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With my phone at the Today screen, and no apps launched my WM 6.1 is running at 60-65%....
Is there any way to reduce it other than getting a new ROM? I'm VERY leary about upgrading the ROM, basically because I'm a serious newb with all this flashing and SPL stuff....
Thanks!
*coughs* *shuffles feet*
Bump....
Cheers, all.
The percentages you're talking about are mem usage - not CPU usage
65% isn't that problematic.
Thank for the info!!
it got as high as 84% yesterday, and overnight sucked my battery life with nothing running...is there anything I can do to keep this low?
Thanks!
Are you sure you don't have anything running? When i close all running programs on my NIKI and return to homescreen, i have about 55%, with Win. mobile 6.1.
What have you tried..? Tried a soft or even better, a hard reset of your device?
That's a fair question, because I actually have to soft reset every once in a while after using various apps on my phone. I make sure that there's nothing running in the task manager as well.
Right now it's at about 70%....and that is after a soft reset.
Now, it's not modded (I have a Neon [Bell Canada HTC Touch Dual], so there's no ROM for it yet). Once there's a finished ROM for it, with all of the "muck" out of it, it's probably going to be a little better.
But I question if there's anybody out here who gets the original amount of memory back after closing some apps..?
When I start a lot of apps and close them again, the used mem percentage is always higher than before (I think WM doesn't unload some libraries 'til your memory gets full, because it doesn't hurt to keep them loaded and saves processor cycles)
I've found that as well. If I use enough apps, I have to turn my phone off and back on - eventually It gets over 80% (sometimes It's gone up to 90% with no apps running!)
I have the same problem. The memory kept going up in WM6.1. Any solution to this?
Hello,
Being used HD for one week, I found one problem about memory consumption (not a problem actually ).
At startup, about 120M free memory, after using for one day (Opera, view picture, games, stock manager, etc), only about 80M RAM left.
I have tried to use
- oxios memory
- MemMaid 2.0
but it can only free 1-2M RAM, where is my RAM
Yes, I found out the same problem! Try to do a reset and the memory is cleaned again. I use the X button to kill all programs after using them, but it seems to be fludding on a regular basis, also activesync program keep popping up when I'm not connected, and the memory usage slowely gets higher every hour with a few procent.
Does anyone else has the same prob? Didn't use special appz yet, because it doesn't seem to disturb working with device.
greetz,
swa
Swantony001 said:
Yes, I found out the same problem! Try to do a reset and the memory is cleaned again. I use the X button to kill all programs after using them, but it seems to be fludding on a regular basis, also activesync program keep popping up when I'm not connected, and the memory usage slowely gets higher every hour with a few procent.
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Until the phone starts having problems, why worry? With every new device there are threads like this with people obsessing over the amount of free RAM their devices show, but honestly you can just leave Windows Mobile to deal with the RAM itself and you'll never have a problem. There's no need to try and recover all the RAM that you think should be free. The OS will take care of it.
I have the same problem. My guess is it a memory leak in some apps. ITs no big deal, because there is lots of free memory and if it really bugs me, I can do a soft reset every now and then.
Yes, it is not a problem to me until now as there are plenty of RAM available!
I just curious about the kinds of program that consume the memory??
From my observation, WM OS is not doing the job of memory management well.
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Until the phone starts having problems, why worry? With every new device there are threads like this with people obsessing over the amount of free RAM their devices show, but honestly you can just leave Windows Mobile to deal with the RAM itself and you'll never have a problem. There's no need to try and recover all the RAM that you think should be free. The OS will take care of it.
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Clearing your browser cache will retrieve some of it
(unless you have it to cache to the storage card)
I don't bother too much with this as it does not seem to become a problem.
But, I don't "load and leave" applications. I also generally do a soft reset once a week.
However, in SK Tools there is a "FreeUP RAM" application as part of the suite. I just ran it and it recovered 2 mbytes (a bit less than 1 %)
@ Swantony001 :
Hi, there is a thead about stopping Active-Sync activating itself all the time.
Works perfectly for me.
See here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=463013&highlight=active
Greetings,
go42
the memory leak does cause problems for me, well with tomtom7 it does. sometimes i get the message "not enough memory" unpon booting TT and am forced to do a soft reset.
its not often, but the fact it happens piddles me off!
Hi, guys!
I've noticed the same thing! Something consumes active memory!!!
I watched some processes... So "cprog.exe" and "device.exe" eat memory from time to time.
I use Soft Reset once a day or in two days.
If anyone gets a new WWE ROM with that bug being fixed, please, let me know .
Memory consumption is not a big problem now, but it's a bit annoying...
jonajuna said:
the memory leak does cause problems for me, well with tomtom7 it does. sometimes i get the message "not enough memory" unpon booting TT and am forced to do a soft reset.
its not often, but the fact it happens piddles me off!
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Damn never experienced this problem before *touches wood*
Yeah i have experience the memory leaking up starting from 38% to 44% in a matter of hours.
No biggie, but if it comes down to problems like jonajuna experienced then, yes that is a problem.
Using the TasKiller widget, I average around 32M and the rom is just slow as hell.... sorry Flipz, but wow.
Going back to Damage, but before I do, anybody else have this problem? I have it killing everything pretty much.
Maybe its because I'm using Sense UI again?
im sittin at more than 70m...
dunno what else you got running.
i go from 60-84 all the time......i set the memory manager to strict and im using helix launcher with no lwp, couldnt be happier
I'm using sense (sorry, Im a fan) and with task killer set to kill everything but Music (for the widget) Mobile Defense, and AutoKiller. I average 50-60 with 72MB usually free after a fresh boot and killing all tasks that start at boot. That quickly deminishes though and hovers around 50-60. With damage control, I would average 90MB after a fresh boot and auto kill, and would stay around 80.
With 3-4 programs open (one of them being the browser) I average about 35MB with fresh. However with DC I was at 50-60.
I'm using "Moderate" settings with AutoKill that came with fresh. Strict basically turned the phone into an iphone (no multitasking) I wouldn't have the browser and just about any other program running at the same time, defeats the purpose of having a multitasking phone.
The ROM is noticeably slower than damage control, however I was still having many bugs with even DC v2.05 so having a TRULY BUG FREE rom (fresh) is worth the little bit of slower performance.
I seem to agree that Fresh seems to be a more "complete" rom although they are very close.
I always just thought that Fresh's rom comes with a lot more programs (you can remove them, search). I know under Damage's I had a lot more memory, but I didn't have Sprint Football. I need to remove it, but I have been lazy so my avail. memory is under 50m usually, I haven't bothered cleaning it out just yet though.
If you go through and take out the stuff you're not using (even just sense/launcher/android home) maybe also the lock screens/clocks, you may be able to boost your memory a lot.
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I'm using sense (sorry, Im a fan) and with task killer set to kill everything but Music (for the widget) Mobile Defense, and AutoKiller. I average 50-60 with 72MB usually free after a fresh boot and killing all tasks that start at boot. That quickly deminishes though and hovers around 50-60. With damage control, I would average 90MB after a fresh boot and auto kill, and would stay around 80.
With 3-4 programs open (one of them being the browser) I average about 35MB with fresh. However with DC I was at 50-60.
I'm using "Moderate" settings with AutoKill that came with fresh. Strict basically turned the phone into an iphone (no multitasking) I wouldn't have the browser and just about any other program running at the same time, defeats the purpose of having a multitasking phone.
The ROM is noticeably slower than damage control, however I was still having many bugs with even DC v2.05 so having a TRULY BUG FREE rom (fresh) is worth the little bit of slower performance.
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Having a truly bug free rom? When I am getting a text, the phone will FREEZE, and WAIT until the sound decides to play, then it will keep going.
Sometimes typing it will randomly freeze, then spit out a ton of text, then if I hit backspace, it will freeze again, erase it all, and then I have to VERY slowly type.
Its horrible. I'm sorry, but I have to go back to DC. I can't even use the phone.
Here is a good example, yesterday somebody called me, I missed the call because the phone stuck on the home screen with it ringing, finally when it popped up to answer, I hit ANSWER and it didn't do anything. Went to voice mail, I hit the missed call and it just sat there, then it flew to the call screen and then hung up right away (registered a few finger taps and decided I was hitting End Call too). Then I tried to call back, pressed the number 4 or 5 times. Finally got frustrated and threw the phone in the passenger seat. 3 minutes later it rang again and I hit the Answer button and it worked.
This is insane. God forbid I have to get an emergency call out.
Later Fresh ROM.
Wow.
I'm having a great experience with Fresh.
I have (currently) 8 apps open and I'm running 56mb Free.
No FC's at all.
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Wow.
I'm having a great experience with Fresh.
I have (currently) 8 apps open and I'm running 56mb Free.
No FC's at all.
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Me too. Pretty sure there are far more folks who have low to no issues with this rom than there are folks who do.
With apps2sd I am running 64 megs.
Love this rom. No hitches. No glitches.
yall with task killers need to work smarter not harder and utilize the auto killer app and let it do all the killing based on the values in which android works....im on fresh 2.0d and really never dip below 70 or 80 and i dont run
a2sd and i really have no hiccups at all even running lwp...flipz him self said dont **** with a task killer thats prolly why the OP doesnt have alot of free memory
Dec 26: FAQ: Why You Shouldn’t Be Using a Task Killer with Android
And no offense taken. But you have to understand that DC and Fresh are based on the EXACT same build from Sprint. I use my own rom (obviously) and haven't experienced a single thing that you mentioned other than some keyboard lag, which is caused by the experimental keyboard that I put in.
And if you are still questioning speed then you can also check out...
Apr 3: Benchmarking Sprint 2.20.651.1 Based Roms
This is solid proof that the roms are the same. Get rid of your taskkiller, setup autokiller (which is a task killer in a different way. It controls when android does all that nifty stuff in the first link) and you'll have a better experience on every rom, whichever one you choose.
Out of curiousity flipz, what do you find has been the best setting for autokiller? I've been testing several out, just curious what you find works best.
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Out of curiousity flipz, what do you find has been the best setting for autokiller? I've been testing several out, just curious what you find works best.
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I keep mine on moderate or optimum.
ive noticed after a fresh install sometimes u have like 32 mb free ram.. but after a few reboots and such it levels back out up to 70 mb..
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I keep mine on moderate or optimum.
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Thanks . My mindset was Agressive would kill more, so I tried that one out. I used optimum for a while, but never moderate yet. I am probably misunderstanding the differences between each setting
I'm using the Aggressive as well, but I will let my pictures speak for themselves.
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Dec 26: FAQ: Why You Shouldn’t Be Using a Task Killer with Android
And no offense taken. But you have to understand that DC and Fresh are based on the EXACT same build from Sprint. I use my own rom (obviously) and haven't experienced a single thing that you mentioned other than some keyboard lag, which is caused by the experimental keyboard that I put in.
And if you are still questioning speed then you can also check out...
Apr 3: Benchmarking Sprint 2.20.651.1 Based Roms
This is solid proof that the roms are the same. Get rid of your taskkiller, setup autokiller (which is a task killer in a different way. It controls when android does all that nifty stuff in the first link) and you'll have a better experience on every rom, whichever one you choose.
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Exactly.
You can't really argue about one feeling more 'complete' than another one at this point. I gave flipz the Sprint leak, we both did our own customizations but they are basically the same thing. Everything is in your head. We both use the same keyboard (modded HTC one), and a LOT of it is the same stuff, so enough arguing about which one is better/worse. They really are based off the same thing now and have the same functionality. There is nothing that will run on mine that won't run on his, or anything on his that won't run on mine.
also we all use our phones very differently and run different things in combination with others so its really almost impossible to be like oh yea mines running better than yours cause one person may be all with the social networking and all that stuff and another might just need the bare basics...bottom line flash the roms that interest you and you will know what works for YOU
My phone has been running Fresh 2.0d for a few days now and with very minor changes to the base rom, it runs very smooth and fast. After having some issues with another rom I did a wrath of god level wipe on my phone and SD card, from that point on all my FC and lag issues stopped. If nothing else works I would suggest doing something along that line, start from scratch, purge everything, remake partitions etc., "Nuke it from orbit, it's the only way to be sure".
My RAM is usually around 60-70 free, but why is my internal phone memory so low after a fresh install of Fresh2.0d? I just got into rooting, tested out a few, sticking with Fresh, but my Internal memory is around 90 MB, without any other apps installed. Something wrong with this? On this page, dcdave63, shows a picture of internal memory with 131 MB free.
ok so this will happen quite often to me after messing with customizations or just using different apps. I exit apps that stay running correctly (at least ones I know I need to). my ram will fill up, or almost up and then the phone will freeze for a few seconds. when it comes back up I open system panel and close all inactive apps and anything else I feel needs to be closed. this will leave me with 50% or less free.
usually i'm not concerned, but twice now my phone has rebooted due to this. this happened once back in june and now just today. I had navigation up and when I knew where I was going I woke up the phone to exit it, but the phone was frozen. so I put it down and it actually keeps giving me directions. then I heard the start up tone, I didn't bother to look just put the phone in my pocket. a few minutes later it reboots again. again I didn't bother cause I did not need it. when I did need it I found it with no cell or 3g reception and no icons loaded up. reboot the phone manually and all is fine.
I am rooted with the latest fresh rom. but I have only been rooted for 6 days and I have been getting this memory issue the whole time I have owned the phone(release day purchase). including one reboot before rooting.
I keep reading that we should not have to worry about memory and that android takes care of it by closing apps when new apps need the memory. is this really true?
usually I keep it free by using system panel but I forget sometimes. I haven't used task killers as I read mix reviews and I like some things manual anyways.
so, is this normal? am I doing something wrong, or is there a setting I need? do I just need to go get a task killer?
what are the best task killers? and is there any programs I should not kill? or whats the optimal way to set these up?
thanx for any help you can give me
Try using Advanced Task Killer (there's a free version in the Market) and change its security settings to low, then start killing processes you don't need.
While Android is supposed to have good RAM management... Well, as you can see, it's not that great. Generally, if I get under 100MB of RAM available, I tend to go on a killing spree... Of processes.
drmacinyasha said:
Generally, if I get under 100MB of RAM available, I tend to go on a killing spree... Of processes.
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me too... when I remember .. lol
cool I'll try out ATK
My Arc keeps crashing asking me to force close apps and the homescreen it lags like hell and it is getting worst all the time so bad that even opening my texts takes a couple more than 10 seconds... (I do have around 2000 texts though)
Unlocking the screen is laggy scrolling on threw the 5 homescreens is laggy...
Sync turned off.
No timespace widget.
Even after removing all widgets to test it it was laggy
I used advanced task killer to kill all the apps to try the quadrant test
and I only got 850-950 MAX!!
Compared to youtube videos that seem to get almost double scores why is my
Arc is slow is it faulty?
Is it because I only have 40mb of phone memory and about 500mb sd card memory left?
Will I just have to flash my phone and does that mean I will need to flash every 2 weeks???
I think you have installed some applications which caysing this problem I had this problem, then i flashed my phone again & installed apps again (didn't restore).. But i didn't installed all apps at once, i spent time & installed 2, 3 apps everyday to check if the app would make phone laggy or slow. Since then my phone is working awesome, my 16GB memory card is almost full, 400 MB internal memory is full (After root i have removed many useless system apps)... I have more than 4000 sms & there is no lag or slowness Quadrant score is 1650
the only time i experienced lag was with adw launcher and no fc's yet, other than that the phone has been fast - then again i don't have as many apps or data on my phone as you. one thing i did notice is that my lcd's touch sensitivity seems to be lower than other arc's, maybe a defect, but it's pretty maddening in addition to all the reboots i've been having. i've been reading about others that have issues with the battery staying in place and like me, the random reboots, this is my first android phone, so not sure if these things are normal or if it just the arc.
It's definitely apps.
Mine is superfast...
Apps and possibly task killing the wrong things.. you need to make sure that if you're going to use a task killer, you really shouldn't us it on Auto.. and you should make sure to IGNORE anything that is a system task, or anything which persistently restarts.. killing those only wastes battery.
Android isnt exactly the most stable os out their but if you know about the os and know its ins and outs it can not only be the fastest but the best os out there.
My recommendation is look up articles about using and optimizing the os, trust me it will do you a ton of good.
Hi,
It seams that sometimes Android must be reflashed on a Device, especially on Tmobile Devices it will fix most of the problems.
Another tip: Uninstall the update of gmaps and reinstall it, on my device it blocks login to gmail and gtalk from one day to another! -.-
Greetings
Alef
Nope the ARC does not Lag very often and i think its ur device's memory thats giving you the trouble along with that huge pile of messages .... or the Corrupt software that might have crept in ...
My advice would be to flash ur ARC ASAP and limit that 2000+ messages and u will see a difference. Avoid putting too many apps as well.
Arc is a Size Zero Lady ... Don't burden it with Heavy Foodstufff ...
Might create Digestion problems. Keep it Light and it'll stay FIT.
solidkevin said:
Android isnt exactly the most stable os out their but if you know about the os and know its ins and outs it can not only be the fastest but the best os out there.
My recommendation is look up articles about using and optimizing the os, trust me it will do you a ton of good.
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What do you mean "isn't the most stable"? I've been able to keep my phone on for weeks without a reboot. Seems stable enough to me.
Ok turns out I had 110 apps I deleted al the heavy ones and am down to 60 now!! My phone now got 1200 on quadrant. I dont kill any system ups or have an auto task killer set up I just kill uneeded apps before I run benchmarks?
Plus I noticed I have some orange apps that keep coming up even though I never used them... I might have to debrand and try again but my phobe is much much more stable now thanks!!
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chances are it wasn't the number of apps you had which was causing the problem, but that one of them (or possible several of them!) which you deleted were badly written and hogging the processor when they should have been sitting quietly in the background..
Orange is well known for screwing devices with bloatware also.
Wow!!
That's a lot of apps you've installed and most likely loads of them are badly written like iceman said; I installed a file browser on mine not long after getting the phone which would pause the whole system for up to a minute, plus battery was highly drained.
I guess this is result of massively varied hardware for one mobile OS. (Plus bad programming)