Hey guys,
at the moment I have a massive problem with my HTC HD2. Several month ago I flashed it with 6.5.3 and installed some little things, mostly for the design. Everything worked fine for 3 month, but now since this week, my HD2 is loosing battery extremly fast. If I charge it full, it is completly off after 20 hours WITHOUT using it. So I know the HD2 needs lots of battery, but if you don't use it very often, I could use it at least for several days and now, thats not possible anymore. I don't know why, I haven't changed anything. Also I think it got slower, so I checked for running applications with the task manager, but there is nothing????
So I'm kind of helpless right now, also I'm scared that I lost my gurantee with the update on 6.5.3.....
Do you guys have any ideas?
I'd try the easiest first and work your way down to the more complex things:
1) Re-calibrate the battery (sounds like you might have done this by completey running it down and then fully charging it.)
2) Remove the microsd card and see if you still get extreme battery drain to see if the problem is being caused by that.
3) Check that the wifi is idling when in standby and not staying connected.
4) Hard reset the phone.
Let me know if any of these shows a result.
I will do that, btw. I forgot one more problem. I have it often that I can't unlook the phone. so when its looked, the screen is black, normaly one push of any button is getting me back to the keylook screen where I can slide the button, but since I have the battery problem, I also have the problem that the screen stays black and only the hard buttons at the bottom are lighted, but the screen stays black. When I wait for some more time, than I can use it again, but for like 20 seconds its not usable.......it seems that something is using all the processor power.....DAMN this problem really freaks me out.
I know you said you checked for running apps with task manager, but if you meant the one that comes on the phone then I'd strongly recommend getting dotfred task manager (google finds it no problem). It's a much better task manager and gives you control over processes, rather than just listing them.
Edit:
Since it's so easy to google for it, I did it for you I'd only got as far as "dotfr" and google suggested it!
http://www.dotfred.net/TaskMgr.htm
Ok I have installed it, if I check the cpu usage the process filesys.exe is using around 95%??? If I kill the process the phone freezes....also how can I identify process which are not working probably?
Ok, its definitiv the filesys.exe process which is killing my phone......everytime the phone is extremly slow, the filesys.exe process is using 95-100% of the cpu. I don't know why and when this process is running, sometimes it does, sometimes not.....how can I stop this process from killing my phone?
I already have removed the microsd card and the wifi is also not odeling.
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Every so often my 8525 has this symptom where the battery gets real warm, and the power level drops like crazy. If I don't soft reset, it'll kill the battery completely in an hour.
It's probably some application running in the background that's looping or something. I have a few commercial apps installed, but it's an OEM rom, radio, etc.
I'm using mobile shell and the task manager shows me that nothing is running. Is there a task manager that will show me all the running tasks, and not just mine? Something similar to XP's task manager?
roboHaxx said:
Every so often my 8525 has this symptom where the battery gets real warm, and the power level drops like crazy. If I don't soft reset, it'll kill the battery completely in an hour.
It's probably some application running in the background that's looping or something. I have a few commercial apps installed, but it's an OEM rom, radio, etc.
I'm using mobile shell and the task manager shows me that nothing is running. Is there a task manager that will show me all the running tasks, and not just mine? Something similar to XP's task manager?
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Sktools will show processes.
Mike
Thanks, I'll give that a try.
roboHaxx said:
Every so often my 8525 has this symptom where the battery gets real warm, and the power level drops like crazy. If I don't soft reset, it'll kill the battery completely in an hour.
It's probably some application running in the background that's looping or something. I have a few commercial apps installed, but it's an OEM rom, radio, etc.
I'm using mobile shell and the task manager shows me that nothing is running. Is there a task manager that will show me all the running tasks, and not just mine? Something similar to XP's task manager?
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I just noticed the same problem with my 8525 as well. Exact same symptoms. I'm running CUSTEL 2.5, but I don't think it is related to CUSTEL. I have installed the vibration feedback hack recently. I wonder if that caused it, but there is no uninstall for it as far as I know.
have you guys updated your radio? your you using pushmail?
I'm running an OEM ROM, radio, etc. I have several additional programs installed, almost all commercial stuff. I don't use push mail, but I do poll for new POP mail every 15 minutes.
I installed the SKTools trial, but the task manager display doesn't show me CPU utilization, so it's not of much use for debugging this issue.
Upon further investigation, it seems the problem can start when I have the phone in my pocket for a while. When I pull it out of my pocket, it's warm. Maybe it's searching for a signal, or maybe I was leaning on a button. Once I soft-reset, it goes back to normal. For the record, this has happened 4-5 times total.
It happens to me once a week.
Brutal!
I am really unimpressed with this device so far.
Lots of hanging/rebooting/etc.
I think I'll upgrade to WM6 and see what happens.
But when this thing gets hot... wow, it's hot!
Michael_514 said:
It happens to me once a week.
Brutal!
I am really unimpressed with this device so far.
Lots of hanging/rebooting/etc.
I think I'll upgrade to WM6 and see what happens.
But when this thing gets hot... wow, it's hot!
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Love my 8525. Don't have ANY of the problems you're talking about. I upped to WM6 a while back to Black 1.2, and have stuck with it. Love it!!!
Michael_514 said:
It happens to me once a week.
Brutal!
I am really unimpressed with this device so far.
Lots of hanging/rebooting/etc.
I think I'll upgrade to WM6 and see what happens.
But when this thing gets hot... wow, it's hot!
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Have you done some of the standard things to reduce lock-ups and freezing?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1078848&postcount=2
Mike
Have you guys solved this?
I've got similar experience with my new SPV M3100. While it was in my pocket it gets really hot and battery drains very fast. Task manager shows no running apps. Happened to me a few times in two weeks on both WM5 and WM6 ROMs.
P.S. There wasn't a SIM card in the device and the device was in flight mode! So no searching for signal...
Perhaps messenger is running?
I had the issue where I thought I had closed messenger, but it was running in the background. It kept trying to connect to the internet, and it took me a while to find out I hadn't closed it.
Jörg
roboHaxx said:
Every so often my 8525 has this symptom where the battery gets real warm, and the power level drops like crazy. If I don't soft reset, it'll kill the battery completely in an hour.
It's probably some application running in the background that's looping or something. I have a few commercial apps installed, but it's an OEM rom, radio, etc.
I'm using mobile shell and the task manager shows me that nothing is running. Is there a task manager that will show me all the running tasks, and not just mine? Something similar to XP's task manager?
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I had that problem when i used softbank x01ht at beginning. Also suspected that there are problems in software or battery like you guys. But finally it turns out the problem of phone circuit board. I sent it to repair center and now its ok.
Solution
Your camera software is running in the background and is heating up the processor while running. You must make sure you close out of the camera software completely when you finish using it. I ran into this problem too and found this solution to work.
With my phone at the Today screen, and no apps launched my WM 6.1 is running at 60-65%....
Is there any way to reduce it other than getting a new ROM? I'm VERY leary about upgrading the ROM, basically because I'm a serious newb with all this flashing and SPL stuff....
Thanks!
*coughs* *shuffles feet*
Bump....
Cheers, all.
The percentages you're talking about are mem usage - not CPU usage
65% isn't that problematic.
Thank for the info!!
it got as high as 84% yesterday, and overnight sucked my battery life with nothing running...is there anything I can do to keep this low?
Thanks!
Are you sure you don't have anything running? When i close all running programs on my NIKI and return to homescreen, i have about 55%, with Win. mobile 6.1.
What have you tried..? Tried a soft or even better, a hard reset of your device?
That's a fair question, because I actually have to soft reset every once in a while after using various apps on my phone. I make sure that there's nothing running in the task manager as well.
Right now it's at about 70%....and that is after a soft reset.
Now, it's not modded (I have a Neon [Bell Canada HTC Touch Dual], so there's no ROM for it yet). Once there's a finished ROM for it, with all of the "muck" out of it, it's probably going to be a little better.
But I question if there's anybody out here who gets the original amount of memory back after closing some apps..?
When I start a lot of apps and close them again, the used mem percentage is always higher than before (I think WM doesn't unload some libraries 'til your memory gets full, because it doesn't hurt to keep them loaded and saves processor cycles)
I've found that as well. If I use enough apps, I have to turn my phone off and back on - eventually It gets over 80% (sometimes It's gone up to 90% with no apps running!)
I have the same problem. The memory kept going up in WM6.1. Any solution to this?
When I first got my TP2 the battery life was great. Then I started adding tons of applications and tweaks and then suddenly one day the battery started to go crazy, it would drain in under 4 hours, with absolutely nothing running.
I started trying to track down the culprit. One thing I noticed right away is that my data connection would come on randomly. I'd shut it down, then a little while later is was on again. I turned off all the automatic updates I could think if (email, weather, stock, Windows update). With data, BT, wifi all turned off, screen off, nothing running, the battery would get hot and every minute would lose a few more percent. The phone was at this point basically useless. Because task manager showed nothing running I figured the battery had gone bad, or horrors, some fault maybe in the TP2. I took it to TMobile and got a replacement.
On my new phone, battery life seemed OK again. So, I did my Resco restore but it didn't work because I had password protection on the phone when I did the backup (not the TMobile password, but the one before that you get during boot up), so on restore it wouldn't let me into the phone saying the password was invalid (apparently something I should have known. grrr, bad Resco!).
So, I manually reinstalled everything again, not thinking to do it one piece at a time because I thought my battery troubles were over. I was wrong. Once it was all loaded up again, the exact same battery sucking began, and the data connection coming on again.
One thing I had noticed is that if I turned off TF3D I could see the icon for ESET virus protection running (it doesn't show in task manager). I knew I'd installed it, but because the TouchFlo screen hid the icon I'd forgotten about it. So, I went to that and clicked 'update' wondering if it was automatically checking for updates and so accessing the internet. But 'update' just gave an error message. So I figured the anti-virus wasn't going to be much use to me until updates were working, so uninstalled the application. BAM! (c) Emeril, battery problems ended!
I did a little googling and saw a couple of other references to ESET and battery drain on other phones, so I think that's been the problem. I don't know if the problem was the software itself draining the battery in its normal state, or if it was maybe constantly trying to make an internet connection to check for updates (but because that feature wasn't working it just kept trying).
I'd like to point out that I am in no way maligning ESET, it's totally my fault: 1) they do not yet claim compatibility for the TP2 ( http://www.eset.com/products/mobileantivirus.php ), and 2) I picked up the .cab from a link from one of the phone forums (not sure where or how any more, I have loaded up so much stuff), not from the ESET web site, so I could well have an older or bad version. I thought the software was freeware, but looking on the site I see it's just a free 30 day trial, so it's quite possible I had a cracked version. Their official version may well work with no problems.
But I did want to post this warning in case anyone else runs into battery drain issues.
Hi Iam an official reseller for the Eset antivirus. Just installed a version on my phone, will report back if drains my battery. How quick did it drain. If any probs i will report back to eset, to get sorted. Could just be the patched version. Funny enough the very firts pc version i got was a pirated version. Liked it so much much i thought sod it and paid for it.
Let me know if you wish to purchase it I can do a bit of a forum discount for you. same goes for pc version.
Hi, thanks for helping to try to get this resolved. The software ran very fast and I think could become a valuable addition once the WM6 viruses become more prominent.
The drain was *rapid* I'd say from 100 to 0 in about 3 hours, so if you do have the same problem, you should know right away. Also, the battery got warm to extremely warm, I might even say hot to the point that it was getting uncomfortable to hold. That certainly leads me to believe there were possibly two problems. One being that the software was for some reason maybe running aggressively in the background. The other that it appears to have been trying to connect to the internet every so often. I'm not sure exactly how often, it seemed somewhat random, but I'd say at least every 15 minutes (I would keep turning off the data connection whenever I saw it running). So I don't know if these are one and the same problem (that the software was trying to update and that was the code that was going out of control). Now that I have the phone working well again, I can have the data on constantly without anywhere near the drain I was experiencing, so the data alone was probably only a minor part of the issue.
When I tried to 'update' I got an error (I can't remember what it said). Is this still the case with the current version? If not then I can assume I have an old version and maybe the battery issue is gone now.
If you like I'd be willing to dl the 30 day trial and see what the latest version does.
Several hours later no battery drain. The software should only update itself 1 a week by default and at most every 3 days if set. Download the trial give a whirl. PM me if you want to buy and I can get a cuople of quid off, same goes for pc based one. This is extended to anyone else aslo.
Don't use any antivirus program on your phone. I've tried several antivirus trials on several htc phones (s620, s710, touch pro) and they all showed extreme battery drain. Since then I've stood clear of any antivirus program on my phone.
Well nearly 24hrs later and no significant bettery drain. I even ran a couple of scans. There is no reason why an antivirus should drain a battery, otherwise no one would have them on laprops either. It was probably down to the pirated version you had.
Let me know if you have any probs.
I never used a pirated one, I only used trials (that's why I tried so many ).
Maybe it's a different story these days, might have to try one again some time...
It went from extremely rarely doing it to three or four times just the other night in the span of a few hours. I can't reproduce it on command but it happens when I lock the screen and put it in my pocket. Then sometimes when I take it out it is entirely non-responsive, even the power button doesn't work. I have to remove and reinsert the battery.
It could be ADW Launcher or WidgetLocker since those are the only two programs always running, but I was hoping someone else experiences a similar issue. It hasn't happened when I normally lock it yet though, so it could also be the proximity sensor maybe?
Having the same issue (on Bell as well), but not running either of those two apps. Was almost to the point of returning the phone and then installed JM7 and it's been better, although not perfect. Last night it locked up with NoLED displaying an icon, so I've deleted that app to see if that's the issue. It hasn't locked up today, but it did reboot a few hours ago seemingly at random. :shrug:
Your internal sd card might be failing like all the other i9000m phones I see on this forum bricking themselves .
clubtech said:
Your internal sd card might be failing like all the other i9000m phones I see on this forum bricking themselves .
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Oh, that doesn't sound pleasant at all...
I'm outside of Bell's 30 day exchange period plus I've talked for over 30 minutes, so I'll have to go through Samsung if it completely breaks. On the plus side, a phone from them should be three button recoverable.
Although I can't be without a phone for weeks, I hope it's not the SD card.
Mine Lags like crazy once every few days till the point I need to restart it. Any idea why this is do?
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Hold your horses people....
before you jump about the lag, and or one click lag fix and such
first you have to investigate what is running on your phone.
just over the weekend (since XDA was down) i stalled over 400 Apps
my phone slowed down to snail speed, then i ran my Startup Manager software (many to choose from)
I suggest Startup Cleaner 2.0 then uncheck everything, leave only the apps that you want to run during start up
reboot your phone and presto, fast as new!
if you can find version 2.1 of startup manager that one is even better
keep note, start up manager apps are not the same as task killer apps
it only run once during start up, and it helps you easily select what should and should not run during start up, so it doesn't stay in memory after it runs
on the same topic
you should also configure your Task Killer apps to kill everything, and add only the wants you want to be running to the ignore list.
that will keep the phone working smoothly even without the "one click lag fix"
i'm still running stock on my JH2 i9000m
AllGamer said:
Hold your horses people....
before you jump about the lag, and or one click lag fix and such
first you have to investigate what is running on your phone.
just over the weekend (since XDA was down) i stalled over 400 Apps
my phone slowed down to snail speed, then i ran my Startup Manager software (many to choose from)
I suggest Startup Cleaner 2.0 then uncheck everything, leave only the apps that you want to run during start up
reboot your phone and presto, fast as new!
if you can find version 2.1 of startup manager that one is even better
keep note, start up manager apps are not the same as task killer apps
it only run once during start up, and it helps you easily select what should and should not run during start up, so it doesn't stay in memory after it runs
on the same topic
you should also configure your Task Killer apps to kill everything, and add only the wants you want to be running to the ignore list.
that will keep the phone working smoothly even without the "one click lag fix"
i'm still running stock on my JH2 i9000m
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All gamer has a good sugestion here BUT we are going to get people flaming the fact that Android shouldnt need task managers.....
Ho hum..
TBH in my experience, I have found (after a couple of hard resets) that there appears to be a size limit for installed apps. Once I get over this size limit, I get LAGTASTIC, phone slows to a snails pace, then I remove a few of the apps and I am back at light speed again....
I cant say what the limit is, but I know when I have hit it - I would then uninstall a lame app or two and get back running.
Yes a lot of people "claims" that, but yet you do a search in Android Market, you see LOTS of Task Manager / Killer apps for every phone.
they were not designed for Galaxy S, they were designed long ago for all the other phones that had and still have the same problems of memory management causing lags
Android is not robust enough to survive without one
heck not even Windows 7 or Windows Mobiles phone
I just read that possibly the phone freezes while trying to find a signal. As this problem has only recently started, and I just recently moved into university, and many buildings receive little to no wireless signal, I think it's more than a coincidence. I'll try going to plane mode before entering lecture halls and basements.
Frostshock said:
I just read that possibly the phone freezes while trying to find a signal. As this problem has only recently started, and I just recently moved into university, and many buildings receive little to no wireless signal, I think it's more than a coincidence. I'll try going to plane mode before entering lecture halls and basements.
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i don't think that is the case with the Galaxy S
however back then my Treo 650 did suffer from that.
if you believe that is the problem then try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7999389&postcount=28
more cool apps here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7999389
Sometimes my phone will get very unresponsive such that any action takes many seconds to show up, and everything is very choppy. Often I see this when I wake up in the morning, but it happens often enough in general. It's so bad that I can't shut it down normally because it would take over 10 min (I've actually never waited to see exactly how long it would take). Thankfully I just found out about the three finger reset (volume up, camera, power), so I shouldn't have to pull the battery anymore, but it's still a problem.
I don't remember this happening before using custom roms. It happens with both DK28 roms I've tried - Bonsai and Viper. I believe it also occurred on the 2.1 Epic Experience, although I'm not sure. I guess I should try flashing to DK28 stock to see if that works, but it's a pain to set up everything each time. I figured I'd ask here to see if anyone else has had this problem and found a way to fix it. Also, I have a feeling this could be related to WiFi being turned on, but can't confirm yet.
My phone was stuttering yesterday.
But that was only after installing smartbench and using theonscreen keyboard.
However, since I've upgraded to dk28, the phone does take (relatively) forever to shutdown.
It'll go black but the bottom lights would still be on and then like a minute or two later it vibrates and actually cuts off
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When my phone does this, it reminds me that I like to have SeePU installed. It's pretty useful in pointing out the apps that are hogging CPU and most likely slowing down your phone.
For me it's often Touchdown, and I kill it and things are back to normal.
I have found a few things that are useful. When I need to reboot my phone I use quick boot from the market. Works every time. In between I use fast reboot also from the market. Try them and see how they work.
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Thanks for the app suggestions. I like the taskbar icons for SeePU. It's always been useful on my Mac (stats from iStat). Quick Boot makes things easier as well.
Next time my phone hangs, I'll see if some process is taking 100% CPU.
The phone hung again, and it seemed like something was taking 100% CPU, if the taskbar SeePU icon is to be trusted. I wasn't able to figure out what the culprit was though, because the phone pretty much stopped responding. Otherwise I would have loaded Android System Info to check.
can the epic 4g run this lag fix? if not, do we have any other ways to fix the lag?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=784691
edit: nvm
So I was able to view Android System Info while my phone was hanging, but it did now show any processes taking 100% CPU, although the total CPU usage was 100%. My guess then is that the Android 2.2 OS is buggy.
However, I did find people who said leaving USB debugging on would fix it, so I'm going to try that.
For reference:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=826507
http://androidforums.com/desire-hd-support-troubleshooting/244553-100-cpu.html#post2140890
My phone hasn't hung for a while, so apparently enabling USB debugging prevents the hang / lag / crash / 100% CPU. Weird but I'm glad it works
Now the only problem is kswapd0 eating CPU sometimes. I think this is caused by lack of memory, but I'm not sure what I can do about it.