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Longterm disadvantages to overclocking?

Has anyone noticed any long term disadvantages to overclocking the Wizard? Does the battery life permanently decrease? What speeds are you running yours at, and how long have you been doing it? Have you noticed anything at all which indicates it's not good for the hardware?
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i believe that it's safe to overclock the mda...just set it at an acceptable rate (264mhz for me) and make sure not to run the battery all the way down...if you overclock the settings too high the device will freeze and reset (this is a fail safe procedure it goes through), so there is no need to worry...also don't overclock the settings too low as the phone becomes disfunctional when too low (about less than 132mhz for me)...the screen flickers because it's not being refreshed quick enough (my guess)...hope this helps...

I would set it to 240. I have done before, i'm just wondering if it's a bad idea leaving it permanently set to that level?
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yea you should be fine at that speed, but if you want you can overclock it higher if it will let you...just make sure that the phone is stable when using it...like i said in my earlier post my device is oc at 264mhz

Cool, thanks for your replies. How long have you had yours overclocked for? Do you use Smartskey?
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My self i ownly use it when need the extra speed, only with some games and wmv video files. I think it definitely lowers battery life and i would have worries about overclocking all the time and the long term effect it has on the processor (not so important if you only keep your wizard for a year and then change with a new contract - what i do new device once a year!) I found good speed gains with the registry wizard - http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=39725
have not found overclocking produces that much extra speed.

My self i only use it when need the extra speed, only with some games and wmv video files. I think it definitely lowers battery life and i would have worries about overclocking all the time and the long term effect it has on the processor (not so important if you only keep your wizard for a year and then change with a new contract - what i do new device once a year!) I found good speed gains with the registry wizard - http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=39725
have not found overclocking produces that much extra speed.

Mine is also set at 264 24/7. Battery still lasts me all day. Been doing it since the oc program was found which I guess has been a couple of months.

Don't forget, you're wizard is only overclocked when it is active (i.e. not in standby mode). When your wizard goes into standby, it automatically goes back to the default 180mhz. Only when you bring it out of standby does it overclock again (assuming you're running it with smartskey with the option of overclocking on wakeup)

i'm using smartkey to constantly run at 264mhz...i have been doing this for a month now...like i said there is not really any problems with the batt unless you run it down totally...there was a post about this in the overclocking thread...the process is set low so that the phone will have a longer batt life...this was also stated in the overclocking thread...theoretically there is more wear if you overclock it since you are making the processor work harder, so use it at your own risk! if you want to be on the safe side then use smartkey and the overclocking prog in the same directory...then use total commander's note pad (while the ini file is highlighted) and change the value lower when you don't want it to constantly run at 264mhz or whatever speed you want to overclock or underclock at...just use it when needed, but i overclock mine constant 264mhz with great results combined with tweaks2k2, registry wizard, and of course the tmobile custom rom ...internet is a blast...just wish i could get it to run like the IE in a pc
anyways hope this helps out a bit further...

activesync
your activesync will hang allot if you overclock, I have noticed this.

DOnt know why.
For some reason i stumbled onto something, im sure its been mentioned b4 but when running Wisbar advance with a Windows vista skin done by xcillion, i am able to overclock my cingular 8125 to 288mhz at a stable rate with no problems at all, can run warcraft 2 full speed with over 50 units battling it out on screen, almost doubles browsing speed and i can run all the emulators including SNES at full speed with sound. when i dont have wisbar advance running i cant go past 240mhz clocking speed. I wonder has anyone else noticed this or gone higher than 288 without a freeze. Also, my battery life runs steady for a full day of browsing the internet talking on mobile messanger and listening to music at half volume for a full day.

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xSoNiCcRaCkErSx said:
For some reason i stumbled onto something, im sure its been mentioned b4 but when running Wisbar advance with a Windows vista skin done by xcillion, i am able to overclock my cingular 8125 to 288mhz at a stable rate with no problems at all, can run warcraft 2 full speed with over 50 units battling it out on screen, almost doubles browsing speed and i can run all the emulators including SNES at full speed with sound. when i dont have wisbar advance running i cant go past 240mhz clocking speed. I wonder has anyone else noticed this or gone higher than 288 without a freeze. Also, my battery life runs steady for a full day of browsing the internet talking on mobile messanger and listening to music at half volume for a full day.
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hey sonic, where did you get your copy of warcraft 2 for windows mobile ?
I've never heard of warcraft for Windows mobile, how does it run on a 240 MHz overclock?

I got it from the Wargus engine. i can email you the files if need be, i dont want to jeprodize this sites reputation. The game last time i checked was free though...

Actually I'm not sure if it's the overclocking issue or not but ...
For couple of weeks now my Wizard's red led is on all the time, not like it is when your battery is very low but about half of this brightness. I'm not really worried about that, it doesn't change much but it may be connected with overclocking (it was 240 for about a month).
Another thing - once I had sth like 110% speed of every tone played, either a phone call or an incoming message.
It doesn't really matter to me since it's still working fine but it may mean that overclocking isn't that safe as we might think.
TroLoo

Higest Overclocking?

i know this might b a stupid question and a question that has been asked alot... i did a search and couldnt find an answer but my question is what is the highest you overclocked your phone and it was stable? im currently running at 240 stable and im sure this will answer alot of questions for anybody who is new to overclocking thx in advanced

dont really think that that many people push it to the max
as both ram speed and sd ram interface being a much bigger bottleneck then cpu
so overclock is more likely to cost precious batt time then anything usefull

I've noticed that my MDA becomes unstable after 230 or so. I'm using an old 1.08 IPL/SPL rom if that has anything to do with it. I have Battery Status so I just use the CPU scaler and it works pretty well.

I'm running @ 232 and have been for months with no noticeable additional battery drain. Running a more-or-less stock WM5.

When i have some high quality video files or a bit more complex software that wizard can't handle at standard frequency (like quake), i run it @260MHZ without any problems. I went up to 273MHz a few times, and it worked fine with TCPMP, but i never used this setting for more than about 20 minutes. When i used different programs (not only the video player) and switched between them (read: normal pda use) i had a few system frezes @273MHz, so i don't consider it a safe setting

I use Battery Status to scale between 147 to 247 with boost set to 260. I have never once in 4 months had it lock up. I use a very stable rom though so that has to help. When using other less stable roms I was getting lock ups often.
Jeff

Problem with lag after a while

So I've recently bought a Cingular Wizard, and flashed TNT wm6 rom onto it. I installed PocketGnuBoy, and some other games, but I keep running into a problem. After I play for a while, or after my phone has been on for some time, games seem to start to 'skip'. It's really weird, and its still playable, but its extremely annoying. I would assume that someone happens after a while when you have your phone on, but I have no clue what it could be. My guess that it has something to do with activesync, but I can't seem to fix this lagging problem.
By the way, if it helps, I'm using battery status to overclock my processor to 260 mhz.

if i could first comment about your overclocking program...
XCPUScalar has a much better algorithm for overclocking. you should switch.
i tried both programs and XCPUScalar is much more stable. maybe if you tried overclocking using that you wouldn't get the lag.. maybe your processor gets all crazy from the heat of overclocking after some playtime that it can't handle the pressure... to be honest.. you should never overclock to the maximum.. it burns the MOSFETS on the processor.
other than that.. notice that some games eat RAM as they go.. check the ram demand in the beginning and check the change during gameplay..
that's something you can't really overcome.

Well if I'm playing my emulator and it starts to lag, and I exit, it seems like doing everything else or playing any other game will also get the lag. Even if I dump my memory.

ok.. so if it's a function of the time... maybe it IS about the overclocking.
try changing the program and if that doesn't work maybe you should ease up on the pressure.. after all it's a 195Mhz processor and you have a few other programs running.

I don't know. I literally have no other things running while I'm playing, and I still get this problem. The only way to fix it is to soft reset, and then it will run perfectly for 10-20 minutes. I tested it with 195 mhz default, and it still does the same thing.

hmm.. i have no idea then, im sorry

Okay so one thing I've noticed is that every time it starts lagging, the little icon where the keyboard is on your screen pops up. It's not there normally when you first start the program (pocketgnuboy) so when it starts up there is no lag. I'm absolutely sure that this has something to do with it, because of the exact timing of the lag and the appearance of the icon.

Need Help with Wing!

Hi. I just purchased a Wing for my wife and she loves it. Only complaint is that the volume is kinda low and she misses some calls because of this.
I already tried using the audiopara.csv files and adding an incallvolume to the registry but nothing.
I use a Tilt with the Kaiser Touch rom and the volume's really high. I mean like higher than normal. Is there a way to do the same tweak on a Wing?
Also, are there any recent roms for the Wing? I tried several and I'm using the numb3rs rom right now. It's stable but the memory indicator is showing first 60% then 65%....then, suddenly jumps to 69%.
Any reason for this? I mean, I do have BatteryStatus running with the processor overclocked to 247 Mhz. Does that affect the memory? I tried running cleanRAM and Pocket Mechanic but it still stays like that! The only thing that lowers it back down is a soft reset but that gets annoying after a while.
Any help will be greatly appreciated!

[Q] movie, games and heat problems

Hi I found this problem recently with all newer Builds. If I watch movies or play any game for at least 45 min I think the phone over heats and freezes.
I used to watch a bunch of movie before in older builds without this problem but at the time those build had a bunch of lil problems so that's why I don't go back to those build and the builds are perfect and this is the only problem I get.
I want to know if u dont have this problem what Radio you are using and windows mobile I dont think its a problem with the builds but a combination of maybe RADIO and winmo.
My Radio is 2_12_50_02_2 and wimo is ChuckyDroidROM I also should say that I think is the Radio I dont like messing with them cause some might brick ur phone that why I would like to see what radio u using before I try to use them.

Yeah... I have the same problem and I can't get over it.

I checked the temps for my phone last night, droped the battery to 40% and started charging it.
Was watching a movie with the phone charging, audio thru bluetooth, WiFi on screen on (of course ), and after almost 2 hours the temp went up to 37C, and thats tge highest I saw it.
Im using desire_hd2 Build by Cedes.

zephyrot what Radio and wimo are using?

Using Stock Deutschland ROM 3.14.407.2. With Stock Radio.
Everything working perfectly so far, been running Android for a few months, always on Stock ROMs without issues. (Unbranded Stock ROM btw).
Gonna make a stress test and post the temp results in a bit.

Did the tests.
1.5 Hrs with: Charging Phone + Music in the background + Wifi + Bluetooth + CPU @ 1.19GHz + Neocore on infinite Loop >> 38C highest temp.
Did the same test with Nenamark, and got the same results.
Ambient temp: 22 C.
Ill try another test with GPS + GMaps + Music thru bluetooth + Charging tomorrow and check the temps.

Thans zephirot I have a TmobileUSA hd2 so I dont know if i can havethat radio but it sould hlp ppl with the normal hd2... also the build i have everything works i can listen to music all day with no poblems.
The problems start when watching movies like for an hour or a bit less the phone would get a temp of like 40 C and freeze.

The latest T-Mobile ROM should have that radio (2.15.something), just be sure to check out SSPL/SPL/HSPL compatibility, since 3.03 SPL is not compatible yet with latest HSPL. Leaving ya at 64 MB usable ram
Kinda weird your high temps, you using SetCPU? Try lowering the MAX Speed to 998Mhz (1.19Ghz should run just fine), and use one of the latest Builds.
Best ones so far for me have been:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=823491
And:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857261
The second being more tricky and requiring some work to work as intented, but BY FAR the fastest Build I've used

Zephyrot said:
The latest T-Mobile ROM should have that radio (2.15.something), just be sure to check out SSPL/SPL/HSPL compatibility, since 3.03 SPL is not compatible yet with latest HSPL. Leaving ya at 64 MB usable ram
Kinda weird your high temps, you using SetCPU? Try lowering the MAX Speed to 998Mhz (1.19Ghz should run just fine), and use one of the latest Builds.
Best ones so far for me have been:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=823491
And:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857261
The second being more tricky and requiring some work to work as intented, but BY FAR the fastest Build I've used
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the HSPL is the thing I install before changing roms right?
I remember I install like 2.008

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ok ppls I've try changing the wm rom and Radio and for what ive found the phone will free either way no matter what So I think it has to be a problem with the newer builds.
My build is overclock but I had it to not go over the normal amount of speed 900 MHz and the phone would freeze after watching a movie for at least 40 min.
Now what I found that if you underclock the CPU like I did to 400-500 the phone would last much much longer even when charging. I got like 2 hours of movie and then let it cool down while charging.
also I dont know if this is important but I use Rockplayer to watch my movies and this couldnt be the reason for the freeze either cause ive been using it forever.
But I hope this help any other person who had this kind of problems.

Im having same issue but it gets hot and restart after 10-20 minutes of hard use.
Im having theory it could be microSD card getting hot becouse of phone. IM not sure.
but i tried different ROMS, radios and Androids its the same problem.

deniboy try lowring the cpu speed with set cpu to 400-500 I had it and 400 and see how it goes.
also everything else works fine on my build like Internet speed always fast no disconect and no errors this is the only thing bothering me.

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deniboy try lowring the cpu speed with set cpu to 400-500 I had it and 400 and see how it goes.
also everything else works fine on my build like Internet speed always fast no disconect and no errors this is the only thing bothering me.
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400 minimum or maximum and with what governor????

I have it on ondemand dont know if there is a difference but I do know it will run cooler and the cpu runs slower