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Dear all,
Do you know the overspeed for the O2 mini software Pocket Hack Master, attachment is full version share for all O2 mini fans

Good? Are U sure U can o/c yr jam stablely? So far, I don't see any o/c software run stable on jam.

I tried running my mini at 520mhz using pocket hack master. It ran quite fast indeed, then it did a hard reset after about half an hour.
I didn't bother to re-install hackmaster after that, but before I tried overclocking it, I was experimenting with underclocking it to see if the battery life would be extended. I didn't run my experiment long enough to see tangible results though. Anybody else tried underclocking their minis/jams?

xcpuscalar
i always use xcpuscalar, to underclock and sometimes overclock my jam.
it works fine, and i think its easier than phm.

I did use PHM and uninstalled it. The thing is, that, for most cases, overclocking isn't neccessary at all. It only brang me some faster game speeds for some (!) games. But that's not worth it. The increase in speed is only slight. The disadvantage is the battery drain with PHM, even when underclocking resp. using the scaling possibiltity. Both drains the battery a lot more than without PHM running at 416MHZ. The problem is the voltage regulation which isn't working with PHM but which the CPU is regulating itself very well, when left alone.
So, if you aren't 100% sure that you need (a bit) more speed, forget about it.

overclocking now available!!

PocketHack Master V4 is now out with Tytn support. Be warned that at it's highest setting of 440mhz i had to HARD reset my device.... Must start at a lower speed next time and work my way up!
I'm still in the middle of restoring!!

johnk1973 said:
PocketHack Master V4 is now out with Tytn support. Be warned that at it's highest setting of 440mhz i had to HARD reset my device.... Must start at a lower speed next time and work my way up!
I'm still in the middle of restoring!!
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have you found a need to overclock the device then...., might works fine for what I use it for

Thanks for pointing this out... I updated the FAQs on the wiki.
It automatically scales the processor voltage onSamsung S3C2440 processors

so does this clock it over 440mhz, because an extra 40mhz doesnt really sound worthy of paying for software, especially when the TyTN is pretty snappy?

So... do you need to stick it in a fridge or anything afterwards?

I think the main idea of using the program is to allow a "super battery saving" mode, by underclocking the device it will use less power....obviously impacting performance-wise but still!

The main reason I wanted PHM was to help render web pages faster. My tytn downloads quicker than the works PC on normal broadband but the pages take longer to 'finalize' the page (i.e.. you can scroll down a page and it's still inserting images). This is a CPU speed issue.
I have finally got to play with PHM and it still needs more work! Just doing a test at tytn's default 400Mhz crashes my phone, never mind higher! I never got much higher than 300Mhz, how strange!!

Hack Master V4 not ready for primetime!
As others have noted, don't waste your time on Hack Master v4. I played with it, only to find it causes crashes, no matter what you do. Also, I found that it caused an incomplete Hard Reset. So, I had to do the manual hard reset twice, to get TYTN working again correctly.
Also, the Wiki should be updated to show there are still problems for anyone wanting to OC the TYTN.

I stupidly tried PHM too, and have just suffered a partial hard reset. Here goes the long and frustrating reinstall...

grayhaze said:
I stupidly tried PHM too, and have just suffered a partial hard reset. Here goes the long and frustrating reinstall...
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aren't we allowed to take these people to court? False advertising and damaging my equipment? They must have had enough emails by now and yet the same program is still there advertising the same things, very poor...

We should probably change the title of this thread to say "OVERCLOCKING: DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT..." :idea:

johnk1973 said:
aren't we allowed to take these people to court? False advertising and damaging my equipment? They must have had enough emails by now and yet the same program is still there advertising the same things, very poor...
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They can get away with it through the fact that they tell you to backup your device before you use the program. Coming from an XDAII where PHM worked perfectly though, I stupidly assumed that the quality of the product would be at least the same or even better after numerous updates.
I'm pretty much set up again now, but I'll certainly be looking at purchasing a backup solution before I put my trust in something like that again.

Don't think about it, even with a backup... While trying to overclock my TyTN smoothly, it's now on the way to service (no more booting at all...)
Gx

Oops ... you should have read this thread before even trying overcloking ...
sorry for ya mate !!!

I find my Jasjam (Hermes) runs very fast and I don't see the point in over clocking it when it runs fast enough normally.

Have XCPU Scaler, in autoscale mode working up to 500mhz, on a cingular 8525 (HERM100), no resets, no problem.
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Also scaled down to 200mhz on the low side for super battery saver.
?Glitch

?Glitch that is amazing not just the speed but the fact that their is no problems!!!!!!!!

?Glitch said:
Have XCPU Scaler, in autoscale mode working up to 500mhz, on a cingular 8525 (HERM100), no resets, no problem.
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Also scaled down to 200mhz on the low side for super battery saver.
?Glitch
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you'll be needing one of those new spangly batteries with extra life to cope with a processor increase like that.

@?Glitch: Can you post some screenshots?
That's awesome .. Has anyone else tried this program out? How's it working for you?

I'm using the XCPUScalar with its CPU load based setting.
Normally I set the speed to only 200MHz while on heavy load it speed-up back to 400MHz and 500NHz on very high load.
On day-to-day use it looks like extending the battery life (working on lower clock rate) whiles much quicker route calculation when using the navigation program.
Currently I faced now problem.

Higest Overclocking?

i know this might b a stupid question and a question that has been asked alot... i did a search and couldnt find an answer but my question is what is the highest you overclocked your phone and it was stable? im currently running at 240 stable and im sure this will answer alot of questions for anybody who is new to overclocking thx in advanced

dont really think that that many people push it to the max
as both ram speed and sd ram interface being a much bigger bottleneck then cpu
so overclock is more likely to cost precious batt time then anything usefull

I've noticed that my MDA becomes unstable after 230 or so. I'm using an old 1.08 IPL/SPL rom if that has anything to do with it. I have Battery Status so I just use the CPU scaler and it works pretty well.

I'm running @ 232 and have been for months with no noticeable additional battery drain. Running a more-or-less stock WM5.

When i have some high quality video files or a bit more complex software that wizard can't handle at standard frequency (like quake), i run it @260MHZ without any problems. I went up to 273MHz a few times, and it worked fine with TCPMP, but i never used this setting for more than about 20 minutes. When i used different programs (not only the video player) and switched between them (read: normal pda use) i had a few system frezes @273MHz, so i don't consider it a safe setting

I use Battery Status to scale between 147 to 247 with boost set to 260. I have never once in 4 months had it lock up. I use a very stable rom though so that has to help. When using other less stable roms I was getting lock ups often.
Jeff

Ipaq 614c cpu speed

Have you ever wondered if your ipaq really works at 520mhz? Well it doesnt.
It uses a "battery saving" technology so the cpu can run at lower speeds when not used. But tha thing is that the top speed allowed is 416 mhz. That's it.
The cure is a program called xCPU scalar, many of you may know it. So if you want to play some demanding games or watch unconverted Divx movie you have to use it and if you are lucky you may get even 624mhz. I ran a benchmark from skTOOLS and first it gave me very poor results. When i clocked the CPU the test showed that at some points it;s even faster than omnia and almost as fast as dell axim. Speed comes with a price though - tha battery wont ;ast even a day. So it's recommendet either to let the cpu manage it's own speed or use the stepping of xCPU scalar. If you want to save your battery you may set top speed 312 mhz. I tried to play a mp4 movie converted for qvga at 100mhz and it plays quite well.

axlastro said:
Have you ever wondered if your ipaq really works at 520mhz? Well it doesnt.
It uses a "battery saving" technology so the cpu can run at lower speeds when not used. But tha thing is that the top speed allowed is 416 mhz. That's it.
The cure is a program called xCPU scalar, many of you may know it. So if you want to play some demanding games or watch unconverted Divx movie you have to use it and if you are lucky you may get even 624mhz. I ran a benchmark from skTOOLS and first it gave me very poor results. When i clocked the CPU the test showed that at some points it;s even faster than omnia and almost as fast as dell axim. Speed comes with a price though - tha battery wont ;ast even a day. So it's recommendet either to let the cpu manage it's own speed or use the stepping of xCPU scalar. If you want to save your battery you may set top speed 312 mhz. I tried to play a mp4 movie converted for qvga at 100mhz and it plays quite well.
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i lowered the speed to 104mhz. one day usage, still 76% power. usable for normal calling and messaging.

Yep. That's it. You can try playing a 320X240 Mpeg4 movie or playing Asphalt4HD - still quite acceptable framerate.

i bring it to that low i.e. 104 mhz, it freezes. The only reliable one is 312 mhz
I use 612c, on winmo 6.1

Always amazes me how much everybody else gets from their batteries with this device.
I routinely get through three batteries in 24 hours and sometimes four (i.e. one battery every 6-8 hours). Admittedly I am quite a heavy user of the device in general but this battery consumption is with minimal use of wi-fi or GPS.
When I get home every evening I have a handful of flat batteries and an array of chargers to plug them into, ready for the next morning.
I have not had a touch-screen phone that gave me a full day's usage, ever.

I really know what you mean!
I'm a light user, with processor UNDERclocked, screen turned to dark (level 1) and i still get 5-8 hours of use. The pocket pc becomes hot like lava when used for listening to music and doing other stuff. It's crazy. Getting a replacement soon.

912c is not compatible with xcpuscalar or PHM. it was good at the first run. but after soft resetting the device, it becoming not stable. so i have to uninstall or even hard reset the device.
i haven't find any good (or stable) solution to over/underclocking for iPAQ 912c. is someone can help me out. i really need the capability to change the clock speed.

How to change the clock speed of the iPAQ 6xx?
Thank You..

T-Pad said:
How to change the clock speed of the iPAQ 6xx?
Thank You..
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pocket hack master or xcpuscaler, however beware it may cause the device unstable

We can now overclock our phones!

Couldn't really see any discussion on this yet, and personally it's in a location on the forum that I rarely visit but I've found an overclock tool that is slowly becoming very good indeed for our processors. Link to thread is here. I'm soo far up from 528Mhz to 748Mhz (been stable for the past 6 hours no problem). Just make sure to follow the thread (instructions are linked to ensure overclock remains applied through scripts and 3rd party apps). Should take no longer than 30mins for a well versed user to set up. Please don't try this if you haven't got a clue what you are doing as there is soo much scope for error and dead phones! You may also need to customise any scripts to your specific phone/software build. CDMA phones as usual are different from what I've heard. But anyway good luck, I'm gonna keep trying to push the Mhz up (aiming for 850Mhz ).

Not sure its a good idea to go past 700 mhz,our phones run hot as it is under capacity,as with gaming rigs heat is your Enemy,the cooler you keep it the faster.

It's actually remained pretty cool, and when it's in my pocket it's only running at stock clocks anyway. Only when I'm using it does it get to the full 748Mhz. Running wifi router and charger and temps are not noticeably hotter than usual...

um... ive been clocked up to 787 highly stable for the last like 2 weeks. No heat problems, no battery problems, just insane speed.
recommendations: Download v1, not v2. ESP if you dont know what you're doing. Then download the zip im attaching, there's 2 mortscripts in there and a registry addition, THESE MUST BE IN THE STORAGE CARD ROOT. use the regisitry addition FIRST (just associate w/e regedit software you use, then run the .reg file in total commander), then go back to total commander, edit the .mscr "Toggle_boost" and adjust the value boost = "x" to whatever value you want the phone to OC at, eg boost = 41 is 787mhz which is stable for me, test yours out.
THEN, open and install rhodiumkbdcontrol (attached), reboot, go to settings>system>keyboard config> add key
1st pick which key you want to be the OC boost swtich, I have it mapped to my PTT button. click the plus sign, drop down menu, run program, then highlight "run program" in the list then click "..." then type in
Program: \windows\mortscript.exe
Arguments: "\storage card\toggle_boost.mscr"
This time you wanna use the power key.
same general instructions except
Program: \windows\mortscript.exe
Arguments: "\storage card\boost_off.mscr"
then plus sign again, drop down menu, default key action, and click extended emulation. THEN hit update config. should work like a charm, also autoover clocks to 610, the boost button with send you up the w/e the boost = "x" is set to, and then back again, most find 710mhz to be the stable point, and feel free to ask questions

sorry, heres the zips

wouldnt overclocking also gives you a higher chance of frying your CPU chip? cuz ive seen it happened in PCs i just idk about PPCs

I agree that there are virtually no ill effects to this. When unlocked, I have my phone running at 787 mhz. While it is locked or sleeping it throttles down to 604 and eventually 528 mhz. I have noticed no extra heat nor extra drain on the battery. Just blazing fast speed! Sense 2.5 is virually not laggy at all! CHT 1.8.5 is so smooth and quick even with the aminations enabled!
If anyone is interested in the automated clocking process, I can help by giving my set-up that is working flawlessly on the ROM in my signature!

miked79928 said:
I agree that there are virtually no ill effects to this. When unlocked, I have my phone running at 787 mhz. While it is locked or sleeping it throttles down to 604 and eventually 528 mhz. I have noticed no extra heat nor extra drain on the battery. Just blazing fast speed! Sense 2.5 is virually not laggy at all! CHT 1.8.5 is so smooth and quick even with the aminations enabled!
If anyone is interested in the automated clocking process, I can help by giving my set-up that is working flawlessly on the ROM in my signature!
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Yeah could you hook that up? I think posting it here would be best but pm'ing works just as well
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I just read threw the above links and guides and was wondering if there is a more automated way of setting this up rather than having to link it to a button press. I'm guessing this has not been figured out yet (or the guides would have mention of it ). Just curious.

dantegl36 said:
Yeah could you hook that up? I think posting it here would be best but pm'ing works just as well
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Here is the best way I have found to do it. I take absolutely no credit for this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7354283&postcount=627

Check it!
Outlaw78a said:
Not sure its a good idea to go past 700 mhz,our phones run hot as it is under capacity,as with gaming rigs heat is your Enemy,the cooler you keep it the faster.
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I have used this, NRG also does. I have NEVER had any problems and mine is as high as 787 as long as I'm running it which is constantly.
XITruthiX said:
um... ive been clocked up to 787 highly stable for the last like 2 weeks. No heat problems, no battery problems, just insane speed.
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100% agreed. Been running at the highest speeds with NO problems, no batt drain, no heat probs, nothing.
XERO_Racer said:
wouldnt overclocking also gives you a higher chance of frying your CPU chip? cuz ive seen it happened in PCs i just idk about PPCs
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Not unless you are having excessive heat problems. Since there are basically no people reporting these problems, I wouldn't worry.
miked79928 said:
I agree that there are virtually no ill effects to this. When unlocked, I have my phone running at 787 mhz. While it is locked or sleeping it throttles down to 604 and eventually 528 mhz. I have noticed no extra heat nor extra drain on the battery. Just blazing fast speed! Sense 2.5 is virually not laggy at all! CHT 1.8.5 is so smooth and quick even with the aminations enabled!
If anyone is interested in the automated clocking process, I can help by giving my set-up that is working flawlessly on the ROM in my signature!
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Once again as stated earlier, 100% agreed.

Do I have to keep plugged in?

miked79928 said:
Here is the best way I have found to do it. I take absolutely no credit for this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7354283&postcount=627
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I thank you for this, but I'm not sure how to implement it. I have installed Mortscript, I've copied the code into a file I called overclock.mscr and modified the code reflect the reg values on my Tilt 2. and I've placed the script on the root on my SD card. I've installed MSM7kCpuSpeed on to my SD card. How do I make the script run automatically?
Thank you!

I take no responsibility for w/e happens to your phone with this advice.
Try putting a pointer in your start up to the over clocking script. Its highly unstable and could brick your phone or require a hard reset... thats why I do it with a toggle switch, i dont mind manually applying the OC with a hard key knowing its safe, esp because the situations where I actually NEED 787mhz are less common than needing to just wake the phone to answer a call or make a txt message.

I just want to say that I have been running android on my tilt 2 overclocked at around 750 for a few months now with various builds and i know a lot of other users who have as well with no problems, i am going to try this out, thats what i pay for insurance for hehe
..and after reading more i may have spoken too soon because i missed the posts where i saw that you can brick your phone with OC in WinMo easily enough if you are not careful, so tread with caution

dirtypiratehooker said:
I just want to say that I have been running android on my tilt 2 overclocked at around 750 for a few months now with various builds and i know a lot of other users who have as well with no problems, i am going to try this out, thats what i pay for insurance for hehe
..and after reading more i may have spoken too soon because i missed the posts where i saw that you can brick your phone with OC in WinMo easily enough if you are not careful, so tread with caution
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Just a note, I'm not sure the insurance would cover burning a custom ROM into the phone, or overclocking the CPU. And if the chip is fried you can't burn the stock ROM back in. But then, they probably couldn't figure out it was updated without in stalling a new CPU. Umm, it would probably work.

Would a .cab for this ever be conceivable?

At this point, we have finally got a script that will work for most Rhodiums, Topaz (Diamond 2), and a few guys with other phones seem to be having good luck.
The device has to have Mortscript installed, and nettrip's MSM7 v2.
It is a single script solution that requires no pre checks in the registry, no key/button assignment, and you can change the speed settings from the script instead of the registry.
It throttles the OC up and down for calls, lock, and sleep, to avoid freezing on wake up and in a call. Some problems that still need to worked out by nettrip in the script. I don't envy him the work as the script(s) were bad enough. Four of us have hit that original script (by jpc) from about page 13.
You copy the script to the SD or the device root, create a shortcut to the file, copy the shortcut to Windows\Startup directory, reset/reboot the device and you are off.
You can use the MSM7 app to read the OC, but you should make sure to exit the app before sleep, lock, or power off, as it will error on reboot if left open.
To be honest, you never have to open the MSM7 app, as the script controls it in the background.
I believe the script is set for a low over clock. 691. My experience has been a 710 average, but a lot get a stable OC at 750+. I am running 748 and I think I will stop there. A 200MHz overclock will just have to do.The phone does not get hot, though with intense use, it does get warmer. Never warmer than when the battery is charging, tho.
I am running the nrg Sense Reference ROM, 23xxx based on Sense 2.5. I added the CHT 1.8x and the editor to save a few MHz, no biggy.
The overclock allows the Sense to work MUCH smoother, actually noticeable as even the weather animation is smooth.
And all the vid players seem to work better.
I have noticed NO extra battery drain than usual.
The script is only a stop gap measure until nettrip finishes his app, but it does work well with little effort. WAAAAY better now than even last week.
However, use the script at your own risk, as you can get too Medieval on the OC. Some guys are running 800+, more nerve than I have.
Anyway, if interested in the script or want to read some more about the app, you can start here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=725290&page=89
post #882 has the script.
Plenty of instructions on how to use (and make changes to the settings) in the last 30-40 pages.

Sorry if this is already explained, but can someone tell me in simple details how to keep my overclock at 729mhz even after screen lock or sleep mode? I've tried to follow previous posts but it keeps reverting back to 528mhz after locking and sleep.

Ok so this seems legitamite,everyones checking in with no problems.
other than the increased risk factor that always accompanys speed,
it seems our ppc's cpu was underclocked beforehand ?
i will try this and see if i get a gpu boost as well.
but ivr already experienced my phone overheating to the point
of shutting itself down,and the god-damned orange light is permenantly on...