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Has anyone yet found out good values for the overclocking? Can the overclocking damage the Prophet (O2 XDA Neo)?
Does the overclocked CPU drain more battery power?
that tool is great to overclock the profhet to 240-250 Mhz
you must test it what for you the best config !
I've been overclocking my JAMin since day 1 (about 6 weeks now) and with great results. I have set it up to overclock @240MHz all the time (do a search for the instructions) and it's been stable, quick and with no major impact on battery life.
Since the last ROM update - the JAMin has been stable with no spontaneous soft resets. Just great.
Nir
is the rom-update available for the o2 xda neo, too?
noch nicht wenn es rauskommt findest du es hier...
http://www.o2-online.de/o2/kunden/technikundeinst/exclusive/xda/xdaneo/index.html
The only upgrade you'll get is Imates, qtek s200 or dopods. O2 sucks as far as upgrade concern. Especially in germany. This so called tech support guys still think that you’ll kill the device if you upgrade it! At least this is what they been telling me! The bottom line, get an update, get “fixed” RUU, search forum, and run an update. You’ll loose german rom though unless you back it up using aWizard.
My S200 overclocked about 5 weeks by now. 276 MHz cause spontaneous softreset once or twice per day. 264MHz works fine; it is my current overclock speed. I don’t think it may cause battery drain, but something drains battery randomly. My suspect is Communication Manager.
I'm using smartskey to overclock. When set to 240 it crashes. Anyone knows why? I'm also using O2 and i've made some standard registry hacks (cache size).
264MHz works for me too.
What programs do we use for benchmarking to see what outperforms what
activesync dropout
I can overclock up to 240 but when I connect to active sync 4.1 it keep dropping its conection
Camera problem when overclocking...
When overclocking above 234 Hz w/ BatteryStatus or 216 with Omapclock,... I get strange dots and color in camera...
Anyone having same problem?
Well in the topic about upgrading to one of the latest roms I saw a lot of people having problems with the camera and overclocking. So it seems to be happening when overclocking for sure. Not much you can do about it except clocking it back when you want to use the camera
I have the same Problem. Thats why I use applicationbased clocking with Batteriestatus, setting Kamera and Coolcamera to 195 mHz.
cu seneca
Yeah, same here btw totally forgot to mention that.
I use batterystatus with the CPUscaler option on. At the moment I have it automaticly scaled up to 221mhz when needed. But indeed all the camera apps have it set back at 195.
Not quite sure to what speed I can go safely. Mostly need somewhat more speed with the navigation on in the car. Although that uses the device 100% for sometimes hours. So since most of the people go up to 240 I just though 220 might be a safe number No problems so far.
Anyway, I'm interested in making it a little bit faster. But an overclock of over 20% just seems too much (or too good to be true )...
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I have the same Problem. Thats why I use applicationbased clocking with Batteriestatus, setting Kamera and Coolcamera to 195 mHz.
cu seneca
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Uppss, ... sounds great. But I can not find any applicationbased clocking in my BatteryStatus plug-in.... What else do I need?
Thanks in advance.
Jarel
I have a O2 Neo. and currently is overclocked at 260 mhz. no problem so far.
Uppss, ... sounds great. But I can not find any applicationbased clocking in my BatteryStatus plug-in.... What else do I need?
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You need the Version BatteryStatusPlus.Beta1.0.03.zip of BatterieStatusPlugin at the first Message of this Thread
cu seneca
Thanks Seneca...
I had the non.beta version installed, thus not having those options... Is this Beta version stable/well-proven? Why don't they ibnclude this functionaility in the "definitive" non-beta version?
Thanks again, great forum and great support!
Jarel
After finishing the Beta Phase, it will be included in an extendet Version.
On my NEO/Qtek it is very stable. But read the Thread. There are the answers.
cu seneca
With respect to overclocking it has been stable for a long time. With regards to other features they appear to be stable, hence the change to beta status.
The only question is how high you can overclock your specific device. You will need to use trial and error. Note that as the device get hot, the max overclock speed drops. It's a physics thing.
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Thanks Seneca...
I had the non.beta version installed, thus not having those options... Is this Beta version stable/well-proven? Why don't they ibnclude this functionaility in the "definitive" non-beta version?
Jarel
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Has anyone noticed any long term disadvantages to overclocking the Wizard? Does the battery life permanently decrease? What speeds are you running yours at, and how long have you been doing it? Have you noticed anything at all which indicates it's not good for the hardware?
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i believe that it's safe to overclock the mda...just set it at an acceptable rate (264mhz for me) and make sure not to run the battery all the way down...if you overclock the settings too high the device will freeze and reset (this is a fail safe procedure it goes through), so there is no need to worry...also don't overclock the settings too low as the phone becomes disfunctional when too low (about less than 132mhz for me)...the screen flickers because it's not being refreshed quick enough (my guess)...hope this helps...
I would set it to 240. I have done before, i'm just wondering if it's a bad idea leaving it permanently set to that level?
Cheers
yea you should be fine at that speed, but if you want you can overclock it higher if it will let you...just make sure that the phone is stable when using it...like i said in my earlier post my device is oc at 264mhz
Cool, thanks for your replies. How long have you had yours overclocked for? Do you use Smartskey?
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My self i ownly use it when need the extra speed, only with some games and wmv video files. I think it definitely lowers battery life and i would have worries about overclocking all the time and the long term effect it has on the processor (not so important if you only keep your wizard for a year and then change with a new contract - what i do new device once a year!) I found good speed gains with the registry wizard - http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=39725
have not found overclocking produces that much extra speed.
My self i only use it when need the extra speed, only with some games and wmv video files. I think it definitely lowers battery life and i would have worries about overclocking all the time and the long term effect it has on the processor (not so important if you only keep your wizard for a year and then change with a new contract - what i do new device once a year!) I found good speed gains with the registry wizard - http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=39725
have not found overclocking produces that much extra speed.
Mine is also set at 264 24/7. Battery still lasts me all day. Been doing it since the oc program was found which I guess has been a couple of months.
Don't forget, you're wizard is only overclocked when it is active (i.e. not in standby mode). When your wizard goes into standby, it automatically goes back to the default 180mhz. Only when you bring it out of standby does it overclock again (assuming you're running it with smartskey with the option of overclocking on wakeup)
i'm using smartkey to constantly run at 264mhz...i have been doing this for a month now...like i said there is not really any problems with the batt unless you run it down totally...there was a post about this in the overclocking thread...the process is set low so that the phone will have a longer batt life...this was also stated in the overclocking thread...theoretically there is more wear if you overclock it since you are making the processor work harder, so use it at your own risk! if you want to be on the safe side then use smartkey and the overclocking prog in the same directory...then use total commander's note pad (while the ini file is highlighted) and change the value lower when you don't want it to constantly run at 264mhz or whatever speed you want to overclock or underclock at...just use it when needed, but i overclock mine constant 264mhz with great results combined with tweaks2k2, registry wizard, and of course the tmobile custom rom ...internet is a blast...just wish i could get it to run like the IE in a pc
anyways hope this helps out a bit further...
activesync
your activesync will hang allot if you overclock, I have noticed this.
DOnt know why.
For some reason i stumbled onto something, im sure its been mentioned b4 but when running Wisbar advance with a Windows vista skin done by xcillion, i am able to overclock my cingular 8125 to 288mhz at a stable rate with no problems at all, can run warcraft 2 full speed with over 50 units battling it out on screen, almost doubles browsing speed and i can run all the emulators including SNES at full speed with sound. when i dont have wisbar advance running i cant go past 240mhz clocking speed. I wonder has anyone else noticed this or gone higher than 288 without a freeze. Also, my battery life runs steady for a full day of browsing the internet talking on mobile messanger and listening to music at half volume for a full day.
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xSoNiCcRaCkErSx said:
For some reason i stumbled onto something, im sure its been mentioned b4 but when running Wisbar advance with a Windows vista skin done by xcillion, i am able to overclock my cingular 8125 to 288mhz at a stable rate with no problems at all, can run warcraft 2 full speed with over 50 units battling it out on screen, almost doubles browsing speed and i can run all the emulators including SNES at full speed with sound. when i dont have wisbar advance running i cant go past 240mhz clocking speed. I wonder has anyone else noticed this or gone higher than 288 without a freeze. Also, my battery life runs steady for a full day of browsing the internet talking on mobile messanger and listening to music at half volume for a full day.
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hey sonic, where did you get your copy of warcraft 2 for windows mobile ?
I've never heard of warcraft for Windows mobile, how does it run on a 240 MHz overclock?
I got it from the Wargus engine. i can email you the files if need be, i dont want to jeprodize this sites reputation. The game last time i checked was free though...
Actually I'm not sure if it's the overclocking issue or not but ...
For couple of weeks now my Wizard's red led is on all the time, not like it is when your battery is very low but about half of this brightness. I'm not really worried about that, it doesn't change much but it may be connected with overclocking (it was 240 for about a month).
Another thing - once I had sth like 110% speed of every tone played, either a phone call or an incoming message.
It doesn't really matter to me since it's still working fine but it may mean that overclocking isn't that safe as we might think.
TroLoo
How do you all get your Wing's to hit 270 ect? I can't go past 221/228 without having crashing problems. If I go for 240 or higher its White scree/Black screen or squiggles. Do i just have a weak phone or something?
huh. i use 286, its crazy stable enough.
Are you still stock rom? its possible that there are stability problems.
Install touchit 2.0 for wings. Awesomelicious.
Then try again.
It's the same rule that applies to any and all processors, every one of them is different. Some just don't overclock as well. Some overclock to crazy numbers.
Mine will go to 312 with no problem but there seems to be an optimal number for each one. It's a question of trying dif. settings. 260 seems to be about right for mine.
I am running touchit 2.0, and am using battery status for an overclocker. i havent tried over 240 but i know at 240 it just goes haywire. anyone else having mem hog issues with touchit 2.0? i start out with 24-25megs on a fresh boot but within a couple hours 0 apps running i'm down to like 10, before even hitting 24hrs i get down to 2.5megs of free memory and i dont have anything running. anyone else having this problem? or do i have a ghetto ass wing from t-mobile?
i got crash on 280+, but undred that is OK -- (normal herald, no wing)
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I am running touchit 2.0, and am using battery status for an overclocker. i havent tried over 240 but i know at 240 it just goes haywire. anyone else having mem hog issues with touchit 2.0? i start out with 24-25megs on a fresh boot but within a couple hours 0 apps running i'm down to like 10, before even hitting 24hrs i get down to 2.5megs of free memory and i dont have anything running. anyone else having this problem? or do i have a ghetto ass wing from t-mobile?
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I have the same problem. But I guess this is the wrong thread :S
At the risk of sounding really dumb, what does "overclocking" do for my device?
Thanks.
it makes your phone process things faster at the risk of overheating your processor mine is at 286 no problems but if your going to overclock you might as well pagepool it and then it runs pretty good
I use batterystatus on dynamic between 156 and 273.
I've noticed that anything under 156 causes that "buzzing" noise that the wing makes ...
Mine is at a constant 299. 312 Freezes it.
this may be posted in the wrong section but i would like everyone running froyo to test this out
HERE IS THE LINK TO GET THE LATEST SETCPU
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505419
So I have been doing some experiments on ways to save battery life....I think i have made a break through it is not fully tested i would like for some of you to try it out.
with the latest updates to your ROM itself, setcpu, superuser, and the addition of cache cleaner and the incredible AUTOKILLER (a must have) i have been able to run extremely low setcpu sleep profiles without any noticeable loss of performance.
Believe it or not i have my sleep profile down clocked to 19200mhz with out "noticeable" performance loss
i would like for some of you if possible to try these profile out for a while and see how it works out for you
DEFAULT 480min---whatever you want max (mine is 787) ondemand (for performance)
OR DEFAULT 245min---whatever max (for even more battery savings)
SLEEP 192min---480max ondemand (works great even without sleep to wake lag)
it works dont believe me then check out set cpus new feature "time in state"
open setcpu
go over to info
scroll down a little and you will see the times in state your phones cpu runs in the most
you should now see values at the lowest state of 19200
if this works in theory we can benefit from longer battery life
and faster charging
please try these out and report back to the post or PM me...this could be good
Thanks
UPDATE 8/22 EDIT: some users are having success running an even lower default 19min--whatever max (thats even more savings) will be looking into it
try these even lower profiles
DEFAULT 122min--whatever max (screen ON cpu does not drop below 122mhz)
Screen OFF 19min--245max (no lag just ran pandora and cardio trainer at the same time here no lag from sleep to wake either)
or Screen Off 19min--480 max for more performance
REMEMBER not to have conflicting profiles and to have SCREEN OFF at your highest priority
please post here your own findings and results
Thanks again
UPDATE 08/24/2010
after experimenting with other speeds i have finally settled on these speeds for my personal taste on performance and battery savings
MY FINAL SETTINGS...
DEFAULT 19MIN---786 or whatever MAX on demand
SCREEN OFF 19MIN---480 MAX on demand (highest priority) think deeply about why this is the highest
TEMP <40 19MIN---528MAX (screen off overrides this which cools anyway)
BATT <40 19MIN---604MAX
next more into advanced settings....coming soon
UPDATE 08/26/2010
im almost at the holy grail here
try this set up
SCREEN OFF 19--480 (95 priority)
TEMP <40 19--580 (90 priority)
ADVANCED SETTINGS
SAMPLING RATE---100000
UP THRESHOLD---98
ignore nice ---0
power save bias---0
hit apply (if you like it check set at boot)
ALL CPUS ARE NOT CREATED EQUALLY WE ALL KNOW THIS SO DONT EXPECT MY EXACT SETTING TO WORK FOR EVERY SINGLE PHONE
I CAN ONLY OFFER A STARTING POINT BUT ITS UP TO YOU TO TWEAK IT BUT ITS WORK
I HOPE THIS HELPS
things to notice....
in the main screen in setcpu watch the main frequency values bounce up and down...after a few seconds the values seem to stabilize at the lowest frequency of 19
in time of state screen even when screen on most of the time the 19 freq get the most values
i need a few guys to run, test and monitor the values that i just posted ^^^HERE^^^
this may further the battery life once we stabilize the frequency to 19 most of the time while keep the SAME performance which i think i may have did
run some linpacks and quadrants with those setting
i got
5.4 linpack running 787max
431 quad running 787max
then it drops back to 19 and stabilizes
hope this works and please post all your feed back and setting so we can learn this and get it perfect
thanks
I even use 122 and 480 for my screen off profile.. And I don't have any lag at all.
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I even use 122 and 480 for my screen off profile.. And I don't have any lag at all.
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19 is even lower try it
Oh 19200? Wow I wasn't paying attention well enough. I'll try it.
Almost from the beginning of my rooting in May and using SetCPU, I've been using 19.2- 748.8 (on demand) with the screen on (sometimes higher but recently reduced the max to see if it helped with some FC's I was having - still haven't determined if it was the profile or the ROM that fixed my FC's).
I use 19.2-245 for screen off. I'd venture that there's about a one second delay for the caller ID to work once a call rings in, but it's more than bearable and worth it.
I have it go to 19.2-528 when the battery is less than 25%,and 19.2-480 if the temperature is above 49 degrees celcius.
I wonder what it's like when receiving a call. I just set it and I'm not having any lag with just turning it on or anything. I'll test it out with other things. I hope this greatly improves my battery.
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Almost from the beginning of my rooting in May and using SetCPU, I've been using 19.2- 748.8 (on demand) with the screen on (sometimes higher but recently reduced the max to see if it helped with some FC's I was having - still haven't determined if it was the profile or the ROM that fixed my FC's).
I use 19.2-245 for screen off. I'd venture that there's about a one second delay for the caller ID to work once a call rings in, but it's more than bearable and worth it.
I have it go to 19.2-528 when the battery is less than 25%,and 19.2-480 if the temperature is above 49 degrees celcius.
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shame on you for keeping that secret all to yourself
SHAME
By the way why did you say froyo roms specifically? I'm trying this on tainted tenzo and it's working. I'm usually on a frooy ROM though.
Hi Guys,
Can you please tell me how to get setcpu? I can't find it in the market.
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
Search for it on his website, idk what his website is you'll have to search for it. Or download a ROM with it already in it.
im on froyo 30 and was unable to get the 19.2 to show on time in state with screen off profile set to 100 priority at 245/19.2
i was however able to have it start using that frequency by using 710/19.2 as my default setting, then enabling the 245/19.2 profile as screen off.
ive read its not too good to have the cpu jump more than 300mhz per profile though so im not sure how this will work out.
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By the way why did you say froyo roms specifically? I'm trying this on tainted tenzo and it's working. I'm usually on a frooy ROM though.
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hmm last time i was on sense rom sense fell apart if you clocked lower than 245
epically receiving a phone call
but i only test this method on froyo
I've heard that too. Although I don't know what is bad about it.
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Hi Guys,
Can you please tell me how to get setcpu? I can't find it in the market.
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
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HERE
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505419
eklipze said:
im on froyo 30 and was unable to get the 19.2 to show on time in state with screen off profile set to 100 priority at 245/19.2
i was however able to have it start using that frequency by using 710/19.2 as my default setting, then enabling the 245/19.2 profile as screen off.
ive read its not too good to have the cpu jump more than 300mhz per profile though so im not sure how this will work out.
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i heard that too but all froyo dev have a 245 to 710 stock on their roms
thats why i kinda spilt the two profiles and why 245min--- is experimental
leave your screen off for a while and see if the ime of state shows up
also make sure not to have conflicting profiles running in setcpu
Hmm. Well tainted is vanilla but has some sense elements (like sense dialer) So idk. It seems to work. I'll test out calls.
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Hmm. Well tainted is vanilla but has some sense elements (like sense dialer) So idk. It seems to work. I'll test out calls.
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oh ok tainted is not vanilla
tainted IS sense with sense removed with vanilla remaning hence the word tainted
some sense is still there
i think
Yeah it's got sense contacts and stuff but vanilla messaging. But it has the sense dialer so I think it would also have lag with calls if the sense ones were having lag. And I just tested it and it took a lil while for it to recognize whose number it was but it still gave me plenty of time to answer the call. I'll be testing to see how it improves battery. Thanks for the find
Im also testing setcpu Advanced settings batery life (without performance loss)
What settings are those?
Hi I found this problem recently with all newer Builds. If I watch movies or play any game for at least 45 min I think the phone over heats and freezes.
I used to watch a bunch of movie before in older builds without this problem but at the time those build had a bunch of lil problems so that's why I don't go back to those build and the builds are perfect and this is the only problem I get.
I want to know if u dont have this problem what Radio you are using and windows mobile I dont think its a problem with the builds but a combination of maybe RADIO and winmo.
My Radio is 2_12_50_02_2 and wimo is ChuckyDroidROM I also should say that I think is the Radio I dont like messing with them cause some might brick ur phone that why I would like to see what radio u using before I try to use them.
Yeah... I have the same problem and I can't get over it.
I checked the temps for my phone last night, droped the battery to 40% and started charging it.
Was watching a movie with the phone charging, audio thru bluetooth, WiFi on screen on (of course ), and after almost 2 hours the temp went up to 37C, and thats tge highest I saw it.
Im using desire_hd2 Build by Cedes.
zephyrot what Radio and wimo are using?
Using Stock Deutschland ROM 3.14.407.2. With Stock Radio.
Everything working perfectly so far, been running Android for a few months, always on Stock ROMs without issues. (Unbranded Stock ROM btw).
Gonna make a stress test and post the temp results in a bit.
Did the tests.
1.5 Hrs with: Charging Phone + Music in the background + Wifi + Bluetooth + CPU @ 1.19GHz + Neocore on infinite Loop >> 38C highest temp.
Did the same test with Nenamark, and got the same results.
Ambient temp: 22 C.
Ill try another test with GPS + GMaps + Music thru bluetooth + Charging tomorrow and check the temps.
Thans zephirot I have a TmobileUSA hd2 so I dont know if i can havethat radio but it sould hlp ppl with the normal hd2... also the build i have everything works i can listen to music all day with no poblems.
The problems start when watching movies like for an hour or a bit less the phone would get a temp of like 40 C and freeze.
The latest T-Mobile ROM should have that radio (2.15.something), just be sure to check out SSPL/SPL/HSPL compatibility, since 3.03 SPL is not compatible yet with latest HSPL. Leaving ya at 64 MB usable ram
Kinda weird your high temps, you using SetCPU? Try lowering the MAX Speed to 998Mhz (1.19Ghz should run just fine), and use one of the latest Builds.
Best ones so far for me have been:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=823491
And:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857261
The second being more tricky and requiring some work to work as intented, but BY FAR the fastest Build I've used
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The latest T-Mobile ROM should have that radio (2.15.something), just be sure to check out SSPL/SPL/HSPL compatibility, since 3.03 SPL is not compatible yet with latest HSPL. Leaving ya at 64 MB usable ram
Kinda weird your high temps, you using SetCPU? Try lowering the MAX Speed to 998Mhz (1.19Ghz should run just fine), and use one of the latest Builds.
Best ones so far for me have been:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=823491
And:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857261
The second being more tricky and requiring some work to work as intented, but BY FAR the fastest Build I've used
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the HSPL is the thing I install before changing roms right?
I remember I install like 2.008
almost solved
ok ppls I've try changing the wm rom and Radio and for what ive found the phone will free either way no matter what So I think it has to be a problem with the newer builds.
My build is overclock but I had it to not go over the normal amount of speed 900 MHz and the phone would freeze after watching a movie for at least 40 min.
Now what I found that if you underclock the CPU like I did to 400-500 the phone would last much much longer even when charging. I got like 2 hours of movie and then let it cool down while charging.
also I dont know if this is important but I use Rockplayer to watch my movies and this couldnt be the reason for the freeze either cause ive been using it forever.
But I hope this help any other person who had this kind of problems.
Im having same issue but it gets hot and restart after 10-20 minutes of hard use.
Im having theory it could be microSD card getting hot becouse of phone. IM not sure.
but i tried different ROMS, radios and Androids its the same problem.
deniboy try lowring the cpu speed with set cpu to 400-500 I had it and 400 and see how it goes.
also everything else works fine on my build like Internet speed always fast no disconect and no errors this is the only thing bothering me.
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deniboy try lowring the cpu speed with set cpu to 400-500 I had it and 400 and see how it goes.
also everything else works fine on my build like Internet speed always fast no disconect and no errors this is the only thing bothering me.
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400 minimum or maximum and with what governor????
I have it on ondemand dont know if there is a difference but I do know it will run cooler and the cpu runs slower