some time to upgrade the ROM and to customise it again from scratch and I really don't see the benefit. I might be force to do it when I get to a stage where there are software that I would like to load that only works on the later ROMs but until such time I'm not gonna try to fix that that ain't broke.
Regards

is this the bandswitch u are using? if not, can i check where to get the program?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286844

gerhardvr said:
It would take me quite some time to upgrade the ROM and to customise it again from scratch
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I just upgraded my ROM and did a Level 1 restore with Sprite Backup ... everything comes back except (I think) for wifi passwords.

i am drawing 180mA on standby..
im using custom rom, energy rom so thats very strange, but i have to agree that my battery life is terrible.. so i got to find a way to cut down on the 180mA drain..

I've always had good battery life on stock 1.66 rom losing 3% overnight with wifi and bluetooth turned off. Had to do a hard reset and started losing 15% overnight with the same everything. Did further resets and got nowhere. Ended up giving up on 1.66 although it had been fine previously after numerous hard resets - makes no sense but this is what happened. Just flashed to 1.72 and back to losing 3% overnight what it should be. And that is out of the box, to be honest all the battery saving registry tweaks are not worth the time installing and I leave 3G on all the time with updates coming through.
So it's all a bit random and shame on HTC for not sorting it out. My advice is do a hard reset, switch the wifi and bluetooth off and see in the morning if you have a reasonable battery life (or use the batt consumption program to verify standby consumption is sensible). Do this first before installing everything, getting frustrated and starting over again like I did when you discover that you're still experiencing high battery drain. This ensures that your starting point is a good flash and the phone is getting good life before adding any apps that could be causing a problem.

i have found my hd2 really does not like being in a poor or no coverage area. other phones i've owned have normally coped pretty well with no or very little signal. but not the hd2.
also noticed more drain in areas where there is only poor 3g coverage and its switching between 'g' and 'h' coverage.

fi3ry_icy said:
i am drawing 180mA on standby..
im using custom rom, energy rom so thats very strange, but i have to agree that my battery life is terrible.. so i got to find a way to cut down on the 180mA drain..
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Energy ROMs, just like the name goes, use a lot of Energy
They are baked in with a lot of performance tweaks so it's not unusual to get lower battery life per charge compared to other more down to earth vanilla ROMs.

Thanks for this thread, a lot of interesting information about the battery life of my HD2.
Just to mention: battconfig shows the power consumption directly in the task bar, a good way to find power guzzlers while they are active.
It's a pity we have no central place in this forum with a list of background applications that are known to drain the battery faster.
Or, also a needed information, a list of applications that are known not to do this (like PhoneAlarm, PocketShield).

I'm using the official rom only and have non fancy apps running or installed while I'm using the test bat program. As I speak the SD card is removed and celular radio is turned off.
Acording to program there is an indicator which is switching from -229ma to +78ma is that what its drawing of power?

Euroman28 said:
Acording to program there is an indicator which is switching from -229ma to +78ma is that what its drawing of power?
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+78ma??? That must mean you are charging the battery. The best way to test current draw is when it is only on the battery.
I get about -5ma draw on standby and it tops out at around 180ma when I have the screen on, but usually hovers around 130 - 150ma. I have my screen brightness at the lowest setting possible.
@OP, I wanted to say this earlier... great topic, very insightful.
I have a few suggestions for everyone posting in this thread. Let's try and get some common data together that is more tangible in order to give us a more similar & common perspective for these discussions.
I suggest the following
1) Soft Reset. Once the device is on, do not run ANY applications. In fact don't do anything except for following the below instructions.
2) Turn your screen brightness all the way DOWN! (Turn off Auto Backlight and manually set it to the lowest setting)
3) Check your power settings and make sure that while your phone is on battery, that it is set to dim the backlight after 30 seconds and turn off after 1 minute
*** I have attached 2 REG files below for both Backlight and Power. Please use them instad of doing it manually.***
4) Turn off all the radios (Phone, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth). Let's make our first round of tests with the Radio's off. Radio ON complicates things a bit as there are several applications to keep track of that use the Data Connection. I'll come up with a more comphrehensive list later so we can do the Radio ON tests.
Screenshots
Use a program like Shave&Save and get the following screenshots
1) Use any Task manager and get a screenshot of all the processes running. Sometimes the number of processes displayed is longer than the screen size can accomodate. Take 2 screenshots in this case making sure that you capture all processes. Edit the image with MS Paint or some other Image Program and attach it here as one image. See the example in the post below this one.
2) Goto \Windows\Startup and get a screenshot of the folder contents
3) If you are using Sense, drag the slider all the way to the end (settings) and goto About Phone. Goto Software Information and get a screenshot of that.
Monitoring the Battery
1) Make sure your phone is not connected to the charger or to the computer.
2) Open BattLog (can be found here), set the refresh rate to 1 second and Start Logging.
3) After you start the logging process do not touch the screen / the phone again for exactly 2 minutes.
TIME THIS with a stop watch. As soon as the 2 minutes it complete, turn the phone back on and stop the logging.
Information to post here
1) All the screenshots from above.
2) The current draw (both on standby and while active). Also, please attach the file that logged all the information in this format: Forum ID - BattLog - dd-mmm-yy.txt
3) ROM - Whose ROM? Release Date? Does it have Cookie's Home Tab Installed or any other MAJOR Sense Modifications.
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SAMPLE POST
HTC HD2 (T8585)
OS: WM 6.5
ROM: Energy * Build 21907 * Release 01.JULY.10 * CHT v1.8.5 - Dinik Edition
RADIO: 2.07.50.27_2
Current Draw (mA)
Idle: -3 to -7
Screen On (w/o Radios): -83 to -117

Those figures look normal to me. You should be getting about as good a battery life as a device like this can achieve.